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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 1:18pm On Aug 13, 2015
. Consciousness Has to Be Earned Moment to Moment


. Of course, obtaining the Fifth Initiation in Eckankar does not guarantee spiritual balance or understanding. Consciousness always has to be earned moment to moment. Regardless of spiritual statue, a person can become confused, experience a spiritual setback, and have to start on the path again. The road becomes narrower as we move into the higher worlds. With greater spiritual freedom comes greater responsibility and accountability.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 11:28am On Aug 17, 2015
. The Real Initiation Occurs Inside

. Only the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master can link up Soul with the ECK through initiation. The outer initiation is simple and easy. As with many experiences in Eckankar, the real event occurs inside each of us. The outer initiation is a physical acknowledgement of the inner spiritual event. It is the inner event which makes all the difference.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 10:35am On Aug 18, 2015
. Listen To God's Voice

. If God is God, then who are you?
. You're either a conscious or unconscious child of God. A lot of people are unconscious children of God when they presume to inflict their religion upon other people. It's the big head that says, "My God is bigger than your God," or "My religion is better than yours."
. There is one fact about religion, though: Your religion is best for you right now. That's basically all you can say about any religion. All you can speak about is your religion, and all you can say is that it's either the best for you right now or it's not. If it is the best for you, then you should be growing spiritually and enjoying life.
. You should be learning things that help you develop more love and compassion for other people in your family, and those you meet when you're out and about in your daily life. That's if your religion is working for you.
. If you're not doing these things, then find another one. Or leave religion entirely and maybe listen to the voice of nature.
. No matter what religion you belong to, or whether you belong to no religion at all, ultimately you are listening to the divine Voice of God within you - either by intuition, dreams, or direct experiences of the reality of the spiritual worlds.
. God's love is with you all the time. It's up to you to recognize it through the hard times and the good times.
. God's love is making you more of a spiritual being so that you can better understand the conditions and situation that other Soul, other lights of God, are going through too. In doing so, you are able to serve them and all life better.


How To Survive Spiritually In Our Times
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master

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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 12:21pm On Aug 19, 2015
. The Living ECK Master Belongs to the Order of Vairagi, Providing Guidance Home to God

. When the Living ECK Master steps down from his position, he usually takes on a different mission in the heavenly hierarchy. Shamus-i-Tabriz, who served as the Living ECK Master over four hundred years ago, now teaches in a wisdom temple on one of the other planes.
. The brotherhood of ECK Masters are members of the Order of the Vairagi. The Sanskrit word vairagi means"detached." These Masters are detached from the passions of this world. Their only mission is to guide Soul home to God. They do not have a social agenda and usually stay away from political and other causes. Through the Spiritual Exercises of ECK, many ECKist work with some of these ECK Masters.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 10:25am On Aug 20, 2015
. On the historical side, an ECKist who has studied a collection of Coptic text known as the Nag Hammadi Library learned something of interest to ECK initiates. The texts of the Nag Hammadi Library are mostly fourth-century copies of earlier Greek versions. The original texts were based upon the inner experiences of the Gnostics. In those first three hundred years of the Christian church, however, the outer path had lost the inner journeys of Soul. All that remained were degenerated myths that reduced earlier spiritual experiences into nothing more than allegories.
. In his research, this ECK initiate found a dimension to the original biblical teachings that has been lost in today's church. In the Marsanes, a fragmented codex, there is a guide to the planes and luminaries of those planes. The Paraphrase of Shem talks of inner travel as the mind's separation from the body, "as if in sleep." Another text, The Apocalypse of Paul, tells of Paul's heavenly journeys and his transformation upon reaching the tenth heaven. But it is The Discourse on the Eight and the Ninth which is most interesting for us. It gives a hermetic exercise for travel to purely spiritual planes, including chanting a secret "name" that can be transliterated from the original Coptic as - HU.
. The Gnostics were people whose spiritual path was an inner one. Unfortunately, they did not balance it with a strong outer path, which is why they succumbed to the institutional church of orthodoxy. Therefore, the secret name of God which had been set into their midst by Zadok was eventually lost.
. The future of Eckankar could hold the potential for a repeat of those early times. The difference between us and the Gnostics, however, is that we must be sensible enough to keep a balance between the inner and outer teachings - giving the needed attention to both. Unless this balance is maintained, there is but a broken, one-sided path that cannot truly minister to the spiritual needs of people.
. At the heart of our future in ECK is the HU- the ancient love song to God.




