studentofTruth:



The Baptism clearly showed the Tri-unity of God. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three persons that define the Trinity.

Adamh:


Jesus being God is simply impossible under any logical circumstances. God is said to be an infinite being, so, tell me how you can contain any percentage of an infinity within a non self sustainable heterotrophic mammal that still had to eat and drink to survive?

Maximus85:


Can you please show us in the Bible?

Adamh:


There is literally a verse of Jesus saying he only acts on the commands of God (his 'father') and also saying he can of himself do nothing. Your own bibles shoot you people in the feet severally yet you're too blind to see that.

studentofTruth:


Same place you read about Baptism, the three persons in Trinity are clearly shown.

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." -1 John 5:7
Gospel of John chapter 1......the Word = Jesus.

Therefore, the Father, the Son(Jesus) and the Holy Spirit are one.....Trinity.

studentofTruth:


Same place you read about Baptism, the three persons in Trinity are clearly shown.

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." -1 John 5:7
Gospel of John chapter 1......the Word = Jesus.

Therefore, the Father, the Son(Jesus) and the Holy Spirit are one.....Trinity.

Maximus85:


Oga, stop deceiving yourself. That's what you deceive foolish people with "things of the spirit" the Bible is whole. The Bible is complete. Anything outside the Bible is devilish.

If you can't back your confusion with the scriptures.... Pls stop responding.

studentofTruth:


Yes. Because He and His Father are United so much that the Father lives in him. He went ahead to say that He speaks not by himself but the Father in Him that speaks through him. Thats the level of their unity.

He can of himself do nothing.... That's the truth. The human Christ could only function because of the Father in him. Remember He left His place in Heaven to become Human....in the true sense of the word(felt hunger, thirsty, ate, drank and even shit like every normal human). That human person could of himself do nothing without the Father acting in Him. While on earth Jesus was perfectly human. But was JESUS God before coming on earth as human....YES. After His work of redemption was completed, did go back to His place in Heaven as God...YES. Make no mistake about it.
The Apostles' creed reads...."True God and True Man"
In Heaven He's God. He came on earth as a perfect human but though a human on earth, he was still united with His Father.

Would you tell me it's impossible for God?

Gospel of John is there for you to read and digest.
Peace

OneJ:
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1 John 5:7 (KJV) u quoted above was forged to spice up the fallacy called Trinity. It's a spurious text. inserted into the holy scriptures. Tom , Dick & Harry no be trinity likewise, God ,Jesus & holy spirit.

The authentic 1 John 5:7 rendition is :
"There are three that testify."


"He is called by the name the word of God" ( Rev19:13) because " In the past God spoke to us through the prophets many times but in these last days he has spoken to us THROUGH His son whom he appointed heir of all things"
Hebrew 1:1,2.

Jesus Christ is God's spokesman. In other words, he is God's PRO. Christ is not God Almighty himself.
Shalom.

OneJ:
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"NOW I want you to realise that the head of every man is Christ ,& the head of the woman is man & the head of Christ is God". 1 Cor 11:3.



"Blessed be the God & the Father of our lord Jesus Christ.....". Ephesians 1:3.


Note that Christ was already in heaven when Apostle Paul by divine inspiration made these disclosure.

studentofTruth:


Forged by you abi?.
Because it chatters your lies, you call it forgery. Continue cherry-picking whatever helps your unbelief until the last day. Why not complete that verse you quoted up there? Are you afraid of the Truth? Only the Truth will set you free.
But even with the selected quote you put up, what exactly is your headache there? ....His Son? By being His son He's automatically God by his nature and essense. Heir of all things? Just like the Crowned Prince, His Father's kingdom and all therein belongs to Him.

Embrace the Truth and set yourself free man.
Peace.

Ghostmode2two:


Jesus Christ is the son of God and there is no where in the Bible where referred to himself as God. He was always saying my father in heaven.

studentofTruth:




Depends on what you understand by what Paul said there. What's the issue there? That's Jesus is the Son of God united with His Father or what exactly?

Hear Paul again here
Phil2:6
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

studentofTruth:


Yes. Because He and His Father are United so much that the Father lives in him. He went ahead to say that He speaks not by himself but the Father in Him that speaks through him. Thats the level of their unity.

