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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by mfm04622: 5:18am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Colourich: Myopic! How many doctors do all Nigerian universities train in a year? How many are leaving every year? We are approaching the point where only those who can't pass their certification exams to practice abroad will be left to take care of us in the country. 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by texazzpete(m): 5:20am On Jun 21, 2018 |
merits: You traveled abroad on a visitor Visa and you're comparing yourself with professionals emigrating to work as medical doctors? 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by texazzpete(m): 5:28am On Jun 21, 2018 |
I find this thread very funny. It is the vulnerable ones, the ones that cannot afford private medical care and rely on overcrowded, over-stretched public hospitals that are the ones crowing about doctors leaving. People who have sense know enough to worry about the brain drain. When your best, brightest and most experienced doctors leave, and you think the solution is to rotate in a conveyor belt of fresh graduates to replace them...is that not the height of foolishness? I think this stupidity is a Nigerian thing. The "let them go, we have others to replace them" mentality was what we saw happen in our universities where we killed the value proposition of lecturing, ensuring that the best graduates flee from staying back to lecture. In fact, I'm actually joining some of you in says jf "let them go". Because they deserve a better life overseas where they are well paid. And because it is only intense suffering that can make you lot change. So when we have the inevitable crisis in our public health system, those of us that can afford private care will sit on the sidelines and laugh at you. Nonsense. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by NaMe4: 5:36am On Jun 21, 2018 |
MrAnele: I don't think there's anything such as a 'bad doctor'. Except, maybe an unmotivated doctor. Many doctors may be engaged in other endeavours or businesses apart from medicine, so may not consider travelling out to practice in other Countries. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Carter4luv(m): 5:39am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Our leaders thought they av money to travel abroad for treatment. Soon the God we pray for will surely arrest dem on air. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by israelmao(m): 5:39am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Nigeria is in dire need of passionate and selfless leaders and the solution lies in our hands if only we will set aside tribalism,religious sentiments and personal interest and pave way for national interest Nigeria can be great .Nigeria will be great if Yoruba can look into the eyes of his fellow clan and say this is not right,it will be great if Igbo can look into look into eyes his fellow clan and say this is not right and if Hausa can look straight into his brother's eyes say the same thing.Nigerian political elites seek for medical care abroad with our commonwealth while our nation's health system is left in the state of disrepair.We must rise up in unity and harmony to ask for what is our right or else we will keep making motion without movement. 1 Like |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by breakeven: 5:48am On Jun 21, 2018 |
The terrorist we have as leader does not give a Bleep about that.The doctors can all leave for all he cares. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by salford1: 5:51am On Jun 21, 2018 |
NaMe4:You are right about the possibility of engaging in other activities. I can speak for Canada. Alot of Foreign trained doctors just abandon the practice completely and retrain in some other profession or chase some other endeavors due to the near impossibility of practicing in Canada. Somehow they prefer that to staying back in Nigeria. At the end of the day, everyone is looking for better quality of life and not necessarily the money they can make by practicing their profession overseas or in Nigeria. https://www.thestar.com/amp/vancouver/2018/04/12/doctors-without-jobs.html By ALEX MCKEEN STARMETRO VANCOUVER. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.macleans.ca/news/canada/doctors-in-training-are-growing-extremely-nervous-about-the-lack-of-opportunities/amp/ By Tola Afolabi. Nigerian docs seeking to practice abroad should just move to the UK. They have the floodgates open. 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by abbeyty(m): 6:02am On Jun 21, 2018 |
so, the doctor can sit back in England working in an organized society but he doesn't want others to join..if he so much loved Nigeria why didn't he come back home? talking of hypocrite. I beg if you are a doctor and den give you visa don't listen to this man oh. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by planetbluz: 6:04am On Jun 21, 2018 |
We would be managing native doctors, or are they equally planning a mass exit from nigeria? |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Lalas247(f): 6:04am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Colourich:reality is we don't have enough qualified docs swear we just had a strike too few weeks backs... the issue is in years to come it will get worse no point sugar coating the obvious even government flies out of country for medical help ... that speaks volumes 1 Like |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by divinelove(m): 6:05am On Jun 21, 2018 |
