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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by erico2k2(m): 8:23pm On May 17, 2018
Odingo1:
Nigeria is a segregated country that doesn't want all its part to develop, they prefer backwardness and their tribes prefer seeing others suffering and on sunday and friday they will enter churches and mosque to go and deceive their-selves.

South Africa have six standard seaport that covers the whole country, you cant live in Capetown and be going all the way to Durban to clear your goods.
So does the Sea port in cape town deal in all cargoes?,Does it deal with Roro and container goods veseels? as well as Crude Oil vesels?
The reason Im saying this is simple, ports are built for specific ocean going vessels.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by potent5(m): 8:30pm On May 17, 2018
Deadlytruth:


But can we in all honesty say that the Southerners who governed for part of those years did not ruin the country as well?
Don't you worry. I heard someone is coming out with a book entitled "How the North underdeveloped Nigeria". Make sure you grab your copy when the book does come out.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by peacengine(m): 8:36pm On May 17, 2018
wink2015:
Ex-President Goodluck Jonathan wasted 6 years of his administration feeding thieves in his government.

He never thought it necessary to revamp the Warri seaport, Port Harcourt seaport.

Even his native Bayelsa deserve an international seaport. But Jonathan forgot himself.

He was Nigerian president, not president of Bayelsa state or south south. As a head of state, he should not be partial or sentimental in handling our affairs
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by davidif: 8:52pm On May 17, 2018
laudate:


So, if Onne port is privately run by Intels (the concession has been suspended by the NPA, by the way) does it mean that importers cannot use the port to bring their goods into the country?

What in goodness name is Intels? I do not know what that is.

Also, to answer your question, maybe the ports are too shallow to allow bigger ships to dock, after all who wants to crash their ship into a shallow water port? Besides, what if those ports don't have adequate equipment for massive unloading operations. Unloading a ship could be a very massive undertaking if you don't know. Then after the unloading, you need the to be able to transport those goods to their final destination either via rail network or massive trailers which those other ports don't have.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by islandmoon: 8:56pm On May 17, 2018
the first time we sailed our ship to Port Harcourt seaport, some boys said we must settle youth and settle the communities before offloading our stuffs, and even when we settled them and move those goods to ware house, another set of youth and another community showed up again, we were frustrated, and as we were thinking of what to do, the men heading back to china on the ship called us, said militant is trying to kidnap them, so ever since then, till I left that job, we prefer to berth in Lagos rather than Port Harcourt, its safer. the we reason prefer Lagos port.

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by aribisala0(m): 8:57pm On May 17, 2018
peacengine:


He was Nigerian president, not president of Bayelsa state or south south. As a head of state, he should not be partial or sentimental in handling our affairs
So revamping Warri port is being sentimental?

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by laudate: 8:59pm On May 17, 2018
davidif:
What in goodness name is Intels? I do not know what that is.

Also, to answer your question, maybe the ports are too shallow to allow bigger ships to dock, after all who wants to crash their ship into a shallow water port? Besides, what if those ports don't have adequate equipment for massive unloading operations. Unloading a ship could be a very massive undertaking if you don't know. Then after the unloading, you need the to be able to transport those goods to their final destination either via rail network or massive trailers which those other ports don't have.

You have digressed totally from the questions, I had asked you earlier. You really need to do a lot of research before coming back to respond online. Intels has the concession for Onne sea port. For your information Onne sea port in the SS axis, has modern, efficient loading and offloading facilities.

INTELS Nigeria Limited has acquired one of the largest port handling cranes in the world – a 600 tonnes Liebherr crane worth USD6 million (N1.83 billion). The crane, which is sitting on 104 tyres, is capable of lifting cargoes as heavy as 208 tonnes with a 17-metre boom outreach. “The crane is characterized by rapid and efficient handling of loads up to 208 tonnes. With its extensive boom outreach, the LHM 600 is the ideal cargo handling solution for the type of very large and ultra large ships operating across the world today,” he said. He said the huge crane, fondly called ‘Big Mama’ at the port, was acquired in addition to several other existing cargo handling equipment at the Onne Federal Lighter Terminal and Federal Ocean Terminal. He said the crane is being operated fully by Nigerians who have been trained abroad on its handling and maintenance.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/intels-acquires-n1-8bn-crane-largest-africa/

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by peacengine(m): 9:00pm On May 17, 2018
aribisala0:
So revamping Warri port is being sentimental?

