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Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by hakunajay(m): 10:38pm On Oct 04, 2010
10 People Who Sold Their
Soul To The Devil
There is always someone
looking for the easy way of
obtaining more pleasure, wealth
or power. I always find it
fascinating the lengths some
will try just to achieve what
they desire most. This list looks
at 10 who are believed to have
turned to the ultimate evil to
obtain their desire.
10
Pope Sylvester II
(born c. 945- died 5-12-1003)
Pope Sylvester II was one of
the most learned men of his
time. Well versed in
mathematics, astronomy, and
mechanics; he is credited with
inventing the hydraulic organ,
pendulum clock, and introducing
Arabic numerals to Western
Europe. He also wrote books on
mathematics, natural science,
music, theology and philosophy.
Pope Sylvester II was the first
French Pope and certainly the
most significant in the 10th
century. Upon his death,
rumors began to fly that his
great intelligence – and,
consequently his inventive
genius – was the result of a
pact with the devil. This was
most likely due to his regular
contact with great scientific
minds in the Arab world and his
brave attempts to root out
simony in the Church.
9
Nicolo Paganini
(born 10-27-1782 – died
5-27-1840)
Nicolo Paganini is one of the
greatest violin virtuosos to
have ever lived. He learned to
play the mandolin at 5 and was
composing by 7. He started
playing publicly at 12 but by 16
he had a breakdown and
disappeared into alcoholism. He
sobered up and by 22 was the
first music superstar. Paganini
was capable of playing three
octaves across four strings in a
hand span, a feat that is
nearly impossible even by
today ’s standards. He
composed 24 Caprices at 23
and for years no other violinist
was capable of playing much of
his music. His playing of tender
passages is said to have
brought audiences to tears.
One of his famous pieces was
called Le Streghe which
translates to Witches ’ Dance.
Audiences believed Paganini
made a pact with the devil to
perform supernatural displays
of technique. Some patrons
even claimed to see the devil
helping him during his
performances. It is because he
was denied the Last Rites in
the Church and his widely
rumored association with the
devil, that his body was denied
a Catholic burial in Genoa. It
took four years, and an appeal
to the Pope, before the body
was allowed to be transported
to Genoa, but was still not
buried. His remains were finally
put to rest in 1876 in a
cemetery in Parma.
8
Gilles de Rais
(born 1404- died 1440)
Gilles de Rais was considered
intelligent, courageous and
very attractive with a bluish
black beard. Born to one of the
most distinguished families in
Brittany, he came into his own
when his father died in Gilles’
20th year. He found himself
with untold wealth and power
which eventually led to his
downfall. Gilles got an attack of
“ keeping up with the Joneses”
which ultimately led to the loss
of much of his wealth. In
desperation he began to
experiment with the occult
under the direction of a man
named Francesco Prelati, who
promised that Gilles could help
him regain his squandered
fortune by sacrificing children
to a demon called “Baron.” Over
the course of his killing spree,
Gilles Molested, tortured, and
murdered between 80 and 200
children. He was tried, found
guilty, and executed by hanging
and burning.
7
General Jonathan Moulton
(born 7-21-1726- died
9-18-1787)
Jonathan Moulton started as
an apprentice to a cabinet
maker but in 1745 he left and
started his career in the New
England Army. He fought in the
King George War and the
French and Indian War. He
married in 1749 and sired 11
children. He became one of the
wealthiest men in New
Hampshire and this led to later
tales of his deal with the devil.
In 1769 the mansion he built in
a poor Puritan town burned to
the ground. Popular belief at
the time was that Moulton had
a pact with the devil wherein
he would fill Moulton ’s boots to
the brim with gold once a
month in return for his soul. It
was said that Moulton thought
up a clever ploy and placed his
boots – with the soles cut off –
over a large hole in the ground.
The devil, wondering why it was
taking so much gold to fill the
boots discovered the trick and
exacted revenge. It is believed
that when Moulton died his
body disappeared out of the
coffin and was replaced by a
box of coins stamped with an
image of the devil. Moulton ’s
coffin was buried with no grave
marker and its location is
unknown.
6
Father Urbain Grandier
(born c. 1590- died 8-16-1634)
Father Urbain Granadier was a
French Catholic priest who was
burned at the stake after
being convicted of witchcraft.
He served as priest in the
church of Sainte Croix in
Loudun, in the Roman Catholic
Diocese of Poitiers. Ignoring his
vow of priestly celibacy, he is
known to have had intimate
relationships with a number of
women and to have acquired a
reputation as a philanderer. In
1632, a group of nuns from the
local Ursuline convent accused
him of having bewitched them,
sending the demon Asmodai,
among others, to commit evil
and impudent acts with them.
At his trial, the judges, after
torturing the priest, introduced
documents purportedly signed
by Grandier and several
demons as evidence that he
had made a diabolical pact.
They were written backwards
in Latin and even included the
signature of Satan himself. The
text of the pact read as
follows (the original can be
seen above – click for a larger
view):
We, the influential Lucifer,
the young Satan,
Beelzebub, Leviathan,
Elimi,
and Astaroth, together
with others, have today
accepted the covenant
pact
of Urbain Grandier, who is
ours. And him do we
promise
the love of women, the
flower of virgins, the
respect of monarchs,
honors, lusts and powers.
He will go whoring three
days long; the carousal
will be dear to him. He
offers us once
in the year a seal of
blood, under the feet he
will trample the holy
things of the church and
he will ask us many
questions; with this pact
he will live twenty years
happy
on the earth of men, and
will later join us to sin
against God.
Bound in hell, in the
council of demons.
Lucifer Beelzebub Satan
Astaroth Leviathan Elimi
The seals placed the
Devil, the master, and
the demons, princes of
the lord.
Baalberith, writer.
5
Giuseppe Tartini
(born 4-8-1692- died
2-26-1770)
Tartini was an Italian composer
and violinist. He was one of the
most instrumental musical
composers having written over
400 works. Unlike most of his
contemporaries he wrote no
church music or operas, he
focused most of his work on
violin concerti and sonatas. His
most infamous piece is called
the Devil ’s Trill Sonata. The
story behind “Devil’s Trill”
starts with a dream. Tartini
allegedly told the French
astronomer Jérôme Lalande
that he dreamed that The Devil
appeared to him and asked to
be his servant. At the end of
their lessons Tartini handed the
devil his violin to test his skill —
the devil immediately began to
play with such virtuosity that
Tartini felt his breath taken
away. When the composer
awoke he immediately jotted
down the sonata, desperately
trying to recapture what he
had heard in the dream.
Despite the sonata being
successful with his audiences,
Tartini lamented that the piece
was still far from what he had
heard in his dream. What he
had written was, in his own
words: “so inferior to what I
had heard, that if I could have
subsisted on other means, I
would have broken my violin
and abandoned music forever. ”
You can listen to part IV of the
piece above – the most difficult
section, played by Itzhak
Perlman. If you prefer a more
techno version of the piece,
you can hear Vanessa Mae
playing it here.
4
Cornelius Agrippa
(born 9-14-1486- died
2-18-1535)
Cornelius Agrippa was the most
influential writer of renaissance
esoterica. He studied law and
medicine but never obtained a
degree. He was considered a
magician, occult writer,
theologian, astrologer and
alchemist. He was a leader in
feminist rights and often
defended women accused of
witchcraft. He wrote 3 books
on the occult that are still in
use today. In 1535 he was
labeled a heretic and sentenced
to death. He escaped and on
his way home fell ill and died.
After Agrippa ’s death, rumors
circulated about his having
summoned demons. In the most
famous of these, Agrippa, upon
his deathbed, released a black
dog which had been his familiar.
This black dog resurfaced in
various legends about Faustus,
and in Goethe ’s version became
the “schwarze Pudel”
Mephistopheles.
3
Robert Johnson
(born 5-8-1911- died
9-16-1938)
Robert Johnson was a great
American Blues musician. Ranked
5th out of 100 on Rolling
Stones list as the greatest
guitarists of all time. The legend
goes that he wanted to be
great at guitar and was
instructed to head to a
crossroads. There he met the
devil who tuned his guitar,
giving him mastery over the
instrument. Johnson did little to
dispel the rumors, even
encouraging them by alluding to
the fact that he had, indeed,
made a deal with the prince of
darkness. He produced 6
records before his death at
age 27. Johnson’s death is
controversial as the most
common claim is he was caught
flirting with a married women
and she offered him some
whiskey which was believed to
be poisoned by her husband. He
was buried in an unmarked
grave, the location of which is
still under debate.
2
Johann Georg Faust
(born c. 1480- died c. 1540)
Dr. Johann Georg Faust was an
itinerant alchemist, astrologer
and magician of the German
Renaissance. His life became the
nucleus of the popular tale of
Doctor Faust from ca. the
1580s, notably culminating in
Marlowe ’s The Tragical History
of Doctor Faustus (1604) and
Goethe ’s Faust (1808). Legend
has it that Faust wanted a life
of pleasure and having been
involved with the occult learned
how to summon the devil.
Having done so he made a deal
with him for his soul in return
for 24 years of service from
Satan. Unfortunately, after 16
years he regretted his deal
and wanted to withdraw it. The
consequences of this attempt
to withdraw the deal are well
known to any who have read
the various fictional tales of
Faust ’s life: the devil brutally
murdered him.
1
St. Theophilus of Adana
(died c. 538)
Saint Theophilus the Penitent,
or Theophilus of Adana (died ca.
538), was a cleric in the sixth
century Church who is said to
have made a deal with the devil
to gain an ecclesiastical
position. His story is significant
as it is the oldest story of a
pact with the Devil. Theophilus
was the archdeacon of Adana,
Cilicia, which is part of modern
Turkey. He was unanimously
elected to be a bishop, but
turned the position down out
of humility. Another man was
elected in his stead. When the
new bishop unjustly deprived
Theophilus of his position as
archdeacon, Theophilus
regretted his humility and
sought out a wizard to help him
contact Satan. In exchange for
his aid, Satan demanded that
Theophilus renounce Christ and
the Virgin Mary in a contract
signed with his own blood.
Theophilus complied, and the
devil gave him the position as
bishop.
Years later, fearful for his soul,
Theophilus repented and
prayed to the Virgin for
forgiveness. After forty days of
fasting, the Virgin appeared to
him and verbally chastised him.
Theophilus begged forgiveness
and Mary promised to
intercede with God. He then
fasted a further thirty days,
at which time Mary appeared
to him again, and granted him
Absolution. However, Satan was
unwilling to relinquish his hold
over Theophilus, and it was a
further three days before
Theophilus awoke to find the
damning contract on his chest.
He then took the contract to
the legitimate bishop and
confessed all that he had done.
The bishop burned the
document, and Theophilus
expired, out of sheer joy to be
free from the burden of his
contract.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by hakunajay(m): 10:44pm On Oct 04, 2010
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by Dimka76(m): 11:11pm On Oct 04, 2010
The devil seems to fancy music.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by hakunajay(m): 6:29am On Oct 05, 2010
Yeah, this explains the success of many musicians though they sang rubbish. Also, dont forget that he's the chief musician in heaven before his fall.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by sauer(m): 9:53am On Oct 05, 2010
this post is so funny. couldn't stop laughing. Man, those who did this succeeded perfectly. Only it's so baseless.
I'd like to believe this was posted as a joke, hence my laughing. But is poster is really serious
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by omobadan(m): 1:22am On Oct 06, 2010
Hehehehehe!!!! It's probably a joke! grin I mean, how can you tell somebody sells a soul? No1, the notion of selling your soul, is just a phrase! It's not suppose to be taken literally! 2nd, that list is full of more holes than an Amsterdam red light district!
"Upon his death, rumors began to fly that his great intelligence – and, consequently his inventive genius – was the result of a pact with the devil."
Are you kidding me? What's wrong with you people? Can't you see this is total bullcrap?
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by hakunajay(m): 7:42am On Oct 06, 2010
^^^Whatever, i'll advise you to click the link and see the original post. You'll see a document signed by the devil himself then come back and tell me it's a joke.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 11:44am On Oct 07, 2010
hakunajay:

