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Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Kenezi: 11:23pm On Jul 05, 2010
Both white and black children are protected by the government, so why is it that it's predominantly black children that are involved in criminal activites such as shooting and stabbing? Bad parenting.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Nobody: 11:37pm On Jul 05, 2010
Kenezi:

Both white and black children are protected by the government, so why is it that it's predominantly black children that are involved in criminal activites such as shooting and stabbing? Bad parenting.
Not necessarily.

Usually, new immigrants tend to spend more time trying to make money [multiple jobs] and less time attending to their child/ren. By the time the parent of the child knows it, the child has already stray.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by ojesymsym: 1:48pm On Jul 06, 2010
May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by ezeagu(m): 4:29pm On Jul 06, 2010
~Sauron~:

It seems you are high on grey pubes.
How do you sort your kids when the government has given em the powers to resist 'sorting'?
The kids are tutored as early as 5 to dial 911 when their parents subject em to any sorta discipline and you are here ranting Black people need to sort their kids out - what's your IQ if i may ask?

First of all who insulted you, and what was the need for that childish tone? Second of all, maybe you should ask the Asian and white community how they sort out their kids because it's obviously not them that are filling British newspapers with their dead children. Maybe they're putting their kids through some serious torturing because that's how you raise children isn't it? Till next time try and sort out your community instead of laying blame on a government that isn't holding you hostage in its country.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by bgees(m): 4:53pm On Jul 06, 2010
ezeagu:

First of all who insulted you, and what was the need for that childish tone? Second of all, maybe you should ask the Asian and white community how they sort out their kids because it's obviously not them that are filling British newspapers with their dead children. Maybe they're putting their kids through some serious torturing because that's how you raise children isn't it? Till next time try and sort out your community instead of laying blame on a government that isn't holding you hostage in its country.

u must have meant to type tutoring?

Yes I agree, asian kids tend to be more disciplined. Spanking should allowed. How can u not be allowed to spank your own kids?
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by formunt(m): 5:32pm On Jul 06, 2010
Killings in London has connections with drugs and girlfriends issues
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Sauron1: 6:07pm On Jul 06, 2010
ezeagu:

First of all who insulted you, and what was the need for that childish tone? Second of all, maybe you should ask the Asian and white community how they sort out their kids because it's obviously not them that are filling British newspapers with their dead children. Maybe they're putting their kids through some serious torturing because that's how you raise children isn't it? Till next time try and sort out your community instead of laying blame on a government that isn't holding you hostage in its country.

It's a social thing.
Loads of Asian kids and em Caucasian kids have been murdered too on the streets of London.
It has nothing to do with the Blacks. It's a general moral decadence.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by canuck(m): 6:34pm On Jul 06, 2010
"Black-on-black" murders do not attract the deserved attention from police authorities, at least in North America. In fact, allegations are that such crimes are barely investigated.

Is this the trend in the UK too? If yes, then expect these hideous crimes to continue until the Nigerian community in London pulls together.

Sad! cry
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Liedetect: 6:35pm On Jul 06, 2010


Sauron wrote

Most of the attackers in Victoria Station that day had Nigerian parents!!!
It's a gang thing. Nigerian kids are also involved in these knife crimes. . . . .Only an ignoramus would turn this to a racial issue.


Not true.


Read this:



The teenagers, aged 14 to17, are being questioned over the murder of Sofyen Ghailan in a running knife battle that took place in front of evening commuters at London's Victoria station on Thursday.

Schoolgirls were also reportedly part of a mob that chased the victim into the underground station ticket hall where the attack happened. The boy was cornered and then stabbed repeatedly in the chest before being left dying in a pool of blood as the gang fled.


It is understood that the girls were not among those arrested and there is no suggestion that any took part in the attack.

Detectives suspect two groups – about 15 youths from west London and 20 from north-west London – converged on the station for a planned fight.

They are believed to be of Somalian or Afro-Caribbean origin. The gangs were reported to have come to blows in the days before the murder. Police have recovered several weapons, including two knives, from the scene.

It is believed that almost all of the killing was caught on CCTV cameras. Graham Lewis, a Tube worker, said: "My colleague who witnessed it said the victim was basically set upon by a gang of young boys. Some were wearing school uniform."

