SalamRushdie:


So are the planes here now to tackle Boko Haram? I hope you know the earliest delivery dates for those plane is October 2020 and by then Buhari would be long gone ... I hope you know there are already rumours making rounds not the entire over 400 million dollars was paid to the US can you tell me why Buhari was in a hurry to illegally release funds for a plane who nearest delivery date is more than 2 years away which defeats your excuse that he did it it save lives from Boko Haram ( a Boko Haram Buhari even claims tibheva defeated )

Patrinus:
Tucano ko tuscani ni.....we can't even boast of an outdated F16

Countries are buying F32 raptors and we can't even boast of F15 or F16.... simply too bad!

SalamRushdie:


US deadline for payment shouldn't be and excuse to breach our laws , the US won't breach it's laws because another country gave it deadline so we should not

infj:

Those that have these jets are either financially buoyant or they make it by themselve

OBAGADAFFI:
And the Jets will delivered in 2020

agabusta:

SalamRushdie: :


So are the planes here now to tackle Boko Haram? grin I hope you know the earliest delivery dates for those plane is October 2020 and by then Buhari would be long gone ...I hope you know there are already rumoursbmaking rounds not the entire over 400 million dollars was paid to the US... can you tell me why Buhari was in a hurry to illegally release funds for a plane who nearest delivery date is more than 2 years away which defeats your excuse that he did it it save lives from Boko Haram ( a Boko Haram Buhari even claims tibheva defeated )

He already told you the US gave a deadline for payment. Why not make your findings to ascertain that from the US govt?

olisaemeka1:
496million dollars for 12 jets and this money was withdrawn from our excess crude accounts ....the write up here states that a jet costs about 10million dollars ....do the maths Bro ....do the maths ...

Mofe72:


Super tucano jets cost $9-$14 million.

Meaning 12 jets priced at 14 million = $168 million.

Who's the uninformed one now?

demitola:

Patrinus: :
Tucano ko tuscani ni.....we can't even boast of an outdated F16

Countries are buying F32 raptors and we can't even boast of F15 or F16.... simply too bad!

Dont come here and be straying the thought of people who dont know much about military hardwares. What do we need "F series" for? Are we at war with other developed nations of the world that we need air power supremacy? The Super Tucano is best suitable for our kinda security challenges right now. I dont have much time to use simple language to describe its super-special usefulness.

mapet:


Seems you're about to be hitting a dead-end with this guy. For starters his argument is premised on the underlined above. That should give you an inkling into some people's level of reasoning. You will also imagine that these people understand that planes are bought based on pre-existing orders and mostly not off-the-shelf. I imagine that they do not want to know or are not willing to subject themselves to finding and understanding based on facts. All they seek to do is make dumb ascertions

SalamRushdie:


So are the planes here now to tackle Boko Haram? I hope you know the earliest delivery dates for those plane is October 2020 and by then Buhari would be long gone ...I hope you know there are already rumoursbmaking rounds not the entire over 400 million dollars was paid to the US... can you tell me why Buhari was in a hurry to illegally release funds for a plane who nearest delivery date is more than 2 years away which defeats your excuse that he did it it save lives from Boko Haram ( a Boko Haram Buhari even claims tibheva defeated )

mapet:


The dilemma on NL is that while you try to argue logical, your opponent argue on every other thing but logic. Don't stress yourself, its not worth the effort.

abeggnow:
Nigeria paid in a hurry because the USA gave us a deafline for payment

Krucifax:


With all due respect my friend you are very very ill informed and you are part of the problem of Nigeria.
I just want to enlighten you with two points.
Point 1. Section 50 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria expressly forbids the authorization or withdrawal of such sums of money without the input of the National Assembly.
This means President Buhari has broken the law and breached the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Point 2. The ST fighter planes in question cost a maximum of between $9 - 14 Million dollars per unit. The FG claimes they are buying between 10 and 12 units. I am sure you have a calculator. Please tell us how $14 Million x 10 or 12 equals to $495-496 Million dollars! Even factoring in kitting, maintenance,delivery and logistics the figures come no where close to what Mr President withdrew.
This is abuse of power and position. It is also corruption of the highest order and that is why Mr President and his cronies illegally bypassed the National Assembly to get the money.
Nigeria is a disgrace and people like you without facts should not be making comments as you are part of the problem confusing others that don't know the truth!

....The sale of the 12 aircraft, with weapons and services, is worth $593 million, and includes thousands of bombs and rockets.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-usa/nigeria-says-u-s-agrees-delayed-593-million-fighter-plane-sale-idUSKBN1EL1EN

Patrinus:


Peeps be yarning dust and terming it logic. Ask your pal that has military knowledge what a highly advanced SAM is capable of doing to that ur surveillance aircraft.

I'll bet a lot that, that aircraft missile defense system is already obsolete(if it has any), little wonder Boko Haram would probably be shooting them down like pigeons.

FYI, F15 can be used for both surveillance and attack. Do your research.

