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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by maxjax(m): 11:38pm On Apr 01, 2018
Chidonc:
normally there is always an insider
the struggle is just too much in this country.....damn!
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by LegendsCoded(m): 11:39pm On Apr 01, 2018
Grupo:
Tina James.

If you know, you know.


My guy u dn rush enter quickteller grin grin
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Chidonc(m): 11:41pm On Apr 01, 2018
maxjax:


the struggle is just too much in this country.....damn!
lol bro, that is why once u threaten the bank and sometimes ur network provider(cases where there is sim swap) u will see ur money back
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by syneroh(m): 11:56pm On Apr 01, 2018
nice work from the CBN , good to hear this kind of information and development , but the victim didn't later released d CBN email to lodge this kind of complains, will b good to know this kind of mails, thanks,
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by delvinmaya(m): 11:56pm On Apr 01, 2018
Abeg I don't think no one can use your BVN to carry out transactions from your bank . The only plausible explanation is an insider.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by haibe(m): 12:04am On Apr 02, 2018
xule20:

I think this is what they do, after getting ur bvn number through the normal *560...#, remember they have ur sim card right from there they'll be trying different banks code eg gtb *737# and likely complete the transaction with the last four bvn numbers.

So it still brings us back to the discussion abt the insecurity of the USSD transaction system
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by haibe(m): 12:07am On Apr 02, 2018
Chidonc:

normally there is always an insider
insider wont know your pin
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Chidonc(m): 12:14am On Apr 02, 2018
haibe:
insider wont know your pin
who knowing ur pin help, they reset, e.g if i have ur email address and d sim u registered that email with, do u think i still need to know ur password before resetting it, that is where insiders play there part
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Nobody: 12:15am On Apr 02, 2018
It happened to me too when some used my card do online shopping and 29000 was deducted from my account I went to gtb to complain it wasn't me that initiated the transfer and I was credited after 45 working days
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by slightlyMad(f): 12:15am On Apr 02, 2018
cityofindustry:
Why did he have to go through this stress, in the US, you will be credited within 24 to 48 hrs .

It's called chargeback
true.
they credit you and get to investigative work.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Coloradvantage(m): 12:16am On Apr 02, 2018
CriticMaestro:
Lemme get this straight
Is it that the person that stole your phone made that transaction and the bank helped u tracked him or was it a mistake done by the bank

Cc, Jeron1
the bank paid to avoid complications through court case and heavy payment for damages and ....
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by aieromon(m): 12:18am On Apr 02, 2018
qeemus:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/extract-bank-details-stolen-phones-withdraw-money-suspects/

Thanks for the article. The article talks about using the last 4 digits of the BVN to change a code. That will not work for the banks I currently use.

It seems the use of the BVN to carry out USSD transfers is peculiar to a particular bank, probably Access Bank from the write up.

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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Buffalowings3(m): 12:24am On Apr 02, 2018
xule20:

I think this is what they do, after getting ur bvn number through the normal *560...#, remember they have ur sim card right from there they'll be trying different banks code eg gtb *737# and likely complete the transaction with the last four bvn numbers.

Gtb needs to rectify this flaw

You can get the bvn with the sim
At the same time you can complete transaction with the last four digits of your bvn
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by jeron1(m): 12:56am On Apr 02, 2018
paroh137:

Bro please don't take this the wrong way, but your writing needs a lot of work. Narrative, grammar, structure, coherence, everything is just off.

I am an Engr, I deal with spanners and screw drivers.

Never did anything on essays bro.

We can't all be in one direction

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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by kelvinnaira: 2:10am On Apr 02, 2018
For ref.sake
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by PotatoSalad(m): 2:30am On Apr 02, 2018
My younger brother said I should never
1. Leave the house with my main ATM card. If i have to make a transaction that day, I should transfer the amount to my other ATM cards with small money in it.
2. Use a Nokia torch as my main driver and leave my second phone containing my online banking apps at home unless it's necessary I leave the house with it. It's less likely to lose a nokia torch than a Samsung Galaxy s8. Because of that, I got the new nokia 3310 which also has an mp3 player and web to eliminate the temptation of going anywhere with my big phone cos I listen to music a lot.
3. Use both sim and phone lock to lock your nokia torch.
4. Even with atm cards containing small amount of money, don't just insert your card in every pos you see because you want to do cashless transaction.
5. Delete your credit and debit alerts after reading them. There's no point leaving a credit alert of 2m because it motivates you. You'll become susceptible to fraud on any small opportunity.