Wisdom of the Heart Book 1
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 12:14pm On Aug 21, 2015
. When we first step onto the path of ECK, our motives may be anything other than spiritual unfoldment. A young man approached Sudar Singh and asked to study at his ashram. Sudar Singh asked, "What do you expect to learn from my teaching?" The fellow said, "I want to learn how to get rich!" The ECK Master replied, "I can't help you. All I can do is show you God." The young man did not believe him and announced he would stay anyway. After some months of being in the presence of the Master, and being taken out nightly in the dream state, the young man's goal gradually changed. He gave up his ambitions to learn ways of making money and acquiring all the things that money could buy. His goal now had become Self-Realization, God-Realization, and entering into the kingdom of heaven in this lifetime. Results do not come without true effort.




Wisdom of the Heart Book 1
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 5:13pm On Aug 24, 2015
. Few Religions Resemble the Spiritual Teaching Given by the Founders

. Very few religions of today resemble the spiritual teaching given by their founders. Christianity has gone through many changes, and the Bible has seen many edits. As a result, what is written may bear little resemblance to what Christ actually said. The purpose of a living Master is to prevent such misdirection of the original spiritual truths. The Master is the Living Word.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 8:15pm On Aug 26, 2015
. With the Living ECK Master as Guide, We Experience Only What Is Necessary for Spiritual Growth

. The ECK Masters have made the same spiritual journey and have come to understand the road. They know the shortest route. We can save enormous wear and tear by following their lead back to God. Without a spiritual guide, the journey home can be long and arduous. With the Living ECK Master as our guide, we experience only what is necessary for our spiritual growth. The purpose of the Living ECK Master is to show us the way home to God.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 5:00pm On Aug 27, 2015
. The Living ECK Master Is Not Worshiped

. In Eckankar, the Living ECK Master is not idolized. He is given respect and love, but he is not worshipped. It is the Master's function, not his personality, that is important. Thus when the Mastership is passed from one person to another, the spiritual life of the ECKist need not change.



ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 7:55pm On Aug 28, 2015
. It's Natural to Question

. The God Worlds of ECK are vast and can be quite confusing to the uninitiated. Am I on the Astral Plane? Am I on the best path? Is this a true spiritual experience, or am I deluding myself? Where are the signposts? How far is the goal? What is the goal? It is natural under such circumstances to seek out a guide. We look for someone who has travelled the road before and can now show us the way.

. The ECKist's Goal Is Spiritual Mastery

. The goal of every ECKist is to experience life to the fullest, which means being a CO-worker with God. That is spiritual mastery. Some of us may eventually serve on earth as "guardian angel" ECK Masters, while others will pursue specialized interest in the spiritual worlds.



ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 1:33pm On Aug 31, 2015
. The Play of Soul

. The play of Soul is like a drama in which Soul is both the actor and audience. On entering the theatre the audience knows that it is about to see a play, but the actor creates Maya, an illusion of reality which gives the audience extreme emotions of joy and terror, laughter or tears. It is in the joy and sorrow of all beings that Soul, as audience, is carried away by Itself as the actor.