Why don't you blame Obasanjo who was there for 8yrs?
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by FX2BROWN: 9:32pm On May 17, 2018
The seaport issue is linked with wrong policies from FG of Nigeria.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by bameyi(m): 9:36pm On May 17, 2018
Security and safety issue
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Kingspin(m): 9:38pm On May 17, 2018
Fuckyoumod:
Ask Goodluck Jonathan who had all the time in the world to bring life to all the seaports, but abandoned it, while drinking kai-kai and looting in Aso Rock.

If Gej couldn't standardize Port Harcourt or Warri seaports and left them abandoned.

Is it Buhari the Bigot that would make them viable?

Guy, go to bayelsa, Otuoeke to be precise and ask gej.

It took buhari less than 3 years to build a dry port.

You gave an average Nigerian ans without stating why other port are not functioning. But people know that the reason the rest of our ports are not working is the same reason Nigeria is not developing and lack peace.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by aribisala0(m): 9:40pm On May 17, 2018
peacengine:


Why don't you blame Obasanjo who was there for 8yrs?
oil prices under OBJ were low and never as high as today 17. May 2018


He paid off a major debt and gave th country a good platform when he left with plenty os savings despite low oil prices compared to under GEJ or even today

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by enomakos(m): 10:02pm On May 17, 2018
erico2k2:

YES REALY, I have shipped goods to both Onitsha and Onne ports, try and visit these ports so you can make an informed argument instead of following the tides of these lazy Nigerian youths
ok thanks bro
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Nobody: 10:17pm On May 17, 2018
That's the Shiithole Zoo for u. grin.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Nobody: 10:18pm On May 17, 2018
Fuckyoumod:
Ask Goodluck Jonathan who had all the time in the world to bring life to all the seaports, but abandoned it, while drinking kai-kai and looting in Aso Rock.

If Gej couldn't standardize Port Harcourt or Warri seaports and left them abandoned.

Is it Buhari the Bigot that would make them viable?

Guy, go to bayelsa, Otuoeke to be precise and ask gej.

It took buhari less than 3 years to build a dry port.




Pls stop derailing the topic.


Focus on the issue raised.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Raypawer(m): 10:20pm On May 17, 2018
That why Akwa Ibom state with its highest allocation is trying to replicate what is in Lagos, building a standard seaport, they have gone more than 75% on this and i think it will relief Lagos a lot

theenchanter:
It always beat my imagination how Nigeria end up inflicting hardship on itself just because of "marginalization". Take it or leave it, some parts of Nigeria is being marginalized, the nation can't move forward with this set-up.

Don't tell me states govt can build their seaports when their federal allocation can only pay salaries and minor road projects.

Don't tell me they can generate revenue on their own when there's not much economic presence in the regions.

Don't tell me their citizens can pay tax to generate revenue when their people are jobless, hungry and angry.

A sensible central govt will tryna ease Lagos seaport by allowing cargoes that are eastern bound use any of the remaining ports, afterall; not all consignment are for Lagos alone, what's d point in wasting about 30days to clear goods in Lagos when the remaining ports are useless?

Nigeria is fvcked up, big time!... even Benin republic is feeding on Nigeria's carcass.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:27pm On May 17, 2018
It's an issue of incompetence and corruption really. That you have long stretches of coast all along the South-South, and yet, the overwhelming majority of imports come through Apapa and Tin Can while South South ports only exist to export crude. Not even refined crude products importation is spared and you have Lagos clogged up with unsightly tankers everywhere. The FG for decades resolutely refused to dredge the coasts of the SS or take the planned port projects in Akwa Ibom and Cross River seriously, so what's left is either inaccessible due to shallow docks, unsuited to certain kinds of vessels, or unattractive to shippers. Militancy, particularly along the Warri to Port Harcourt stretch also poses a piracy risk.

The SS states with all their "oyel" money do not have the vision either to band together to execute the project. Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Delta and Bayelsa could fund this easily without waiting for the FG, but you have a clown like Amaechi wasting $400m on a bleeping monorail that isn't operational.

