OkCornel:


I am not talking of god or religion here.

Just educate us on the benefits of homosexuality...and the benefits (if any) outweighs the cost...

tintingz:
My position is about nature/Natural things. E.g Homosexuality

I said the "name" Nigeria was created, there are already communities living in that region before the colonials came, what came up with the community is natural

You register on Nairaland because you want to socialize, that's the main reason we are all here, it's natural for us.

There's no hint on Homosexuality and we're arguing about it?

Please transfer your eyes from your butt to the right place, thank you.

tintingz:
Humans are naturally cruel, greedy etc.

Even from the Bible(OT) we can see Yahweh ordering his foot zombies to be cruel to another nation.

You're looking at the positive side of what's Natural and not the negative side.

tintingz:
Homosexuality is natural because it was not invented by humans, so tell me how it's not Natural.

Ronpet777:
To prove how spineless and unreasonable they r, now that it's late and everyone is abt to go to bed, they will come and drop comments to act like Jackie Chan. Y didn't u face me and talk well? Dare to challenge me tomorrow and I will show to u that ur only hope is to question other pple's belief without even having an iota of existential significance. U r all as good as dead. No purpose, just a mistake by evolution.So Wot can a useless living creature preach? I will be a fool to ever argue with a direction less individual who is accusing a person of going d wrong way.Has he found a way for himself yet? When u find a pathway to follow, do contact me. I will be ur guest on d journey. Kids!!! Till 2moro by God's grace

vaxx:
you are just shifting the goal post. after your logic had been dealt with properly. but your over sabi will not let you see. so lets continue with
the word game... so what brought homosexuality if not human?

budaatum:

Neither am I talking about god. I don't have to educate you about what I do in the privacy of my bedroom or the benefits (if any) I derive from doing what I do there!

Hopefully you do not see my bedroom acts like I was stupid and eating broken glass. I would not do what I do if I did not benefit from it. And even if I chose to eat broken glass, it must be because I see a benefit in so doing, even if the result is my demise.

OkCornel:


Per the bolded, let's look at it this way.

Having sexual urge is natural, but going to rape a donkey because of sexual urge...is it natural? NOPE...same goes for homosexuality...

budaatum:

This is off-point, but perhaps it may help. Saudi Arabia is not a "strictly heterosexual community". The lack of opportunity for its citizens to express themselves sexually with women has caused some to express homosexually. The syndrome is like one found in prisons where the deficiency in other gender people creates an environment for same gender sexual expression.

Essentially, homosexuality, in such societies, is a social construct. It is necessitated by the lack of alternatives in the society.

budaatum:

You mean, "lets see it this way", as in according to your senses, which you are trying to make out is some sort of common sense!?

(vaxx, see that obj/sub thing again?)

Well, you may look at it like that, but that's not how it is at all!

If a man rapes another man, he is treated the same as if he raped a woman or a donkey. It is not the same as if a man comes up to another male and says, "another male, you wanna fuq?" It would only be rape if the another male says, "No, thank you", and the man forces himself on the another male!

OkCornel:


If you engage in self destructive habits or what opposes natural norms...it's your choice, but when one goes around misleading others into such errors...then that's going overboard and is totally wrong...

vaxx:
you are just shifting the goal post. after your logic had been dealt with properly. but your over sabi will not let you see. so lets continue with
the word game... so what brought homosexuality if not human?

OkCornel:


Sleeping with a man just as a man raping a woman is not right.

I do not validate rape...but even nature has it designed it such that a woman can conceive through that means...but can life be conceived through homosexuality? NOPE!

Before you get emotional on the rape issue...you can also blame nature for allowing women to conceive through that means instead of criticizing and blaming the sexual perverts and child molesters for such an terrible thing...

butterflyl1on:


Yes I am because you said there are both positive and negative sides and I choose to see the positive and you being the lamenting atheist chooses to see the negative

Like I said earlier, all we do is all about choices

budaatum:

Yes, I agree. If I worship a god that does not exist according to some, that's my problem. But if I go about telling others to worship my god that doesn't exist, I would go even further and say I am being evil!

Oh, but we are not talking religion. My bad!

If I bring a same gender adult person into my bedroom of her own free will and we took off our clothes and we fuqed, that's our problem. But if I went about selling same gender sex to minors or kidnapped people, dragged them into my bedroom and raped them, then I am being evil and should have my womb torn out when I get caught.

budaatum:

You mean, "lets see it this way", as in according to your senses, which you are trying to make out is some sort of common sense!?

(vaxx, see that obj/sub thing again?)

Well, you may look at it like that, but that's not how it is at all!

If a man rapes another man, he is treated the same as if he raped a woman or a donkey. It is not the same as if a man comes up to another male and says, "another male, you wanna fuq?" It would only be rape if the another male says, "No, thank you", and the man forces himself on the another male!

budaatum:

Yes, I agree. If I worship a god that does not exist according to some, that's my problem. But if I go about telling others to worship my god that doesn't exist, I would go even further and say I am being evil!

Oh, but we are not talking religion. My bad!

