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Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by benjibabs(m): 12:23am On Oct 10, 2018
Ehya! The dark clouds of the black Jesus movement have enveloped Reno's soul -
poor thing!

There are lots of holes in Reno’s article, but the portion below held my attention for a while. Did he even fact-check the verse ?


. . .
A lot of the spiritual and physical laws which Moses passed on to the Hebrews in
the form of the religion of Judaism were actually taught to him by his Black father-
in-law. How do I know? Because the bible says so.
Exodus 18:24 says:
“Moses listened to his father-in-law and did everything he said.”

This is by far the most misleading reference of all that Reno quoted. This verse (Exodus 18:24) only refers
to the advice Jethro gave to Moses when he was burning himself out due to
judging the Israelites singlehandedly. Please step back and read the whole of
Exodus 18 to in order to put this verse in the right context. No where was there a nention of Jethro teaching Moses anything Judaism in the chapter or even in the whole Bible.

Exodus 18:13 – 14 :13 And so it was, on the next day, that Moses sat to judge the people; and the
people stood before Moses from morning until evening. 14 So when Moses’ father-in-law saw
all that he did for the people, he said, “What is this thing that you are doing for the people?
Why do you alone sit, and all the people stand before you from morning until evening?”
17 So Moses’ father-in-law said to him, “The thing that you do is not good. 18 Both you and
these people who are with you will surely wear yourselves out. For this thing is too much for
you; you are not able to perform it by yourself. 19 Listen now to my voice; I will give you
counsel, and God will be with you: Stand before God for the people, so that you may bring
the difficulties to God. 20 And you shall teach them the statutes and the laws, and show them
the way in which they must walk and the work they must do. 21 Moreover you shall select from
all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such
over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. 22
And let them judge the people at all times. Then it will be that every great matter they shall
bring to you, but every small matter they themselves shall judge. So it will be easier for you, for
they will bear the burden with you. 23 If you do this thing, and God so commands you, then you
will be able to endure, and all this people will also go to their place in peace.” 24 So Moses heeded the voice of his father-in-law and did all that he had said. 25 And Moses
chose able men out of all Israel, and made them heads over the people: rulers of thousands,
rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. 26 So they judged the people at all times;
the hard[i] cases they brought to Moses, but they judged every small case themselves.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Davidson5(m): 8:00pm On Oct 17, 2018
But Nimrod was a curse one. Read the bible carefully, You will find out that Nimrod intelligence brought this mess of different languages all over the world today.
Haven't said that, Those who rewrite the bible have a lot to say mehn.
Something is always missing.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Ayobami7(m): 6:13pm On Nov 04, 2018
this is my comment
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by geosegun(m): 11:53am On Dec 16, 2018
There are some elements of truth here. Most knowledgeable blacks and even arabs know the truth. Slavery started with blacks (Namrud) and ended with blacks,(mostly of the Yorubas (Lamurudu) Namrud people) and hence the oracle has come full circle.

If you know who you are, no one will ever look down on You. Hence, the Yorubas are generally outstanding among all black race. The culture and language survived generations and across continents. The Oracle knowledge and applications is 2nd to none. God has had mercy on our ancestors mistakes.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Weedfree: 11:28am On Jan 19, 2019
the ijebus are from the middle east if people would have boarded to find anything about them instead of using Wikipedia that say ijebu are from ife which are not they predate the ife and oduduwa their lineage can be traced to the first awujale olu iwa that left middle east to west Africa to extend is empire owodaiye they arrived in Nigeria before the children of oduduwa their by making them the true owners of the lands
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 6:12am On Apr 20, 2019
KingSango:



In May, 2010 the Neanderthal Project was concluded which sought to find did man evolve from Ape? Well, yes and no.

1. Caucasians and Asians were found to have 3-4% Neanderthal DNA.

2. Africans in Diaspora were found to have 1% Neanderthal DNA.

3. Africans of Sub Sahara Africa were found to be 100% true man.





The Neanderthal is a hominid, that is a primate, monkey, that looks almost human because it has 90% similar DNA coding as man yet is not man. Neanderthals are said to be somewhere around 100,000 to 200,000 years old.

The Date of true man is undetermined as they keep digging and finding civilization after civilization buried under the Earth. All of them are Africans.

The mixture of man with neanderthal is said to have occurred only recently about 6000 years ago so all hybrid races are about that old.

Ancient Egyptians were Africans.

Ancient Babylonians were Africans.

Ancient Persians were Africans.

Ancient Greeks were Africans, the remote ancient Greeks not the modern.

Ancient Olmecs were Africans.

Ancient Indians were Africans.

Ancient Chinese of the Neolithic period were Africans.

Ancient Japanese including Samurai were Africans.

All the Pacific Islanders including Hawaii were Africans.

Any civilization older than couple thousand years were Africans.

The Earth was populated by true man, the African for untold millions of years.

This is not myth...this is scientific data based upon DNA which was not available in the last century. This millennium belongs to Africa.

https://www.nairaland.com/4748542/africans-sub-sahara-africa-100


If you were born here and are of African lineage you may be 100% true man and your blood traces back to God Himself.

