The PDP just expelled the guber candidate on the party's platform in Imo state and declared that the PDP does not have a guber candidate for the weekend election.

Considering the fact that PDP would have easily won the guber race in Imo state and yet decided not to field a candidate (a serving senator) does it then mean that the PDP is not power hungry or is this a strategy to make sure the man never gets to the state house?

evidence please?

I think they will try to get in through the back door - win the assembly elections, impeach whoever takes the office and call for a new election. PDP simply relinquishing the slot is very suspicious, I hope they wont reduce the case of Imo to another Anambra.

I don't doubt it because they threatened to do that last week.

But the messeage should be clear to PDP, that Imo State will rather burn down than put up with the sort of politics played in Anambra.

The Casino mentality is unacceptable.

hmm

do they hate that man that bad

This country na wa ya ya ya ya.

The PDP has shown real character, and by this action, demonstrated they are not a desperate party afterall. Ararume would certainly have won the elections for the pdp, and he has always been amongst the staunchest supporters of OBJ in the senate (perhaps second only to the likes of Mantu).

That OBJ has considered his thuggish 'qualities' as a baggage is a positive development. I also suspect that the security report on Ararume was unfavourable to say the least. He may very well have a case to answer with the EFCC after his tenure.

I disagree - it shows the height of the undemocratic nature of the PDP - they'd rather lose the elections than allow the man who legitimately won the primaries contest. if ugwuh, a man who came 4th in the primaries was allowed to stand (due to his 3rd term support for Obj and other favors) they would not have pulled out. Instead of respecting the court judgement and allowing its legitimate candidate to run, they decided to 'expel' him, a decision I'm sure he will contest in court as well.

Sometimes, these extraneous influences are required to correct undesirable political outcomes. The constitution of the pdp is clear, and it is certainly acting within it's powers.

And how are you drawing the conclusion that 3rd term influenced the choice of Agwu? Ararume was a bigger supporter of 3rd term than anyone I know in the senate. He has blindly sided with OBJ in the fallout with Atiku. So what's the point?

It is obvious that OBJ and the pdp are uncomfortable with the security report on Ararume. Watch out. Like I said earlier, he is likely to be a guest of the EFCC come May. He is widly believed to be a violent and unscrupulous operator.

Ugwu, though not a saint, compares much more favourably. Our political system needs to dispense with the likes of Ararume, Nzeribe etc,

oshkosh:

The PDP has shown real character, and by this action, demonstrated they are not a desperate party afterall. Ararume would certainly have won the elections for the pdp, and he has always been amongst the staunchest supporters of OBJ in the senate (perhaps second only to the likes of Mantu).

That OBJ has considered his thuggish 'qualities' as a baggage is a positive development. I also suspect that the security report on Ararume was unfavourable to say the least. He may very well have a case to answer with the EFCC after his tenure.

Sorry my broda, you missed it.

It just showed that is only those that PDP want that will be there. Ararume won the PDP primaries in Imo state, he was replace by Charles Ugwuh the former MAN president who was in fore front supporting OBJ third term agenda, though Ararume supported too. This is just to tell you what is happening in this country. Is either you agree to what they say or you loose. You can remember Ghali Umar Narba. He lost to ANPP in 2003 just because OBJ don't want him back to House of Rep. If Yardua disobey OBJ now, he don't mind expelling him from PDP and declare that they won't contest the presidential election and going to form alliance with Pat Utomi.
If PDP is a party that obeys the rule of law, they would have accepted the verdict of supreme court. But as you can see, they have started their do or die affair.

oshkosh:

Sometimes, these extraneous influences are required to correct undesirable political outcomes. The constitution of the pdp is clear, and it is certainly acting within it's powers.

And how are you drawing the conclusion that 3rd term influenced the choice of Agwu? Ararume was a bigger supporter of 3rd term than anyone I know in the senate. He has blindly sided with OBJ in the fallout with Atiku. So what's the point?

It is obvious that OBJ and the pdp are uncomfortable with the security report on Ararume. Watch out. Like I said earlier, he is likely to be a guest of the EFCC come May. He is widly believed to be a violent and unscrupulous operator.

Ugwu, though not a saint, compares much more favourably. Our political system needs to dispense with the likes of Ararume, Nzeribe etc,

I will not be surprised if EFCC arrest him before saturday election. That is PDP & OBJ for you. What of Ondo state where he said that EFCC will investigate Mimiko because he joined Labour Party instead of support Agagu or so.