Det Supt Ashley Croft, of the British Transport Police, said: "This was a reckless act of violence that has resulted in a teenager tragically losing his life."

Sofyen, who was born in London and was of north African descent, was a pupil at Henry Compton Secondary School in Fulham.

The school has a history of knife violence involving pupils. Three years ago Kodjo Yenga, a pupil at the school, died in a knife attack.

In 2004 former pupil Elliot White, then 24, helped to kill John Monckton, a banker, who was stabbed in front of his wife and daughter at his Chelsea home.

Last night tributes were paid to Sofyen, from Acton, west London, on Facebook, the social networking site.

More than 100 people joined a group called RIP Sofyen.

Det Supt Ashley Croft, of British Transport Police, who is leading the inquiry, said it was a "reckless act of violence".

Refusing to confirm which school the suspected attackers were attending, Mr Croft added: "What I am looking at is the background to all the people in custody. We have arrested 20 people and that is a positive step.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Sauron1: 6:41pm On Jul 06, 2010
Liedetect:


Not true.


Read this:



Na so una go dey carry fake news. . . . .
What do you know about the Victoria Station murder?


This is the church-going schoolgirl charged with murdering a 15-year-old boy stabbed to death in front of commuters at a busy station.

Victoria Osoteku, 18, appeared in court yesterday accused of being a member of a 13-strong gang behind the killing of Sofyen Belamouadden last week.

The other 12 charged with murder are all boys of 16 and 17 who cannot be named because of their age.

But Osoteku, who was pictured at a religious service two years ago, has no right to anonymity.

Yesterday her eyes were red with tears as she stood before magistrates in Croydon, South London.

Like her co-accused, who appeared at the Old Bailey a day earlier, she was remanded in custody while applications for bail are considered.

Osoteku, who is around 5ft 3ins, wore a tight green hooded jacket as she stood in the dock.

She looked across at a small group of weeping friends and relatives in the public gallery before being led to the cells.

The teenager, who lives in a flat in Deptford, South-East London, has revealed personal details on social networking websites, where she goes under the name B.Diverse.

Born in Britain of Nigerian descent, she describes herself as ‘a black inderpendent [sic] woman’ who ‘cares for all my brethren and family’.

Last night her mother, who also lives in South-East London, declined to comment.

Detectives are continuing to examine CCTV of the attack during rush-hour at Victoria Underground station, in Central London, last Thursday.

Sofyen, a pupil at the comprehensive Henry Compton School, in Fulham, South-West London, suffered nine stab wounds.

The worst was 5in deep, through his heart and into his spine.

Another pierced the top of his right shoulder and then his lung.

He had also been stabbed in his left leg, had a puncture wound to the top of his knee and a 3in cut to the back of his head.

The teenager, of Moroccan descent, lived with his mother in Acton, West London.

All of the accused are understood to attend school together, and are from South and South-East London
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Liedetect: 6:59pm On Jul 06, 2010
We all know about her, named because of age, how does this make a majority of the Killers of Nigerian parentage . By the way that article above is from the telegraph. Please furnish us with the names of the those Killers supposedly of Nigerian Origin.


The Nigerian girl was caught on CCTV returning to kick the body on the ground but that's all we know so far.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by ezeagu(m): 7:02pm On Jul 06, 2010
bgees:

u must have meant to type tutoring?

No I meant what I wrote, if "banning spanking" is the reason for all this violence, then the Asians must be lashing their children, no?

bgees:

Yes I agree, asian kids tend to be more disciplined.

Because of spanking?

bgees:

Spanking should allowed. How can u not be allowed to spank your own kids?

Spanking has nothing to do with any of this violence, if so then why are white kids not slaughtering themselves in the street?

~Sauron~:

It's a social thing.
Loads of Asian kids and em Caucasian kids have been murdered too on the streets of London.
It has nothing to do with the Blacks. It's a general moral decadence.

