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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Urchman200: 7:07am On Apr 09, 2019
One thing this government is enjoying is pdp 16years mismanagement, so they can do anything we will still believe pdp caused it,they all should know that leadership is transient.

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by chozzy: 7:09am On Apr 09, 2019
Larryallovernig:
And we didn't see what they used the money for.
I'm tired of this country even people that are working still suffering.

Bad leaders

We masses had to do something fast in this country

I tell you
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Nobody: 7:13am On Apr 09, 2019
JayGraphics:
Why didn't the PDP lead Senate sign the budget and hold a Nation ransom all through 2018.


So that you lot can label them enemy of the state because Mr Fake woke integrity is your president ?
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by patikh123(m): 7:17am On Apr 09, 2019
[quote author=gentlegenius post=77384015]Buhari's 2nd term hasn't even started, and we are already reaping what we sowed at the polls.
We haven't even seen the #nextleveldebt

Bros u were d only one who votted for him dont include us and mind u it is still too early to complain bcs dis is just d beginning.. hahahahahahah
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by patikh123(m): 7:22am On Apr 09, 2019
Bros u were d only one who votted for him dont include us and mind u it is still too early to complain bcs dis is just d beginning.. hahahahahahah
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Whyem15: 7:37am On Apr 09, 2019
Let's all remember that Okonjo Iweala paid all Nigeria's debt during Obasanjo's time, at a time when revenue from oil was three times the present value. What did PDP use the #12 trillion naira for after Obasanjo's second term?
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by tomtos88(m): 7:43am On Apr 09, 2019
Larryallovernig:
And we didn't see what they used the money for.
I'm tired of this country even people that are working still suffering.

Bad leaders

We masses had to do something fast in this country

People that are busy, queuing behind rice and garri?
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by sonature1: 7:44am On Apr 09, 2019
Esseite:
Stupidity is when you are in debt of $65bn (N24tr) but jubiliate over $40bn in the reserve...

What are you reserving?

It may not make sense to you, but it makes economic sense.
You see, countries keep a lot of savings, regardless of their debt, to attract foreign direct investors (FDI) to their country.

In Economics, the logic is that any country with a huge external reserve is a fertile ground for doing business because they wouldn't tax investors unnecessarily.

Take it to individual businesses, Dangote and co are owning banks huge sums of money, they are repaying the debt and servicing it as well. However, he can comfortably approach any bank, despite that he's owing many banks already, and ask for loans and they will give him.

Why? That's because his net worth is huge...meaning that if he fails to repay the loan, there are many things that he owns which the bank can sell to recover their money.

However, during the tenure of former CBN governor Sanusi, he now discovered that many banks were even giving him loans without collateral, which didn't make business sense. He now started firing the CEOs of such banks.

I am not a Buhari's fan...never...a financial expert explained this to me. grin

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by tomtos88(m): 7:46am On Apr 09, 2019
Oguieke:
24.38 trillion is way too much as any country's debt profile.why are we still borrowing in that excess?

Too much? Buhari is planning to borrow more, after all, he intends to borrow to finance this year budget (year wey don dey crawl go half)
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by blackpanda: 8:02am On Apr 09, 2019
emeejinsm:

If i hear pim from any body now eeh
How can you squander such big resource in just one term
Who send this people go aso

Go school u no go gree
who is talking of squandering resources now smh
Try to read before u comment or at least get an interpreter
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by ABELKIDO(m): 8:02am On Apr 09, 2019
NaijaRoyalty:
Trader money nko and feeding of school children. is too much of a debt with no meaningful development on ground .

Buhari don finish this country .
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Dino98: 8:17am On Apr 09, 2019
Bizznezz:
let FG provide answers


When I saw it on AIT some few days back, I was shocked....

They will soon come and say Railways, NPower and TraderMoney....�����

That debt doubled in less than 4years under a Government that does not loot and spend judiciously....don't forget, they were doing all this borrowing while EFCC has been recovering billions of dollars o...so if I am not mistaken, this government has spent,
OIL Revenues+ Recovered loots + 24trillion borrowed....and Nigeria is still not better than it was before they came on board and yet they say they are the better side.

Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Elvis778(m): 8:27am On Apr 09, 2019
Whyem15:
Let's all remember that Okonjo Iweala paid all Nigeria's debt during Obasanjo's time, at a time when revenue from oil was three times the present value. What did PDP use the #12 trillion naira for after Obasanjo's second term?
so because PDP didn't tell us what they did with the 12trillion, APC should now finish us abi??
Don't be stupid please.
I agree PDP also cheated us, but theirs was better, cuz they did it secretly and our standard of living was fairly good as of that time.
But our so called APC government has denied us our money, our security, our happiness and even our daily meal. And u still defend dem?? What nonsense?

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by obailala(m): 8:48am On Apr 09, 2019
Esseite:
Stupidity is when you are in debt of $65bn (N24tr) but jubiliate over $40bn in the reserve...

Please what are you reserving?
But finally, what bloody moral right does the pdp have to even question or criticise Buhari on borrowing?

The real stupidity is when PDP incurs almost half of the so called debt in 5 years when the nation had almost 4 times more unprecedented income, but in the same period, squandered reserves from over $40bn to $28bn, vaporized ECA of $20bn, and had no tangible projects to show for it, yet they have the guts to criticize APC for borrowing at a different season when there was an oil price slump and govt income was down by over 70%.

Of course the PDP can only exhibit the stupidity above because they know majority of Nigerians lack the capacity to pay attention. First of all, many people ignorantly think the N24trillion debt happened just in 4 years. Secondly, many people assume in their head that it's 16 years vs 4 yrs. Several people have made a comparison saying pDP borrowed Bleep amount in 16 years but APC has borrowed more than that in 4 years. What these people fail to realise is that virtually all the PDP borrowings only happened between 2010 till 2015 when the nation had unprecedented oil revenue.

If APC gives an excuse that it is borrowing because there was an oil recession and national revenue was severely hit since 2015, what excuse exactly does the PDP have for borrowing and accruing almost half of this debt figure between 2010 and 2015 when revenue was 4 times more?
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Nobody: 8:54am On Apr 09, 2019
grin grin
Bizznezz:
let FG provide answers
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by obailala(m): 9:02am On Apr 09, 2019
Elvis778:

so because PDP didn't tell us what they did with the 12trillion, APC should now finish us abi??
Don't be stupid please.
I agree PDP also cheated us, but theirs was better, cuz they did it secretly and our standard of living was fairly good as of that time.
But our so called APC government has denied us our money, our security, our happiness and even our daily meal. And u still defend dem?? What nonsense?
Huh?... How can anyone possibly excuse the nonsense PDP did?.. How can you excuse PDP for their filth and have a problem with APC?...

PDP enjoyed almost 4 times more income than APC, but in the same period, borrowed almost the same amount which APC has borrowed. In the same period, PDP also vaporised reserves and ECA and we still cant point out a single tangible project to account for that, but your excuse is that your standard of living was better?....

Obviously you do not have a clue that the reason your standard of living tumbled post 2015 when oil prices crashed was because when there was plenty, your govt (which you make excuses for) squandered monies that should have been used for sustainable capital development; of course when govt squanders money like that, there is a superficial semblance of a booming economy because some petty change still trickles down to everyone on the street (even when yahoo boys foolishly squander money on the street, the artisans also gain). But the real evidence of how stupid it is for a govt to squander money comes when the money stops coming. It is unfortunate that even educated Nigerians cannot see the link; educated and supposedly enlightened people believe and still argue that life became hard post-2015 because govt changed hands, and not because free oil money stopped flowing. And then you argue defend the mindless foolishness of PDP.