^^^Whatever, i'll advise you to click the link and see the original post. You'll see a document signed by the devil himself then come back and tell me it's a joke.

Step 1: turn on brain

Step 2: remove stick from Bottom grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by InesQor(m): 1:04pm On Oct 07, 2010
Looool what a thread! grin grin
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by Mudley313: 1:21pm On Oct 07, 2010
hakunajay:

^^^Whatever, i'll advise you to click the link and see the original post. You'll see a document signed by the devil himself then come back and tell me it's a joke.



i never knew psychiatric wards had internet cafes as well
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by omobadan(m): 12:23am On Oct 09, 2010
hakunajay:

^^^Whatever, i'll advise you to click the link and see the original post. You'll see a document signed by the devil himself then come back and tell me it's a joke.

Stop it, man! You're cracking me up! You mean you actually believe that crap? Just for argument sake, what does one gain and lose from selling one's soul to the devil? Please i'll like to know.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by sauer(m): 1:43pm On Oct 09, 2010
hakunajay:

^^^Whatever, i'll advise you to click the link and see the original post. You'll see a document signed by the devil himself then come back and tell me it's a joke.
document signed by the devil himself? what a revelation!
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:35am On Oct 11, 2010
This is how they sign their souls away, for fame.

http://media.chick.com/tract_6.swf
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 11:01am On Oct 11, 2010
@Ola, i can assure you Satan has no need for your soul, that matter has already been signed/sealed/delivered what is the koko is getting more False Prophets into the Mix, it seems the Muslims are way ahead of you there. grin


", for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" -Matthew 7:13 ( The Holy Bible)
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:19am On Oct 11, 2010
lagerwhenindoubt:

@Ola, i can assure you Satan has no need for your soul, that matter has already been signed/sealed/delivered what is the koko is getting more False Prophets into the Mix, it seems the Muslims are way ahead of you there. grin

And why are you convinced that you have not sold your soul to the devil?
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:19pm On Oct 11, 2010

Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by Mudley313: 1:01pm On Oct 11, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

This is how they sign their souls away, for fame.

http://media.chick.com/tract_6.swf

smh. presenting cartoon strips as evidence of some mythical entities signing contractual agreements with one another is as credible as comic strips with a grown man with tight clothings and a cape flying in the sky

and you forgot to mention obama in your post
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:08pm On Oct 11, 2010
@Mudley313,

This is for you and your folks.

Big Daddy. wink

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 1:25pm On Oct 11, 2010
^^^^^Arent you old enough to stop expression always in cartoon? I know you must doddle (unstructured writing or drawing)> Using that to express yourself, all the time is not good.


So you come here now, Olaadegbu to say that "SATAN" can buy the soul of a person in contract? But in the thread of Tonye-T, you and your christian friends laughed at the Messenger (AS) tell muslims how not allow Satan to seduce him into the contract.


Your kind of man is what we call hypocrite in Islam. Well what do I expect from you since you say three Gods are always equal to One.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:55pm On Oct 11, 2010
@nopuqeater,

Don't you know by now that satan doesn't need a contract? he's got everyone who has refused to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 2:10pm On Oct 11, 2010
@Olaadegbu: Am following your logic, man.

What you write is what I respond to.


If Satan does not need physical contract, he sure got a spiritual contract with those who are not mindful of his ways;

Those who say there is no God.

Those who say God are what you make of Him.

Those who say God is partnership with any thing, man Angel, name it.

THose who say God is their tribal possession and the rest of us outside the tribe are excluded.


All of these people and many that i have not listed, including hypocrites from among muslims, all of them are with Shaitan. Allah has allowed Shaitan a free will on them. They and Shaitan will be inmates of hell fire.


When according to the Bible the Devil (Shaitan) said to Jesus son of Mary: I own the authority of this world. Bow to me. It will be yours". Jesus was reported that he worshp only God. So do I. So do all believing Muslims. Jesus was not his own Lord. Allah is. It is Allah we worship and only His aids we seek.


You want to go to Pit of the lake of fire, continue with your human worship and taking him as patron and partner with your Creator. Your day of reckorning is coming. You will not be able to escape it. And Jesus will need help for himself, except that he has mercy of Allah just like any and all Prophets does.


You will be on your own. Easily you will see your destinya dn will hate it. But there is nothing you can do about it.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:15am On Oct 12, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu: Am following your logic, man.

What you write is what I respond to.

OK

nopuqeater:

If Satan does not need physical contract, he sure got a spiritual contract with those who are not mindful of his ways;
Those who say there is no God.
Those who say God are what you make of Him.

Agreed.

nopuqeater:

Those who say God is partnership with any thing, man Angel, name it.

It depends on what you think God is.  Christians believe that God enters into partnership with His children, and this is often called a covenant.  Abraham benefitted from this and as a result the Israelites and believers in Christ are still enjoying the blessings till date.

nopuqeater:

THose who say God is their tribal possession and the rest of us outside the tribe are excluded.

God is for everyone who receives Him as their Lord and Saviour but if you reject His Son then you reject the Father:

"Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: but he that acknowledes the Son has the Father also"

nopuqeater:

All of these people and many that i have not listed, including hypocrites from among muslims, all of them are with Shaitan. Allah has allowed Shaitan a free will on them. They and Shaitan will be inmates of hell fire.

Are you talking about the Allah that can decide to mislead muslims into hell?

nopuqeater:

When according to the Bible the Devil (Shaitan) said to Jesus son of Mary: I own the authority of this world. Bow to me. It will be yours". Jesus was reported that he worshp only God. So do I. So do all believing Muslims. Jesus was not his own Lord. Allah is. It is Allah we worship and only His aids we seek.

Biblically speaking, Jesus Christ in His humanity prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest

"in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7)

Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

nopuqeater:

You want to go to Pit of the lake of fire, continue with your human worship and taking him as patron and partner with your Creator. Your day of reckorning is coming. You will not be able to escape it. And Jesus will need help for himself, except that he has mercy of Allah just like any and all Prophets does.
You will be on your own. Easily you will see your destinya dn will hate it. But there is nothing you can do about it.

Don't be surprised on the Day or reckoning that the one who you worship turns out to be the horned one but by then it would be too late if you don't take advantage of the privilege of the Advocate who can plead your case, and that Advocate is not Mo as he himself will need to plead for himself before the King of Kings and Lord of Lord.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by hakunajay(m): 12:55pm On Oct 12, 2010
All of have spoken well. To those who believe, weldone and to those who dont, be careful especially you who is indirectly referring to your daddy as a madman! It's well with all of you!
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 3:00pm On Oct 12, 2010
@Olaadegbu: « #21 on: Today at 12:15:37 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
@Olaadegbu: Am following your logic, man.

What you write is what I respond to.

OK

Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
If Satan does not need physical contract, he sure got a spiritual contract with those who are not mindful of his ways;
Those who say there is no God.
Those who say God are what you make of Him.

Agreed.

Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
Those who say God is partnership with any thing, man Angel, name it.