There are thousands of unemployed doctors out there so they can leave it will make no difference. Besides if not for surgery doctors are not needed by many abi no be typhoid n malaria treatment 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 6:10am On Jun 21, 2018 |
rentAcock:I couldn't wait to read through your entire write up. A NIGERIAN MEDICAL DOCTOR working as a NURSE assistant is even better paid, more secured and also has a better future for his kids than your LOCAL GOVERNMENT CHAIRMAN and the CMDs of Federal teaching Hospitals, provided the CMD doesn't loot public funds. Imagine when such now works as a medical doctor, he is. Have you ever asked someone what the MINIMUM WAGE of the USA is like..?? Don't always rush to type, verify things OK. U sound like a GRADUATE as well as a sound one....try and verify why people seek to be in the US. Even BANK MANAGERS resgin, to relocate to the US. I guess u don't know much about the US. Have u ever wondered why people TESTIFY in churches when granted the US visa or better still GREEN CARD..?? Do u think that Medical Doctor has not achieved much...?? Just ask him to relocate to Nigeria and watch him heap curses on you. Someone doing a menial JOB over there takes home with roughly 850k/month. Mind u, Nurse assistant is not a menial Job. U need genuine papers to acquire such. Government Schools are entirely Free with the best of teachers globally. Best Brains are always with u and ur kids. THANK U 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by divinelove(m): 6:16am On Jun 21, 2018 |
texazzpete: Any doctor that wants to go can go Biko they won't be missed. There are tens of thousands of young brilliant doctors that are waiting to take their positions. Majority of Nigerians nearly 85% only suffer typhoid n malaria in d last 10yrs n kws d drug to take n don't need a doctor. Besides d church is available for divine healing. Let them go to hell, they won't be missed. We won't notice their absence. 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by rabzy: 6:17am On Jun 21, 2018 |
missyadorable:Good luck o lawyer, doctors dey Comot you see want Comot, to go do Wetin? You want employ you for countries wey awyer full, with your accent den go just dey convict your few clients, both judge and jury go just dey look you like say nah Greek you dey speak. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 6:22am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Ekitiparapo:oh plz don't start another johesu fight Biko. Leave them let them go. Yes Nursing is a sought after profession abroad but this is an mbbs thread . Let them be 1 Like |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by divinelove(m): 6:23am On Jun 21, 2018 |
mfm04622: Dont worry let them go Native doctor dey Pastors dey for divine healing Herbal medicine dey |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Mekanus(m): 6:23am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Britishcoins:Nigeria is in big trouble. Just look at how a grown up person is still reasoning in this 21st century. Chai!!!. 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by LastSurvivor11: 6:25am On Jun 21, 2018 |
rentAcock: Your type will never take up an uncertain challenges due to fear of failure.. U said u know about ur church member that failed to realise his dream, lemme tell you my two blood sisters are now nurses abroad, one in Germany, if you know what it takes to obtain a German language certificate talk more of practicing but she made it as the only African nurse in her district, second one is still completing her studies in USA, then I know two Doctors in USA lavishly living their dreams.. Ur church member might not actually actualize his dream but believe me atleast his giving his children the live and the level playing ground in the world stage while u sit here n consider him failure.. 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 6:26am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Everytime we want to leave, Leave they no leave. As if they are the only profession being sought after abroad.. Mtcheeew. 1 Like |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 6:32am On Jun 21, 2018 |
missyadorable:Aunty lawyer, how many countries abroad have we heard that are looking for lawyers to immigrate? In your mind, we proud johesu professionals are fighting doctors? When we go on strike, is it against doctors or against government? Get your facts right. BTW Nurses are far more sought after abroad than lawyers because I have not heard about Nigerian lawyers being wooed by foreign countries. Don't overrate yourselves. Thanks. . ORIAKU AMARA proud daughter of Florence Nightingale 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by ShenTeh(m): 6:37am On Jun 21, 2018 |
missyadorable: These are the kinds of lawyers probably handling Kizz Daniel's brief. (All due respect to the hardworking cool dude). People like these most often are less endowed in the oblongata region and have for shoulder pads what should be for mental strength and moral balance. 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Vmaqween(f): 6:38am On Jun 21, 2018 |
if only the health sector is working well, they won't all want to run out, imagine a situation where your own life is at risk just because you want to save others... imagine a situation where the same doctor will be on call from morning till night...ah ah it's a pity we are like this and government officials don't care |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by lastempero: 6:38am On Jun 21, 2018 |
