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Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 7:50am On Jul 06, 2018
Afonja's 1817 rebellion and subsequent Jihadist raids by Awusa/Fulani/Yoruba Muslims from Ilorin had done so much damage to the power and stability of the Odua people. Lagos was invaded by British forces in 1851 with little or no resistance and formally annexed in 1861. The British maintained Lagos as a strategic port city from where they traded with the hinterland natives, mostly in slaves in exchange for guns. The British will arm both the Jihadist and the Yoruba resistance up until they were asked to broker a truce between Ilorin and Ibadan. The outcome of this, was the establishment of a full-fledged Emirate which became an extension of the Sokoto Caliphate. Sokoto never forgot this good will and as such were open to talks and trade with the British invaders. Then the Kiriji wars began - an inter-cine civil war among the Yorubas in their shrinking empire. The 16 yr conflict began from 1877 up till 1893. The British continued to support each warring faction to both elongate the conflict to further weaken the remnant of what was once the great Oyo empire and also to benefit financially from the senseless conflict.

The Yorubas will then approach the same British to help end the conflict and come and rule them. It is from this point that the British got a solid footing into Nigeria and in just 8yrs (1901) later, the entire Nigerian territory was declared a colony of Britain.

By 1914, out of financial and administrative exigency, the amalgamation of both Northern and Southern protectorates was declared by Lugard.

The period 1914-1960 were the glory years for the Yorubas as they witnessed no wars and Yoruba unity began to emerge.

In 1960, with the British departing, the Yorubas almost immediately began their unnecessary squabbles. Riots and electoral violence were a hallmark of the old Western Region electoral process. It seemed the Yoruba were not capable of deciding their leaders through democratic and civil means.

The fallout of the political crisis in the old Western Region has been linked to the motivation of the misplaced Marxist coup which will later kick start the Nigerian Civil war.

The Military era between 1966 -1979, saw a cessation of Yoruba acrimony and senseless warring among themselves only for it to rear it's ugly head during the civilian era of Shehu Shagari. The pattern of peaceful co-existence within the Yoruba peoples continues with subsequent military dispensations up until the return to democratic rule in 1999 and from where the Yorubas began their incessant warring over the ballot-box.

It is thus safe to assume the following;

1. That for all the talk of civility and sophistication, the Yoruba is incapable of deciding in a civil and democratic manner whom to lead or represent them.

2. SW Nigeria has been the pioneering region of all democratic vices such as ballot snatching, thuggery, voter disenfranchisement, voter enticement and what not.

3. That the Yoruba requires a powerful third party to administer peace and Justice among them.

Is this then no wonder why the average Yoruba is afraid of an independent sovereign state knowing fully well that a Yoruba Nation will be an anarchist's pipe-dream.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by Taich(m): 8:31am On Jul 06, 2018
When you write a piece like this, refrain from foul languages and back up your claims with citations.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 8:36am On Jul 06, 2018
[s]
Taich:
When you write a piece like this, refrain from foul languages and back up your claims with citations.
[/s]

This is NOT Wikipedia and I am not here to bag a doctorate degree.

Besides, can you point the foul language I used in composing this post?

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by GMbuharii: 8:39am On Jul 06, 2018
Very unset and imbalanced ppl.
Betrayals backstabbers traitors
sophisticated murauons
true coneheads
ever ready to worship the awusa lords and masters just to lubricate their bambam grin
Lzaa immhotep.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by LZAA: 9:05am On Jul 06, 2018
GMbuharii:
Very unset and imbalanced ppl.
Betrayals backstabbers traitors
sophisticated murauons
true coneheads
ever ready to worship the awusa lords and masters just to lubricate their bambam grin
Lzaa immhotep.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by nku5: 9:46am On Jul 06, 2018
The return of ODB cool

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 9:51am On Jul 06, 2018
nku5:
The return of ODB cool

Old school NLer

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by Taich(m): 10:07am On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:
[s][/s]

This is NOT Wikipedia and I am not here to bag a doctorate degree.

Besides, can you point the foul language I used in composing this post?
I am sorry, I spotted something that I taught wasn't right. Have a nice weekend.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by BreakupNigeria: 10:36am On Jul 06, 2018
Very apt and informative analysis. However, I want to add more reasons why the yorubas are morbidly afraid of break up of Nigeria hence their hatred for IPOB and other separatist groups fighting for Biafra.

1. They know they can't recover Ilorin and Okun lands from the fulani.

2. It will lead to the exodus of Igbos and other Easterners from Lagos and coupled with the drastic loss of oil revenue from the Niger Delta and import duties from Igbos using the sea ports and airports will certainly lead to the collapse of the Lagos economy.