The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad
Book One

. Eckankar Is a Living Religion

. The great beauty of Eckankar is that it is a living religion. It's not bogged down with credos and dogmas. It evolves as our consciousness evolves. We do not worship the Living ECK Master. He is a guide to be respected, loved and honored. He is not an icon to be worshipped. You may study many books and attend classes or lectures, but your real learning comes from inside yourself and from your experiences.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 6:33pm On Sep 03, 2015
Life Becomes Miraculous

. When you let God into your life, divine love also enters. Experiences and coincidences you would have discounted as trivial before now, become miraculous. Life itself is rich, and you discover the joy of service and charity. God's love awakens your heart. You find this love in the eyes of the Living ECK Master and in the eyes of friends and family.
. You'll be given the keys to the future and the past. Events and experiences will speak to you in a way you've never known before. You can begin to see cycles and connections between your life and timeless wisdom. The waking dream and Golden-tongue Wisdom open your inner eyes and ears to the Voice of God.


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 12:43pm On Sep 08, 2015
. Love for and Responsibility to All Life

. Harold Klemp says that"The teachings of ECK work on the simple principle that love is the divine current which makes all life possible. We as Soul ride on this current, first of all, away from God. Then, at the farthest point away, at the very end of Its rope, Soul finds the teachings of ECK and can return home.
. "Before this, Soul has despaired of ever finding truth, of ever finding the best way home to God. Throughout Its many sojourns, in Its many lifetimes on earth and on the inner planes, Soul has been granted boons such as instant healings and 'undeserved' riches. All too often the individual has been misled to believe that life is a free ride or that life gives its bounties only to the fortunate. This misunderstanding has brought confusion.
. But when we come to ECK, we find that the games of illusion come to an end.... Finally we reach the understanding that everything we do, everything that happens to us, is for our own spiritual good and of our own making. At the end of the road we realize that the spiritual path is about love for all, self responsibility, and responsibility to all life."


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Nobody: 5:35am On Sep 09, 2015
Obi901:
. Love for and Responsibility to All Life

. Harold Klemp says that"The teachings of ECK work on the simple principle that love is the divine current which makes all life possible. We as Soul ride on this current, first of all, away from God. Then, at the farthest point away, at the very end of Its rope, Soul finds the teachings of ECK and can return home.
. "Before this, Soul has despaired of ever finding truth, of ever finding the best way home to God. Throughout Its many sojourns, in Its many lifetimes on earth and on the inner planes, Soul has been granted boons such as instant healings and 'undeserved' riches. All too often the individual has been misled to believe that life is a free ride or that life gives its bounties only to the fortunate. This misunderstanding has brought confusion.
. But when we come to ECK, we find that the games of illusion come to an end.... Finally we reach the understanding that everything we do, everything that happens to us, is for our own spiritual good and of our own making. At the end of the road we realize that the spiritual path is about love for all, self responsibility, and responsibility to all life."


ECKANKAR Ancient Wisdom for Today
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
how does one get in touch with eckankar. Dont know if there is any round my vicinity or state.
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 3:25pm On Sep 09, 2015
The truth is that the crowd neither wants nor seeks truth, and the leaders of the crowd, in their own interests, try to strengthen the mass fear and dislike of everything new and unknown. The slavery in which mankind lives is primarily based on this fear of the unknown, this resistance to change, even when it is obvious that the new is good.
. There is no mystery about truth, but the acquisition and the transmission of true knowledge demands both great labor and great effort of him who receives.
. Those who possess this knowledge are doing everything they can to transmit and communicate it to a striving and deserving number of people to facilitate their approach to it and enable them to prepare themselves to receive the truth.


Sri Paul Twitchell
The Flute of God
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 3:28pm On Sep 09, 2015
@chalantmike

. If you post your town and state I can get you an address. If you send me your mail I'll send you a number you can call in your state. Thanks
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Nobody: 4:04pm On Sep 09, 2015
Obi901:
@chalantmike

. If you post your town and state I can get you an address. If you send me your mail I'll send you a number you can call in your state. Thanks
minna, niger state.
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 9:32am On Sep 10, 2015
. Minna ECK Centre