He can of himself do nothing.... That's the truth. The human Christ could only function because of the Father in him. Remember He left His place in Heaven to become Human....in the true sense of the word(felt hunger, thirsty, ate, drank and even shit like every normal human). That human person could of himself do nothing without the Father acting in Him. While on earth Jesus was perfectly human. But was JESUS God before coming on earth as human....YES. After His work of redemption was completed, did go back to His place in Heaven as God...YES. Make no mistake about it.
The Apostles' creed reads...."True God and True Man"
In Heaven He's God. He came on earth as a perfect human but though a human on earth, he was still united with His Father.

Would you tell me it's impossible for God?

Gospel of John is there for you to read and digest.
Peace

studentofTruth:


O man and his little mind wants to understand God's logic.
By your assertion sir, you not only put a limit on God's power, you also dictated what God must not do. If God is all powerful, he can do anything he pleases. He can chose to be an ant and He becomes an ant because He has the powers to do it and did it. If God choose to become bread, He will become because He has the powers to make himself bread.
That God pleases to become human and live with his creatures should not be something impossible because God can do whatever He wants.
He wanted to become man and live and die in the hands of human so as to redeem mankind, He did because that pleased Him.

You mere mortal with your little logic cannot come here and dictate what God can and can't do or what God should and shouldn't do? How dare you?

sonmvayina:


So you have still not killed the babies (childish thought) just as God commanded and saved only the women who has not known a man (divine wisdom)... The battle indeed is within...

Apply small sense.. For God is the personification of totality of the consciousness of the universe..

Ghostmode2two:


Nothing to apply. The words of Jesus in the bible are very clear. Jesus is the son of God the most high. Jesus is not God!!!

hi3:
Indeed people perish for lack of knowledge

John 5:16-18,

"And for this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17But He answered them, 'My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working. 18For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."

They thought that was what he was doing. But Jesus never ever thought he was God or equal to God. Jesus is a God. He was called Mighty God but not Almighty God. Jesus has a beginning. Colosians 1:15 He was referred to as the first born of all creation. He was created.

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

Throw that book you're reading away. In more that 5 translations I've studied, never mentioned "who is God himself" is that what you read or you added your own. Woe unto who ever adds or remove.


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[b]Word was WITH. of course Jesus was with God. If you read verse 14, you will understand. Cos the word became flesh.... Because of John 3:16. God is not a name, it's a title. It means creator. Colosian 1:15 shows that Jesus was also a God, because through him, all other things were created. "Through him" means someone is above him, the Almighty God, the creator of the creators.

[/b]1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Oga, you don't understand simple sentence structure? Who is the HIS mentioned in this verse?
If you know, then you know who is referred to as the true God. But definitely, Jesus Christ is the object in that sentence not the subject.

Phil2:6

Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

TruthHurts100:


Oga, though he was a creator, he did not think of equality with his God, his own creator. Your father gave birth to you. Now you've given birth to a son. We now have two fathers but you can never be equal to your own father. Simple insight for a pure mind.

hi3:
Olodo

Let me just pick the last one and explain the difference between subject and Object to you. At least, that's English.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life

Mister, that's the subject: "Son of God"

You lack both spiritual and language comprehension

deebrownneymar:
I thank the OP very much for creating this post. This is one of the comments Jesus made that I am still unable to crack. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone here has been able to address this topic. If Jesus was a programmer ehn....

omojeesu:
It means let those spiritually dead in their sins be preoccupied with the cares and socials of burial ceremonies. Buy you be preoccupied with following me.

Jesus wasn't saying we should not bury our dead but that should not waste / spend time on frivolous things.

CodeTemplar:
He is. He came in human flesh to fulfil the same scriptures that carries his substance and manifested himself. He is an integral part of God and therefore God in a sense but also represents our access or gateway to God.

DEHVEHLOP:

I believe Jesus is not God!










So the Bible is right! No matter what, human can never be God

Adamh:


So, you're saying that God will willingly bellitle himself to take the form of an ant? Look, I'm not saying God can't take whatever form he pleases, he simply wouldn't regress himself to take the form of an imperfect being because it is literally the most insulting thing he could do to his status as an all powerful all capable being.

Adamh:


Either Jesus was perfectly God or he was perfectly human. Pick one. He can't be both and neither at the same time. Please, try reading what you just wrote and see if it makes any damn sense.