It depends on what you think God is. Christians believe that God enters into partnership with His children, and this is often called a covenant. Abraham benefitted from this and as a result the Israelites and believers in Christ are still enjoying the blessings till date.[/Quote]Irony it is, that you think God is now your father and that He is a partner of something. Why a partner; what benefit is there for Him? This makes Him more Godly, higher than what He was? Or this makes Him less in Authority, less Godly now that He shares control with others, His partners? Or its not changing His Original Position? If the last is what you choose, why a need in the first place if it changes nothing? If either of the former, then explain yourself. It must have a good reason. Finally, I have never seen you write your last name as Yahweh, jehovah, Adonia, Elohim, Eloi, or Jesus or something else before. What role did God play in your coming of human that makes Him your father, rather than the old man whose family name you carry? Mom must be happy about your being son of Yahweh. Am sure she is not the wife of God, since she is married to the man you now deny?





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
THose who say God is their tribal possession and the rest of us outside the tribe are excluded.

God is for everyone who receives Him as their Lord and Saviour but if you reject His Son then you reject the Father:

"Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: but he that acknowledes the Son has the Father also"
[/Quote]With this here you just killed the Jews. Also you slaughter the Bible that says "Salvation is of the Jews".





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
All of these people and many that i have not listed, including hypocrites from among muslims, all of them are with Shaitan. Allah has allowed Shaitan a free will on them. They and Shaitan will be inmates of hell fire.

Are you talking about the Allah that can decide to mislead muslims into hell?[/Quote]Show me a verse that Allah has "decided to mislead Muslims into hell". Just one verse from the Quran. Just one hadith. Either place you win. If not you are a complete loser.





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
When according to the Bible the Devil (Shaitan) said to Jesus son of Mary: I own the authority of this world. Bow to me. It will be yours". Jesus was reported that he worshp only God. So do I. So do all believing Muslims. Jesus was not his own Lord. Allah is. It is Allah we worship and only His aids we seek.

Biblically speaking, Jesus Christ in His humanity prayed to the Father. Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer. Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest[/Quote]In all of the above, you have proven that jesus was a mere human, given a revelation to lead his community on the right path. He had to pray to God also. Do you know how he prayed to God and is that how you pray, now? If not, know that you are not following Jesus. Not in one above that Jesus show a sign of being God or a partner. What Jesus said has more weight than what his so called followers said about him. It should in the mind of normal people.





[QUote]"in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7)[/Quote]Ridiculous argument. Hebrew writers know more about Jesus than Jesus know more about himself?




[Quote]Jesus could pray to the Father. But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.[/Quote]A real king dont bow to another king. Unless he in the face of the king he bows to, he is not a king. And he accepted that he is not a king when he is in the presence of the bigger ing. SO I ask you who is Truly The Deity, between the One Who is Prayed to by the one you say is a deity also, who will never receive prayer from the One he has just prayed to? My money is on the One Who is Prayed to, always. When you pray to Jesus, you have practiced idolatry. When I pray to God Almighty alone, without ever praying to Jesus or Muhammad or anything, I am not in idolatry or disobedience to the God or any of His Messengers and or Prophets. This was the Commandment of God Who created me, and the commandment and actions of the Messengers and or Prophets (AS).





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 02:10:23 PM
You want to go to Pit of the lake of fire, continue with your human worship and taking him as patron and partner with your Creator. Your day of reckorning is coming. You will not be able to escape it. And Jesus will need help for himself, except that he has mercy of Allah just like any and all Prophets does.
You will be on your own. Easily you will see your destiny and will hate it. But there is nothing you can do about it.

Don't be surprised on the Day or reckoning that the one who you worship turns out to be the horned one[/Quote]Here you described Satan. I wish Tonye-T will laugh at this too. No? Its hiarious my his human vision standard.




[Quote]but by then it would be too late[/QUote]I say Lanatullah to Shaitan daily. I say Audhu Illahi minal Shaitani Rajim, daily. Neither is a praise worthy statement. But curses. Do you curse the one you worship; Father, Ghos and Son? Any? This tells you that I dont worship Shaitan. I know you worship Shaitan, by bringing Jesus to be your Lord God. I know that without any doubt.




[Quote]if you don't take advantage of the privilege of the Advocate who can plead your case, and that Advocate is not Mo as he himself will need to plead for himself before the King of Kings and Lord of Lord.[/Quote]The advocate who said some other advocate will come after him, whom he called Another Comforter? I am with the Another Comforter. I dont need old news. I am dealing with the last and the latest. It is the most updated version of advocates. Muhammad ibn Abdallah (AS) is quite enough because all the other previous advocates, incuding Isa bin Maryam (AS) are all behind him. He is their leader and following the leade is very comforting. This is an able leader; a true leader. Muhammad's position is guaranteed as the first and the highest in Paradise. Finally where is the throne of the king of Kings and Lord of Lords? We know that Buckingham Palace is that of Queen Elizabeth 2 of the house of Windsor. You must have tied a full or half windsor knots in your Long Neck Ties, before? Where is the throne of your king who was never a king?
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by Mudley313: 4:44pm On Oct 12, 2010
from people who sold their soul to the mythical devil to the redundant back and forth my-god-is-better-than-your-god arguments. smh @ grown ups arguing over who's imaginary friend is better

Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:03am On Oct 13, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu: « #21 on: Today at 12:15:37 AM »Irony it is, that you think God is now your father and that He is a partner of something. Why a partner; what benefit is there for Him? This makes Him more Godly, higher than what He was? Or this makes Him less in Authority, less Godly now that He shares control with others, His partners? Or its not changing His Original Position? If the last is what you choose, why a need in the first place if it changes nothing? If either of the former, then explain yourself. It must have a good reason. Finally, I have never seen you write your last name as Yahweh, jehovah, Adonia, Elohim, Eloi, or Jesus or something else before. What role did God play in your coming of human that makes Him your father, rather than the old man whose family name you carry? Mom must be happy about your being son of Yahweh. Am sure she is not the wife of God, since she is married to the man you now deny?

You don't have to be biologically born before you become a child, have you heard of adoption before? Did you know that when a child is adopted that child becomes a bonafide child of the person? This may be music in the ears of slaves.

nopuqeater:

With this here you just killed the Jews. Also you slaughter the Bible that says "Salvation is of the Jews".

This is Jesus talking to a Samaritan woman on religious issues and He is saying the same to you, that true worship is that of the heart and not at any specific place, it is wherever you are.

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him."

nopuqeater:

Show me a verse that Allah has "decided to mislead Muslims into hell". Just one verse from the Quran. Just one hadith. Either place you win. If not you are a complete loser.

"And We never sent a messenger save with the language of his folk, that he might make (the message) clear for them. Then Allah sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Wise." -- Surah.14:4 you can also see Surah 6:39 and Surah 16:93 if you doubt it. Read it and come back to tell me who the loser is. wink

nopuqeater:

In all of the above, you have proven that jesus was a mere human, given a revelation to lead his community on the right path. He had to pray to God also. Do you know how he prayed to God and is that how you pray, now? If not, know that you are not following Jesus. Not in one above that Jesus show a sign of being God or a partner. What Jesus said has more weight than what his so called followers said about him. It should in the mind of normal people.

Since you believe He is a mere human being and a prophet of God, do you believe that He is the only One who claimed that He is the way, the truth and the life, that no one can get to God except he comes through Him?

nopuqeater:

Ridiculous argument. Hebrew writers know more about Jesus than Jesus know more about himself?

That is not an argument it is the gospel truth.

nopuqeater:

A real king dont bow to another king. Unless he in the face of the king he bows to, he is not a king. And he accepted that he is not a king when he is in the presence of the bigger ing. SO I ask you who is Truly The Deity, between the One Who is Prayed to by the one you say is a deity also, who will never receive prayer from the One he has just prayed to? My money is on the One Who is Prayed to, always. When you pray to Jesus, you have practiced idolatry. When I pray to God Almighty alone, without ever praying to Jesus or Muhammad or anything, I am not in idolatry or disobedience to the God or any of His Messengers and or Prophets. This was the Commandment of God Who created me, and the commandment and actions of the Messengers and or Prophets (AS).

No one is forcing you to bow to another King, bow to God your Creator and believe His Prophet Jesus Christ especially when He claimed that He has power on earth to forgive sins (Matthew 9:2-6). No other prophet or Messenger of any of the great religions made this bold claim. Only Jesus can provide peace with God.

nopuqeater:

Here you described Satan. I wish Tonye-T will laugh at this too. No? Its hiarious my his human vision standard.

You don't have to be deceived by satan when you can believe Prophet Jesus who is the Way of the Truth that leads to Life.

nopuqeater:

I say Lanatullah to Shaitan daily. I say Audhu Illahi minal Shaitani Rajim, daily. Neither is a praise worthy statement. But curses. Do you curse the one you worship; Father, Ghos and Son? Any? This tells you that I dont worship Shaitan. I know you worship Shaitan, by bringing Jesus to be your Lord God. I know that without any doubt.

My mouth has been set aside to bless and not curse. Since you believe that you have to curse and stone satan when you go for your pilgrimage how come multitudes end up dying before they return to their country of abode on a yearly basis? Does this tell you something at all?

nopuqeater:

The advocate who said some other advocate will come after him, whom he called Another Comforter? I am with the Another Comforter. I dont need old news. I am dealing with the last and the latest. It is the most updated version of advocates. Muhammad ibn Abdallah (AS) is quite enough because all the other previous advocates, incuding Isa bin Maryam (AS) are all behind him. He is their leader and following the leade is very comforting. This is an able leader; a true leader. Muhammad's position is guaranteed as the first and the highest in Paradise. Finally where is the throne of the king of Kings and Lord of Lords? We know that Buckingham Palace is that of Queen Elizabeth 2 of the house of Windsor. You must have tied a full or half windsor knots in your Long Neck Ties, before? Where is the throne of your king who was never a king?