There is nothing like security report. What of the EFCC report on Peter Odili, how far? They said is because of the EFCC report that made them to use Goodluck as VP instead of Odili. Where is Odili now?
We know all these things, is just that there is nothing we can do. The election will be rigged. what can I do to stop it. If I vote, will I follow them to INEC office, will I escort the result to Abuja. Will I be at Adedibu house in Ibadan to see what is happening inside. INEC commissioner visited Tony Anineh. Will I be in his house to know how they manipulate result there.
Let us just pray that God will give us a leader.

@Debosky

Please don't reduce this argument to pro or anti third term as Ararume himself was a front line supporter of third term. I don't understand how long people will keep refering to third term.

People should stop trivialising the real issues in the name of third term debate.

McKren:

@Debosky

Please don't reduce this argument to pro or anti third term as Ararume himself was a front line supporter of third term. I don't understand how long people will keep refering to third term.

I don't understand either. The reference to the failure of third term as the cause of every spit is regretable. I can't wait for may 29th to come and go.

Back to the dismissal of ararume, I respect pdp for this singular resolve. I wept for my dear state when he won at the SC. He is a thug at best, who should be in Ariara market and not the government house of Imo. Pdp Una well done!

i was glad that after 8 yrs in office, all OBJ could achieve was to stop people like Atiku and IBB from becoming president. now he has gone further by visiting my home state to stop Ararume, a violent rogue, from being governor. i'm happy. even though he is from my local govt, he is not worthy of govt house owerri. hoha.

@ McKren - I am not trivialising issues, I was simply conjecturing as to what was the source of this hell bent mind-set of pdp saying 'ugwuh or no one else'. the man (Ararume) won the pdp organised primaries fair and square, went to court and got his rights upheld. that doesn't really sound like an 'area boy' or all the other names given to the guy here. Why would they go to the extent o saying they have no candidate and 'expel' a party man just like that? Is smacks of the same tactics employed in Anambara - Ngige was also expelled like that, and fought in court till it was rescinded, the process of expulsion from the PDP is not overnight, and they cannot just wake up at the last minute and withdraw from a race just like that, at least I don't think the INEC rules allow that.

Whether or not Ararume was a thug or not, since he was allowed to contest the primaries and win, why wait till now before trying to carry out illegalities? Or did he suddenly turn into a thug overnight? what about the people that voted him in at the primaries? Why didn't PDP stop him before?

We all know the vindictive/selfish nature of Nigerian politics - I feel the man has stepped on some important toes in PDP for this to happen to him, not out of any altruistic (PDP posesses no such quality) motive from the PDP.

The only advantage I can see is to APGA, who might just win the state now and keep one state since Obi has been technically rigged out of Anambra.

What kind of party is PDP that stifles dissenting opinion? It does not want short changed members to seek redress in court. PDP does not want Ararume and it does not want to obey Supreme Court orders. In PDP, everything is a family affair; even looting state treasury.

You guys are dreaming if you believe election would not be rigged!!

OBJ is dangerous man.

What PDP should have done is accept the supreme court and they all support this guys as their PDP candidate.

Now they want to spoil it for him. It is all or nothing!! Thats evil

Afam:


It Appears The PDP Is Not Power Hungry Afteral!
The PDP just expelled the guber candidate on the party's platform in Imo state and declared that the PDP does not have a guber candidate for the weekend election.

I totally disagree that they are not power hungry, it rather shows that the PDP is not a political party for the people, but a machinary for a few heartless individuals who like Napoleon must be "always right" and thus manipulate and control the entire populace.  In 2003, the PDP sacrificed Kano state just to make sure that Naaba was stopped.  I am very suprised that the democratic and integelligent Afam will descend so low as to support anarchy.  Where is the place of Imo State members of the PDP who voted for the Ararume of a guy? So please, I need eductaion here, who is the PDP?  The few monsters in Abuja or the entire populace that make up the membership?  The Imo state PDP chose Ararume as their candidate, but the few men in Abuja said no!  And when I say that we are not allowed to choose our leaders, its as if I am making noise for nothing.  This has nothing to do with the EFFC report of whatever nonsense.  Nonsense? Yes, because the same EFFC also indicted Goodluck Jonathan whom the same PDP is celebrating.  Beisdes, if the people choose Ararume, it is their own cup of tea.  Has any court indicted Ararume? OBJ should allow the people to choose their leaders and anything apart from that is not democracy.  This is internal colonistaion and it is a shame.  