. Along Eastern By-pass Ugwuan Gajere
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 9:33am On Sep 10, 2015
. The experiences of the seekers lead them into realizing that something is beyond the sweetness and light of the leaders they may have been following. Mainly, this comes about for the simple reason that what they have been hearing and reading did not have agreement. Contradictions started them looking deeper into the subject and into their own experiences to find truth. Many learned that they couldn't share their newly hard-won knowledge because of the possible dangerous aspects of spreading truth.
. Once the individual becomes emancipated from the conventions of society he can easily become a criminal in the eyes of that society. Few really want change, peculiarly enough. Few understand that truth reveals itself only to those who seek it and love it. The whole purpose of spiritual training is, therefore, the absolute union with the Divine Self.
. Yet many true seekers have found something. Hazrat Inayat Khan gave me the clue in his writing, "He who depends on his eyes for sight, his ears for hearing and his mouth for speech, is still Dead."


Sri Paul Twitchell
The Flute of God
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 3:19pm On Sep 14, 2015
The truth is that the crowd neither wants nor seeks truth, and the leaders of the crowd, in their own interests, try to strengthen the mass fear and dislike of everything new and unknown. The slavery in which mankind lives is primarily based on this fear of the unknown, this resistance to change, even when it is obvious that the new is good.
. There is no mystery about truth, but the acquisition and the transmission of true knowledge demands both great labor and great effort of him who receives.
. Those who possess this knowledge are doing everything they can to transmit and communicate it to a striving and deserving number of people to facilitate their approach to it and enable them to prepare themselves to receive the truth.


Sri Paul Twitchell
The Flute of God
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 11:30pm On Sep 16, 2015
No two people are alike. Each has an agreement with life that is unlike any other. Learn love, patience, and grace, because they are the way to find harmony. Finding peace is a big part of your spiritual life.
—Harold Klemp The Language of Soul

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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 3:42am On Sep 18, 2015
When something goes wrong in your life, there is usually a spiritual reason for it. Divine Spirit is trying to teach you something about truth.

—Harold Klemp The Language of soul

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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 12:42pm On Sep 20, 2015
. Soul's Schooling

. The Holy Spirit begins to show the individual who he or she is. Before you can see what the Holy Spirit's ways are, you have to open your state of consciousness.
. Often the Holy Spirit has to open it. This is often done through the agent of the Inner Master, because people relate better to people. The Master is simply the matrix, or a form created out of this substance and stuff of the Holy Spirit, same as you.
. The only difference between the Master and you is that appearing to people and helping them spiritually is his job. It's his divine calling. That's why the Holy Spirit has put him in that place. God, or Sugmad- which is our name for God- has put this individual there to help Souls who are tired of karma and reincarnation.
. Karma means doing things that help you or hurt you. But whether it's good karma or bad karma, both tie you to this world.
. When people pass on, they generally go to the next heaven just above the earth plane. They go to school there. It's sort of a debriefing for their life on earth. Other people in the spiritual hierarchy are classroom instructors. When the person is settled in, they let them rest awhile, if they deserve it. If they don't, they come back to earth real quick.
. The instructors say "Let's go over the record and see what you've done."
. They look in the big book. They say, "Well you gained here spiritually, but you slipped here because of such and such. So, we're going to have to polish that up in the next lifetime." Then the individual begins a period of instruction on the Astral Plane, sometimes on the Causal or Mental Plane. It depends upon the state of consciousness of the individual.
. The person has to learn certain things before they come back, but most of the lessons will come in the next lifetime. Maybe it's not a lesson about something that they needed to learn from the most recent lifetime, but from six, seven, or a hundred lives back.
. But it's all one Soul that just had different personalities in different lifetimes, and each one of these personalities came up with different experiences. Some helped, some hurt.