If I bring a same gender adult person into my bedroom of her own free will and we took off our clothes and we fuqed, that's our problem. But if I went about selling same gender sex to minors or kidnapped people, dragged them into my bedroom and raped them, then I am being evil and should have my womb torn out when I get caught.

tintingz:
Where did you dealt with my position?

There are Homosexuality behavior among both humans and animals.

Your question is like asking what brought heterosexual if not human?

OkCornel:


Sleeping with a man just as a man raping a woman is not right.

I do not validate rape...but even nature has it designed it such that a woman can conceive through that means...but can life be conceived through homosexuality? NOPE!

Before you get emotional on the rape issue...you can also blame nature for allowing women to conceive through that means instead of criticizing and blaming the sexual perverts and child molesters for such an terrible thing...

frank317:



U started up here like a cool guy, easy to talk with. Now u are acting all irritated and insultive.
For me, my interaction with theists in this session has shown that God can never be proven. He is just meant to be believed. U can syary up nice and simply based on ur conviction that God is real but trust me... after u have been asked just simple questions about ur belief, trust me u will have no choice but to be angry at people Who have taken it upon themselves to poke holes in ur belief u hold so dearly.
Its not really ir fault its Gods fault for not being real finally.

tintingz:
Where did you dealt with my position?

There are Homosexuality behavior among both humans and animals.

Your question is like asking what brought heterosexual if not human?

butterflyl1on:


So why are you upset with vaxx who is also referring to natural things (which you say are natural observable) like his laptop?

SMH this guy has lost it but pride and arrogance will not kill him

The whole region Known as Nigeria was it existing before AS A WHOLE? SOMEONE DECIDED / INFLUENCED this AMALGAMATION and Nigeria was born and today Nigeria is naturally observed as a whole isn't it? This is a naturally observable Nigeria from space pointing it her location.

I chose to register. I chose to socialise. I chose to recognise nairaland and be called a nairalander. It's all about choices. I can also choose not to be any of the above.

Yes science has no answers there and only guesses. So are you saying you are arguing based on hints and guesses and not certainty? Are you saying you are no longer sure homosexuality is natural since all you have is a hint?

Get an eye transplant for real this time.

budaatum:

There you go again, insulting my intelligence like you did on the garden of eden thread! You know it offends me. I am informing you only because you said it wasn't your intention. I can say you are being emotional, even way more than I am, with your "Sleeping with a man just as a man raping a woman is not right." There just is no need to say such things unless the intention is to be condescending and patronising towards you. Do mind, if you care.

I have said in one of my previouses that sex, even between heterosexuals, is not always, or mostly, done in order to reproduce. I don't know if you are of the age yet, but if you are or when you become, you will find that a lot of sex that you have will not produce, and at times you would intentionally ensure it does not produce. Do tell if you know this to be wrong.

Now, regarding sexual pervertion. Some people put the private bits of their non-same gender partners in their mouths. Some make their partner assume doggy posture and take them from the rear. Some rub their partners with whip cream, while some use condoms. Would I be wrong in claiming all I have listed above is perverse to some? Do people not do these things anyway?

Sex in some manner or form may be perverse to some, and it is within their right not to participate in such acts. But unless you intend to police my bedroom, whatever I worship in there, provided it has not been deemed illegal by the appropriate authorities, is none of anyones business!

tintingz:
Laptops are invented. Why are you like this na.

What are you saying, what am I saying?

You can as well choose to be dumb, it's natural.

Wether you choose to socialize or choose to be mannequin in your house, it's natural for you.

Whether you choose Nairaland or Facebook or Instagram, you're still socializing.

Or choice is no longer Natural?

I guess the universe is not Natural because many of what they say about it are guesses right?

Change that location of your eyes, butt-eyes.

OkCornel:


Yeah sure...but does it mean what you are doing is the natural thing to do?

You can as well get a sex doll and do the same thing...it's your choice...and it's your life. No one is stopping you...carry on

vaxx:
ok, there we go again.... Mr shifty.... will you see your flaws again... you once says it is not invented by human, instead of you to correct your fallacy there. you are answering me with question... when you are the one who make the fallacy in the first place. answer this question thrown to you first , then return yours to me... WHERE DOES HOMOSEXUALITY COME FROM? e be like say you are changing your position on the nature small small.

Ronpet777:
Frank, u need to realize that you all are not d same.

Some guys hv been here n all they did was attack, I was pushed to do same.

I hv learnt a lot from u as a person n dalaman as well, cos u take ur time to explain and analyse ur ideas but same cannot be said for others.
U r me person n I don't mean to be that insulting

butterflyl1on:

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budaatum:

Like I said, there is no common in senses. It is ones choice and ones life. Yes, it would be natural to me if I were that way inclined. It would be unnatural to me if I were that way inclined to have sex with a different to my gender person or a sex doll. And no, a sex doll is not the same thing. But if I want to do it with a sex doll, I will thank you.

And don't go telling me to "Carry on". Your permission is not required!

MuttleyLaff:
Even if anyone attacks you to tomorrow, that is no excuse for you displaying whatever it is frank317 observed of you.

Do you remember someone being advised to pray and work on himself in areas of the fruit of the spirit?
And that the flavour of the spirit, the person needs are gentleness and self-control?