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Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 10:14pm On Oct 10, 2010
why do i think this is a bad time to be fashola? cheesy cheesy
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by cold(m): 10:14pm On Oct 10, 2010
'What i'll advise you now is to get in your car & leave'.Who else saw that guy bleeding Serious stuff  shocked
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by IBEXY(m): 10:15pm On Oct 10, 2010
Despite me being ashamed of the facts emerging, I think it was necessary to expose the corrupt and criminal power in government in our beloved country. Some foreigners dont believe Nigeria is poor. They here think we are all oil rich.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 10:15pm On Oct 10, 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11500370







Law and disorder in Lagos

Louis Theroux investigates just who wields the power on the streets of Lagos in Nigeria - and it's not the police.

By the standards of Lagos the house is palatial.

Set over three floors, it stands behind an electric gate protecting the shiny new cars parked in the drive, one of them a Hummer. Inside, the walls are hung with large photos in gilt frames depicting the owner, a handsome young Nigerian. In several he stands next to famous city dignitaries.
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Elsewhere there are flat-screen TVs, marble-tiled walls, even a small private mosque. But if anything gives the sense of someone with a taste for the finer things in life, it's the collection of designer shoes in his penthouse suite, 50 or 60 pairs filling one corner.

The man whose house it is goes by several monikers, the simplest being "MC". On a tour of the property, accompanied by MC and his enthusiastic young aide Mammok, I remarked on the abundance of shoes.

"He's a very fashionable person," says Mammok, as MC nodded approvingly. "And he does his shopping in Italy."

Considering his glamorous and upscale existence, MC's day job is surprisingly prosaic. Officially, he is an executive in the city's transportation union. With between 15 and 17 million residents - most of whom do not own a private vehicle - Lagos's buses are its lifeblood.

Each bus conductor has to pay union dues every day for the right to use the bus parks, as do the city's thousands of motorbike taxis and other commercial vehicles. This money is handled by the union, of which MC is the Lagos State Treasurer.

Louis Theroux runs into trouble as he attends a march to celebrate elections in Lagos, Nigeria

This on its own would guarantee MC a decent income. But in the area of Lagos over which MC has direct control - a rowdy, bustling district called Oshodi - he is much more than simply a union boss, something closer to a king - raising unofficial and semi-legal tolls on all those who want to do business, and ruling it, so the stories go, with an army of battle-ready youths.

Legend

I'd got to know MC as part of a documentary called Law and Disorder in Lagos, in which I was hoping to understand how power is exercised and order kept in one of Africa's most chaotic big cities. For me, MC seemed an exemplar of a certain kind of charismatic and informal authority, and I was trying to understand the man and the source of his power.

Of his glamorous, celebrity-type existence, there was much evidence. Always decked out in fashionable clothes, a hat cocked at a jaunty angle, he'd arrive at a smart social function, or possibly a celebration at a local mosque, donate thick wads of cash. Then he'd leave amid a mini-riot of local youths, all clamouring for a glimpse of the man and, if possible, a hand-out.

MC's generosity was legendary. Indeed, one member of his entourage was a Nollywood [the term for Nigeria's domestic film-making business] actor of some fame - on MC's payroll, seemingly, because he was having difficulty finding work.
"MC" MC's ordinary-sounding job title belies the power he wields

What was harder to see and understand was the use MC made of the armies of semi-employed youths, known as "area boys". Though MC was an elected official in a legitimate institution, it was widely understood that his position in the union owed as much to his ability to control the streets and command the respect of local toughs who would do his bidding.

Within his domain it was hard to overestimate the power of MC. He was even rumoured to have the ear of the Lagos top man, Governor Fashola.

One afternoon, MC's aide Mammok agreed to show me around the area MC controlled. He pointed out a pair of young men entrusted with taking cash from motorbike taxis. One obligingly showed me the day's takings, a wad folded in his palm.

