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Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Gamine(f): 9:19pm On Sep 16, 2010
ezeagu:

Why don't you remove the link then?

What are you trying to say?
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(m): 9:26pm On Sep 16, 2010
Gamine:

What are you trying to say?




That if you think your post is dumb you should remove it.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Gamine(f): 9:33pm On Sep 16, 2010
ezeagu:

That if you think your post is dumb you should remove it.

You are in my thoughts now,
Well if you are threatened by opinions, you better stick to your fabrications.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Abagworo(m): 11:03pm On Sep 16, 2010
What I noticed was that same nairaland jealousy and pull them down syndrome against Igbos.An Igbo commented about nsibidi being used by pre-colonial Igbos and many people were quick to attack him.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ChinenyeN(m): 11:26pm On Sep 16, 2010
Abagworo:

What I noticed was that same nairaland jealousy and pull them down syndrome against Igbos.An Igbo commented about nsibidi being used by pre-colonial Igbos and many people were quick to attack him.
Where was this?
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Gamine(f): 11:41pm On Sep 16, 2010
@Abagworo
^^^^Is it possible to have a discussion/debate without thinking people
are after you because you are of a certain tribe.

ChinenyeN:

Where was this?

I posted a link to a blog where there was a discussion on Nigerian Languages
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(m): 9:51pm On Sep 17, 2010
Some of the information about Nigeria from ethnologue:

Federal Republic of Nigeria. 141,356,000. National or official languages: Edo, Efik, Adamawa Fulfulde, Hausa, Idoma, Igbo, Central Kanuri, Yoruba, English. Literacy rate: 42%–51%. Immigrant languages: American Sign Language, Bagirmi, Klao, Mbay, Mpade, Ngambay, Pana. Also includes languages of Lebanon, and Europe. Information mainly from J. Bendor-Samuel and Hartell 1989; R. Blench 1992, 2003, 1998–2004; B. Connell 1994, 2002; D. Crozier and R. Blench 1992; K. Hansford, J. Bendor-Samuel, and R. Stanford 1976; U. Siebert 1998–2002. Blind population: 800,000 (1982 WCE). Deaf institutions: 22. The number of individual languages listed for Nigeria is 527. Of those, 514 are living languages, 2 are second languages without mother-tongue speakers, and 11 have no known speakers.

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=ng

I wonder why Ijaw wasn't added as a recognised language, maybe the information isn't complete, yet Kanuri is there. Their count for Nigerian languages is 516.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by agbotaen: 4:12pm On Sep 18, 2013
1. ika is a distinct ethnic group , and as such is as bonafide as igbo or bini, although our language has come under heavy influence of both bini and igbo , the ika language is a mix of many dialects, and if ika is correctly spoken , there is no way , it can be clearly understood by an igbo man , and it is neither standard bini or igbo. our culture seperates us as a distinct ethnicity , and in 1930 , our elders made that known to the british , and i dont know why igbos are mounting a propaganda for ika to be igbo, whether the british or igbo propagandists classified ika as igboid , ika wish and will always remain seperate as ika ethnic group, even the bini claimed ika in 1930 , and it failed , igbos claimed ika in 1967 , it also failed , and today ika do not associate or attend any igbo ethnic group meetings , but ika has ogua/onu ika as the umbrella body for ika ethnic group .
2. due to the influence of both edo and igbo on ika ethnic group, ikas bear both edo and igbo names , but the surname or family names of most ikas are bini/edo names , and most of our towns and villages still bear edo names.
3. initially according to tradition the bini/ishans were the first migrants into ika and they spoke bini/ishan , but later igbos also migrated there , and other ethnic groups too , and so later they spoke both bini and igbo , but as time went on the languages of igbo and bini was mixed to form ika language , and even up till date there is still an edoid language spoken by some towns in agbor kingdom called ozara,
4. the bini had long recognised the eka people as being a seperate entity although having ancestral links with them , but at the turn of the 19th century , the british missionaries introduced education and christianity using igbo teachers and missionaries , so many things were distorted in ika land , but later ikas had to reassert themselves as ika ethnic nation .
5. our language is our pride and the ika language is definitely a unique language of its own , and we are a tribe of our own , ishan and bini have great similarity in language yet , they are a seperate tribe , itsekiri shares many things with both yoruba and bini , yet its a seperate tribe , isoko and uhrobo are very similar , yet seperate tribe , so the ika is a seperate tribe , despite some similarities with both bini and igbo

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Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Deadlytruth(m): 2:41pm On Mar 21, 2016
chyz:


Im talking about Akoko Edo. There are people there called the Igarras, they are close proximity to the yorubas. They are a small tribe that most likely be consumed by the yoruba. The speak yoruba, name their children yoruba names, even the culture is so interwined with yoruba. Alot of them are of yoruba stock apart from the Igarra tribe. I know people who are Igarra.Go to a Igarra house hold during a gathering and u will hear nothing but yoruba being spoken with a few igarra words here and there.