And I have to add mine for innocent people out there who don't know how these things work
1. If you use mobile banking apps, never log onto your bank website from an email sent to you, whether it resembles gtb bank website or not, it's called phishing and I get such mails all the time.
2. There's no problem giving people your bvn. Your money can't be stolen with bvn alone.
3. Once a mobile banking app releases an update, don't be fast to update Immediately. Wait for a week or more. It's Nigeria, cyber crime is much.
Keep working hard my friends and be security conscious. There are wolves who will sit at home all day looking for where to reap what they did not sow.
Happy Easter

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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by LorDBolton(m): 2:34am On Apr 02, 2018
sholatech:
Impressed to know the Consumer Protection Unit of CBN works. Most banks ignore and think CBN can't bite. Thumps up OP.

No Bank thinks CBN can't bite bro... no talk wetin you no know.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by sholatech(m): 2:43am On Apr 02, 2018
LorDBolton:


No Bank thinks CBN can't bite bro... no talk wetin you no know.


My guy..dont talk wetin you don't know.

I personally faced a lot with some banks, brought copies of CBN circulars bla bla..they didn't move an inch. Petitioned CBN and they only redirected me back to the bank.

I have a friend, a bank made mistake in his transactions, lost millions of usd, queried CBN, even former Minister Ngozi Iweala gave cbn order for the bank to refund him..over six years now as we speak..

Pls don't pray to fall into their hands..I know why I'm happy the poster got justice after was damn insistent and made lots of noise.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by LorDBolton(m): 2:50am On Apr 02, 2018
sholatech:


My guy..dont talk wetin you don't know.

I personally faced a lot with some banks, brought copies of CBN circulars bla bla..they didn't move an inch. Petitioned CBN and they only redirected me back to the bank.

I have a friend, a bank made mistake in his transactions, lost millions of usd, queried CBN, even former Minister Ngozi Iweala gave cbn order for the bank to refund him..over six years now as we speak..

Pls don't pray to fall into their hands..I know why I'm happy the poster got justice after was damn insistent and made lots of noise.

Abeg No make me laugh... Abeg Abeg

This Nairaland shaaaaaa

One person go dey here dey believe your story.

First Ngozi Iweala CANNOT order CBN to do anything, obviously you don't know the CBN is independent sha, only the CBN gov can give such order.

Like I said don't say what you don't know... No be everybody wey dey here be small boy.

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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by johhnnie(m): 2:54am On Apr 02, 2018
cityofindustry:
Why did he have to go through this stress, in the US, you will be credited within 24 to 48 hrs .

It's called chargeback

Just a call would even though. They will even beg you to collect it back and if you are smart, just sue them and vote psychological stress from the loss within that time frame and y could win a million dollars more if you have a good lawyer
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by johhnnie(m): 2:58am On Apr 02, 2018
sholatech:


My guy..dont talk wetin you don't know.

I personally faced a lot with some banks, brought copies of CBN circulars bla bla..they didn't move an inch. Petitioned CBN and they only redirected me back to the bank.

I have a friend, a bank made mistake in his transactions, lost millions of usd, queried CBN, even former Minister Ngozi Iweala gave cbn order for the bank to refund him..over six years now as we speak..

Pls don't pray to fall into their hands..I know why I'm happy the poster got justice after was damn insistent and made lots of noise.

May be you did not go through the right channels at the CBN. Remember the guy said in his story that each floor had different access and even, that some of the employees In the same CBN office did not know that such a held desk was operational.

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Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by paroh137(m): 3:01am On Apr 02, 2018
jeron1:


I am an Engr, I deal with spanners and screw drivers.

Never did anything on essays bro.

We can't all be in one direction

I'm an engineer too, just graduated. That, really, is no excuse. Self-improvement should be paramount
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by johhnnie(m): 3:05am On Apr 02, 2018
EgunMogaji:


If my bank notices transactions that flags my known pattern then they will freeze my account and call me. I don't even have to do anything.

That's bank of America if I guess right. They do that to me all the time. They would send me a message to identify and confirm a recent pattern of transactions that may be a deviation from a normal pattern. I bet other banks do it though. But I can only speak of the bank that I have experienced it with!
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Nobody: 3:11am On Apr 02, 2018
johhnnie:


That's bank of America if I guess right. They do that to me all the time. They would send me a message to identify and confirm a recent pattern of transactions that may be a deviation from a normal pattern. I bet other banks do it though. But I can only speak of the bank that I have experienced it with!