Nigerians (and the black man at large) truly does not have the ability to think, especially when it comes to thinking beyond the food on his plate today.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Whyem15: 9:14am On Apr 09, 2019
Elvis778:

so because PDP didn't tell us what they did with the 12trillion, APC should now finish us abi??
Don't be stupid please.
I agree PDP also cheated us, but theirs was better, cuz they did it secretly and our standard of living was fairly good as of that time.
But our so called APC government has denied us our money, our security, our happiness and even our daily meal. And u still defend dem?? What nonsense?
You can decide to let hatred blind you to the infrastructure being built by the government, that is where the money is going to, you can also decide to be blind to the improvements seen in other sectors, few years ago we know how we queue for fuels at filling station. You expect the economy to be as buoyant as it used to be when our revenue was 3 times what it is currently?, that is sheer stupidity. If you work and don't spend more than you can afford on frivolities, you will eat and be happy.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Nobody: 9:15am On Apr 09, 2019
obailala:
But finally, what bloody moral right does the pdp have to even question or criticise Buhari on borrowing?

The real stupidity is when PDP incurs almost half of the so called debt in 5 years when the nation had almost 4 times more unprecedented income, but in the same period, squandered reserves from over $40bn to $28bn, vaporized ECA of $20bn, and had no tangible projects to show for it, yet they have the guts to criticize APC for borrowing at a different season when there was an oil price slump and govt income was down by over 70%.

Of course the PDP can only exhibit the stupidity above because they know majority of Nigerians lack the capacity to pay attention. First of all, many people ignorantly think the N24trillion debt happened just in 4 years. Secondly, many people assume in their head that it's 16 years vs 4 yrs. Several people have made a comparison saying pDP borrowed Bleep amount in 16 years but APC has borrowed more than that in 4 years. What these people fail to realise is that virtually all the PDP borrowings only happened between 2010 till 2015 when the nation had unprecedented oil revenue.

If APC gives an excuse that it is borrowing because there was an oil recession and national revenue was severely hit since 2015, what excuse exactly does the PDP have for borrowing and accruing almost half of this debt figure between 2010 and 2015 when revenue was 4 times more?




All these $100/barrel quote was not even a whole year... how much did obasanjo/yar adua sell crude to warrant this pdp 16years quote...

Obasanjo sold for $12, while yar adua sold for $23 - $40 while jonathan dangled between 40 and 100

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by bishopkay: 9:16am On Apr 09, 2019
Stalwert:
grin grin grin Atiku won't be president anytime ever

Na that one dey pain you abi? Just imagine what a supposedly "sophisticated" and educated fellow is saying in the face of such bad economic indices.

The problem with Nigeria isn't leadership but followership. Reminds me of a bastard on Twitter who came from Canada to vote for the dull bastard. He voted then returned to Canada. I was like why not just stay here to enjoy the next level? Why run back to a working country?

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Sermwell(m): 9:46am On Apr 09, 2019
Whyem15:
Let's all remember that Okonjo Iweala paid all Nigeria's debt during Obasanjo's time, at a time when revenue from oil was three times the present value. What did PDP use the #12 trillion naira for after Obasanjo's second term?
this one is still here defending nonsense. mumu
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Stalwert: 10:43am On Apr 09, 2019
[s]
bishopkay:


Na that one dey pain you abi? Just imagine what a supposedly "sophisticated" and educated fellow is saying in the face of such bad economic indices.

The problem with Nigeria isn't leadership but followership. Reminds me of a bastard on Twitter who came from Canada to vote for the dull bastard. He voted then returned to Canada. I was like why not just stay here to enjoy the next level? Why run back to a working country?
[/s]

Atiku is that you.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by obailala(m): 10:59am On Apr 09, 2019
Esseite:


All these $100/barrel quote was not even a whole year... how much did obasanjo/yar adua sell crude to warrant this pdp 16years quote...

Obasanjo sold for $12, while yar adua sold for $23 - $40 while jonathan dangled between 40 and 100
$100/ barrel was the AVERAGE for 5 years, sometimes it went over, sometimes it was below. And a point to note, I wasnt talking about 16 years, I specifically referred to the last 5 years of PDP, that's the time everything went down.

Regarding the oil prices in the OBJ era, that was a totally different era, a man who earned N10,000 20 years ago (1999) may have been surviving and comfortable. But give that same man the same N10000 in 2015 or 2019 and he wouldn't be able to feed for a week. Also, if that same man earns N100,000 today, his taste and expenses also go up. So if you crash his salary to even N50000, he might go hungry. Stop basing your comparison of oil prices on Nigeria's situation of 20 years ago.