The person you call the comforter is he not dead or who is now your comforter who is the last and latest updated advocate? Is it the one who said that he does not know what will happen to him on Judgment Day?
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 2:39pm On Oct 13, 2010
@Olaadegbu; « #25 on: Today at 11:03:25 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
@Olaadegbu: « #21 on: Today at 12:15:37 AM »Irony it is, that you think God is now your father and that He is a partner of something. Why a partner; what benefit is there for Him? This makes Him more Godly, higher than what He was? Or this makes Him less in Authority, less Godly now that He shares control with others, His partners? Or its not changing His Original Position? If the last is what you choose, why a need in the first place if it changes nothing? If either of the former, then explain yourself. It must have a good reason. Finally, I have never seen you write your last name as Yahweh, jehovah, Adonia, Elohim, Eloi, or Jesus or something else before. What role did God play in your coming of human that makes Him your father, rather than the old man whose family name you carry? Mom must be happy about your being son of Yahweh. Am sure she is not the wife of God, since she is married to the man you now deny?

You don't have to be biologically born before you become a child, have you heard of adoption before? Did you know that when a child is adopted that child becomes a bonafide child of the person? This may be music in the ears of slaves.[/Quote]I know about adoption. An adopted child of an adoptive parent is a bonafide biological child of his/her birth parent. You are not making sense at all. Even a slave of a man, like you to Jesus is a free born of his parent, like that of yours in Nigeria.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
With this here you just killed the Jews. Also you slaughter the Bible that says "Salvation is of the Jews".

This is Jesus talking to a Samaritan woman on religious issues and He is saying the same to you, that true worship is that of the heart and not at any specific place, it is wherever you are.

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him."
[/Quote]I pray at home; My night prayers (Tahajjud and Qiyammullal), my sunnah, my nafils and when am far away from masjid, my Farida, and when am traveling I shorten the farida and eliminate the Sunnah. These are Mercy from Allah on me, which you dont have a share of. I remember Allah even outside Salah; like right now.





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
Show me a verse that Allah has "decided to mislead Muslims into hell". Just one verse from the Quran. Just one hadith. Either place you win. If not you are a complete loser.

"And We never sent a messenger save with the language of his folk, that he might make (the message) clear for them. Then Allah sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Wise." -- Surah.14:4 you can also see Surah 6:39 and Surah 16:93 if you doubt it. Read it and come back to tell me who the loser is. Wink[/Quote]By Allah, you are the absolute loser! I know it and your conscience tells you you are. This is certain for I am a muslim and you are not. I do not deny any prophet (AS), and I do not associate anything with Allah. You do both. Hence, you are the loser. Allah guarantees it, if you remain in your state.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
In all of the above, you have proven that jesus was a mere human, given a revelation to lead his community on the right path. He had to pray to God also. Do you know how he prayed to God and is that how you pray, now? If not, know that you are not following Jesus. Not in one above that Jesus show a sign of being God or a partner. What Jesus said has more weight than what his so called followers said about him. It should in the mind of normal people.

Since you believe He is a mere human being and a prophet of God, do you believe that He is the only One who claimed that He is the way, the truth and the life, that no one can get to God except he comes through Him?[/Quote]Every Prophet was the way to his nation. Jesus to the Bani Israel between the time of his prophet and just at the beginning of the prophethood of Rasullullah (AS). Musa was the way for his own people between the time of his prophethood and the prophet that succeeded him. Finally, Muhammad (AS) is the way for all nations and people of the world, from between his prophethood and it will end on earth when the last man dies.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
Ridiculous argument. Hebrew writers know more about Jesus than Jesus know more about himself?

That is not an argument it is the gospel truth.[/Quote]Ridiculous statement it is.





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
A real king dont bow to another king. Unless he in the face of the king he bows to, he is not a king. And he accepted that he is not a king when he is in the presence of the bigger ing. SO I ask you who is Truly The Deity, between the One Who is Prayed to by the one you say is a deity also, who will never receive prayer from the One he has just prayed to? My money is on the One Who is Prayed to, always. When you pray to Jesus, you have practiced idolatry. When I pray to God Almighty alone, without ever praying to Jesus or Muhammad or anything, I am not in idolatry or disobedience to the God or any of His Messengers and or Prophets. This was the Commandment of God Who created me, and the commandment and actions of the Messengers and or Prophets (AS).

No one is forcing you to bow to another King, bow to God your Creator and believe His Prophet Jesus Christ especially when He claimed that He has power on earth to forgive sins (Matthew 9:2-6). No other prophet or Messenger of any of the great religions made this bold claim. Only Jesus can provide peace with God.[/Quote]Muhammad (AS) Allah says in the Quran, in the 2nd to the last verse of Surah Taubah "A messenger has been raised among you people, he is grieved that you do not hurry to belief, and worried that you will be ruined for it. He is a means of Mercy and Forgiveness" In the Battle of Badr, the Muslims who supported the Messenger (AS), were forgiven of all their sins of the past, the present and if in the future the commit any, it is already forgiven. They wer guranteed Jannah. On that occasion they total 333. In another situation, Muhammad announced that 10 people are guaranteed Paradise. In another occasion, Bilal bin Rabah (RA) was informed of his entry to Jannah, by his feet already in it.

In the preparation for Hijr, Asm'aa was guaranteed paradise by Muhammad (AS) for her using part of her waist bad cloth to tie a bg of food. At another time, a man walked into the mosque in Madina and Muhammad (AS) said to the people around him that this man is guaranteed Jannah. Another time, a man said to him: Oh prophet, I want to be close to you in Paradise. The prophet (AS) guaranteed him right there and then. Another time, a man said oh prophet I want to be with you in Paradise. He said to him, worship Allah more and you will. Another time a man kissed his belly and said this part of me that touches the messenger fire will never touch it. He is guaranteed Jannah by the prophet's silence as agreement. Another time, they cupped his back and a man drank it and he said I will never enter Hell with part of the messenger in me.

The prophet kept silent about the man;s statement, except he discouraged anyone drinking what comes out of cupping. I can give you a ton of stories. Mere saying I can is not like doing it. Muhammad (AS) did it. You embellish, and I speak the truth. From the mouth and hands and through Muhammad, in his lifetime close to a million were guaranteed Paradise. In the only hajj he made, 100,000 ujaj went and all were forgiven.
Now if you think you think you are a follower of Jesus, you have created your own Jesus. It is not Jesus son of Mary, the servant of Allah. I follow him as I follow all prophets, under the leadership of their chairman Muhammad (AS).




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
Here you described Satan. I wish Tonye-T will laugh at this too. No? Its hiarious my his human vision standard.

You don't have to be deceived by satan when you can believe Prophet Jesus who is the Way of the Truth that leads to Life.[/Quote]Even satan deceived Jesus. Jesus also yelled on a supporter, calling him Satan. This is a mature and honest answer from you. You are a liar like Satan, Olaadegbu. You should be ashamed of yourself. E ni itiju kobo. I have to respect your age.





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
I say Lanatullah to Shaitan daily. I say Audhu Illahi minal Shaitani Rajim, daily. Neither is a praise worthy statement. But curses. Do you curse the one you worship; Father, Ghos and Son? Any? This tells you that I dont worship Shaitan. I know you worship Shaitan, by bringing Jesus to be your Lord God. I know that without any doubt.

My mouth has been set aside to bless and not curse. Since you believe that you have to curse and stone satan when you go for your pilgrimage how come multitudes end up dying before they return to their country of abode on a yearly basis? Does this tell you something at all?
[/Quote]Oniro ni eyin man yi. You curse more than a drunken sailor. At best you give return to sender. And anything else, is always worse to worst and watch out people. The curse is flying all over the places.





[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Yesterday at 03:00:53 PM
The advocate who said some other advocate will come after him, whom he called Another Comforter? I am with the Another Comforter. I dont need old news. I am dealing with the last and the latest. It is the most updated version of advocates. Muhammad ibn Abdallah (AS) is quite enough because all the other previous advocates, incuding Isa bin Maryam (AS) are all behind him. He is their leader and following the leade is very comforting. This is an able leader; a true leader. Muhammad's position is guaranteed as the first and the highest in Paradise. Finally where is the throne of the king of Kings and Lord of Lords? We know that Buckingham Palace is that of Queen Elizabeth 2 of the house of Windsor. You must have tied a full or half windsor knots in your Long Neck Ties, before? Where is the throne of your king who was never a king?

The person you call the comforter is he not dead or who is now your comforter who is the last and latest updated advocate?[/Quote]Death is not the end of his mission. We know where he is buried. We have Quran, we have hadith and sunnah, and we have sirah. We dream of him (AS). He is with us. We can point to his grave. We give him salaam and his ahadith say that his soul will be returned to his body to receive it and say it back, He say the Angels bring it and even the angel pray to Allah for the sayer. When you look at mere 20% of 1.5 Bilion people saying it many times a day, the soul really is always intact with the body so that he can receive, and respond (AS). Think Olaadegbu. You are a disappointment because you are not thinking.





[Quote]Is it the one who said that he does not know what will happen to him on Judgment Day?[/Quote]He knows. As a response to his worshiping so much, Allah reveals Surah TaHa to tell him to reduce the amount of his time for night prayers to 1/2 a little more or less of the night. Aisha(RA) said to him ; Oh Messenger, even your future sin (note that future has not came yet) was already forgiven. The messenger says, should Inot be a grateful servant of my Lord?
In the Quran, there are many verses saying the believers will enter Paradise. Do you think the believers are the christians in the Quran? Of course, it is the muslims. Who is the chairman, except Muhammad? Dont be silly. Open your heart for guidance. Guard yourself from evil ways of Trinity and associating anything with God.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:03pm On Oct 13, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu; « #25 on: Today at 11:03:25 AM »I know about adoption. An adopted child of an adoptive parent is a bonafide biological child of his/her birth parent. You are not making sense at all. Even a slave of a man, like you to Jesus is a free born of his parent, like that of yours in Nigeria.

