slivertongue:

nations &laws aint abstracts bt protects positive individual interest

Now we are learning ( Just as you said "Positive' that was the word you omitted in your first comment). we all should be careful because people grow in knowledge with our comments... thank you!!!

GoTV:
Good. God bless buhari for this . If Buhari had followed rule of law vagabonds like Nnamdi Kanu who is hell bent on destabilising our lovely and prosperous country will still be roaming because of rule of law. People like Dasuki and Elzakyzaky will also keep perpetuating criminality under rule of law. Dictatorship is the best form of government.

Naso kanu dey give u night mare reach

ITbomb:
No matter whether national or individual interest, rule of law supersedes all

Even American government , the grand user of national interest, do so most times covertly, if found out, the Congress chew them apart

Chew them apart by doing what?

Has any American government removed due to this?

VULCAN:
Mr BMC who being a Muslim claims Christian. You have come again

One man does not determine "National Interest" in ANY developed democracy in the world. I know you have not travelled abroad but try and read about advanced countries.

Their government has to PROVE to the courts (who you and your God Buhari hate so much) that National Interest precedes a particular individuals rights and that is only Temporarily. Such cannot be done when the only reason you are holding the person is because he is an opposition member who you are attempting to rope with fabricated charges. Such is personal interest of the President and is separate from "National Interest"

No developed country in this world locks its citizens up for years with no charge like DSS does here. Perhaps one day it will be you or a family member who will be on the other end of this your stick and you will remember your evil support of such nonsense all because of some crumbs that you will have finished spending.

You're actually exposing your ignorance of this issue


All prisoners in Guatano Bay are locked up there with no trials.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/23/opinions/why-closing-guantanamo-is-essential-opinion/index.html

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Tank u boss. 4a nation 2b stable &grow it must uphold d right values.

The crucial issue is not the whether national interest supercedes individual interests. The crux of the matter is the abuse of individuals in the name of advancing national interests.

Under the guise of national interest individuals are subjected to dehumanising, degrading and undignifying treatment. I do not see how it is in the national interest to abuse an individual.

The individual counts. He too should be protected from the caprices of government.

PMB is not an historian nor political student why are u referring to judgement of 2007? A dictator!

Minjim:



In America, National Interest supersedes individual human rights

That's why Obama could order the US marine to go to another nation and execute an individual who is a threat to the nation. And subsequently dump the body in the ocean. In this case the United States acted as policeman, judge and executioner, and heaven did not fall.

We also have the issue of Guatanano Bay

Let another country like Nigeria, send its military to America, capture a citizen of America which is threat to Nigeria, kill and dump in the ocean and you will know what individual interest/right is??
America might even declare War against us cause of that single act. America is World power, cause the did something doesn't mean it can be done reciprocally against them.

GoTV:
Good. God bless buhari for this . If Buhari had followed rule of law vagabonds like Nnamdi Kanu who is hell bent on destabilising our lovely and prosperous country will still be roaming because of rule of law. People like Dasuki and Elzakyzaky will also keep perpetuating criminality under rule of law. Dictatorship is the best form of government.

check your calender it says 2018 not 1018AD are you a neo-stone ager

porka:
Buhari does not have the power to detain Nigerians in perpetuity in violation of judicial decision.

The judiciary has been vested with the power to decide what constitutes the rights of individuals in the country.

The same judiciary will play key roles in deciding his fate on numerous cases that are being lined up against him in due times.

Nobody will be in office forever.

Will you clamour for release / bail of Skeka today if he's captured today, and tomorrow a court grants him a bail since he is Constitutionally entitled to a bail?

VULCAN:
Mr BMC who being a Muslim claims Christian. You have come again

One man does not determine "National Interest" in ANY developed democracy in the world. I know you have not travelled abroad but try and read about advanced countries.

Their government has to PROVE to the courts (who you and your God Buhari hate so much) that National Interest precedes a particular individuals rights and that is only Temporarily. Such cannot be done when the only reason you are holding the person is because he is an opposition member who you are attempting to rope with fabricated charges. Such is personal interest of the President and is separate from "National Interest"

No developed country in this world locks its citizens up for years with no charge like DSS does here. Perhaps one day it will be you or a family member who will be on the other end of this your stick and you will remember your evil support of such nonsense all because of some crumbs that you will have finished spending.

Which court was Osama Bin Laden taken to before he was killed and buried below the sea? . Goggle Guantanamo bay. You Will see over 1000s in the prison without trial over 20years. Don't be conferred with your local environment.

This is given in most nation states. The problem of course is it abuse by those in power. Hitler, the Khmer Rouge, Maduro, Castro Buhari (shiite massacre) etc all used these to oppress their people

Kewtt:
Only the courts can determine what national interest that supercedes individual rights are... simple. Not Buhari!!

I guess GOTV is too daft to understand this?

Supreme court just made the whole thing clearer and straight forward unlike what we hear from PMB. Individual is different from individuals. So an individual (one person) cannot hold individuals (nation) into ransom for his selfish gain. "National interest supersedes individual right". Buhari just did that by refusing assent to the bill that will favour the nation but unfavour his autocratic rule. I think this is clearer to understand. Executive arm of government educating the judicial arm, leaving her own duties undone is what u can see buhari doin.

Afamed:

Which court was Osama Bin Laden taken to before he was killed and buried below the sea? . Goggle Guantanamo bay. You Will see over 1000s in the prison without trial over 20years. Don't be conferred with your local environment.

You mean u are referring to Osama Bin Laden, the well acclaimed terrorist throughout the world that has death warrant on him. Which interest will make u not shoot at die hard thieves or robbers u caught during robbery ?

The suspension of individual liberty on grounds of national security is for a court to decide. That's what the Supreme Court said.

They interpret laws. Courts cannot amend the Constitution. Courts cannot suspend the Constitution or any part thereof. See: the case of Attorney-General of Bendel State .v. Attorney-General of Federation & Ors. (1981) 10 SC 1 at 134 (1981) NSCC 314 However, if, in its role of interpretation, a court makes a pronouncement which may have the weight and effect of declaring a law or some part of the Constitution for that matter null and void, the court must find support from the same Constitution or any other statute of equal force. The pronouncement by the court below is that where National Security is threatened or there is the real likelihood of it being threatened human rights or the individual right of those responsible take second place. Human rights or individual rights must be suspended until the National Security can be protected or well taken care of. This is not anything new. The corporate existence of Nigeria as a united, harmonious, indivisible and indissoluble sovereign nation is certainly greater than any citizen’s liberty or right. Once the security of this nation is in jeopardy and it survives in pieces rather than in peace, the individual’s liberty or right may not even exist.

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