[6/15, 17:11] ‪Sam: You are lying and deceiving people here. The same Jesus Christ, you are talking against here, you will encounter one day, either as a Judge or as your Saviour. The choice is yours.


[6/16, 03:48] Odogwuakataaka: Truly people are stupid! This is stupidity. Your inability to accept the truth proves you beyond stupid.
[6/16, 03:50] Odogwuakataaka: Perhaps you assumed you are a Christian and believe in Jesus (as called). As a human, you are not called to believe in me (GM), or believe in yourself, neither were you called to believe in your father or a friend instead to believe in the truth
[6/16, 03:51] Odogwuakataaka: This was why it was boldly written "THE TRUTH YOU KNOW SHALL SET YOU FREE "
[6/16, 03:52] Odogwuakataaka: People read the handwriting on the wall but never understand.
[6/16, 03:55] Odogwuakataaka: You accused me of lieing and deception, I denied for truth can't lie nor deceive. What you don't know: you don't know it. And let me tell you, 'your belief in what you don't know doesn't prove it to be true'.
[6/16, 03:56] Odogwuakataaka: You were been misled that Lucifer is your enemy. How is Lucifer your enemy? If Lucifer was an enemy of humanity, he won't have brought the knowledge to the woman (Eve). What he did was a rebellion to an authority. The authority is been controlled by the most high. When he He (Lucifer) sought for power, what he did was to apply whatever medium he felt could work for him!
[6/16, 03:58] Odogwuakataaka: Understand, when one sought for power, he goes at any length to make it a reality. Take for example, during military era in Nigeria. There was lots of coup de tat (murder of people in authority). This coup was a weapon for ascending to power.
[6/16, 04:00] Odogwuakataaka: A gateway to dethrone sitting authority and to take over power (ruling the people). When a low ranky officer plot a coup and succeded, he assumed power.
[6/16, 04:00] Odogwuakataaka: You don't condemn him or misinterpret the scene thereby call him an enemy of the people
[6/16, 04:01] Odogwuakataaka: What will make him an enemy of the people is his leadership to the people not his action to the sitting authority which saw him to power
[6/16, 04:02] Odogwuakataaka: Power is not a go-getter. If you think it's, try and see!
[6/16, 04:03] Odogwuakataaka: What Lucifer did was similar to what I just said. He sat as a wise angel and wished to rule over mankind haven seen the future (for wisdom sees afar)
[6/16, 04:05] Odogwuakataaka: He sought for a means to bring the purpose into a reality. He knew that approaching the most high or other angels for the mission could not yield positive results. Haven decided to rebel against the authority, he went straight to the woman
[6/16, 04:07] Odogwuakataaka: Now, let me tell you this. Lucifer was a wise angel. He knew that Adam could not afford to listen nor accept him, what he did was to go straight to Eve, when Adam was not around.
[6/16, 04:08] Odogwuakataaka: Furthermore, to perfect his will, he sought among all animals and founded serpent worthy for the mission.
[6/16, 04:08] Odogwuakataaka: Why? Because serpent is a wise animal
[6/16, 04:08] Odogwuakataaka: Do you even know that wisdom doesn't work with foolishness?
[6/16, 04:09] Odogwuakataaka: Wisdom works with wisdom for wisdom
[6/16, 04:10] Odogwuakataaka: When he used the serpent, he got succeded deceiving the woman against the command which ask them not to eat from the tree "knowledge of life"
[6/16, 04:12] Odogwuakataaka: Now, know further, because he wants to make a difference haven no evil intention for maknind but against the most high (who is in authority). He (Lucuifer) didn't ask them to ate from any other fruit which could caused instant death rather he asked them to eat from the tree of knowledge. This is to say, he wished to bring them to a certain realm of reality and possibility as made which was denied for a reason best known by the creator. The gods are wise. None can question their wisdom and authority.
[6/16, 04:14] Odogwuakataaka: He did that to get their eyes open so that they know what they don't know. He understood that with this medium, he could easily control them rather than coming and going like the most high always do.
[6/16, 04:15] Odogwuakataaka: After the action, did you know that he was not condemned rather condemnation was melted against the man, woman and the serpent
[6/16, 04:16] Odogwuakataaka: Hope you are reading? Truth don't lie!
[6/16, 04:16] Odogwuakataaka: This is light house of wisdom where knowledge rules. We tell you the truth. Nothing but the truth!
[6/16, 04:16] Odogwuakataaka: It's the truth you know that shall set you free
[6/16, 04:16] Odogwuakataaka: We are not religious but spiritual