SalamRushdie:


Is taking money of that magnitude from govt account without parlaimentary approval as postioned by Nigerian laws not outright theft? Yes or No?


Do you know there is a very sound reason why such a law is in place?

Are you saying Buhari can keep dipping his leprous blood stained satanic fingers into the National till as he pleases without recourse to our laws?

what is even the point of your argument sef? Buhari committed a crime against our laws no matter how nice you try to paint it.

mapet:


One thing I take from all your countributions tho........."A comic relief"

abeggnow:

SalamRushdie: :


So are the planes here now to tackle Boko Haram? grin I hope you know the earliest delivery dates for those plane is October 2020 and by then Buhari would be long gone ...I hope you know there are already rumoursbmaking rounds not the entire over 400 million dollars was paid to the US... can you tell me why Buhari was in a hurry to illegally release funds for a plane who nearest delivery date is more than 2 years away which defeats your excuse that he did it it save lives from Boko Haram ( a Boko Haram Buhari even claims tibheva defeated )

Nigeria paid in a hurry because the USA gave us a deafline for payment

Patrinus:


Please laugh away your sorrows since there's nothing forthcoming from you evidence wise that counter my comic relief. Also remember to laugh when next you're called lazy by government exploiting you.

rusher14:


The Pentagon has ordered six additional Embraer/Sierra Nevada Corporation A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft for the Afghan Air Force (AAF), Brazilian aircraft maker Embraer Defense & Security announced in an October 25 press release.

“Production of these six new aircraft is to start immediately in Jacksonville, Florida and brings to 26 the total number of aircraft provided to the Program,” the statement reads. The U.S. Air Force has spent a total of $427 million under its so-called Light Air Support/A-29 Afghanistan Program to supply the AAF with 20 A-29 aircraft by the end of 2018. Each Super Tucano cost around $18 million.

The press release did not state a delivery date for the new A-29 Super Tucano aircraft.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/us-buys-6-more-light-attack-aircraft-for-afghan-air-force/

mapet:


I hear you.... ok, run along and play with your "ilks"

mapet:


From my assessment of your antecedents, I cannot even take you serious of being capable of sound logical argument. All I see you do here is lace your post with expletives and not any attempt to reason, so why waste my time with you?

mapet:


You mean the FG would have been invoiced from "google-search"?

Don't you want to cry for Nigeria sometimes?


Thank god these illiterate youths are the future of biafra and not Nigeria.

mapet:


From my assessment of your antecedents, I cannot even take you serious of being capable of sound logical argument. All I see you do here is lace your post with expletives and not any attempt to reason, so why waste my time with you?

deomelllo:

rusher14: :


The Pentagon has ordered six additional Embraer/Sierra Nevada Corporation A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft for the Afghan Air Force (AAF), Brazilian aircraft maker Embraer Defense & Security announced in an October 25 press release.

“Production of these six new aircraft is to start immediately in Jacksonville, Florida and brings to 26 the total number of aircraft provided to the Program,” the statement reads. The U.S. Air Force has spent a total of $427 million under its so-called Light Air Support/A-29 Afghanistan Program to supply the AAF with 20 A-29 aircraft by the end of 2018. Each Super Tucano cost around $18 million.

The press release did not state a delivery date for the new A-29 Super Tucano aircraft.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/us-buys-6-more-light-attack-aircraft-for-afghan-air-force/

The ignorant Igbos get their upside down and outdated info from wiki.

The $18 million sef is before adding needed options like weapons from bombs to missiles, radar and avionics, training, parts and supplies and so on.

The $18 million plane could end up costing $50 million or more each by the time they add all the needed options and upgrades.


It's really a fact that we not only have lazy Nigeria youths, but we also have ignorant and illiterate Nigeria youths.

progress69:
The useless house of assembly that refused to pass the budget summited since 2017 wants to government to wait till they approve money for this super aircrafts for the decimination of terrorists even though there is was a dead line set by US government. They will rather shout BH are killing our people forgetting they are playing politics with the budget and will never tell us how much they really gulp in a month as legislatures.
I commend the Buhari government for taking the bull by the horn.
B
Argue with your phone!

agabusta:


Defence decisions are taken strategically not by emotions gotten from movies.

Based on cost and other factors, the Tucanos are strategically more important to Nigeria at this time.

The plane is especially good for training and security, surveillance, reconnaissance and counter-insurgency missions.

The armaments the plane carries are quite impressive.

The plane will be a good economic/strategic choice to patrol the vast areas of land in the NE with very modern offensive weapons.

What do you think is the cost of blazing an F15 or F16 to fight an imaginary enemy? Are they not primarily for aerial combat? Are we planning to combat boko haram in the air or from the air? you lots will just be throwing words carelessly up and down.

Patrinus:


So Nigeria is not financially buoyant enough?

If we had better leaders, we'd be making better jets!

agabusta:


Who is holding you back from writing your own?