How To Survive Spiritually In Our Times
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 9:12am On Sep 23, 2015
When we are filled with love, the protection of Divine Spirit comes to help us in our daily lives.
—Harold Klemp The Language of Soul
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 3:04pm On Sep 24, 2015
Listen To God's Voice

. If God is God, then who are you?
. You're either a conscious or unconscious child of God. A lot of people are unconscious children of God when they presume to inflict their religion upon other people. It's the big head that says, "My God is bigger than your God," or "My religion is better than yours."
. There is one fact about religion, though: Your religion is best for you right now. That's basically all you can say about any religion. All you can speak about is your religion, and all you can say is that it's either the best for you right now or it's not. If it is the best for you, then you should be growing spiritually and enjoying life.
. You should be learning things that help you develop more love and compassion for other people in your family, and those you meet when you're out and about in your daily life. That's if your religion is working for you.
. If you're not doing these things, then find another one. Or leave religion entirely and maybe listen to the voice of nature.
. No matter what religion you belong to, or whether you belong to no religion at all, ultimately you are listening to the divine Voice of God within you - either by intuition, dreams, or direct experiences of the reality of the spiritual worlds.
. God's love is with you all the time. It's up to you to recognize it through the hard times and the good times.
. God's love is making you more of a spiritual being so that you can better understand the conditions and situation that other Soul, other lights of God, are going through too. In doing so, you are able to serve them and all life better.


How To Survive Spiritually In Our Times
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master

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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 10:58pm On Sep 25, 2015
Whatever you are going through today is training for tomorrow. You need today to reach tomorrow.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 11:11pm On Sep 26, 2015
The principles of the spiritual life are embodied in everything that we do. If we think they are not there, it is simply because we can’t see them or recognize them.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 4:15pm On Sep 27, 2015
. SOUL'S LESSONS On LOVE

. Soul, at some point, has to come back, no matter how hard life's experiences are here. Because this is an excellent place to learn about God's love. Not just receiving it, but giving it. This is the whole point of any true spiritual teaching, and this is also true of ECKankar: To teach, to show each Soul a balance between giving and receiving love in this life.



How To Survive Spiritually In Our Times
Sri Harold Klemp
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master

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Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 2:24pm On Sep 29, 2015
. The phases of growth, from misdirected thinking to right thinking, falls into these main groups. They have numerous other description, however, so an exact description of one's own may not be here. It will be close enough for you to recognize your own, in detail, from these broad outlines if you want to recognize it. By this time you ought to know that it is the only way to change circumstances you do not wish to be present in your life. Briefly, we'll list them, again:


. . (1). Wrong thinking, causing as it does, physical, nervous, and mental handicaps, provides a way of escape from normal living. It allows a person to withdraw from normal activities and responsibilities. He thinks, deep in his heart, he is as capable as others. Deep down, he does not want to understand any teaching which would abolish his way of escape.


. . (2). Wrong thinking which appears to offer benefits of some kind is not going to be given up. The person is likely to resist teachings which lead to the giving up of an error-producing thought process and to feel antagonistic to the teacher. He may try to win the sympathy or indulgence of the teacher. He may seek to discredit the motives of the teacher. He may attempt to put the responsibility for making decisions in everyday life on the teacher instead of changing his thinking process and dealing personally with the problem.



Sri Paul Twitchell
The Flute of God
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by Obi901: 2:26pm On Sep 29, 2015
. (3). Wrong thinking is usually born along with feelings of inferiority. This becomes apparent when the person tries to maintain an attitude of intellectual superiority. He rationalizes away the facts of his failure to change his unwanted circumstances in life. He attempts to substitute intellectual argument for actual practice of the truth. He will use illness, or his failure, to fasten the sheltering, ministering attentions of someone else on himself and attempt to make that person feel guilty at the thought of abandoning him to his own devices.


. . (4). Wrong thinking makes a person feel uncomfortable and out of place when right-thinking people are around. It will result in a person feeling depressed, feeling self-pity, feeling envious, resentful, or antagonistic toward those who succeed in any degree in truth.


Sri Paul Twitchell
The Flute of God
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 10:40pm On Oct 01, 2015
Begin with the love you have. Love gratefully. This love expands your heart into a greater vessel which can hold yet more love.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul
Re: Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar by benodic: 9:57pm On Oct 02, 2015
As we come out of our childhood of spirituality into greater states, we learn to let people be.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

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