[6/16, 04:17] Odogwuakataaka: Lucifer was not condemned!
Why?
Because he didn't broke any command!
[6/16, 04:17] Odogwuakataaka: It was Eve who broke the command with Adam
[6/16, 04:18] Odogwuakataaka: that was the reason why they got condemned
[6/16, 04:19] Odogwuakataaka: Serpent was condemned also for he knew the truth and has the right to refuse working against the command of the most high (the grand creator)
[6/16, 04:19] Odogwuakataaka: He (Serpent) also got condemned
[6/16, 04:20] Odogwuakataaka: Lucifer was free among them all even though he was the principal head and architect of the scene
[6/16, 04:21] Odogwuakataaka: He (Lucifer) went back and dwelt among the angels and the most high in heavenly kingdom
[6/16, 04:23] Odogwuakataaka: Where he was. His position you must know was not denied of him. Until he refused to change from evil plots against the most high. Instead to change and obey as an Angel, deliverying his services as called, he went further to cause divisions among the angels
[6/16, 04:24] Odogwuakataaka: It was this very act that got the most high much annoyed over him
[6/16, 04:24] Odogwuakataaka: Lucifer deceived many angels and have to cause divisions among them. Some were for Lucifer while some were for the most high.
[6/16, 04:26] Odogwuakataaka: It was at that point that he (the most high) began to host a gathering without him unlike before. Until a day, he was replaced with the the only begotten son.
[6/16, 04:27] Odogwuakataaka: Lucifer upon notification, got annoyed!
[6/16, 04:28] Odogwuakataaka: He rebelled against the authority and have to held the heavenly kingdom in years of war without been defeated.
[6/16, 04:28] Odogwuakataaka: He was so strong to held the kingdom on war for years as a result of wisdom
[6/16, 04:29] Odogwuakataaka: Ife onye mara, ibe ya mara ya... What one knows, so others knows. This is what wisdom does
[6/16, 04:30] Odogwuakataaka: Wisdom brings the power. Wisdom is power. Without wisdom, there's no power. It's wisdom and power. The knowledge that makes the difference!
[6/16, 04:33] Odogwuakataaka: The war on lasted for years until a day, the most high have to empower angel Michael (chief of armies) with high supernatural force. Michael engaged Lucifer on an unending fight which saw him (Lucifer) defeated and was descended (cast away from heaven).
[6/16, 04:34] Odogwuakataaka: He lost the fight and made himself an enemy of the most high not human

[6/16, 04:36] Odogwuakataaka: Even when you have left, I hereby warn you cease to argue upon ignorant. Religion has little or no spiritual information to give you more than the spirits.
[6/16, 04:37] Odogwuakataaka: This is why you must aspire to get more spiritual than your religious leaders. Upon spiritual connect, you access further spiritual information than abracadabra you were meant to believe in a religious family
[6/16, 04:39] Odogwuakataaka: Light house of wisdom can't deceive nor pass wrong spiritual information for we despise lies.
Holy spirits despise lies.
This is why they can't afford to work hand to hand with liars
[6/16, 04:40] Odogwuakataaka: The truth we know we make known to you. The truth you know shall set you free
[6/16, 04:40] Odogwuakataaka: Stop fighting a fight for the gods, allow the gods to fight their fight. Doing so will only prove you more foolish
[6/16, 04:41] Odogwuakataaka: It's like praying die die that all most all Christians pray nowadays. Does spirits die?
[6/16, 04:42] Odogwuakataaka: There are more which you must know to make a difference. Why must you engage your time and energy talking rubbish in the name of prayers?
[6/16, 04:42] Odogwuakataaka: What is die die die? Die by fire! Do you know what death is all about?
[6/16, 04:43] Odogwuakataaka: I understand you don't know the meaning of death
[6/16, 04:43] Odogwuakataaka: If you had known, you find out that spirits don't die therefore shouldn't pray for them to die.
[6/16, 04:45] Odogwuakataaka: When you are been manipulated. It's negative energy (mmuo ojoo) that is responsible for such assignments.
[6/16, 04:46] Odogwuakataaka: Why do I have to tell you all these, because I know more than you do. I know the operation and how to initiate it. Which you lack the knowledge for the main time. Why you pay attention to learn and grow in knowledge
[6/16, 04:47] Odogwuakataaka: As we send positive energies so we send negative energies.
Why?
Because they are all energies, workforce which can't resist when we invite and send them for a mission


[6/16, 04:49] James Lagos: Great teaching


[6/16, 04:49] Odogwuakataaka: This is why I always caution you. I warned, be mindful of your affirmation during rituals. Mind what you say. Just like a popular saying 'same mouth we use to call PASS we also use to call FELL'
[6/16, 04:50] Odogwuakataaka: It's a knowledge that makes a difference
[6/16, 04:51] Odogwuakataaka: The same ritual materials you used to call for prosperity, when guided, you use it to cause poverty and hardship for someone else or even for yourself