In 1999, Nigeria's forex demand was less than 10% of what it currently is today. We weren't importing everything as we do currently, Nigeria wasn't importing 99% of it's petroleum product, every man on the street didn't have international mastercards in their wallets to buy even handkerchiefs from abroad at convenience, every other Nigerian wasn't going abroad for studies or medical checkups. 20 years ago, only the top class elite in society needed forex, so in general, the forex demand on the streets was much less than what it is today. Also, the standard of living on the street was far cheaper in 1999 compared to today; minimum wage has increased by up to 2000%, the size of the civil service has multiplied by over 1000% since 1999, the list goes on and on. So yes, even though oil sold for just $12 in 1999 and the Nigerian government made little revenue then compared to today, the little forex and the overall revenue earned then was to a large extent, more sufficient relative to the recent times.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by gentlegenius(m): 1:05pm On Apr 09, 2019
[quote author=patikh123 post=77384766][/quote]
I also didn't vote for him.
The north either voted him in or rigged him in, so as far as I am concerned, he is the president of the north.
I should have said that we are reaping what the north sowed.
It's a pity.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Elvis778(m): 3:40pm On Apr 09, 2019
"e author=Whyem15 post=77388030]
You can decide to let hatred blind you to the infrastructure being built by the government, that is where the money is going to, you can also decide to be blind to the improvements seen in other sectors, few years ago we know how we queue for fuels at filling station. You expect the economy to be as buoyant as it used to be when our revenue was 3 times what it is currently?, that is sheer stupidity. If you work and don't spend more than you can afford on frivolities, you will eat and be happy. [/quote]"
too, just take like 2 weeks break from your work place, try take a bus to kadunna (if u no dey fear kidnappers) or just visit Zamfara, borno or Yobe, see how people are living in raw poverty and extreme fear.
It's not yet in front of your door step doesn't mean it's not happening, few years ago Nigeria was never close to being the poverty capital of the world, Nigeria was far from being one of the hungriest nation in the world. But look at us now?? We don dey lead for all the bad things. What kinda infrastructure are you talking about?? Which government did not develop infrastructure?? Spare me that rubbish please, a government that cannot provide the essential/primary needs like food, security, health etc for it's citizens has failed woefully, don't come and give me useless points, we both know this government has failed. Everyone knows, even a new born baby.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Elvis778(m): 3:56pm On Apr 09, 2019
obailala:
Huh?... How can anyone possibly excuse the nonsense PDP did?.. How can you excuse PDP for their filth and have a problem with APC?...

PDP enjoyed almost 4 times more income than APC, but in the same period, borrowed almost the same amount which APC has borrowed. In the same period, PDP also vaporised reserves and ECA and we still cant point out a single tangible project to account for that, but your excuse is that your standard of living was better?....

Obviously you do not have a clue that the reason your standard of living tumbled post 2015 when oil prices crashed was because when there was plenty, your govt (which you make excuses for) squandered monies that should have been used for sustainable capital development; of course when govt squanders money like that, there is a superficial semblance of a booming economy because some petty change still trickles down to everyone on the street (even when yahoo boys foolishly squander money on the street, the artisans also gain). But the real evidence of how stupid it is for a govt to squander money comes when the money stops coming. It is unfortunate that even educated Nigerians cannot see the link; educated and supposedly enlightened people believe and still argue that life became hard post-2015 because govt changed hands, and not because free oil money stopped flowing. And then you argue defend the mindless foolishness of PDP.

Nigerians (and the black man at large) truly does not have the ability to think, especially when it comes to thinking beyond the food on his plate today.

i thought i had seen it all, not knowing we still have extremely shallow minded people. Can you take a minute to listen to your self?
PDP borrowed equal amount of money in 16years, APC borrowed same amount in just 4years, what does it tell u?? They are still planning to borrow again so as to finance this year's budget, and u still see nothing wrong with dat?? Ur still blaming PDP
We voted out PDP hoping for a better government, and here we have something worse and you still see nothing wrongwith that??
Bros, we are the poorest after India, No 8 hungriest, one of the most insecured country in Africa, and you still see nothing wrong with that?? U deserve to visit a doctor please, seriously speaking. This is the most stupid comment i've seen this year.