If it has nothing to do with blacks then why is there a thread on violence against Nigerian children? It has nothing to do with blacks but over 80% of these crimes involve black kids. How those that hold up?
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Sauron1: 7:03pm On Jul 06, 2010
Liedetect:

We all know about her, named because of age, how does this make a majority of the Killers of Nigerian parentage .  By the way that article above is from the telegraph. Please furnish us with the names of the those  Killers supposedly of Nigerian Origin.


The Nigerian girl was caught on CCTV returning to kick the body on the ground but that's all we know so far.


I am not in a position to print such names on a public forum but i happen to know a Barrister of one of the suspects still in the dock.
The kids are under-aged so you should not expect me or anyone else to print their names HERE.

ezeagu:

If it has nothing to do with blacks then why is there a thread on violence against Nigerian children? It has nothing to do with blacks but over 80% of these crimes involve black kids. How those that hold up?

The OP is a sensationalist - this is why he came up with a headline like Violence Against Nigerian Children.
Fact is. . . . . .it cuts across race, skin colour, sex and social strata.
The fact that only crimes involving Nigerians are reported here does not mean thousands of violent crimes are not happening to the other races.

A certain Raoul Moat has been on rampage for the past three days and he's threatened to kill as many cops as possible before he dies.
He's a white dude from Newcastle - He's no Nigerian and yet he has shot 3 people already including a cop.
White Kids are violent too. Much more violent if i may add.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Liedetect: 7:08pm On Jul 06, 2010
If true then as suggested it is even more urgent for the Nigerian community to come together to put its house in order. Very urgent
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Sauron1: 7:11pm On Jul 06, 2010
Liedetect:

If true then as suggested it is even more urgent for the Nigerian community to come together to put its house in order. Very urgent

Come together and do what?
U must think London is a village where people assemble and talk about the social ills.
I dunno the names of ma neighbours and i have been staying in this address for the past gazillion years. . . . .
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by ezeagu(m): 7:17pm On Jul 06, 2010
~Sauron~:

The OP is a sensationalist - this is why he came up with a headline like Violence Against Nigerian Children.
Fact is. . . . . .it cuts across race, skin colour, sex and social strata.
The fact that only crimes involving Nigerians are reported here does not mean thousands of violent crimes are not happening to the other races.

A certain Raoul Moat has been on rampage for the past three days and he's threatened to kill as many cops as possible before he dies.
He's a white dude from Newcastle - He's no Nigerian and yet he has shot 3 people already including a cop.
White Kids are violent too. Much more violent if i may add.

Black people are not more than 15% of London, White British people make up more than 80% of the country and what portion of crime do both groups take? This chart from a UK newspaper pretty much sums it up, there's no point hiding from the blatantly obvious truth that London's crime, specifically serious crimes like knife and gun crime and theft, are significantly contributed to by a minority, which is black.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036833/Over-half-young-knife-suspects-black-Scotland-Yard-figures-reveal.html
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Liedetect: 7:24pm On Jul 06, 2010


Sauron

Come together and do what?
U must think London is a village where people assemble and talk about the social ills.
I dunno the names of ma neighbours and i have been staying in this address for the past gazillion years. . . . .

That's why they gotta start. Its a shame there are so many Nigerians in Britain and no political clout.  They can start in churches. Encourage meetings cross tribal ones. We got to be able to organize in such a way that if a situation arises as happen once when a Nigerian woman was beaten for selection to represent Labor  by no other a person than by the then unknown Harriet Harmon simply because of Caribbean support .
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by Sauron1: 7:28pm On Jul 06, 2010
ezeagu:



The Statistics is flawed. . . . . .
It's comparing the people ACCUSED to the VICTIMS.

Why not show us the statistics of the people CONVICTED.
Of course, cops almost expect a Black male to be guilty before interrogation but how many of these ACCUSED get convicted in the end.
Re: Death Of A Nigerian Son in London, Again!! by ezeagu(m): 9:04pm On Jul 06, 2010
This topic doesn't even need to go any further, everybody knows the truth whether they want to accept it or not. When the situation gets the worst or gets personal is when people will start to scream at what the real problem is. Places in London with high crime rates, 'mysteriously' also have a high percentage of black residents. If some black people in London want to hold their ears and ignore the stats, the fact almost all of these people dyeing and killing are black, then that's their business.

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