[6/16, 04:51] James Lagos: Ignorance is a sin


[6/16, 04:52] Odogwuakataaka: Why I laugh at people who are deceiving themselves while praying , speaking unfamiliar and unknown language in the name of speaking in tongues


[6/16, 04:52] Onwuka Godspower: Papa you are too much, more light to your paths


[6/16, 04:52] Odogwuakataaka: Men create monster that leave after them


[6/16, 04:53] James Lagos: Sir, how do we do the right thing to avoid inviting poverty to ourselves or someone else


[6/16, 04:54] Odogwuakataaka: Because spirits don't die, even when you are under evil spell and have to feel the effect, understand its not human that is fighting you but a spirit. Therefore, you praying for death upon the spirit is an ignorant.
[6/16, 04:55] Odogwuakataaka: If you said you are a Christian (Christ like) did you took time to read through his account while he was on earth?
[6/16, 04:55] Odogwuakataaka: Did you hear him asked any spirit to die?


[6/16, 04:57] James Ezenwa Lagos: Is it bad to use the Jesus Christ name while praying during a ritual?


[6/16, 05:01] Odogwuakataaka: Did you read him saying asking for evil spirits to die?
If you didn't, why do you waste time and energy praying for impossible task? Have you seen why they pray day and night without prayer answered?
[6/16, 05:02] Odogwuakataaka: I ask you to make a difference man
[6/16, 05:02] Odogwuakataaka: You must make a difference

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Lucifer is not a "he" but a "she"... It is not a proper name of any being. It is a title and only a woman can have the title... It is a roman title and literary means 'light bearer'.. Exoterically it means mother of the light, so if you can figure out who the light or what the light is... Then you will know who lucifer is.. Clue:John8:12(or 12:..

The Bini /yoruba know her as Olokun, the Greeks as Aphrodite, the ancient Egyptians as Ishtar, the Romans as Venus, the sumerians as Inanna, the Indians as shiva... Etc...

Believe it or not, the Christians know her as the Madonna or Mary the mother of jesus.. She is also the morning star..

She is the Goddess of death and destruction.

Lucifer is not the devil, the devil is Nergal he is the God of the underworld and cross road, that is what we know as Esu or Ekwensu, the devil was never independent or equal and opposite to God. He has always been part of God and does only what God approves for him to do.. There must be an expressed permission as indicated in the story of Job..

It is the Romans who came later on in history and elevated the devil to an independent, equal and opposite to God, so they can sell the idea of a saviour God to the illiterate and ignorance masses..
Pls don't be caught in the deception.

Study carefully

Lies camouflaged as truth. People must be very watchful!. The line between truth and lie is becoming more thinner. Deception has levels, it will look very genuine and right at first then like a flash the reality dawns on you, only for you to realize you've been decieved. This may not happen until it becomes to late to make amends.

Any 'truth' that relegates Jesus Christ at the back burner and encourages separation of the brethren, is not truth.

What we need to know now is how we can make it to heaven, and that can only come through Jesus Christ. Lucifer has fallen, and has been defeated. He is only waiting for his final sentence. My people be warned, deception will never look like deception. You may not even realize it unless the Holy Spirit opens your eyes.

It's all about Jesus Christ. Shalom.

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Lucifer is the Goddess of death and destruction.. That makes her God's enemy and our enemy too.

Marduk and Inanna are enemies... Because she accused marduk of being responsible for the death of her lover Dimuzi... So marduk was tried by the council which were mostly Enlilites and they passed a guilty verdict.. He was scorged and placed in a tomb.. But his father sent his brother Ninghishida to revive him..

He was later found not guilty by the great George Anu,.
Quite interesting tale...

For your information, the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk.

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LastDays777:
The story of Lucifer (Azazel) was explained in details in the book of Enoch which was removed from the bible long ago.

Read the book of Enoch to understand what he did with the other angels

Am shocked by what am reading here...

What brought Azazel in this discussion or you want to argue blindly without deep knowledge?
Is Azazel same as Lucifer?
Why do you people like commenting when you lack knowledge of the truth?
Must you comment to prove your ignorant?
How is Azazel same with Lucifer?
Tell us, reader of book of Enoch!

sonmvayina:
Lucifer is the Goddess of death and destruction.. That makes her God's enemy and our enemy too.

Marduk and Inanna are enemies... Because she accused marduk of being responsible for the death of her lover Dimuzi... So marduk was tried by the council which were mostly Enlilites and they passed a guilty verdict.. He was scorged and placed in a tomb.. But his father sent his brother Ninghishida to revive him..

He was later found not guilty by the great George Anu,.
Quite interesting tale...

For your information, the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk.