Most of them do it now. I don't use major banks anymore and prefer credit unions.

Since our deposits are insured by FDIC they set rules that banks have to follow.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Nobody: 3:12am On Apr 02, 2018
Wow, so sorry for the ordeal u went through. The good thing is u got ur money back.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by 2016v2017: 3:25am On Apr 02, 2018
jeron1:
Dec 16th, 2017. A day I can NEVER forget hurriedly in my life. Got to shoprite Surulere, bought something's and made payment via POS. I didn't get SMS transaction Alert as my phone was stolen two days before.

Drove down to Lawanson (same place my phone was stolen) to make some transaction and found out that some money was missing from my account, . I immediately went beside my car, told my coworkers with me about the info, asked d amount and I calculated and gave them d figure, Three Hundred and Ninety Nine thousand, Four hundred and sixty Naira was missing (399,460).

I called my bank through the Number written on the back of the ATM card and they verified the transaction, I was a Victim of Sim card BVN fraud, first ever of Its kind in Nigeria .

Then I told them to Freeze the account with immediate effect.

I realise many people had also one time or the other gone through this kind of experience but they never got their money back as they didn't know the process to take on how to get their money back from Fraud that occurred on their account either via ATM, Online or any other platform

Here is what I did to get my money back as I it was a transaction I didn't authorised


1. I didn't keep quiet, I told a lot of people about the update. I wasn't ashame, I even posted on my timeline on Facebook. I wasn't looking for pity but to notify people about the new fraud in town and also seek for advice. I knew 90% of people won't even care as they will even laugh but that 10% of people that cared will give me solution and truly it worked.
One of the guys I told gave me the option that started the solution and that option was to write a letter to Central Bank of Nigeria, Lagos office

2. I immediately sent a mail to my bank, telling them about the debit that occurred on my account and it wasn't from me. The bank replied telling me they will investigate, I had to put a lot of pressure on them because these bank people can be very funny, they will tell you they are working on it but that's a lie

3. I wrote a petition/Complain to the "Banking Supervision Department" and "Customer Protection Department" of Central bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. The office is at the 11th floor of the building. Most of the workers don't know, some told me 8th floor, some said 5th floor. I had to walk that building up and down more than 6times that day before I could get the right office cos the access cards for the floors are different and I have to come down to take new access card for the different floor



Ps- make sure a copy with you is acknowledged, also provide your Email address and Phone number on the letter as they will reach you through the platform provided and tell you to negotiate with your bank and if no progress after 30 working days then write them again via the e-mail they used in communicating with you. I will provide screen shot of the mail they sent but I am trying as much as possible not to mention the bank. I never knew many Organisation in Nigeria work if I had not gone through it.

I was actually told at CBN that it will take time but I will surely get my money back that the CBN mandated banks to known your Customer (KYC) so since the money was transferred to Access bank then Access bank need to produce their customer

4. I wrote an official letter also to my branch bank Manager, informing him about the fraud on the account and telling him how it has really affected me. I Also made sure that a copy of the letter was acknowledged.

I knew it wasn't going to be an easy fight as the bank would want to put the blame on me but I was ready for them.

I was always sending them mail, calls via the telephones at any bank branch. I gave them heat and after 30 working days I sent a mail back to CBN telling them the bank is frustrating me and they are yet to refund my money and I didn't want to go to court because the matter was before the APEX bank. I didn't receive any reply from them

I went to a branch and also shouted and told them I want to see the branch manager which I saw her and also made my complain and she decided to also send a mail to the fraud unit.

Sorry to say, I received a call from the fraud unit after I wrote a petition to CBN and CBN queried them telling me how my money was transferred and giving me the account number and bank the money was transferred to, they also gave me the address of the person that owns the account but I refused to follow up as I told them that wasn't my work that they should do it.

Lastly, I called them from the bank and told. Them that was the last time I was going to talk to them in the issue that I will get a lawyer, told the Lady that picked the call to tell the management about my development, I actually got a lawyer but before the lawyer could write, I received my money back on Thursday hot afternoon via an alert...
Glory be to God
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by 2016v2017: 3:25am On Apr 02, 2018
jeron1:
Dec 16th, 2017. A day I can NEVER forget hurriedly in my life. Got to shoprite Surulere, bought something's and made payment via POS. I didn't get SMS transaction Alert as my phone was stolen two days before.