So you are able to comprehend the concept of how God can adopt us without Him having to sleep with a woman. When you accept Jesus who is able to forgive your sins as your personal Lord and Saviour then you will be adopted by God's Holy Spirit as a child of God which is different from a slave.

nopuqeater:

I pray at home; My night prayers (Tahajjud and Qiyammullal), my sunnah, my nafils and when am far away from masjid, my Farida, and when am traveling I shorten the farida and eliminate the Sunnah. These are Mercy from Allah on me, which you dont have a share of. I remember Allah even outside Salah; like right now.

Your holy book, the qur'an in Surah 10:54 says

"Every soul that has sinned, if is possessed all that is on earth, would fain give it ransom",

In other words, if you possessed the whole world and offered it to God as a sacrifice for your sins, it would not be sufficient to provide atonement for your sins. Jesus of Nazareth claimed that He had power on earth to forgive sins (). No other prophet ever made this unique claim except Jesus, why don't you make your peace with Him today?

nopuqeater:

By Allah, you are the absolute loser! I know it and your conscience tells you you are. This is certain for I am a muslim and you are not. I do not deny any prophet (AS), and I do not associate anything with Allah. You do both. Hence, you are the loser. Allah guarantees it, if you remain in your state.

Are you now grasping at straws? I thought you challenged me to quote where your Allah said he can lead people astray and I did, do you not believe your scriptures again? If you do not deny any prophet then prove it by believing what Jesus said that "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me" -- John 14:6 God commands sinners to repent and trust in Jesus as Lord and Saviour, or they will perish.

nopuqeater:

Every Prophet was the way to his nation. Jesus to the Bani Israel between the time of his prophet and just at the beginning of the prophethood of Rasullullah (AS). Musa was the way for his own people between the time of his prophethood and the prophet that succeeded him. Finally, Muhammad (AS) is the way for all nations and people of the world, from between his prophethood and it will end on earth when the last man dies.

Mention one prophet that made the bold claim that they have the power to forgive sins and that they are the way, the truth and the life.

nopuqeater:

Ridiculous statement it is.

You are entitled to your opinion.

nopuqeater:

Muhammad (AS) Allah says in the Quran, in the 2nd to the last verse of Surah Taubah "A messenger has been raised among you people, he is grieved that you do not hurry to belief, and worried that you will be ruined for it. He is a means of Mercy and Forgiveness" In the Battle of Badr, the Muslims who supported the Messenger (AS), were forgiven of all their sins of the past, the present and if in the future the commit any, it is already forgiven. They wer guranteed Jannah. On that occasion they total 333. In another situation, Muhammad announced that 10 people are guaranteed Paradise. In another occasion, Bilal bin Rabah (RA) was informed of his entry to Jannah, by his feet already in it.

You know this well that you are not sure of your salvation until after Judgment even Mo was not sure of what would happen to him. Did you see Surah 10:54 above?

nopuqeater:

In the preparation for Hijr, Asm'aa was guaranteed paradise by Muhammad (AS) for her using part of her waist bad cloth to tie a bg of food. At another time, a man walked into the mosque in Madina and Muhammad (AS) said to the people around him that this man is guaranteed Jannah. Another time, a man said to him: Oh prophet, I want to be close to you in Paradise. The prophet (AS) guaranteed him right there and then. Another time, a man said oh prophet I want to be with you in Paradise. He said to him, worship Allah more and you will. Another time a man kissed his belly and said this part of me that touches the messenger fire will never touch it. He is guaranteed Jannah by the prophet's silence as agreement. Another time, they cupped his back and a man drank it and he said I will never enter Hell with part of the messenger in me.

Have you read the part where Allah promised you guys hell? Mo himself had no guarantee of making it on Judgment Day how can he promise others of making it?

nopuqeater:

The prophet kept silent about the man;s statement, except he discouraged anyone drinking what comes out of cupping. I can give you a ton of stories. Mere saying I can is not like doing it. Muhammad (AS) did it. You embellish, and I speak the truth. From the mouth and hands and through Muhammad, in his lifetime close to a million were guaranteed Paradise. In the only hajj he made, 100,000 ujaj went and all were forgiven.
Now if you think you think you are a follower of Jesus, you have created your own Jesus. It is not Jesus son of Mary, the servant of Allah. I follow him as I follow all prophets, under the leadership of their chairman Muhammad (AS).

You are still alive today and privilege to receive God's mercy, after dead it is a fearful Judge that will not be merciful to those who have rejected His provision of salvation through His Son.

nopuqeater:

Even satan deceived Jesus. Jesus also yelled on a supporter, calling him Satan. This is a mature and honest answer from you. You are a liar like Satan, Olaadegbu. You should be ashamed of yourself. E ni itiju kobo. I have to respect your age.

satan cannot deceive Jesus Christ even though we know satan is the greatest deceiver wink Jesus overcame him by the written and spoken Word of God.

nopuqeater:

Oniro ni eyin man yi. You curse more than a drunken sailor. At best you give return to sender. And anything else, is always worse to worst and watch out people. The curse is flying all over the places.

nopuqeater:

Death is not the end of his mission. We know where he is buried. We have Quran, we have hadith and sunnah, and we have sirah. We dream of him (AS). He is with us. We can point to his grave. We give him salaam and his ahadith say that his soul will be returned to his body to receive it and say it back, He say the Angels bring it and even the angel pray to Allah for the sayer. When you look at mere 20% of 1.5 Bilion people saying it many times a day, the soul really is always intact with the body so that he can receive, and respond (AS). Think Olaadegbu. You are a disappointment because you are not thinking.

You better trust in Him died and rose again and is alive forevermore. He descended to hell and rose to ascend to heaven as is to Judge all sinners on the Judgment Day. Ours sins were judged in Him when He died on the Cross and as many as received Him to them He gave power to become children of God. Let all men be liars God would remain true and faithful. One with God is in the majority.

nopuqeater:

He knows. As a response to his worshiping so much, Allah reveals Surah TaHa to tell him to reduce the amount of his time for night prayers to 1/2 a little more or less of the night. Aisha(RA) said to him ; Oh Messenger, even your future sin (note that future has not came yet) was already forgiven. The messenger says, should Inot be a grateful servant of my Lord?
In the Quran, there are many verses saying the believers will enter Paradise. Do you think the believers are the christians in the Quran? Of course, it is the muslims. Who is the chairman, except Muhammad? Dont be silly. Open your heart for guidance. Guard yourself from evil ways of Trinity and associating anything with God.

If you believe this you better be right.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 5:36pm On Oct 13, 2010
@Olaadegbu: #27 on: Today at 04:03:08 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
@Olaadegbu; « #25 on: Today at 11:03:25 AM »I know about adoption. An adopted child of an adoptive parent is a bonafide biological child of his/her birth parent. You are not making sense at all. Even a slave of a man, like you to Jesus is a free born of his parent, like that of yours in Nigeria.

So you are able to comprehend the concept of how God can adopt us without Him having to sleep with a woman. When you accept Jesus who is able to forgive your sins as your personal Lord and Saviour then you will be adopted by God's Holy Spirit as a child of God which is different from a slave.[/Quote]Good argument is lost on the ignorant. Above I made fun of you. You thought I was praising you. Jesus, you and I are all slaves. You added more to your slavery position by creating a master for yourself from among slaves. No true siblings, of the same mother and father after the children of Adam and Eve sleep with each other or one another. Even they did not sleep with a person from their own particular pregnancy. God is not your dad than me being the brother of my wife. Its all lies. Really.



[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
I pray at home; My night prayers (Tahajjud and Qiyammullal), my sunnah, my nafils and when am far away from masjid, my Farida, and when am traveling I shorten the farida and eliminate the Sunnah. These are Mercy from Allah on me, which you dont have a share of. I remember Allah even outside Salah; like right now.

Your holy book, the qur'an in Surah 10:54 says

"Every soul that has sinned, if is possessed all that is on earth, would fain give it ransom",

In other words, if you possessed the whole world and offered it to God as a sacrifice for your sins, it would not be sufficient to provide atonement for your sins. Jesus of Nazareth claimed that He had power on earth to forgive sins (). No other prophet ever made this unique claim except Jesus, why don't you make your peace with Him today?
[/Quote]And the same book says Allah forgives all sins. And shirk which is what you are in since God is 3 in your mind and Jesus is one of them and the mating ghost is another, is forgiven when you abandon such an idea and accept in truth that Allah is your Lord God Creator Alone.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
By Allah, you are the absolute loser! I know it and your conscience tells you you are. This is certain for I am a muslim and you are not. I do not deny any prophet (AS), and I do not associate anything with Allah. You do both. Hence, you are the loser. Allah guarantees it, if you remain in your state.

Are you now grasping at straws? I thought you challenged me to quote where your Allah said he can lead people astray and I did, do you not believe your scriptures again? If you do not deny any prophet then prove it by believing what Jesus said that "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me" -- John 14:6 God commands sinners to repent and trust in Jesus as Lord and Saviour, or they will perish.[/Quote]Those who are lead astray are people like you; Surah Maryam is something you should read. Muslims are not led astray. They are guided. Surah Fatiha says that. The whole of Quran says that. Your quoting John to support your argument should really lead you to that Prophet and the Another Comforter who will guide you to all things, what he hears only it shall he speak, he shall correct the wrongs, because no one correct what is correct already and glorify Jesus and his mother away from the filth of the mouth of the Jews and shall abide with us for ever by his known material sources; Quran, authentic Hadith and Sunnah. Who is the "That Prophet, and who is the Another Comforter"?




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Every Prophet was the way to his nation. Jesus to the Bani Israel between the time of his prophet and just at the beginning of the prophethood of Rasullullah (AS). Musa was the way for his own people between the time of his prophethood and the prophet that succeeded him. Finally, Muhammad (AS) is the way for all nations and people of the world, from between his prophethood and it will end on earth when the last man dies.

