So a christian can sin but he is not a sinner he is a Christian and nothing

It is because all have sinned (sinners) that Christ was manifested to destroy the nature of sin and give they that accept Him the nature of righteousness!!!

nuclearboy:

Hello Gunnaz:

We meet again and I ask the following question from YOU only because I saw in you, a lot of realism the other time. This is my question - [1a] If you, Gunnaz, kill chris oyakilome, is that a sin or not? Or if you commit a crime, [1b] say, you steal - is that a sin or not?

I get something from your posts here - you seperate between the act and the nature but QUESTION [2] what makes the nature if not the act(s)? Please answer my two questions and have a lovely evening  

So, I know that in reality, it doesn't seem logical to say one stole (even if he is born-again); and stealing is known to be a sin; and one ends up saying that person that stole is not a sinner! But that is the message;

If i have been watching my mechanic repair the engine of my car over time, and i start repairing my car engine on my own when it fails, does that make me a mechanic?

If some local women aid another woman to go through the process of childbirth, does that make them nurses/matrons?

The act of repairing a car is the nature of a mechanic and the act of supervising child birth is the nature of a nurse; and therefore any other person that does this two things cannot be called by the professional names of "mechanic" and "nurse". U get the drift?

Romeo4real:

@nuclearboy - there is nothing in his post that actually verifies his earlier statement here - "So a christian can sin but he is not a sinner he is a Christian and nothing" Im afraid poor ol' Gunnerz is confused. I mean,lets look at what he says -

nuclearboy:

Atimes I get the impression we spend more time arguing with ourselves rather than passing the Gospel's message across as is duty. I more than most am guilty of this and so I understand you, Romeo4real. But Gunnaz is of a different order than such as pastor Agbaje. His post clearly states he agrees there is an issue there so there's no point pushing against him. Now if it were[b] Agbaje[/b], you'd have heard that there is some funny explanation and all of us have not even grown teeth at all ( see mine ) and until[b] pastor chris[/b] agrees, the Bible doesn't know what it is saying. Gunnaz used words that ONLY Christians would understand and IMO, that was the only problem since not only christians read NairaLand posts.

Joagbaje:

@Nuclear BOY
Humble yourself to admit it where you are wrong. There is no issue about this. Must you vomit guile in your posts? Leave joagbaje out, leave Chris oyakhilome out. open your bible and discuss topics , not names and personalities. But if youre so interested about CEC, Its not a bad idea to take a walk to the closest branch, attend the foundation school ,and you will have sound understanding of doctrine of salvation.

Righteousness is the nature of the Christian , Sin is the nature of the unsaved. No matter how much you clothe a monkey to look like man, he is still monkey in nature. No matter how good a natural man behaves, he is still a sinner. No matter the offence of a Christian , It has not changed his nature from righteousness. He didnt earn it by works or good deed. He cant lose it by works or bad deed, A man can not be born again two times, It is babies that struggles with sin. Sin has no dominion over us.

If a baby crawls on four , or poohs on himself , he is still a human being, one day he will grow out of it.
Paul never calls a Christian sinner, even when they stole!

Ephes. 4:28
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

I am not aware Paul called a christian SINNER. Only JAMES will use such language.

grace5:

[size=15pt]HE THAT SINS BELONG TO DEVIL.

SALVATION IS OUR PASSPORT TO HEAVEN


WHILE SANCTIFICATION(HOLINESS) IS OUR TICKET TO HEAVEN.


YOU MUST CONTINUE TO CRUCIFY THE FLESH TO MAKE HEAVEN.


HOLY SPIRIT WILL HELP YOU.[/size]


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU GRACE. MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT HELP US KEEP OUR GARMENTS SPOTLESS TILL THE DAY OF HIS APPERING.

spiritsize:

WE WERE SINNERS BECAUSE WE HAD THE NATURE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MENTALITY OF SIN, NOW WE (ALL OF US) ARE RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE WE ARE THE NATURE- CHRIST, GOD, SPIRIT, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT,

nuclearboy:

Gunnaz:

Please look at what Zodiac61 wrote following my post. You will notice he used the exact word (delusion) I used and ridicules Christianity as been full of "loons". THAT IS THE EFFECT writings such as "Christians are not sinners even when they sin" has on people outside. We need to be careful what we say as its so easy to misunderstand.