Drove down to Lawanson (same place my phone was stolen) to make some transaction and found out that some money was missing from my account, . I immediately went beside my car, told my coworkers with me about the info, asked d amount and I calculated and gave them d figure, Three Hundred and Ninety Nine thousand, Four hundred and sixty Naira was missing (399,460).

I called my bank through the Number written on the back of the ATM card and they verified the transaction, I was a Victim of Sim card BVN fraud, first ever of Its kind in Nigeria .

Then I told them to Freeze the account with immediate effect.

I realise many people had also one time or the other gone through this kind of experience but they never got their money back as they didn't know the process to take on how to get their money back from Fraud that occurred on their account either via ATM, Online or any other platform

Here is what I did to get my money back as I it was a transaction I didn't authorised


1. I didn't keep quiet, I told a lot of people about the update. I wasn't ashame, I even posted on my timeline on Facebook. I wasn't looking for pity but to notify people about the new fraud in town and also seek for advice. I knew 90% of people won't even care as they will even laugh but that 10% of people that cared will give me solution and truly it worked.
One of the guys I told gave me the option that started the solution and that option was to write a letter to Central Bank of Nigeria, Lagos office

2. I immediately sent a mail to my bank, telling them about the debit that occurred on my account and it wasn't from me. The bank replied telling me they will investigate, I had to put a lot of pressure on them because these bank people can be very funny, they will tell you they are working on it but that's a lie

3. I wrote a petition/Complain to the "Banking Supervision Department" and "Customer Protection Department" of Central bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. The office is at the 11th floor of the building. Most of the workers don't know, some told me 8th floor, some said 5th floor. I had to walk that building up and down more than 6times that day before I could get the right office cos the access cards for the floors are different and I have to come down to take new access card for the different floor



Ps- make sure a copy with you is acknowledged, also provide your Email address and Phone number on the letter as they will reach you through the platform provided and tell you to negotiate with your bank and if no progress after 30 working days then write them again via the e-mail they used in communicating with you. I will provide screen shot of the mail they sent but I am trying as much as possible not to mention the bank. I never knew many Organisation in Nigeria work if I had not gone through it.

I was actually told at CBN that it will take time but I will surely get my money back that the CBN mandated banks to known your Customer (KYC) so since the money was transferred to Access bank then Access bank need to produce their customer

4. I wrote an official letter also to my branch bank Manager, informing him about the fraud on the account and telling him how it has really affected me. I Also made sure that a copy of the letter was acknowledged.

I knew it wasn't going to be an easy fight as the bank would want to put the blame on me but I was ready for them.

I was always sending them mail, calls via the telephones at any bank branch. I gave them heat and after 30 working days I sent a mail back to CBN telling them the bank is frustrating me and they are yet to refund my money and I didn't want to go to court because the matter was before the APEX bank. I didn't receive any reply from them

I went to a branch and also shouted and told them I want to see the branch manager which I saw her and also made my complain and she decided to also send a mail to the fraud unit.

Sorry to say, I received a call from the fraud unit after I wrote a petition to CBN and CBN queried them telling me how my money was transferred and giving me the account number and bank the money was transferred to, they also gave me the address of the person that owns the account but I refused to follow up as I told them that wasn't my work that they should do it.

Lastly, I called them from the bank and told. Them that was the last time I was going to talk to them in the issue that I will get a lawyer, told the Lady that picked the call to tell the management about my development, I actually got a lawyer but before the lawyer could write, I received my money back on Thursday hot afternoon via an alert...
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by AndyCole16(m): 4:29am On Apr 02, 2018
amicable09:

This is not the chargeback you know. It is clearly a case of fraud and needed longer than 24 hrs to resolve. Investigations needed to be done seeing that the fraudster maintains an account with a different bank.
Hi amicable....our banker in the house. I read your experience with the one chance bus the other time. Hope you are better now? I have been looking for your moniker for like a month now but thank God I found it today. How is everything going?
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by AreaFada2: 4:33am On Apr 02, 2018
cityofindustry:
Why did he have to go through this stress, in the US, you will be credited within 24 to 48 hrs .

It's called chargeback

9ja na serious country?