Mention one prophet that made the bold claim that they have the power to forgive sins and that they are the way, the truth and the life.[/Quote]Moses. He said follow me. Those who followed him crossed the sea in safety. Those who pursued him perished in the same sea. Muhammad said so. Allah says in The Quran in many places that he should "Say. If you love Allah follow me, obey me and Allah will love you and He will forgive you your sins and make your ways easy". "Say. I am the messenger of Allah and there is no god but God (Allah; your Lord God Creator)" I can continue until the cow comes home. Muhammad was mentioned as the means of Forgiveness and Mercy in Surah Taubah. You need to go read Quran and let your heart open to True Guidance. Guard yourself away from the Pit that you are heading. I'm telling you. It is a destination of disaster for saying God is 3rd, or God does not exist, alone.



[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Ridiculous statement it is.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Muhammad (AS) Allah says in the Quran, in the 2nd to the last verse of Surah Taubah "A messenger has been raised among you people, he is grieved that you do not hurry to belief, and worried that you will be ruined for it. He is a means of Mercy and Forgiveness" In the Battle of Badr, the Muslims who supported the Messenger (AS), were forgiven of all their sins of the past, the present and if in the future the commit any, it is already forgiven. They wer guranteed Jannah. On that occasion they total 333. In another situation, Muhammad announced that 10 people are guaranteed Paradise. In another occasion, Bilal bin Rabah (RA) was informed of his entry to Jannah, by his feet already in it.

You know this well that you are not sure of your salvation until after Judgment even Mo was not sure of what would happen to him. Did you see Surah 10:54 above?[/Quote]By Allah, i'm sure. Read Surah Fajr. The 3 last verses. You live in fantasy world, Olaadegbu. Certainly, it is fantasy when you take a servant for a Lord.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
In the preparation for Hijr, Asm'aa was guaranteed paradise by Muhammad (AS) for her using part of her waist bad cloth to tie a bg of food. At another time, a man walked into the mosque in Madina and Muhammad (AS) said to the people around him that this man is guaranteed Jannah. Another time, a man said to him: Oh prophet, I want to be close to you in Paradise. The prophet (AS) guaranteed him right there and then. Another time, a man said oh prophet I want to be with you in Paradise. He said to him, worship Allah more and you will. Another time a man kissed his belly and said this part of me that touches the messenger fire will never touch it. He is guaranteed Jannah by the prophet's silence as agreement. Another time, they cupped his back and a man drank it and he said I will never enter Hell with part of the messenger in me.

Have you read the part where Allah promised you guys hell? Mo himself had no guarantee of making it on Judgment Day how can he promise others of making it?[/Quote]There is no part that says all Muslims will go to Hell. There are parts that says all non muslims will go to hell. And if you wager with me, I will return the wager. WHo ever is wrong, will go to the religion of the one who is correct. I will quote Quran for you, when you are ready. Please quote yours because I am ready. But you must accept my challenge first. Today is your day. Olaadegbu. You put up or forever shut up.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
The prophet kept silent about the man;s statement, except he discouraged anyone drinking what comes out of cupping. I can give you a ton of stories. Mere saying I can is not like doing it. Muhammad (AS) did it. You embellish, and I speak the truth. From the mouth and hands and through Muhammad, in his lifetime close to a million were guaranteed Paradise. In the only hajj he made, 100,000 ujaj went and all were forgiven.
Now if you think you think you are a follower of Jesus, you have created your own Jesus. It is not Jesus son of Mary, the servant of Allah. I follow him as I follow all prophets, under the leadership of their chairman Muhammad (AS).

You are still alive today and privilege to receive God's mercy, after dead it is a fearful Judge that will not be merciful to those who have rejected His provision of salvation through His Son.[/Quote]My Creator has no son. And Jesus has nothing to do with my being alive or when my time of death will come. Continue to hide behind a single finger.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Even satan deceived Jesus. Jesus also yelled on a supporter, calling him Satan. This is a mature and honest answer from you. You are a liar like Satan, Olaadegbu. You should be ashamed of yourself. E ni itiju kobo. I have to respect your age.

satan cannot deceive Jesus Christ even though we know satan is the greatest deceiver Wink Jesus overcame him by the written and spoken Word of God.[/Quote}Sure he did. Read it again. If I just use one of the temptations, you will be a complete blind man and deaf person whose heart is dead not to know that Satan played Jesus of the Bible. You said Jesus is the Creator or through him everything was created. He aught to know and speak up, to defend his honor when satan said, "I have authority on all these earthly things, (This alone is enough since Jesus just kept quite. It cant happen to me if I were in his shows. No prophet had been played like that. Not the warrior Moses, and not the one like him , Muhammad (AS)). Satan continued "bow to worship me, and all of these are yours". Again a condition of authority. Jesus finally responded that " A servant shall not worship another servant (though rebellious) but must worship God, Alone". Jesus is a servant who is committed to worshiping his Lord. This I give him. But you call him The Lord that he clearly says that he must worship! How com, Olaadegbu?
Quran says, "The plan of Satan is weak/futile". You dont have this authority over satan because he seduced your prophet. And by Allah satan will not seduce me.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Oniro ni eyin man yi. You curse more than a drunken sailor. At best you give return to sender. And anything else, is always worse to worst and watch out people. The curse is flying all over the places.

Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
Death is not the end of his mission. We know where he is buried. We have Quran, we have hadith and sunnah, and we have sirah. We dream of him (AS). He is with us. We can point to his grave. We give him salaam and his ahadith say that his soul will be returned to his body to receive it and say it back, He say the Angels bring it and even the angel pray to Allah for the sayer. When you look at mere 20% of 1.5 Bilion people saying it many times a day, the soul really is always intact with the body so that he can receive, and respond (AS). Think Olaadegbu. You are a disappointment because you are not thinking.

You better trust in Him died and rose again and is alive forevermore. He descended to hell and rose to ascend to heaven as is to Judge all sinners on the Judgment Day. Ours sins were judged in Him when He died on the Cross and as many as received Him to them He gave power to become children of God. Let all men be liars God would remain true and faithful. One with God is in the majority.[/Quote]Adam is dead. So is Enoch. So is Noah who God wiped off on the face of the earth because of his asking in prayer. Abraham is dead. Isaac is dead. Jacob is dead. The Bible said he fought God and mankind and won. Joseph is dead. Moses is dead. He spoke to God. The Bible said he was God. Others died. Some people were presumed dead and they came back to life. This is even in this time and day. Even with all the medical advances, they rise up. Are they not better or at least equal to Jesus, who in the crudest of medical time and day, they missed the true state of his collapsing, fainting, or comatose condition.




[Quote]Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 02:39:52 PM
He knows. As a response to his worshiping so much, Allah reveals Surah TaHa to tell him to reduce the amount of his time for night prayers to 1/2 a little more or less of the night. Aisha(RA) said to him ; Oh Messenger, even your future sin (note that future has not came yet) was already forgiven. The messenger says, should Inot be a grateful servant of my Lord?
In the Quran, there are many verses saying the believers will enter Paradise. Do you think the believers are the christians in the Quran? Of course, it is the muslims. Who is the chairman, except Muhammad? Dont be silly. Open your heart for guidance. Guard yourself from evil ways of Trinity and associating anything with God.

If you believe this you better be right.[/Quote]By Allah. I am certainly right. Just to let you know, as am type Allah has answered my prayer. Just this moment. So I will make a Sajdah Shukr to Allah. [/quote]
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:54pm On Oct 14, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu: #27 on: Today at 04:03:08 PM »Good argument is lost on the ignorant. Above I made fun of you. You thought I was praising you. Jesus, you and I are all slaves. You added more to your slavery position by creating a master for yourself from among slaves. No true siblings, of the same mother and father after the children of Adam and Eve sleep with each other or one another. Even they did not sleep with a person from their own particular pregnancy. God is not your dad than me being the brother of my wife. Its all lies. Really.

If you insist on being a slave it is your choice.

nopuqeater:

And the same book says Allah forgives all sins. And shirk which is what you are in since God is 3 in your mind and Jesus is one of them and the mating ghost is another, is forgiven when you abandon such an idea and accept in truth that Allah is your Lord God Creator Alone.

It is the same qur'an that says "Every soul that has sinned, if is possessed all that is on earth, would fain give it ransom", S.10:54
You better ask your mullah tomorrow if you are erroneously thinking that Allah gives any assurance of salvation other than by dying in Jihad.

nopuqeater:

Those who are lead astray are people like you; Surah Maryam is something you should read. Muslims are not led astray. They are guided. Surah Fatiha says that. The whole of Quran says that. Your quoting John to support your argument should really lead you to that Prophet and the Another Comforter who will guide you to all things, what he hears only it shall he speak, he shall correct the wrongs, because no one correct what is correct already and glorify Jesus and his mother away from the filth of the mouth of the Jews and shall abide with us for ever by his known material sources; Quran, authentic Hadith and Sunnah. Who is the "That Prophet, and who is the Another Comforter"?

If you read your hadiths well you will come across the place where Mohammad said

"By Allah, though I am the apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me" -- Vol.5 No.266

This is Mohammad being sincere about his fate, not knowing what will befall him and you guys are mortgaging your eternity on him. undecided

nopuqeater:

Moses. He said follow me. Those who followed him crossed the sea in safety. Those who pursued him perished in the same sea. Muhammad said so. Allah says in The Quran in many places that he should "Say. If you love Allah follow me, obey me and Allah will love you and He will forgive you your sins and make your ways easy". "Say. I am the messenger of Allah and there is no god but God (Allah; your Lord God Creator)" I can continue until the cow comes home. Muhammad was mentioned as the means of Forgiveness and Mercy in Surah Taubah. You need to go read Quran and let your heart open to True Guidance. Guard yourself away from the Pit that you are heading. I'm telling you. It is a destination of disaster for saying God is 3rd, or God does not exist, alone.