Then he introduced me to a woman stall holder selling a small pile of goods on a blanket. When I asked if she knew MC she looked rather frightened and shook her head.

"It's more of a political thing," says Mammok, explaining her reticence. "You wouldn't expect her to tell you that. They have to play politics."

Blood

I'd been told that one of the services MC provided to the business-owners on his patch was "protection". But protection from whom? "The police cannot harass them," says Mammok. "That is the primary thing. Sometimes - all over the world - the police can be very very overzealous."

As time went on, and I came to know MC and his organisation better, I got more of these glimpses of the shadowy, less strictly legal side of his world.

As it happened, a few days into my visit, MC's status as union treasurer was challenged by political rivals and he was forced to call an election to reaffirm his position.
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   * Louis Theroux - Law and Disorder in Lagos

On the day of voting, I turned up at the polls to find a ragtag army of MC's supporters, some holding broken bottles, with blood running from fresh cuts, as they jogged along behind his four-by-four in support.

Skirmishes were reported - an opposition gang was rumoured to be in the area - which may explain why someone began firing a shotgun from MC's car. And yet the whole election had a touch of absurdity to it, given no other candidate had the courage - or possibly the opportunity - to come forward. MC had run unopposed.

I relaxed afterwards at the victory celebrations, which were no less jolly for having been a foregone conclusion. Police in uniform drank beer and one drunkenly fired his pistol in the air.

'Private fiefdom'

Mammok was - understandably - protective of MC's reputation and not keen to talk about the occasional need to rely on street violence or the details of a business that, viewed unkindly, was a glorified protection racket.
Motorbike taxis Thousands of motorbike taxis fill the streets of Lagos

"The ways of the Caribbeans are not the ways of the Americans," he says when I probed him on the subject. "It has become like a way of life in this part of the world."

When I asked him if it seemed a good system to him to have someone in charge of an area holding a king-like sway over his private fiefdom, he compared MC with the Queen of England, suggesting MC was not so different.

The truth is, in my time with him, I'd grown oddly fond of MC. Granted, the occasional street brawls and the lack of accountability might be taken as a frightening and perhaps depressing symptom of the weakness of the social contract in Lagos.

But in the absence of dependable police, MC and his boys did actually seem to do the job of keeping law and order - up to a point anyway.

For now it may be that in areas like Oshodi, MC and his brand of area boy-based authority are the best they can hope for.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Kobojunkie: 10:16pm On Oct 10, 2010
Anyone seen the previous episodes . . . .

Law and disorder in Philadelphia

Law and disorder in Johannesburg

etc
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 10:20pm On Oct 10, 2010



you can't be hating on a big boy cheesy cheesy cheesy

naija and flossing cheesy cheesy
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by ponytail: 10:20pm On Oct 10, 2010
IBEXY:

Here goes ,
I cant understand the mindset of people like this. Is there anything to be proud about what we just saw? Because there are gangs in New York justifies us having area boys working with state governors to extort money from people and unleash a reign of terror on innocent citizens?

hi ibexxy, to explain the mindset of 'people like this', its nothing to be proud of (and that definitely is not rocket science) But on the other hand, some people just get tired of how people seem to enjoy sensationalizing Lagos and the crap that goes on there. Are street gangs a good thing? No. Are they unique to Lagos? No.

I'm tired of people pointing fingers like their own communities are issue-free. I'm not supportive of it but personally, its a 'you kick my dog, then you kick me' situation

About Fashola fratenizing with the area boys, I can only imagine that for the State government, it might be a question of the lesser of two evils, completing alienating the area boys and leaving them to run riot, or having a 'leadership' albeit corrupt that they can use as a conduit to the rest of the area boys.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by DisGuy: 10:24pm On Oct 10, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Anyone seen the previous episodes . . . .

Law and disorder in Philadelphia

Law and disorder in Johannesburg

etc

saw the dvd details the other day.  .  . Law and Disorder DVD

Series of four documentaries with the wide-eyed, inquisitive broadcaster examining different approaches to law and order.