List of Sub-Saharan African Countries
Angola
Benin
Botswana
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
Comoros
Congo (Brazzaville)
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Côte d'Ivoire
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
The Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Kenya
Lesotho
Liberia Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Niger
Nigeria
Réunion
Rwanda
Sao Tome and Principe
Senegal
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Somalia
South Africa
Sudan
Swaziland
Tanzania
Togo
Uganda
Western Sahara
Zambia
Zimbabwe



I agree with you here and would add that, to truly get understanding African history, certain conditions are to hold; one is to disregard rhetoric, hear say and all other anti-African discourse with regards to history.

Furthermore, to regard African history as genuine, If it isn’t written, deliberated-upon or judged by Africans to be correct and accurate beyond reasonable doubt, such writings that fit into these category must, for now, simply be deemed inadmissible.



The only true African history is that which is determined by African(s), by default all other versions are false.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

The discourse on Asia’s history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on Africa’s history is primarily badly concocted by European and Asian writers. That is where all of us (you and I) come in and repair the damage for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.

Majority of ‘Classical’ European deities and divinities came directly from an African divinity, in some ways, they (the foreigners) would snatch an entire concept of ‘divine’ and transplant the same concept into their communities i.e Andromeda, Hermes, Zeus e.t.c

Greeks Zeus and many other mainland African divinity that the Greeks and Romans implanted into their philosophy; even though their total disregard for intellectual property is something that will haunt them forever. Roman Apollo same type of activity occurs; same thing with the Persians.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by geosegun(m): 9:08am On Apr 20, 2019
benjibabs:



Ehya! The dark clouds of the black Jesus movement have enveloped Reno's soul -
poor thing!

There are lots of holes in Reno’s article, but the portion below held my attention for a while. Did he even fact-check the verse ?



This is by far the most misleading reference of all that Reno quoted. This verse (Exodus 18:24) only refers
to the advice Jethro gave to Moses when he was burning himself out due to
judging the Israelites singlehandedly. Please step back and read the whole of
Exodus 18 to in order to put this verse in the right context. No where was there a nention of Jethro teaching Moses anything Judaism in the chapter or even in the whole Bible.

Exodus 18:13 – 14 :13 And so it was, on the next day, that Moses sat to judge the people; and the
people stood before Moses from morning until evening. 14 So when Moses’ father-in-law saw
all that he did for the people, he said, “What is this thing that you are doing for the people?
Why do you alone sit, and all the people stand before you from morning until evening?”
17 So Moses’ father-in-law said to him, “The thing that you do is not good. 18 Both you and
these people who are with you will surely wear yourselves out. For this thing is too much for
you; you are not able to perform it by yourself. 19 Listen now to my voice; I will give you
counsel, and God will be with you: Stand before God for the people, so that you may bring
the difficulties to God. 20 And you shall teach them the statutes and the laws, and show them
the way in which they must walk and the work they must do. 21 Moreover you shall select from
all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such
over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. 22
And let them judge the people at all times. Then it will be that every great matter they shall
bring to you, but every small matter they themselves shall judge. So it will be easier for you, for
they will bear the burden with you. 23 If you do this thing, and God so commands you, then you
will be able to endure, and all this people will also go to their place in peace.” 24 So Moses heeded the voice of his father-in-law and did all that he had said. 25 And Moses
chose able men out of all Israel, and made them heads over the people: rulers of thousands,
rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. 26 So they judged the people at all times;
the hard[i] cases they brought to Moses, but they judged every small case themselves.

This is where you could have missed the point. For the fact that the bible only referenced the “judges appointment only” does not mean that there have not been other meaningful advice and discussions between them. For Moses to have listened to his father in law, means that he must have won Moses’s trust. He was definitely Moses mentor.

19 Listen now to my voice; I will give you
counsel, and God will be with you:

Moses Father in-law was a black man who believed in God... possibly before Moses
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by KingSango(m): 9:16am On Apr 20, 2019
KingSango:



In May, 2010 the Neanderthal Project was concluded which sought to find did man evolve from Ape? Well, yes and no.

1. Caucasians and Asians were found to have 3-4% Neanderthal DNA.

2. Africans in Diaspora were found to have 1% Neanderthal DNA.

3. Africans of Sub Sahara Africa were found to be 100% true man.





The Neanderthal is a hominid, that is a primate, monkey, that looks almost human because it has 90% similar DNA coding as man yet is not man. Neanderthals are said to be somewhere around 100,000 to 200,000 years old.

The Date of true man is undetermined as they keep digging and finding civilization after civilization buried under the Earth. All of them are Africans.

The mixture of man with neanderthal is said to have occurred only recently about 6000 years ago so all hybrid races are about that old.

Ancient Egyptians were Africans.

Ancient Babylonians were Africans.

Ancient Persians were Africans.

Ancient Greeks were Africans, the remote ancient Greeks not the modern.