Moses gave instructions to Israel to shed the blood of a spotless lamb to provide a temporary atonement for their sin.  Jesus was the Lamb that God provided to make atonement for the sins of the world, including yours and mine.  Through faith in Jesus Christ you can have atonement with God.  All your sin can be washed away once and for all and God will grant you the gift of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ on the basis of His death and resurrection.

nopuqeater:

By Allah, i'm sure. Read Surah Fajr. The 3 last verses. You live in fantasy world, Olaadegbu. Certainly, it is fantasy when you take a servant for a Lord.

Jesus alone can save you, there is no other name given among men through whom we can be saved.  Mohammad is dead and his tomb is occupied but the tomb of Jesus Christ is empty because His alive and is willing and able to give you eternal life.

nopuqeater:

There is no part that says all Muslims will go to Hell. There are parts that says all non muslims will go to hell. And if you wager with me, I will return the wager. WHo ever is wrong, will go to the religion of the one who is correct. I will quote Quran for you, when you are ready. Please quote yours because I am ready. But you must accept my challenge first. Today is your day. Olaadegbu. You put up or forever shut up.

It looks as if you don't even know what your quran, hadiths and sunnahs says.  Look at Surah 19:70-72

Surah.19:70 (Asad) for, indeed, We know best as to which of them is most deserving of the fires of hell. 

Surah 19:71 (Asad) And every one of you will come within sight of it: this is, with thy Sustainer, a decree that must be fulfilled.

Surah.19:72 (Asad) And once again: We shall save [from hell] those who have been conscious of Us; but We shall leave in it the evildoers, on their knees.

19:70 (Y. Ali) And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.

19:71 (Y. Ali) Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.

19:72 (Y. Ali) But We shall save those who guarded against evil, and We shall leave the wrong-doers therein, (humbled) to their knees.

You can see from the highlighted sentence in verses 71 and 72 that Allah has guaranteed that all of you will be in hell before he decides to rescue whom he will.

nopuqeater:

My Creator has no son. And Jesus has nothing to do with my being alive or when my time of death will come. Continue to hide behind a single finger.

It is either you confess Him now or after death.  At the His name every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.

nopuqeater:

Adam is dead. So is Enoch. So is Noah who God wiped off on the face of the earth because of his asking in prayer. Abraham is dead. Isaac is dead. Jacob is dead. The Bible said he fought God and mankind and won. Joseph is dead. Moses is dead. He spoke to God. The Bible said he was God. Others died. Some people were presumed dead and they came back to life. This is even in this time and day. Even with all the medical advances, they rise up. Are they not better or at least equal to Jesus, who in the crudest of medical time and day, they missed the true state of his collapsing, fainting, or comatose condition.

Jesus is the only One who died and rose again never to die again and that is why you can put your hope in Him if you want to be eternally alive you will have to trust Him when He says that "I am the way, the truth and the life"

nopuqeater:

By Allah. I am certainly right. Just to let you know, as am type Allah has answered my prayer. Just this moment. So I will make a Sajdah Shukr to Allah.

You better be right because the consequence of being wrong will be fatal.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by nopuqeater: 4:03pm On Oct 14, 2010
@Olaadegbu: « #29 on: Today at 01:54:13 PM »
[Quote] If you insist on being a slave it is your choice.[/Quote]If you insist calling something your father, while you deny the Yoruba man that mom loves so much, it is your choice. But we know whose DNA is in your system.


[Quote] It is the same qur'an that says "Every soul that has sinned, if is possessed all that is on earth, would fain give it ransom", S.10:54
You better ask your mullah tomorrow if you are erroneously thinking that Allah gives any assurance of salvation other than by dying in Jihad.[/Quote]While you are playing deceit, Alhamdulillah, I am a grown man who can research, can read, can understand. Allah gives me good understanding. So keep your wanna be god for yourself. I'm not buying condemned, cursed soul. I see that your missionary deceit is to remove words, or word so that it fits your "lying to the musims is good" agenda. Below is verse 54 of Surah Yunus;

And if every person who had wronged (by disbelieving in Allah and by worshiping others besides Allah), possessed all that is on earth, and sought to ransom himself therewith (it will not be accepted), and they would feel in their hearts regret when they see the torment, and they will be judged with justice, and no wrong will be done unto them.



[Quote]If you read your hadiths well you will come across the place where Mohammad said

"By Allah, though I am the apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me" -- Vol.5 No.266[/Quote]Could you tell me in all of the above where Hell fire is mentioned as the place of all muslims? Could you tell me in the above where it is mentioned that Paradise is forbidden to Muslims? I throw you a gauntlet. You are a grown man. Accept it or be quite. The jig is up on you. And my Lord is Allah, you Jesus worshiper. You know Jesus is a clone of his mother? Just like Eve was clone of Adam. Both came out as the opposite gender. While Eve was manufacture outside, hence she has to be whole, ready to be a woman, Jesus on the other hand was manufactured in the mother's tummy, not ready to be a man, but must go through the gestation stages and come out, finally as a baby to be nursed to strength.



[Quote]This is Mohammad being sincere about his fate, not knowing what will befall him and you guys are mortgaging your eternity on him. Undecided[/Quote]Stay undecided. Its the best state for you. You remind me of the people of the height, in Surah Araf. But in your case, Paradise is forbidden to you. That is if you die as a christian. When you are ready for the challenge, I will give you nothing less than 50 Verses of Quran talking about paradise for believers and hell for your type, the disbelievers, InshaAlah. Just say when. Okay.



[Quote]Moses gave instructions to Israel to shed the blood of a spotless lamb to provide a temporary atonement for their sin. Jesus was the Lamb that God provided to make atonement for the sins of the world, including yours and mine. Through faith in Jesus Christ you can have atonement with God. All your sin can be washed away once and for all and God will grant you the gift of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ on the basis of His death and resurrection.[/Quote]I wo lo mo ese to nshe tii juu nilati para e fune. No be me and you o. I am free from what you say. I am a muslim, bowing my will to Allah. Live in your delusion and clamor on spilling blood, graduating from animal, according to you, above to a man. Allah through Muhammad (AS) removed the veil between He and I. My supplication, my repentance, etc, go to Him directly. I do not have a baal, or a jesus or maharaji, or buhhdah or ifa between Us.



[Quote]Jesus alone can save you, there is no other name given among men through whom we can be saved. Mohammad is dead and his tomb is occupied but the tomb of Jesus Christ is empty because His alive and is willing and able to give you eternal life.[/Quote]Jesus couldn't save himself from people carrying billy club, like british bobbies. Today's angry mobs carry bazooka, and those type of deadly weapons. If its a country, she uses unmanned bombers, etc. How is jesus going to manage it now, if he failed then? Dont make me laugh, ogbeni. Muhammad (AS) is dead. We both agreed. That has nothing to do with his being a Messenger, a Prophet, because the same happened to many of them. Muhammad is in good company. Further his being the "That prophet", "The Another Comforter" is confirmed by the Presence of Quran and hadith wa Sunnah, and his Sirah till date.



[Quote]It looks as if you don't even know what your quran, hadiths and sunnahs says. Look at Surah 19:70-72

Surah.19:70 (Asad) for, indeed, We know best as to which of them is most deserving of the fires of hell.

Surah 19:71 (Asad) And every one of you will come within sight of it: this is, with thy Sustainer, a decree that must be fulfilled.

Surah.19:72 (Asad) And once again: We shall save [from hell] those who have been conscious of Us; but We shall leave in it the evildoers, on their knees.[/Quote]Lets just agree for sake of satisfying your soul that this is what the verses said. Please read where it says "Only Muslims" are being addressed here, alout. Can you find it? Its not there. Is that not the truth? If an wrong, please present your proof. Again, if you notice that it says in verse 72 that some people will be brought out of hell. These people are the ones conscious of Allah (US). What about the rest in hell fire who are unconscious of Allah (US)? Are they ever to get out of Hell fire? Olaadegbu; you are one of these unconscious of Allah group. Arent you doomed, now?

Now is my turn to present the truth, since all you can do, sir is to lie:

19:66 And the disbeliever says, "When I have died, am I going to be brought forth alive?"

19:67 Does not man remember that We created him before, while he was nothing?

19:68 So by your Lord, surely, We shall gather them [disbelievers among mankind is appropriate. But if you wish since you want to force Muslims among it, Mankind; you are one. all human christians are] together, and (also) the Shayatin (devils) (with them), then We shall bring them round Hell on their knees.

19:69 Then indeed We shall drag out from every [Christians, Jews, Muslims, and others religons or those who say there is no religion as well. If you wish Olaadegbu, it may the leaders of disbelief among them you wish to refer. Hence paul from Christianity and those who accept Pauls idea. From the Jews, those who go against the ways of Moses, if you wanna choose Moses as the perfect worshiping Jew. And in Islam, those we call hypocrites (munafiqqun)] sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against the Most Beneficent (Allah).

19:70 Then, surely it is We who are most knowing of those most worthy of burning therein.

19:71 There is not one of you [all mankind] but will pass over it (Hell); this is with your Lord; a Decree which must be accomplished.

19:72 Then We shall save [Preventing them from falling into, going into, being overcome by, etc it] those who use to fear Allah and were dutiful to Him [so that their passage of that journey on the passover shall be a success]. And We shall leave the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers, etc.) therein (humbled) to their knees (in Hell) [after the failed to cross the pass over in safety, but fall off and end up in hell].

19:73 And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Which of [our] two parties is best in position and best in association?"