3. They are more divided than many people thought, and the impression of religious harmony is just a facade because their Christians have accepted a subservient attitude to their Muslims who are emboldened by the caliphate to influence the affairs of Yorubaland, now once Nigeria breaks up, their Muslim brothers will lose the advantage they currently have and their would be a balance of power which could lead to supremacy battles.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by nku5: 1:07pm On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:


Old school NLer


Tuale

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by michae1004: 1:39pm On Jul 06, 2018
More grease to your elbow op.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by LZAA: 2:39pm On Jul 06, 2018
BreakupNigeria:
Very apt and informative analysis. However, I want to add more reasons why the yorubas are morbidly afraid of break up of Nigeria hence their hatred for IPOB and other separatist groups fighting for Biafra.

1. They know they can't recover Ilorin and Okun lands from the fulani.

2. It will lead to the exodus of Igbos and other Easterners from Lagos and coupled with the drastic loss of oil revenue from the Niger Delta and import duties from Igbos using the sea ports and airports will certainly lead to the collapse of the Lagos economy.

3. They are more divided than many people thought, and the impression of religious harmony is just a facade because their Christians have accepted a subservient attitude to their Muslims who are emboldened by the caliphate to influence the affairs of Yorubaland, now once Nigeria breaks up, their Muslim brothers will lose the advantage they currently have and their would be a balance of power which could lead to supremacy battles.
Give this bro two crates of ace
During the civil war they took over all federal offices and saw their inepititude
Dats why they always scream one nigger area grin

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by T9ksy(m): 5:17pm On Jul 06, 2018
LZAA:

Give this bro two crates of ace
During the civil war they took over all federal offices and saw their inepititude
Dats why they always scream one nigger area grin


And before the war, didn't you ibos took over most of the federal parasitals simply "cause of your elites' servitude to the Sarduna's minion?

Which region's elders were shouting "One Nigeria" before independence, even as their people were been slaughter in the north?


Mischief is well and fully embedded in your DNA

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 5:38pm On Jul 06, 2018
T9ksy:



And before the war, didn't you ibos took over most of the federal parasitals simply "cause of your elites' servitude to the Sarduna's minion?

So it was the same Sarduna who stated that he will expel Igbos and also restrict employment into the northern civil service to non-Igbos after the British handover is the one that now employed Igbos into the federal civil service?

When had the Sarduna ever become Prime Minister or in direct control of who gets employed or sacked from the federal civil service?

The same Sarduna that is reputed to have openly declared before independence his plan to sack all Igbos working under the Northern Civil Service?

Is this threat by the Sarduna to sack Igbos working in the north not why Awolowo introduced Hausa language into the education curriculam of the defunct Western Region in-order to capitulate on the soon to be declared vacancies in the northern civil service owing to the sacking of Igbos that were employed and retained by the British colonial administration?


Guy, the Igbos dominated the civil service post-independence and prior to 1966 NOT by any favorable policy towards them by the British or the Sarduna you are foolishly asserting to but by their sheer competency.

Stop all these lies afonja, it will take you no way but into more despair and bitterness.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 5:48pm On Jul 06, 2018

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 5:49pm On Jul 06, 2018
aribisala0:


I understand.

The truth is just too much to handle.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 5:52pm On Jul 06, 2018

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 5:58pm On Jul 06, 2018
aribisala0:

Afonja, karma is real and she is currently on her way.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 6:00pm On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:


Afonja, karma is real and she is currently on her way.


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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by LZAA: 6:04pm On Jul 06, 2018
T9ksy:



And before the war, didn't you ibos took over most of the federal parasitals simply "cause of your elites' servitude to the Sarduna's minion?

Which region's elders were shouting "One Nigeria" before independence, even as their people were been slaughter in the north?


Mischief is well and fully embedded in your DNA
U know what's funny?
Every region apart from the SW has sought to leave this false contraption
Check it:
North:revenge coup/araba riots
Middle belt:orkar coup albeit backed by ss officers
SS: adaka boro
SE: Biafra
Now wia is the sw?
No hold on,they are sophisticated?
Mba,wait they have politicial sagacity grin
I will refer u to the politics section wia the "why yorubas need sokoto thread" resides
Oh and by igbo elders i'm guessing u mean the great zik who was a pan african independence fighter rather than a national coon who swallowed ratak after trying a coup too many
History no matter how twisted can never lie
Cc immhotep pointzerom iceberg3 greenback

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by Dtribeless: 6:08pm On Jul 06, 2018
Afonja this! Afonja that! Yet, you and your fellow Igbos won't move out of Afonja land. It's tiring; una no tire?