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by Elvis778(m): 4:05pm On Apr 09, 2019
Now i know the real problem with our country is followership, people like the guy i quoted up there would never agree Buhari has failed......... He has failed Nigerians, common security he can't provide even after withdrawing a billion naira for weapons, nothing to show for it. God have mercy
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by grandstar(m): 4:20pm On Apr 09, 2019
Whyem15:
Let's all remember that Okonjo Iweala paid all Nigeria's debt during Obasanjo's time, at a time when revenue from oil was three times the present value. What did PDP use the #12 trillion naira for after Obasanjo's second term?

At the time, the debt was paid off, crude oil price never exceeded $65.

A lot of the so called 12 trillion went on providing subsidised fuel and on paying the 18,000 minimum wage which had been increased from it's previous 5,500. A lot was frittered on the army with no corresponding results, and a lot misused or simply stolen.

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Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by obailala(m): 9:23pm On Apr 09, 2019
Elvis778:

i thought i had seen it all, not knowing we still have extremely shallow minded people. Can you take a minute to listen to your self?
[b]PDP borrowed equal amount of money in 16years, APC borrowed same amount in just 4years, what does it tell u?? [/b]They are still planning to borrow again so as to finance this year's budget, and u still see nothing wrong with dat?? Ur still blaming PDP
We voted out PDP hoping for a better government, and here we have something worse and you still see nothing wrongwith that??
Bros, we are the poorest after India, No 8 hungriest, one of the most insecured country in Africa, and you still see nothing wrong with that?? U deserve to visit a doctor please, seriously speaking. This is the most stupid comment i've seen this year.
If you had the capacity to pay attention, if you were not desperate to jump into a response before taking a minute to read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I did not in any way, directly or indirectly, say there was nothing wrong with borrowing. I only said PDP which also borrowed massively even when almost 4 times more income accrued to the nation should by no means be the ones castigating APC for borrowing at a time of significant revenue drop. PDP has no moral right to open their mouths to tell anyone that. This is common sense.

PDP borrowed equal amount of money in 16years, APC borrowed same amount in just 4years, what does it tell u??
You want to know what your statement above tells me? ... It simply tells me you're just one of the plenty Nigerians who only get info from beer parlour gists and gibberish vomitted by political commentators on social media without bothering to verify or personally analyse anything.

I clarified this thing in an earlier post on this thread. Many Nigerians carelessly just compare 16 yrs PDP vs 4 years APC, but fail to note that the so called money PDP borrowed was borrowed mainly just in the last 4 years of PDP (when national income was highest). If you want to see true shallowness, just take a look at your nearest mirror; try and verify your info before coming to public to spew insults and embarrass yourself.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by UltiMax(m): 11:16pm On Apr 09, 2019
Elvis778:

so because PDP didn't tell us what they did with the 12trillion, APC should now finish us abi??
Don't be stupid please.
I agree PDP also cheated us, but theirs was better, cuz they did it secretly and our standard of living was fairly good as of that time.
But our so called APC government has denied us our money, our security, our happiness and even our daily meal. And u still defend dem?? What nonsense?

Don't mind the e-diots. No winder they are called zombies.
Re: PDP Queries FG, Buhari Over N24.38tn Debt Profile by UltiMax(m): 11:19pm On Apr 09, 2019
Elvis778:

so because PDP didn't tell us what they did with the 12trillion, APC should now finish us abi??
Don't be stupid please.
I agree PDP also cheated us, but theirs was better, cuz they did it secretly and our standard of living was fairly good as of that time.
But our so called APC government has denied us our money, our security, our happiness and even our daily meal. And u still defend dem?? What nonsense?

Don't mind the e-diots. No winder they are called zombies. Always quick to blame PDP.
What is APC doing differently? Where is the change they promised.

If we don't call a spade a spade irrespective of who governs Nigeria will never improve

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