Afam:

Considering the fact that PDP would have easily won the guber race in Imo state and yet decided not to field a candidate (a serving senator) does it then mean that the PDP is not power hungry or is this a strategy to make sure the man never gets to the state house?

What fact are you talking about? Where did you get your fact from? I think it is rather your personal opinion which shows your sentiment for the PDP which you will always deny.

As for me, I dont hide my sentiment against the PDP and OBJ if not for anything, for the destruction they caused in my Anambra State. They are still bent on imposing AndY Uba on us through the INEC (which is like a youth wing of the PDP).  

Imo people, its an opportunity to vote out the PDP. I wish it were Anambra.

Please get it straight, I like the fact that the wish of imposing Ugwu did not prevail but lets be objective here. PDP did not disobey supreme court order, because they did not go on to ask INEC to recognise Ugwu instead of Ararume. Supreme court rule that ararume won the election, but what they can not do is to compell the PDP to take part in elections if they dont wish to.
So they purseued their wish within the confines of the law, lets be clear about this so that no one begins to take the law in their own hands.

@McKren,

See, this whole thing is crazy! Candidates are usually screened before the primaries. Were they not screened this time around? If they were not, why? If they were, then somebody somewhere is serioulsy sick in head and might require the services of a head shrinker. PDP doesnt mean well for this country, the cabal is just saying "we cannot accept defeat, no boddy can defy us"

I dont know what happened between them and the Ararume of guy, but inisting that everybody in the party must say "yes sir" to the decision of a few (who knows, may just be one mans idea) makes nonsense of the so called democracy.

Netvertheless, as the PDP have voluntarily lost in Imo state, may they also loose in Anambra. Amen.

@noblezone,

noblezone:

I totally disagree that they are not power hungry, it rather shows that the PDP is not a political party for the people, but a machinary for a few heartless individuals who like Napoleon must be "always right" and thus manipulate and control the entire populace. In 2003, the PDP sacrificed Kano state just to make sure that Naaba was stopped. I am very suprised that the democratic and integelligent Afam will descend so low as to support anarchy. Where is the place of Imo State members of the PDP who voted for the Ararume of a guy? So please, I need eductaion here, who is the PDP? The few monsters in Abuja or the entire populace that make up the membership? The Imo state PDP chose Ararume as their candidate, but the few men in Abuja said no! And when I say that we are not allowed to choose our leaders, its as if I am making noise for nothing. This has nothing to do with the EFFC report of whatever nonsense. Nonsense? Yes, because the same EFFC also indicted Goodluck Jonathan whom the same PDP is celebrating. Beisdes, if the people choose Ararume, it is their own cup of tea. Has any court indicted Ararume? OBJ should allow the people to choose their leaders and anything apart from that is not democracy. This is internal colonistaion and it is a shame.

What fact are you talking about? Where did you get your fact from? I think it is rather your personal opinion which shows your sentiment for the PDP which you will always deny.

As for me, I don't hide my sentiment against the PDP and OBJ if not for anything, for the destruction they caused in my Anambra State. They are still bent on imposing AndY Uba on us through the INEC (which is like a youth wing of the PDP).

Imo people, its an opportunity to vote out the PDP. I wish it were Anambra.

I don't know if you noticed that you are the only one that reduced the thread to personal issues here.

I will respond to comments when you learn to focus on issues rather than personalities.

Anambra is burning because of people like you that refuse to call a spade a spade but would rather blame OBJ for everything that happens in Anambra.

Even on this thread some people from the same local government area with Ararume are happy that such a person is being stopped and you are hear offering the same type of advice that you offered on Anambra.

But common sense shoiws that when a party is willing to give up a state for what ever reasons it means that such a party does not want power at all cost and that the party is more than confident of its structures on ground.

@ Afam - I believe the action still smacks of authoritarian bullying, a streak of the PDP that the 'almighty' party cannot be defied
though if he is the kind of man being described here, then all the better for the Imo people, enough rascals and touts have been in power already, one less is a welcome development.

If the 'reasons' given by the PDP of EFCC and SSS reports are true, why has the man not been 'indicted' like all the other folk? Why is it now that all this is coming out? At least in Rotimi Amaechi from Rivers' case, we all knew he was in cahoots with Odili in looting the treasury, why is this case different? PDP is desperate for power, however they calculate that rather than have another Ngige on their hands that will not toe their line of looting the treasury, they intend to wait a while, let another person get elected, then either convince him/her to 'decamp' to PDP so they can start 'chopping' like the way they tried to convince Obi, or try to impeach him and get another election conducted.