So Lucifer is a goddess?
Readers!

the world was full of Good wisdom until Lucifer came and introduced demonic bad wisdom under the disguise of knowledge of Good and bad .Read the book of enoch to learn more about all the demonic wicked wisdom that Lucifer and his watchers demons introduced to mankind.The wisdom of how to make weapon to kill fellow man.the wisdom of how to commit abortion.The wisdom of how to fornicate without getting pregnant.The wisdom of how to control fellow man through witchcraft.The wisdom of how to kill through occult practice .The wisdom of seduction .The wisdom of crime all over the universe.The wisdom of How to sleep with animals in order to create a hybrid offspring.The wisdom of cross breeding among humans,animal and even plants .All this and many more were the wisdom Lucifer and his demons brought to mankind.just read the book of enoch and some books removed from the bible for unknown reason to learn more.Lucifer has always hated mankind from the beginning.he has no single love for human.man was originally created to be above angels ,including Lucifer.Man was made the God of this earth .Satan was so full of hate for mankind because of this .how can man be above him and why must he be the ruler of this world.That was why Satan decide to reverse and steal all that was bestowed on man by the most high.By deceiving Adam and eve,he stole the ownership of this world from Adam.he now parade himself as the god of this earth.But Christ came and took back that power from Satan and gave it back to as many that are willing to accept him Jesus .if you are genuine born again,then you are the god of this earth and Satan is right beneath you to obey.Satan is a deceiver.he hates mankind more than God himself.

bunbit23:



What brought Azazel in this discussion or you want to argue blindly without deep knowledge?
Is Azazel same as Lucifer?
Why do you people like commenting when you lack knowledge of the truth?
Must you comment to prove your ignorant?
How is Azazel same with Lucifer?
Tell us, reader of book of Enoch!

Seems you understand it more than I do. For I know nothing.

Who am I?

Please do explain...

1) Op said Lucifer is called Aphrodite, Beelzebub etc. by various religious groups.
WRONG.

Lucifer is Satan or the devil.
Aphrodite, Beelzebub and all other demons are worshipped by people(pagans) as gods of this or that.

Revelations 12:9. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."


2) The OP says the devil came down and deceived Eve while he was still in heaven. The Bible says otherwise.

The book of Revelation 12:12 states "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath,..."

3) OP said the devil is not evil and does not seek humanity's destruction
Jesus says "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."John 8:44-45

Revelation 12:9. "....called the Devil, which deceiveth the whole world".

The war is not with guns and swords. The weapon of war is Lies/deception fighting against the Truth.

Colossians 3:6. "Be not deceived, for because of this comes the wrath of God upon the children of DISOBEDIENCE.

sonmvayina:
Lucifer is the Goddess of death and destruction.. That makes her God's enemy and our enemy too.

Marduk and Inanna are enemies... Because she accused marduk of being responsible for the death of her lover Dimuzi... So marduk was tried by the council which were mostly Enlilites and they passed a guilty verdict.. He was scorged and placed in a tomb.. But his father sent his brother Ninghishida to revive him..

He was later found not guilty by the great George Anu,.
Quite interesting tale...

For your information, the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk.

In the Bible, the subject used on the devil is HE.
In your fairy tales, it's a "SHE".

There are gods and goddesses of thunder, fertility, sicknesses, misfortune, war, water etc. They are all demons worshipped by pagans and given a suitable name according to how the spirit/demons manifests to them. They are all fallen angels and roam the earth.

Their leader and master is Satan.

The leader of Christianity is JESUS CHRIST and only through him any flesh shall be saved.

bunbit23:


So Lucifer is a goddess?
Readers!

Yes, she is the Goddess of death and destruction, her equivalent in Bini /yoruba will be olokun..
She is also Aphrodite, Venus, shiva, ishtar, Inanna... She is also Mary in the Christian religion..

bunbit23:


So Lucifer is a goddess?
Readers!

Yes, she is the Goddess of death and destruction, her equivalent in Bini /yoruba will be olokun..
She is also Aphrodite, Venus, shiva, ishtar, Inanna... She is also Mary in the Christian religion..

Lucifer is a title and it literally means "light bearer".. You and I know that jesus is the light According to John gospel.. So the light bearer will be Mary... She is also the morning star.. These are her titles in the litany..

Op.. You tried but really! It ain't the whole truth. Lucifer was condemned also in that same garden. Do you even know that God intentionally allowed him to deceive eve and then Adam? So He can humiliate him and bring him down to complete destruction being very prideful and arrogant.

Tosinex:
Op.. You tried but really! It ain't the whole truth. Lucifer was condemned also in that same garden. Do you even know that God intentionally allowed him to deceive eve and then Adam? So He can humiliate him and bring him down to complete destruction being very prideful and arrogant.

I disagree with you on this... How can the Almighty allow the devil to use his own creation simply because he wanted to humiliate him? Are you trying to prove that God isn't fair in his dealings?