I doubt if you ever really visited Igarra. Igarra has no link with Yoruba. You can also hear Hausa and Igbo being spoken there. In Igarra people even bear Hausa derived names like Damisa, Daudu, Daniya, Saiki, Mayaki, etc. Some bear Benin derived names like Aido, Uduoza, Lawani, etc. Does that mean they are also both Hausas and Binis simultaneously? If you judge Igarra Identity by names you hear there you'll make terrible mistakes. Igarrans just love to bear names from other lands. However there are concerted efforts now to halt that trend as it has caused them a lot of identity crises. Igarrans are Igarrans and neither Yorubas, nor Hausa nor Igbos.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by tpiar: 4:31pm On Mar 21, 2016
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by tpiar: 4:34pm On Mar 21, 2016
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Deadlytruth(m): 5:47pm On Mar 21, 2016
tpiar:
http://www.afenmaiconnect.com/the-history-of-igarra-people/


There is a little error in that account. Supplied by that link.
Igarra people are a line of Oshuku migrants from Kwararafa Kingdom. The Oshuku people were led out of Kwarafafa Kingdom by a man called Ohemi (Ohimi and Oshemi being the variant pronounciations). Ohimi had four sons named Ozoko, Itaazi, Negedu and Oduniya in descending order of seniority.

Ohemi stopped over and sojourned. in Opoto (Igala) land where he died. His sons migrated off Opoto land as follows:
Negedu moved with his supporters (not necessarily descendants) to form a kingdom in Panda in present Toto LGA of Nassarawa State which he ruled with the title of Ohemi as King, and his dynasty still maintains the Ohemi-Negedu title till today. Oduniya went with his supporters to establish a kingdom in Koton Karfi in present day Kogi state where he too ruled as a king titled Ohemi-Oduniya and his dynasty too has maintained that title till today. The two eldest, Ozoko and Itaazi moved further down south and circumstances dictated that Itaazi settled at Okene as his wife gave birth at that point of the journey. He too assumed kingship over Okene as Ohemi. The eldest, Ohemi-Ozoko moved further down South with his supporters and settled in Igarra and ruled as Oshemi (one of the variant pronunciations of Ohemi). His title was Oshemi-Ozoko the Oshinoyi (Igarra word for King) of Igarra. Unfortunately, however, his dynasty lasted for about 150 years and crumbled due to complex developments in his palace. It was at that point in history that the Nupe slave raiders arrived Afemai areas which included Igarra, Auchi, Ososo, etc. The modus operandi of the Nupes was to buy slaves by negotiating with the traditional ruler of any town or village they arrived for trade. Where no organized traditional leadership system existed they chose the smartest and fastest learner of the nupe language as the village representatives that would serve as a language bridge between them and the locals. In Igarra, where Oshemi dynasty had crumbled they had to identify the smartest learner and it fell on one very smart one of the numerous Otarus who were merely fetish priests while Oshemi's dynasty lasted. This Otaru became the go between and of course as well became the most exposed man in the village that headship of the village was willingly surrendered to him pending when the Oshemi's descendants would put their house back in order and re-establish the Oshemi dynasty. This was however not to be as they could not get that done before the European explorers arrived Igarra in 1911. The Europeans penned down the default leadership structure they met on ground which presented that very Otaru as the foremost man in the village. They documented it that Otaru was the Village head without the real authority over the people. There was no one really educated enough or learned in English Language at that time to be able to realize and correct that error of documentation made by the white man. This was how Otaru became known as the Igarra village head.
As people became more and more lettered owing to proliferation of schools, the error was discovered and attempts started being made to correct it by the Oshemi's clan and its supporter clans while the clans of the Otarus have always resisted it. The issue has taken the forms of legal battles, open violence-though now discouraged by both sides, and sometimes dialogue.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by tpiar: 8:27pm On Mar 21, 2016
^^ok
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by YourNemesis: 11:32pm On Mar 21, 2016
The people of igarra town are related to the Ebiras, and are the only odd ones out in Akoko Edo.
Re: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by Deadlytruth(m): 4:53am On Mar 22, 2016
YourNemesis:
The people of igarra town are related to the Ebiras, and are the only odd ones out in Akoko Edo.

Some towns and villages in Akoko-Edo don't belong to any of the three major classifications of Igarra, Okpameri and Uneme. Examples are Ososo, Okpe, Akuku, etc. So Igarra is not alone on that. Moreover, Igarra people settled in just a single location unlike the others like the Unemes that splintered into different pockets of settlements interspersed between the other groups. Had Igarra people splintered like that they too would have been laying claim to having related villages within Akoko-Edo.

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