In 'Johannesburg' Louis travels to one of the most dangeous cities in the world to see how the residents and authorities cope with the rising violence.

In 'Philadelphia', he joins the local police department as they patrol the streets where spiraling drug use and violent crime account for 400 murders a year.

In 'A Place for Paedophiles' Louis visits the Coalinga Mental Hospital in California, where 500 convicted paedophiles are housed.

Finally, in 'Crystal Meth', he examines the history of this highly addictive drug and the debilitating effect it has had on affected communities.

i can just imagine the yanks kicking off a fuss, they are painting the city black, why cant he go to eh eh well why cant he just sit in his house  and stop making documentaries  grin
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by teeboyseve(m): 10:26pm On Oct 10, 2010
Have always Loved that country, But am kinda weak tonight. No Law & Order. Everything is just WRONG, Where do we start from? Where?
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by parki: 10:27pm On Oct 10, 2010
i guess alot of pple didnt watch it, they were busy seeing xfactor grin
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by hackney(m): 10:27pm On Oct 10, 2010
Just seen the docu.
Hmm. . . Miscommunication galore.

I think the "tour guide" had difficulties expressing issues accurately while louis was pushing to
shed the issues in the worst possible light.

All in all, it's good to have programs like this(good or bad) aired because if nothing else, at least the spot light
is on.

Next stop , [size=18pt]the government[/size]
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by teeboyseve(m): 10:28pm On Oct 10, 2010
parki:

i guess alot of pple didnt watch it, they were busy seeing xfactor grin

X factor finished at 9pm, before the program starts.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by KnowAll(m): 10:29pm On Oct 10, 2010
I can see why Tokyo in Ibadan is in constantly in a battle with his rival of who rules the roost, the takings is very good. Did u guys see how much was in that carrier back " bundles of N1,000.00 NOTES" no wonder MC is flexing,  those basta*ds are making 100,000 of thousands weekly.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 10:29pm On Oct 10, 2010
About Fashola fratenizing with the area boys, I can only imagine that for the State government, it might be a question of the lesser of two evils, completing alienating the area boys and leaving them to run riot, or having a 'leadership' albeit corrupt that they can use as a conduit to the rest of the area boys.

thats tinubu's legacy.

he brought back the area boys.

under marwa, the area boys disappeared completely

there was a brief period some four years back when some area boys killed a soldier.

for weks it was open season on them.

it was looking as if the menace would finally be curbed - but eventually some other MC dropped some big dough on some army ogas and it all went back to normal
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by teeboyseve(m): 10:31pm On Oct 10, 2010
KnowAll:

I can see why Tokyo in Ibadan is in constantly in a battle with his rival of who rules the roost, the takings is very good. Did u guys see how much was in that carrier back " bundles of N1,000.00 NOTES" no wonder MC is flexing,  those basta*ds are making 100,000 of thousands weekly.

Yes o, They make Millions weekly not thousands.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by teeboyseve(m): 10:36pm On Oct 10, 2010
There was an elderly man at the market scene that was trying to say that the MC gangs are criminals not NURTW, But immediately that MC's Assistant branded the elderly man as "MAD MAN", They don't like the truth.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Oct 10, 2010
oyb:

thats tinubu's legacy.

he brought back the area boys.

under marwa, the area boys disappeared completely


Very important statement
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Kobojunkie: 11:00pm On Oct 10, 2010
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by eobaro(m): 11:02pm On Oct 10, 2010
U knw i've been to idumota office of these union guyz, specifically for okada. In the evenings 4rm around 6pm, they gather to recieve and count returns they get by harrassing okada riders. The rude shocker is all they do wit this cash apart from wat goes to their heads, police and govt. They drink bottles of beer and give girlfriends bundles as take home. Louis did a real job there.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 11:03pm On Oct 10, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Documentary on Youtube



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1XnEr1V9gc&feature=youtu.be

You never disappoint.

Thank you so much!!!