I see no altruistic motive in this, they just would rather have a subservient lap-dog than someone who wouldn't submit to their demands. in absence of that, they'll delay gratification for now, till they can get in through the backdoor.

@debosky,

PDP is a political party out of many and I am one of those that believe they can do whatever they want to do as regards party politics, any politician that is unhappy should look for another political party, simple.

Why do politicians want to be part of PDP? Because it is a strong party. If you offer Atiku or Buhari the presidential candidacy of the PDP today they will gladly dump AC and ANPP respectively.

Bullying? Yes, but don't they have a right to conduct its business they way they want to?

What Nigerians can do is vote them in or vote them out. Party politics remain party politics, conform or get out of the party.

@ Afam

Anambra is burning because of people like you that refuse to call a spade a spade but would rather blame OBJ for everything that happens in Anambra.

I beg to differ, why is it that Anambra palaver has nothing to do with OBJ? You have always insisted that OBJ has nothing to with Anambra problems. I am ready to listen to your conspiracy theories on Anambra. Go ahead and lay the facts before us.

Senate president said " Where did INEC get Ararume's name from, Newspaper or where? Who sent Ararume's name to INEC?"

Is after conducting 2 primaries that they know that Ararume has a damming security report. What happend to the person that came second where Ugwuh who came 4th?

OBJ want to pick the president and all the governors.

Afam:



PDP is a political party out of many and I am one of those that believe they can do whatever they want to do as regards party politics, any politician that is unhappy should look for another political party, simple.


Bullying? Yes, but don't they have a right to conduct its business they way they want to?

@Afam
That is why we will never develop.

I weep for Nigeria. That why OBJ is doing everything possible to stop opposition. He has declared 2 days. For what. We don't need it. What will I be doing in my house for 2 days because of election. HE JUST DECLARED IT TO FRUSTRATE ANY JUDICIAL PRONOUNCEMENT THAT WILL FORCE INEC TO ALLOW SOME CANDIDATE TO CONTEST THE ELECTION.
Why public holiday for goodness sake. Has it been done before.

toshmann:

i was glad that after 8 years in office, all OBJ could achieve was to stop people like Atiku and IBB from becoming president. now he has gone further by visiting my home state to stop Ararume, a violent rogue, from being governor. i'm happy. even though he is from my local govt, he is not worthy of govt house owerri. hoha.

Ararume is a voilent rogue. For 8yrs he has been a senator and you don't know he is a rogue. He bought PDP nomination form, you don't know he is a rouge. He on the election, you don't know he is a rouge. his know was submitted to INEC you don't know he is a rouge. Then you substitute his name, now he is a rouge.

PDP robbed him his victory. WHO IS NOW A ROUGE?

Afam:

@noblezone,
I don't know if you noticed that you are the only one that reduced the thread to personal issues here.

I will respond to comments when you learn to focus on issues rather than personalities.

I doubt if you really read my post as to conclude that I "reduced" the issue to "personal", but I won't be suprised if you did but chose to ignore the obviuos issues I raised. Yet, the truth is that you always deny your non-partisanship and how you dont go by sentiment, I only pointed out to you that by your approach to this issue, that you are sentimental  like every other human being.

Afam:

@noblezone,
Anambra is burning because of people like you that refuse to call a spade a spade but would rather blame OBJ for everything that happens in Anambra.

The only "spade" remaining for us in Anambra State is to carry guns and fight the Federal Govt led by Obasanjo. It was not hudlooms that kidnapped Ngige, it was the Nigerian Police Force.  The people that burnt down our state were protected by the police and the Police also participted.  The self acclaimed enemy of Anambra State in the person of Chris Uba is under the heavy protection of the Federal Govt. The worst and the strongest opposition to Ngige ( a performer) was from the Federal govt. The federal might which would had been used to protect the innocent citizens of Anambra state was used to protect and fortify our social misfits. This federal govt is led by no other person than Obasanjo.

But we are law abiding and will not carry arms agaisnt them or what other spade are you talking about?

Afam:

@noblezone,

Even on this thread some people from the same local government area with Ararume are happy that such a person is being stopped and you are hear offering the same type of advice that you offered on Anambra.