OneJ:
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What U read in 1 Cor 11:3 &Ephesians 1:3, is it rocket science?

Why twist Phil 2:6 out of context ?
V5 " Your attitude should be the same as Jesus Christ
v6 Who although existing in the form of God , did not consider equality with God some thing to be grasped"

Going by Phil 2:5 & your insinuations on verse 6, U & I have the same attitude of Christ, therefore, U & I ,are we God Almighty too ? (Abi, U go deny am...)

Pls take note of the expression. ," in the form of God , (not God himself) what U quoted above in Phil 2:6, is different from the Greek interlinear text rendition. Jesus is not Almighty God , contrary to what U insinuated.


"For who has known the mind of the Lord (Jehovah/ Yahweh) that we may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ" 1 Cor 2:6. ( quoted from Isaiah 40:13).


Christ himself does not have the mind of God his Father, he is not God Almighty.

studentofTruth:



My friend take time to read my Saudi-Arabia King and Crowned Prince analogy. There's nothing too difficult to understand there. So I don't think your case is that of ignorance rather it's out of jealousy just like the Pharisees. It can be likened to a Saudi's citizens being jealous of the Crowned Prince and saying that the Crowned Prince is nothing more than a Saudi citizen appointed to a high post. But within you, you know it's a big lie. He's the Crowned Prince based on His DNA(scientifically speaking). He has the DNA of His Father the King. His Father's blood flows in His veins.

Likewise Jesus. Jesus is God based on who He be. Based on His DNA. He is the only begotten SON of His Father. He has the DNA of God. To say that Jesus is a man appointed to a high position is pure jealousy.

Jesus is God based on His "DNA"(ie by His nature and essence). There are ONLY THREE PERSONS that bear this "DNA"
....The Father
.....The Son
.....The Holy Spirit.
These three persons are UNITED. The three persons are united in their will, interest and purpose as one. The homage you pay to one is paid to all 3. They're so united that in one, you see the other. Jesus said ....I and the Father are one, Jn10:30; if you see me you have seen the Father, Jn14:7-9; the Father is in me and I in the Father, Jn14:10-11. (Are you calling Jesus a liar? You must be a Pharisee)

Jesus is one with His Father, but is Jesus the same person as his Father? ...No. There's the person of the Father, the person of Jesus and the person of the Holy Spirit. These 3 persons bear the "DNA"(nature and essence) of God. These 3 identifiable Divine persons yet UNITED as one is called The Holy Trinity.

It's clear enough for you to understand unless you're one more Pharisee jealous of Jesus.

peace.

studentofTruth:






My friend take time to read my Saudi-Arabia King and Crowned Prince analogy. There's nothing too difficult to understand there. So I don't think your case is that of ignorance rather it's out of jealousy just like the Pharisees. It can be likened to a Saudi's citizens being jealous of the Crowned Prince and saying that the Crowned Prince is nothing more than a Saudi citizen appointed to a high post. But within you, you know it's a big lie. He's the Crowned Prince based on His DNA(scientifically speaking). He has the DNA of His Father the King. His Father's blood flows in His veins.

Likewise Jesus. Jesus is God based on who He be. Based on His DNA. He is the only begotten SON of His Father. He has the DNA of God. To say that Jesus is a man appointed to a high position is pure jealousy.

Jesus is God based on His "DNA"(ie by His nature and essence). There are ONLY THREE PERSONS that bear this "DNA"
....The Father
.....The Son
.....The Holy Spirit.
These three persons are UNITED. The three persons are united in their will, interest and purpose as one. The homage you pay to one is paid to all 3. They're so united that in one, you see the other. Jesus said ....I and the Father are one, Jn10:30; if you see me you have seen the Father, Jn14:7-9; the Father is in me and I in the Father, Jn14:10-11. (Are you calling Jesus a liar? You must be a Pharisee)

Jesus is one with His Father, but is Jesus the same person as his Father? ...No. There's the person of the Father, the person of Jesus and the person of the Holy Spirit. These 3 persons bear the "DNA"(nature and essence) of God. These 3 identifiable Divine persons yet UNITED as one is called The Holy Trinity.

It's clear enough for you to understand unless you're one more Pharisee jealous of Jesus.

peace.