But I can barely understand the dude's british accent [annoying]
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by blacksta(m): 11:13pm On Oct 10, 2010
I guess these are the guys or area boys politicians use for ballot snatching and all other evil vices- I cry for Nigeria
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by chic2pimp(m): 11:24pm On Oct 10, 2010
Just watching the programme now on sky plus(pre recorded), funny and depressing stuff I must say.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by blacksta(m): 11:35pm On Oct 10, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

You never disappoint.

Thank you so much!!!

But I can barely understand the dude's british accent [annoying]

How can you understand - when you be market person - u better get translator like the oyinbo guy - bush pesin
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by parki: 11:37pm On Oct 10, 2010
blacksta:

How can you understand - when you be market person - u better get translator like the oyinbo guy - bush pesin

u sure say no be cross n die grin
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by ShangoThor(m): 12:23am On Oct 11, 2010
The important things that have come out of this documentary:
1.  The photo that MC had on his wall was a ‘PhotoShop collage’. If you run a Google image search you will find the original image of Fashola posing alone. In other words it is a doctored image.

2. This documentary only focused on Lagos and is by no means reflective on Nigeria as a whole. Furthermore, the reason why Lagos is, and will always be targeted as the focus of these kinds of documentaries is because it is the Largest Black city in the world and the Western media have a vested interest in negating ‘our’ ability to effectively organize ourselves, let alone create a utopia, or ‘Garden of Eden’ where black people live decent lives in picturesque, clean, enviable environments.

3. I am actually glad that this exposé was aired. Aspects of this documentary actually put things into perspective for me. Prior to watching it I assumed ‘area boys’ which are technically ‘boys in the hood’, worked as independent units. I had no idea that they were organized from a higher level and were units affiliated to the ‘Transport Workers Union’.  Moreover, this Union is powerful enough to lobby the office of the Governor; are protected by the Security Forces and control the ‘Extortion Racket’ in a Mafia style fashion. I found this very enlightening.

4. It is interesting that this exposé was commissioned by the BBC, afterall the Nigerian controlled media such as NTA, AIT, BEN TV would never tackle these issues and we need to start asking why? Could it be that the middle class and media are complicit in this system that generates gross abject poverty, mass extortion and exploitation?

The bottom line is that I believe Lagosians, and Nigerians in general deserve better.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by LadyT(f): 12:30am On Oct 11, 2010
I really enjoyed it.

I dont think it was as bad as people were saying it was going to be.

Just goes to show MC does jack s h i t ole oshi.

Funny how he claims to know Fashola yet when Fashola is giving a speech he is standing there in the crowd like everyone else is!

The photoshopped picture was hilarious!

If you missed it watch it again here.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vcwfw/Louis_Theroux_Law_and_Disorder_in_Lagos/
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by oyinda3(f): 1:51am On Oct 11, 2010
shangoThor,

nice review. now i wanna see it just for my entertainment.

of course the "area boys" thing is highly organized lol   they have connections way up in politicians' circles sef. i learned these from watching nollywood yoruba movies.
hahaha but yea it's always cool to see things from a different perspective and add to existing knowledge. even though thoreaux or whatever his name is is highly known for his gonzo journalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_journalism

I don't agree with your point 4 though. Nigerian reporters and journalists tackle such issues all the time. mostly in form of broadcast/ tv reports rather than in documentary form. Maybe it feels more like an expose to us because a foreigner is filming it?
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by reindeer: 2:07am On Oct 11, 2010
I watched it just for the entertainment.
It was both depressing and hilarious.
The fact that a tout will have so much power over taxpayers is scary in Nigeria.
But really for those of us who grew up in lagos and i mean, real lagos e.g ebutte meta, this brought back memories of 'home' .The hoarse voices and smattering english from the ''boys''coupled with their reckless abandon for reason and right thinking makes me wonder whether my dear country wil ever be free from the clutches of illiteracy.
God help Nigeria.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by ezeagu(m): 2:59am On Oct 11, 2010
ShangoThor:

The important things that have come out of this documentary:
1.  The photo that MC had on his wall was a ‘PhotoShop collage’. If you run a Google image search you will find the original image of Fashola posing alone. In other words it is a doctored image.