You think that redneck called it sh!thole for nothing? grin cheesy
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by emmydollars4life(m): 4:48am On Apr 02, 2018
Yes I knew that customer protection department of central bank works but they are very slow.
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by Donsammi(m): 5:20am On Apr 02, 2018
jeron1:
Dec 16th, 2017. A day I can NEVER forget hurriedly in my life. Got to shoprite Surulere, bought something's and made payment via POS. I didn't get SMS transaction Alert as my phone was stolen two days before.

Drove down to Lawanson (same place my phone was stolen) to make some transaction and found out that some money was missing from my account, . I immediately went beside my car, told my coworkers with me about the info, asked d amount and I calculated and gave them d figure, Three Hundred and Ninety Nine thousand, Four hundred and sixty Naira was missing (399,460).

I called my bank through the Number written on the back of the ATM card and they verified the transaction, I was a Victim of Sim card BVN fraud, first ever of Its kind in Nigeria .

Then I told them to Freeze the account with immediate effect.

I realise many people had also one time or the other gone through this kind of experience but they never got their money back as they didn't know the process to take on how to get their money back from Fraud that occurred on their account either via ATM, Online or any other platform

Here is what I did to get my money back as I it was a transaction I didn't authorised


1. I didn't keep quiet, I told a lot of people about the update. I wasn't ashame, I even posted on my timeline on Facebook. I wasn't looking for pity but to notify people about the new fraud in town and also seek for advice. I knew 90% of people won't even care as they will even laugh but that 10% of people that cared will give me solution and truly it worked.
One of the guys I told gave me the option that started the solution and that option was to write a letter to Central Bank of Nigeria, Lagos office

2. I immediately sent a mail to my bank, telling them about the debit that occurred on my account and it wasn't from me. The bank replied telling me they will investigate, I had to put a lot of pressure on them because these bank people can be very funny, they will tell you they are working on it but that's a lie

3. I wrote a petition/Complain to the "Banking Supervision Department" and "Customer Protection Department" of Central bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. The office is at the 11th floor of the building. Most of the workers don't know, some told me 8th floor, some said 5th floor. I had to walk that building up and down more than 6times that day before I could get the right office cos the access cards for the floors are different and I have to come down to take new access card for the different floor



Ps- make sure a copy with you is acknowledged, also provide your Email address and Phone number on the letter as they will reach you through the platform provided and tell you to negotiate with your bank and if no progress after 30 working days then write them again via the e-mail they used in communicating with you. I will provide screen shot of the mail they sent but I am trying as much as possible not to mention the bank. I never knew many Organisation in Nigeria work if I had not gone through it.

I was actually told at CBN that it will take time but I will surely get my money back that the CBN mandated banks to known your Customer (KYC) so since the money was transferred to Access bank then Access bank need to produce their customer

4. I wrote an official letter also to my branch bank Manager, informing him about the fraud on the account and telling him how it has really affected me. I Also made sure that a copy of the letter was acknowledged.

I knew it wasn't going to be an easy fight as the bank would want to put the blame on me but I was ready for them.

I was always sending them mail, calls via the telephones at any bank branch. I gave them heat and after 30 working days I sent a mail back to CBN telling them the bank is frustrating me and they are yet to refund my money and I didn't want to go to court because the matter was before the APEX bank. I didn't receive any reply from them

I went to a branch and also shouted and told them I want to see the branch manager which I saw her and also made my complain and she decided to also send a mail to the fraud unit.

Sorry to say, I received a call from the fraud unit after I wrote a petition to CBN and CBN queried them telling me how my money was transferred and giving me the account number and bank the money was transferred to, they also gave me the address of the person that owns the account but I refused to follow up as I told them that wasn't my work that they should do it.

Lastly, I called them from the bank and told. Them that was the last time I was going to talk to them in the issue that I will get a lawyer, told the Lady that picked the call to tell the management about my development, I actually got a lawyer but before the lawyer could write, I received my money back on Thursday hot afternoon via an alert...


censor that CBN email address please
before wire wire boys sends remote Keylogger to that email
Re: Bank Fraud!!! What I Did And How I Got My Money Back by AndyCole16(m): 5:23am On Apr 02, 2018
paroh137:


I'm an engineer too, just graduated. That, really, is no excuse. Self-improvement should be paramount
Oga leave this guy now...Wetin be your own now
I wasn't even expecting him to respond, yet he responded like a gentleman but you still maintain your 'learn more english write up'. If you don't understand what he wrote, move on. Its not a must you comment

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