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Raypawer(m): 10:27pm On May 17, 2018
So dry! how come all the oil companies have their facilities at Port Harcourt and Akwa Ibom? why hasn't it bee destroyed by militants since?

for seaport you only have to ship your container to the port, its checked by customs and you get your consignment,

it's Obasanjo that started that marginalization all in a single lie, saying fed govt want to checkmate importation into the country.

computer0810:
bcoz militant will take advantage of it and we all know lagos is home for all.....yoruba's are very accommodating
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by bibe(m): 10:38pm On May 17, 2018
laudate:


Oga, did you read my post with an open mind, before jumping on your keyboard to type this epistle? Is Onne sea port not closer to the Southeast region, than Lagos? Is Onne port NOT operational? Are goods and raw materials not being consigned to onne port, and cleared by importers from there on a daily basis?

So why are your importers obsessed with using Lagos ports? Produce or cite one policy that federal govt has used to strangulate operations in eastern ports. Please paste the source right here in black & white, so we can all read and verify. How come that same policy has not strangulated Onne port? shocked If freight charges are disproportional between Lagos port and Onne ports, what are your members in the Senate and house of reps doing, to review this issue?

Following the civil war, in order to check against arms infiltration (the government still feared the Eastern region may re-arm #paranoia) all imports of goods to the Eastern ports was stopped. Then government then had to improve capacity of Lagos apapa Port to handle the increased traffic and that's the Genesis of the whole current problem. This also made it easier for them to monitor what was coming in and going out (Lagos was still the seat of power then thus it was much easier)

Onne was then repurposed to serve mostly oil and gas export/import (oil boom). And this policy remained so until about few years ago.

Naturally, Lagos has a deep bathymetry compared to Eastern ports (which has shallow bathymetry and a problem for big ships). This wouldn't have been much of an issue if not for the policy adopted following the war as the Eastern government could've easily carried out dredging projects to solve such issues as well as also increasing capacity to handle big ships (ships keep getting bigger and bigger and you need to develop Port capacity to handle them).

These long years of neglect/policy is what brought about the situation we have today in the Eastern ports. Plus a lot of service companies have created service chains on the back of Apapa dominance which makes Lagos port much more functional and attractive to shipping companies.

It's going to take years and deliberate efforts on the part of the federal government to turn the tide.

#my humble take on the Eastern port issues following researches I made a long time ago.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by laudate: 11:02pm On May 17, 2018
bibe:
Following the civil war, in order to check against arms infiltration (the government still feared the Eastern region may re-arm #paranoia) all imports of goods to the Eastern ports was stopped. Then government then had to improve capacity of Lagos apapa Port to handle the increased traffic and that's the Genesis of the whole current problem. This also made it easier for them to monitor what was coming in and going out (Lagos was still the seat of power then thus it was much easier)

Onne was then repurposed to serve mostly oil and gas export/import (oil boom). And this policy remained so until about few years ago.

Naturally, Lagos has a deep bathymetry compared to Eastern ports (which has shallow bathymetry and a problem for big ships). This wouldn't have been much of an issue if not for the policy adopted following the war as the Eastern government could've easily carried out dredging projects to solve such issues as well as also increasing capacity to handle big ships (ships keep getting bigger and bigger and you need to develop Port capacity to handle them).

These long years of neglect/policy is what brought about the situation we have today in the Eastern ports. Plus a lot of service companies have created service chains on the back of Apapa dominance which makes Lagos port much more functional and attractive to shipping companies.

It's going to take years and deliberate efforts on the part of the federal government to turn the tide.

#my humble take on the Eastern port issues following researches I made a long time ago.

Oga, post the url or the source of the so-called policy which you stated here, where you claimed that "This wouldn't have been much of an issue if not for the policy adopted following the war as the Eastern government could've easily carried out dredging..."

Who made this policy, and where is it documented? sad We need to check your sources and verify. Enough of the propaganda. sad The fact that Onne sea port was developed and is currently quite functional, rubbishes your claim about this so-called policy.

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by laudate: 11:41pm On May 17, 2018
mybestlove:
I believe the seaports business in Nigeria has been politicised. Lagos won't be happy to see other seaports functional, Obasanjo, Tinubu, atiku and all politicians owning terminals at tincan and environs won't permit the resuscitation of the other seaports.