I hope you will also observe that you are sentimental in this as you have reduced the whole thing to the person of Ararume?  In Anambra, my position was on the person of Chris Ngige (may God bring him back) but on this, I am neither for nor against Ararume as I dont know him.  The issue here is that the guy is a victim of power play between internal colonial masters (who want to control an Igbo land from Abuja or even from Otta farm) on one hand and the people of Imo state on the other. I am not the only one asking questions, many people are worried about this mockery of democracy. If the guy is guilty of anything, then why was he cleared in the first place to contest?  Besides, if the people of Imo state voted for him, then it is the peoples palava or is democracy not about majority?

The guy from the same local govt with Ararume is entitled to his opinion and he must have his reasons which I wont argue with him. Yet, he is being sentimental. Where was he when Ararume was campaigning? They would had countered the guys claims and vote him out! Yet, the guy should not celebrate yet, as the Ararume is only one man and cannot do much.  The evil empire called the PDP is power hungry and is on the loose. Except if APGA has learnt their lessons, their experience in Anambra will be a childs paly to what the PDP will do to them in Imo State.

Ararumes brother is just operating on sentiment, so why is it a problem to you that I am sentimental about Uba and Ngige since they are my brothers? After all we are from the same state or is it local govt thing? You make laugh.

Afam:

@noblezone,

But common sense shoiws that when a party is willing to give up a state for what ever reasons it means that such a party does not want power at all cost and that the party is more than confident of its structures on ground.

The truth is that your sentiment will not allow to see the handwriting on the wall. The PDP has choosen to support the APGA candidate in Imo state and naturally, he will "win".  The problem will be that almost all the house of Assembly members will be of the PDP.  Remember the APGA/Obi experience in Anambra?  Remember that we knew that the handing over of Anambra to APGA was a greek gift?  That handing over has destroyed APGA, for the PDP only wanted Ngige out at all cost and APGA/Obi was the key when every other thing had failed.

The PDP wants Ararume out at all cost, and I can tell you that with the likes of Adedibu, Chris Uba, Goodluck Jonathan, Andy Uba and the host of others still moving free, it has nothing to do with EFCC or any of such nonsense.

@adcoline

Please help me ask Afam!!

@debosky

Afam might not answer your qeustions!

@saitchux,

help me to ask them o!!!

Cheers to all.

Well, cheers to all. We are watching.

Afam- it is so disappointing to hear people like you talk about the politics of Nigeria. i want you to know that in no distant time with the manner in which OBJ is bullying everybody,this country will become another sudan

PDP not running for fielding guber candidates in Imo and Rivers States, have nothing to do with not craving power, it has everything to do with vindictive childishness.
The Yoruba will say, "kaka ki eku ma je sese, a fi se awadanu" for the rat not to partake of the bounty, he would rather waste everything, making sure no one gets any part of it.

Where does this translate to no being power hungry? The truth is Obasanjo and his clique are very dangerous people. If they are not in power, they will make sure no one (at least someone in clear opposition) gets it fair or not. This sets a dangerous prescedent and a clear sign of how low these greedy and selfish people will go.
This is also a clear omen that these people can plunge Nigeria into civil war to satisfy selfish and maniacal egos.

When I first read that the supreme court had stopped pdp from substituting the name of Ararume, my reaction was "Oh God! why are you doing this to us". Ararume is not fit to be a governor. Not in my state. Anybody but Ararume. He is a thug extraordinaire, a nobody who wasted his time and that of his constituency in the senate.

All you guys fronting for him now, what did he do as a senator other than praising OBJ and insisting on invincibility of pdp? Why all the love you are now showing for him? Is he not one of the pdp "rogues" you have been threatening to vote out? I can see your problem is not with individuals in pdp. It is with the name PDP.

azorjiu:


All you guys fronting for him now, what did he do as a senator other than praising OBJ and insisting on invincibility of pdp? Why all the love you are now showing for him? Is he not one of the pdp "rogues" you have been threatening to vote out? I can see your problem is not with individuals in pdp. It is with the name PDP.

You got it wrong sir: I don't give a damn about Ararume or Rotimi Amanaechi. It could have been Lagbaja or Tamedu, and my argument would have been the same. What is wrong is wrong! and we must always strive to be on the side of rigyteousness.
The fact is the PDP did what they did to circumvent the Supreme court's decision to spite a ccandidate whom they know they are incapable of controlling. This very undemocratic, wrong, vindictive and not about Ararume in the least.

Ararume might be a thug, who is not? Obasanjo, Kalu, Uba, Ali, Ojo Madueke, the list is unending. what we will have problem singling out of our bunch of politicians, is Who is above board, with clean hands?