Ancient Olmecs were Africans.

Ancient Indians were Africans.

Ancient Chinese of the Neolithic period were Africans.

Ancient Japanese including Samurai were Africans.

All the Pacific Islanders including Hawaii were Africans.

Any civilization older than couple thousand years were Africans.

The Earth was populated by true man, the African for untold millions of years.

This is not myth...this is scientific data based upon DNA which was not available in the last century. This millennium belongs to Africa.

https://www.nairaland.com/4748542/africans-sub-sahara-africa-100


If you were born here and are of African lineage you may be 100% true man and your blood traces back to God Himself.

List of Sub-Saharan African Countries
Angola
Benin
Botswana
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
Comoros
Congo (Brazzaville)
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Côte d'Ivoire
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
The Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Kenya
Lesotho
Liberia Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Niger
Nigeria
Réunion
Rwanda
Sao Tome and Principe
Senegal
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Somalia
South Africa
Sudan
Swaziland
Tanzania
Togo
Uganda
Western Sahara
Zambia
Zimbabwe




Defend from what

Truth is powerful

And indisputable

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Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 9:20am On Apr 22, 2019
All the earlier communities are said to have started in and around West Africa.

African academics are studying tirelessly to correct world history.

To perceive the truth behind world history, one has to first accept the fact that the versions they all peddle to us cannot be accurate.

Start from the beginning and work your way to the present times; a daunting preposition but very effective indeed.

Africans have the absolute right to reject the history that is peddled by Eurocentrism and Asian rhetoric, for many reasons, the obvious being that neither of their versions of history can really be trusted.

Under every law under our Sun, it’s universal, the right to be allowed to write ones’s own history without any negative or foreign influence.

You simply cannot be wrong in trying to correct the writing of your own history. Nobody can really understand African history better than an African.

African history and world history are flawlessly linked, especially when African history spans through out all the Ages experience by humans; one of a kind.

All the major significant stages in human development, thought, speech, text, art, agriculture, commerce, architecture, mathematics, philosophy, physicians, music e.t.c all started, developed, improved and mastered whilst Africans are the only people on the planet.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 9:26am On Apr 22, 2019
The true chronology of human history has it that everyone starts in Africa and later migrate to all the four corners of the globe.

Africans are the first people to arrive in the Americas populate and build communities.

Africans are the first people to arrive in Asia populate and build communities.

Africans are the first people to arrive in Australasia populate and build communities.

Africans are the first people to arrive in Europe populate and build communities.

Africans are the first ever Eskimos

Conclusion, every single ethnic group on our planet are a product of the first generation of humans; the first generation of humans are Africans.

Any other theory or hypothesis in living memory does not stand up to these simple truth.
Re: Ijebu, The Yoruba & Their Influence On The Bible & Judaism- Reno Omokri by wealthtrak: 6:01pm On Sep 23, 2021
brainhgeek:


@immhotep, I stated very clearly that my claims (just like Reno's claims) are mere assumptions and theories and not facts. They only hold out to substantial evidences from naked history which is accessible to all who care to know the truth.
Yorubas don't make noise about it because no one can say it is a fact yet. In fact, many believe that the queen of Sheba came to Nigeria, died in Ijebu ode and was buried there but because there is not substantial fact to prove this, no one is holding on to that as a fact. http://www.informationng.com/2015/06/confirmed-biblical-queen-sheba-died-and-buried-in-nigeria-photos.html .My friend, Yorubas are not into self deceit. They are indeed omoluabi and deep thinkers.
The ibos on the other side are yet to come up with a substantial evidence on their self acclaimed connection with Israel. One fact however in this whole argument is that ibos have no genetic connection to Israel. DNA test proved this last year during Kanu's saga.
maybe you should read this news to get the shock you did not expect if you have not read it before or have but still refusing to wake up
https://forward.com/fast-forward/379533/igbo-men-have-no-known-jewish-dna-controversial-test-shows/

Jonathan Bernis, an Israeli and a Rabbi, in company of three of his compatriots said none of the 124 specimens taken from Nigeria matched the samples in the Houston laboratory which is as old as 17 years in DNA business. Jonathan Bernice said and i quote “Our purpose for providing this DNA testing… was to assist them in their pursuit of truth concerning their historical lineage and identity,” Jonathan Bernis, head of Jewish Voice Ministries International, wrote in an email to the Forward. The DNA test results “did not support their claim to be descendants of the ancient people of Israel… [but] we consider them our brothers through our common faith in the Messiah Yeshua.”


I was in Israel once and I know what a typical Israeli look like, my doubt over all these claims is that 'how much have we (Ibos or Yorubas) evolved over a long time to have diluted our gene pool so much that we have lost total DNA relationship with our alleged Israeli root?' History and cultural evidences are not enough. DNA test will lay all doubts to rest.
Lastly, God will not punish you for not being an Israeli or bless you for being one. My pilgrimage made me understand that a lot of aged Israelites are in wheel chairs. Being an Israeli is not a sure bet to blessing from God. Your identity in Christ is

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