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 6:13pm On Jul 06, 2018
[s]
Dtribeless:
Afonja this! Afonja that! Yet, you and your fellow Igbos won't move out of Afonja land. It's tiring; una no tire?
[/s]

Declare Independence and from there you have the right to deport every Igbo man, woman and child in your new Nation.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by T9ksy(m): 6:14pm On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:


So it was the same Sarduna who stated that he will expel Igbos and also restrict employment into the northern civil service to non-Igbos after the British handover is the one that now employed Igbos into the federal civil service?

Yes the same sardunna and he did expel many ibos from the northern civil service. He called it the "Northernisation policy" because he was well aware of you ibo's proclivity to covert other peoples' region.



When had the Sarduna ever become Prime Minister or in direct control of who gets employed or sacked from the federal civil service?

And who said anything about the sardunna ever Nigerian prime minister? The guy didn't give a rat's a.r.s.e about Nigeria but he cared much for his people hence after you greedy so-and-so postrate for him in the 1st republic, he appointed his side kick Tafawa Balewa to lord it over your slimy Zik of Africa whist he remained back with his beloved people as their premier. However, nothing gets done at the centre without his approval.



The same Sarduna that is reputed to have openly declared before independence his plan to sack all Igbos working under the Northern Civil Service?

Yes, the same one...……..and to whom your impish leaders bowed to, then thinking as he wasn't as educated as zik, it will be easy to manipulate him in due course and thereabout make good your prophesy about the ibos eventual domination of Nigeria...…………………..is just a matter of time. Bloody greedy lot.


Is this threat by the Sarduna to sack Igbos working in the north not why Awolowo introduced Hausa language into the education curriculam of the defunct Western Region in-order to capitulate on the soon to be declared vacancies in the northern civil service owing to the sacking of Igbos that were employed and retained by the British colonial administration?

And how many yorubas left the western region to take up posts in the north?


Guy, the Igbos dominated the civil service post-independence and prior to 1966 NOT by any favorable policy towards them by the British or the Sarduna you are foolishly asserting to but by their sheer competency.

Of course, the ibos took up posts in the civil service out of sheer competence tongue. That was probably why, even in the western region where they had free education (and places like Ekiti where it's reputed that there's at least a Professor in every family), yet the ibos saw it fit to be VC of all the higher institutions in yorubaland. No yorubaman was competent enough to become VC in his backyard.


[s]Stop all these lies afonja, it will take you no way but into more despair and bitterness.[/s]

Pure and utter trash.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by T9ksy(m): 6:19pm On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:
[s][/s]

Declare Independence and from there you have the right to deport every Igbo man, woman and child in your new Nation.


when we are ready to deport you guys back to your erosion-ravaged villages, we will and there's sweat F. A you lot can do about it except wail.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 6:20pm On Jul 06, 2018
T9ksy:


Pure and utter trash.


organize your post well

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 6:21pm On Jul 06, 2018
[s]
T9ksy:



when we are ready to deport you guys back to your erosion-ravaged villages, we will and there's sweat F. A you lot can do about it except wail.
[/s]

See this roach...

Deport who?

Will there be any single Yoruba man with balls left to do that?

Cucked lords

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by T9ksy(m): 6:21pm On Jul 06, 2018
LZAA:

[s]U know what's funny?
Every region apart from the SW has sought to leave this false contraption
Check it:
North:revenge coup/araba riots
Middle belt:orkar coup albeit backed by ss officers
SS: adaka boro
SE: Biafra
Now wia is the sw?
No hold on,they are sophisticated?
Mba,wait they have politicial sagacity grin
I will refer u to the politics section wia the "why yorubas need sokoto thread" resides
Oh and by igbo elders i'm guessing u mean the great zik who was a pan african independence fighter rather than a national coon who swallowed ratak after trying a coup too many
History no matter how twisted can never lie
Cc immhotep pointzerom iceberg3 greenback[/s]


Sporry, I don't argue with a fool.

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 6:22pm On Jul 06, 2018
12Monkeys:


organize your post well
Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by 12Monkeys: 6:23pm On Jul 06, 2018
aribisala0:

Why are you afonjas not able to organize a simple post?

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 6:24pm On Jul 06, 2018

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by aribisala0(m): 6:24pm On Jul 06, 2018

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Re: Why Yorubas Need Sokoto by LZAA: 6:31pm On Jul 06, 2018
T9ksy:



Sporry, I don't argue with a fool.
Lol
Typical afonja response
I expected nothing less
Btw the question remains
Why has the SW refused to leave this lugard creation?

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