2. This documentary only focused on Lagos and is by no means reflective on Nigeria as a whole. Furthermore, the reason why Lagos is, and will always be targeted as the focus of these kinds of documentaries is because it is the Largest Black city in the world and the Western media have a vested interest in negating ‘our’ ability to effectively organize ourselves, let alone create a utopia, or ‘Garden of Eden’ where black people live decent lives in picturesque, clean, enviable environments.

3. I am actually glad that this exposé was aired. Aspects of this documentary actually put things into perspective for me. Prior to watching it I assumed ‘area boys’ which are technically ‘boys in the hood’, worked as independent units. I had no idea that they were organized from a higher level and were units affiliated to the ‘Transport Workers Union’.  Moreover, this Union is powerful enough to lobby the office of the Governor; are protected by the Security Forces and control the ‘Extortion Racket’ in a Mafia style fashion. I found this very enlightening.

4. It is interesting that this exposé was commissioned by the BBC, afterall the Nigerian controlled media such as NTA, AIT, BEN TV would never tackle these issues and we need to start asking why? Could it be that the middle class and media are complicit in this system that generates gross abject poverty, mass extortion and exploitation?

The bottom line is that I believe Lagosians, and Nigerians in general deserve better.


Report for where? Did you not hear of that AIT studio that 'mysteriously' burnt down? Leave that thing any negative report on the ruling party and the TV station is over, plus NTA is part of the government that is paying for area boys. A shame.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by TewMuch: 3:07am On Oct 11, 2010
Make una leave my people alone oh. What is all this. If they are not organized like this they would constitute a big nuisance to Lagos State. This is a process of making them work, even though they mostly just collect money. But they have helped create some order in the whole chaos. Area boys have always been there and they aint going no where. Its better they are organized or they become desperate and everyone loses. These guys have nothing to lose, and will die for N1000. They are also the ones that can mobilize people for politicians in a big way, as they constitute most of the indigenous lagos youth.
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by Nobody: 3:58am On Oct 11, 2010
after watching part 1 and 2 out of 5 (patiently waiting for the other parts to be uploaded), i have to say that it only shows what we all already knew. whats the big deal?!

i particularly like A) that TOWER (manly looking) woman controlling guys (in that male "orientated" Nigerian society?!) B) the way some scammer came out of nowhere in Oshodi and try to shake them for money bullshiiting them that he was a government worker and they had no permit to shoot, and thats just out of 2 parts, PRICELESS!
here
part1:

[flash=480,385]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1XnEr1V9gc?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]

part2:

[flash=480,385]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTA0r_m15a0?fs=1&hl=en_US"[/flash]
Re: Bbc2 To Air Law & Disorder In Lagos Sun, 10 Oct 2010, 21:00 (pic) by TewMuch: 4:04am On Oct 11, 2010
MRbrownJAY:

after watching part 1 and 2 out of 5 (patiently waiting for the other parts to be uploaded), i have to say that it only shows what we all already knew. whats the big deal?!

i particularly like A) that TOWER (manly looking) woman controlling guys (in that male "orientated" Nigerian society?!) B) the way some scammer came out of nowhere in Oshodi and try to shake them for money bullshiiting them that he was a government worker and they had no permit to shoot, and thats just out of 2 parts, PRICELESS!
here
In Yoruba culture, women are not powerless or dominated like you think. They actually, historically have political power. They are not repressed like other tribes. I am not suprised to see an Area girl like tawa. She is no ordinary woman, you see the men say she fights like a guy. SO she has earned their respect. I have seen some area mama's beat up guys too many times in Lagos. No man wants to get into a fight with those women, they will f*uck you up. No joke. cheesy

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