The more reason why Lagos is posting billions in IGR
NickD:
Bro it is deliberate.. powers that be just want only the Lagos port to function because of the huge revenue they generate. It's saddening but it's simply the basic truth.
Don't be silly. Revenue from the ports goes direct to federal govt, and NOT Lagos state. undecided Onne port in the SS, is highly functional as we speak, and generates more revenue for federal govt than Lagos ports.

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Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by piagetskinner(m): 11:55pm On May 17, 2018
it is only in Nigeria abnormal things are taken to be normal
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by vioment: 11:57pm On May 17, 2018
tribalism
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by Killurself: 12:43am On May 18, 2018
Onne seaport is OK but koko how many ship or load that koko seaport can contained? if you never visit koko pls don't even comment on this issue. Warri seaport mostly used by Julius Berger but for koko seaport is not up to standard at all, not even have enough space, it only used to offload total engine oil thru ship to the total company inside koko, And as small as koko they can frustrate investor, during my staying in koko 2003/2004 mtn and glo want erect their mass for communication the money community was asking the company they can't pay it, after 5 to 6 years after a lot of communication suffer before they accepted to erect mass, and also youth problem in Warri but the Warri as been enjoy peace now than before.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by davidif: 2:56am On May 18, 2018
laudate:


You have digressed totally from the questions, I had asked you earlier. You really need to do a lot of research before coming back to respond online. Intels has the concession for Onne sea port. For your information Onne sea port in the SS axis, has modern, efficient loading and offloading facilities.

Like i said earlier, maybe the ports are too shallow or maybe they don't have an adequate transportation system to move the cargo from the dock to the final destination.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:59am On May 18, 2018
theenchanter:
It always beat my imagination how Nigeria end up inflicting hardship on itself just because of "marginalization". Take it or leave it, some parts of Nigeria is being marginalized, the nation can't move forward with this set-up.

Don't tell me states govt can build their seaports when their federal allocation can only pay salaries and minor road projects.
but they have enough to loot to and do owambe wedding for their chudrens in Dubai

Don't tell me they can generate revenue on their own when there's not much economic presence in the regions.
they don't have to cater for 20 million so they can raise commensurate revenue

Don't tell me their citizens can pay tax to generate revenue when their people are jobless, hungry and angry.
only 20% are jobless
the others can pay
Abi is it federal that is suffering now

A sensible central govt will tryna ease Lagos seaport by allowing cargoes that are eastern bound use any of the remaining ports, afterall;
do our politicians look 'sensible '
they actually are cos they're making mad bank and we are here lamenting

not all consignment are for Lagos alone, what's d point in wasting about 30days to clear goods in Lagos when the remaining ports are useless?
those that need faster consignment better fix the ports

Nigeria is fvcked up, big time!... even Benin republic is feeding on Nigeria's carcass.
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by MIKOLOWISKA: 3:44am On May 18, 2018
Odingo1:
Nigeria is a segregated country that doesn't want all its part to develop,
only segregation is rich and poor


they prefer backwardness and their tribes prefer seeing others suffering and on sunday and friday they will enter churches and mosque to go and deceive their-selves.
all poor tribes are suffering
and they deserve to


South Africa have six standard seaport that covers the whole country, you cant live in Capetown and be going all the way to Durban to clear your goods.
sure you can. that's why we have trucks or how do you think Botswana gets their stuff
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by MIKOLOWISKA: 3:48am On May 18, 2018
Hennepin:
All present and past Leaders of this country have failed us. Both major political parties have failed us and will continue. Vote with sense in 2019, in fact I will advice the youth to abandon this sinking ship while you can.
and go where. even Ghana doesn't want us. we fight or we die
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by MIKOLOWISKA: 3:51am On May 18, 2018
Jeezuzpick:
Hmmmmmm.......

All these ports you called, how safe are they?

If those boys hijack ships coming in to Port.......
what stops them from hijacking bfor Lagos
Re: Why Are The Four Other Seaports In Nigeria Abandoned? by MIKOLOWISKA: 3:59am On May 18, 2018
potent5:

Don't you worry. I heard someone is coming out with a book entitled "How the North underdeveloped Nigeria". Make sure you grab your copy when the book does come out.
don't mind all these lazy authors.
or m was they're hardworking at psych warfare

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