rentAcock: Who is going to impact knowledge on the upcoming ones, it's not a practice make perfect venture or trial n error venture,someone has to put u through that's d big issue.oyibo call it brain drain. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by MrBigiman: 6:38am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Jayloy: Very true. Most don't loud it at all. Up to 6 residents left a facility I worked for. And they weren't even acting as if they were planning on anything. Doctors don't threaten to leave but leave. Work 2yrs in UK and u can Migrate to Australia or Canada and experience the new world. U can imagine the impact the hospital felt losing 6 experienced residents and shopping for 6 more. First the Doctor patient relationship is affected, then also some of the best brains are lost. 1 Like |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by rentAcock(m): 6:39am On Jun 21, 2018 |
EVILFOREST: There's nothing to verify with anyone, I know what i'm talking about. The highest paid nursing assistants or nursing attendants are in the north eastern states of new york and new jersey, average starting pay is between $11 - $17. Federal minimum wage is $7.25, varies by state. Let's assume a nursing assistant earns $400 every week, after federal tax, state tax, city tax, medicare tax, medicaid tax and disability tax have been deducted, they could be left with $290 or around N100,000 a week or N400,000 a month. Wow! big money! how many bankers take home 400k a month, but here's where it gets tricky. Average monthly rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in the ghetto parts of new york for example where my church member lives is $1100 or N400,000. Whoa, 400k already gone and we haven't even talked about monthly electricity bills that averages $250 or N90,000. We haven't accounted for telephone bill of maybe $50 or N18,000 a month. How about transportation cost? woe betide you if you own a car, your monthly insurance can range from $150 - $600 or N54,000 - N216,000. Of course most people can't afford the high insurance so they use metrocards, which costs about $120 or N43,000 a month. We haven't even talked about food, clothing, health insurance if your employer doesn't provide you one. Remember they also pay tax for everything, so after the government has deducted income tax and all sort of taxes, when you buy biscuit, you still pay sales tax of 9%. When you factor in all the expense, you will now understand why i said my church member who was a doctor in Nigeria was probably better off in Nigeria than settling for nursing assistant job in America. You go from a job of high prestige to one where you are cleaning old folks butt, bathing them and dealing with all manners of insult all because you want to live in America? Don't just look at minimum wage, you cannot raise a family in America solely on minimum wage, most of these guys have several jobs. Its like they just pay rent for the sake of having an address, many of them hop from one job to another allowing only a few hours for sleep in between. 4 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by divinelove(m): 6:41am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Grupo: Spot on To think an idiotic naija doctor in UK is d one writing this nonsense only shows they have another agenda. Doctors can leave to Iraq for all I care they won't be missed, every professional is moving too. Making unnecessary noise about it is irritating 3 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Centcanada: 6:44am On Jun 21, 2018 |
More disaster is more to come on this current curse govt. as i said earlier and someone thought I was joking. The change we are shouting here and there is not real change but chain in their ocultic kingdom. They really want to chain us until they islamize us. God please do something for us your children before is too late |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Chaclaitmilk(m): 6:46am On Jun 21, 2018 |
See this is the unnecessary arrogance and superiority complex people complain that doctors have. SO MANY intelligent people from different professions have left Nigeria or are planning to leave but somehow doctors feel the world must stop when it comes to their case. Biko look at those hundreds of people passing illegal route from Libya to Italy everyday they are trying to escape the hellhole called Nigeria. Many engineers and IT experts and nurses whose contributions would have been very valuable in this country are leaving for greener pastures and they don't make noise or are Nigerian Doctors in their usual fashion assuming that these people's skills and professional know how is less valuable than that of Doctors? Abeg make we hear word, I have been reading from beginning of the thread to see how hard they are trying to make everyone panic over their exodus. It's just hilarious. 2 Likes |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 6:48am On Jun 21, 2018 |
oludyke: This exactly what I my aunt who's a medical doctor told me. The rate doc are leaving Nigeria is surprising. Even professionals are leaving. |
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by deenee: 6:49am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Nigerians don't need doctors. We have our pastors! |
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