[Quote]19:70 (Y. Ali) And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.

19:71 (Y. Ali) Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.

19:72 (Y. Ali) But We shall save those who guarded against evil, and We shall leave the wrong-doers therein, (humbled) to their knees.

You can see from the highlighted sentence in verses 71 and 72 that Allah has guaranteed that all of you will be in hell before he decides to rescue whom he will.[/Quote]Read the truth just above. You will see that it is talking your kind of body and soul. Am sure you will wear a black suit, white shirt and some long neck tie to the coffin. Do you wear glasses, man? All of the fancy clothing; each one of them will be consumed by Fire of Hell. Let me excite you to reality. You think Adam was tall. people fo hell will be tall and meaty. All of it to be consumed by Fire. And it will start all over again. You know now.



[Quote]It is either you confess Him now or after death. At the His name every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.[/QUote]You are funny. Thats all I can say. Proof that you are lying; Adam died without saying anything about Jesus. Enoch the same. Noah the same. I know that based on the Bible, melchezdekeh is hanging around somewhere. In all of these times, he is hiding in the Bible, I think. The point am making is that he didnt confess about Jesus or anything. So is Ibrahim. Ishmael, Isaac his baby brother. Jacob, Esau his big brother, Joseph who people actually bowed to; jacob and the whole family, including Judah did, did not confess about Jesus. Who confessed about Jesus that is note worthy? No one. John and his father, neither did. Muhammad (AS), didnt. So what is your game?



[Quote]Jesus is the only One who died and rose again never to die again and that is why you can put your hope in Him if you want to be eternally alive you will have to trust Him when He says that "I am the way, the truth and the life"[/Quote]The fact that you said he died, kicked him out of the God box. And his been lifted up to heaven was not by his power, since he said he had none. Continue to lie to yourself. My challenge is standing. Muhammad (AS) is today's till end of time's "ONLY WAY".



[Quote]You better be right because the consequence of being wrong will be fatal.[/Quote]Dont worry about me. be concern with yourself; you will never enter Paradise. Never if you die as a non muslim.
Re: Ten People Who Sold Their Soul To The Devil. by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:49pm On Oct 15, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu: « #29 on: Today at 01:54:13 PM »If you insist calling something your father, while you deny the Yoruba man that mom loves so much, it is your choice. But we know whose DNA is in your system.

If you are born once you die twice and if you get born twice to only get to die once.  I'm blessed with both a natural father and a heavenly Father who has redeemed me and passed me from darkness to light and from death to eternal life.

nopuqeater:

While you are playing deceit, Alhamdulillah, I am a grown man who can research, can read, can understand. Allah gives me good understanding. So keep your wanna be god for yourself. I'm not buying condemned, cursed soul. I see that your missionary deceit is to remove words, or word so that it fits your "lying to the musims is good" agenda. Below is verse 54 of Surah Yunus;
And if every person who had wronged (by disbelieving in Allah and by worshiping others besides Allah), possessed all that is on earth, and sought to ransom himself therewith (it will not be accepted), and they would feel in their hearts regret when they see the torment, and they will be judged with justice, and no wrong will be done unto them.

What is the difference with what I quoted?  The main essence is that you cannot redeem your soul even Mohammad did not have the assurance of his salvation on the Day of Judgment.

nopuqeater:

Could you tell me in all of the above where Hell fire is mentioned as the place of all muslims? Could you tell me in the above where it is mentioned that Paradise is forbidden to Muslims? I throw you a gauntlet. You are a grown man. Accept it or be quite. The jig is up on you. And my Lord is Allah, you Jesus worshiper. You know Jesus is a clone of his mother? Just like Eve was clone of Adam. Both came out as the opposite gender. While Eve was manufacture outside, hence she has to be whole, ready to be a woman, Jesus on the other hand was manufactured in the mother's tummy, not ready to be a man, but must go through the gestation stages and come out, finally as a baby to be nursed to strength.

I quoted your hadith where Mohammad said that he is not sure of his destination and you are still blindly believing that you will not end up in hell.  I do not wish my enemies to end up there either but your decision will determine where you will spend your eternity.

nopuqeater:

Stay undecided. Its the best state for you. You remind me of the people of the height, in Surah Araf. But in your case, Paradise is forbidden to you. That is if you die as a christian. When you are ready for the challenge, I will give you nothing less than 50 Verses of Quran talking about paradise for believers and hell for your type, the disbelievers, InshaAlah. Just say when. Okay.

At least you will not say that your quran and hadiths did not forewarn you on that day.  You are responsible for every decision you make.

nopuqeater:

I wo lo mo ese to nshe tii juu nilati para e fune. No be me and you o. I am free from what you say. I am a muslim, bowing my will to Allah. Live in your delusion and clamor on spilling blood, graduating from animal, according to you, above to a man. Allah through Muhammad (AS) removed the veil between He and I. My supplication, my repentance, etc, go to Him directly. I do not have a baal, or a jesus or maharaji, or buhhdah or ifa between Us.

Why do you perform id el ata (pardon my spelling) and why is it done in 3 parts if you know?

nopuqeater:

Jesus couldn't save himself from people carrying billy club, like british bobbies. Today's angry mobs carry bazooka, and those type of deadly weapons. If its a country, she uses unmanned bombers, etc. How is jesus going to manage it now, if he failed then? Dont make me laugh, ogbeni. Muhammad (AS) is dead. We both agreed. That has nothing to do with his being a Messenger, a Prophet, because the same happened to many of them. Muhammad is in good company. Further his being the "That prophet", "The Another Comforter" is confirmed by the Presence of Quran and hadith wa Sunnah, and his Sirah till date.

So you believe a dead Mohammad is a better guide than the risen Christ who is alive forever?  The First Coming of Jesus Christ was to save, justify, cleanse, purify, redeem, deliver and transform.  At His Second Coming He is coming to smite, judge, conquer, punish, reign, destroy and thresh the winepress of God's wrath.  His action in His Second Coming would be to smite, not to save; to destroy, not to develop; to crush, not to cleanse; to eliminate, not to enlighten; to punish, not to purify; to judge, not to justify; to reign, not to redeem.

All the kingdoms of the world are transitory but the Kingdom of Christ alone will remain forever.  As history has affirmed the truth of the prophecy, all the preceeding empires have swallowed up each other successively but Christ's Kingdom shall stand forever.  All the kingdoms and empires established by human hands shall be destroyed but the kingdom established "without hands" shall abide forever. (Daniel 2:34,35,44,45; 4:3,34; 7:13,14,27).

nopuqeater:

Lets just agree for sake of satisfying your soul that this is what the verses said. Please read where it says "Only Muslims" are being addressed here, alout. Can you find it? Its not there. Is that not the truth? If an wrong, please present your proof. Again, if you notice that it says in verse 72 that some people will be brought out of hell. These people are the ones conscious of Allah (US). What about the rest in hell fire who are unconscious of Allah (US)? Are they ever to get out of Hell fire? Olaadegbu; you are one of these unconscious of Allah group. Arent you doomed, now?
19:70 Then, surely it is We who are most knowing of those most worthy of burning therein.

19:71 There is not one of you [all mankind] but will pass over it (Hell); this is with your Lord; a Decree which must be accomplished.

19:72 Then We shall save [Preventing them from falling into, going into, being overcome by, etc it] those who use to fear Allah and were dutiful to Him [so that their passage of that journey on the passover shall be a success]. And We shall leave the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers, etc.) therein (humbled) to their knees (in Hell) [after the failed to cross the pass over in safety, but fall off and end up in hell].

19:73 And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Which of [our] two parties is best in position and best in association?"

You can see here again that Allah has promised to take you to hell and you still trust him to deliver you from hell?  Mohammad had no assurance of his salvation, the only guarantee promised you is that you will be pass through hell fire and you still trust Allah to take you out, why go into hell in the first place?  Why not follow Jesus who died and is now alive in Heaven and has promised to take us to where He is?

nopuqeater:

Read the truth just above. You will see that it is talking your kind of body and soul. Am sure you will wear a black suit, white shirt and some long neck tie to the coffin. Do you wear glasses, man? All of the fancy clothing; each one of them will be consumed by Fire of Hell. Let me excite you to reality. You think Adam was tall. people fo hell will be tall and meaty. All of it to be consumed by Fire. And it will start all over again. You know now.

I wonder why you are so filled with hatred for mankind, wishing that they be consumed by the fires of hell.  My God does not want anyone to perish in hell but that they repent and abide with Him eternally.

nopuqeater:

You are funny. Thats all I can say. Proof that you are lying; Adam died without saying anything about Jesus. Enoch the same. Noah the same. I know that based on the Bible, melchezdekeh is hanging around somewhere. In all of these times, he is hiding in the Bible, I think. The point am making is that he didnt confess about Jesus or anything. So is Ibrahim. Ishmael, Isaac his baby brother. Jacob, Esau his big brother, Joseph who people actually bowed to; jacob and the whole family, including Judah did, did not confess about Jesus. Who confessed about Jesus that is note worthy? No one. John and his father, neither did. Muhammad (AS), didnt. So what is your game?

At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.

nopuqeater:

The fact that you said he died, kicked him out of the God box. And his been lifted up to heaven was not by his power, since he said he had none. Continue to lie to yourself. My challenge is standing. Muhammad (AS) is today's till end of time's "ONLY WAY".

Even satan could not fathom how God could do this.  The fact is that Jesus died and is now alive with all power in heaven and earth, He will be the Judge on that Day.

nopuqeater:

Dont worry about me. be concern with yourself; you will never enter Paradise. Never if you die as a non muslim.

At least you got that part right.  I do not wish to enter into your promised Jana'at, flowing with alcohol and sex sin assemblies with virgins.

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