izzou:


Dstv is all over Africa. I could liken Dstv to Dangote Cement.

You want to tell me if an African country expels Dangote cement, the Nigerian government and economy will be affected greatly? I doubt that

My point is these businesses are all over Africa, and they will definitely survive if we expel them. But it will be difficult for SA to ignore if other countries are queuing up behind us

As for the bolded, I agree

I'm here to learn though

Iamgrey5:
Nigeria is DSTV and MTN's biggest market, even bigger than the market share in their parent countries.

None of the Nigerian companies operating outside our shores command more than 10% market shares in those countries.

And MTN and DSTV are not all over Africa, they are only in countries that accept them.

Most of the technical operations of these South African companies are based in south Africa.

Nigerian economy is not wired like South African economy that is a fully capitalst in nature.

And I repeat, unlike DStv and MTN that controls the major market share in Nigeria, Dangote and the rest are just barely existing in those countries.

Why do think the South African President visited Nigeria the last time MTN was in trouble?

izzou:


What about your Dstv? What should we do about that?

The point is not to start hurting their businesses, but to force them to compensate and stop future attacks

We can diplomatically cajole other countries to cut ties with them. Let other countries(Maybe West African) suspend ties with SA, and watch them call for a truce

SA government does not own MTN or DSTV.

Its just like saying Ghanaians should boycott Globacom and Buhari will beg

cdqyehyeh:

Those companies are closer to there government than u think, they also serve as representative of their country, if they keep losing, they will either create educative programs for there citizens or speak to thier goverment.
Note, if we gradually stop using there product and we start going indigenously it wont only help solve the issue bt also help us economically. Hopefully, we got substitute.

izzou:


Okay, let me agree with what you are saying

So that means you're indirectly saying that the South African economy, is dependent, to an extent of what two companies are making in just only Nigeria?

I don't think that's possible.

And Dangote is not merely existing in other African countries.

cdqyehyeh:
Not a play bro, What Oshiomole said was the best solution have ever heard of, lets do that for at least a month and see how fast S/A goverment will react

Iamgrey5:
No, I am indirectly saying South Africa is likely to suffer more if we break our relationship with them.

Our big businesses are not involved that much in South Africa or on the continent.

Why we can easily get another country to buy our crude oil and invest in sectors South African companies will be vacating.

South Africa won't get another country that would give their companies the kind market share they currently enjoy in Nigeria.

Hence, it would affect their trade policy.

izzou:


That could be a solution, but I don't think it may produce results fast enough

cdqyehyeh:
Not a play bro, What Oshiomole said was the best solution have ever heard of, lets do that for at least a month and see how fast S/A goverment will react

cdqyehyeh:
Not a play bro, What Oshiomole said was the best solution have ever heard of, lets do that for at least a month and see how fast S/A goverment will react

Goldencheese:
South Africa needs to be taught a lesson!

deltateam:


I have already stopped subscribing to gotv. That's my own contribution, you can equally break your mtn sim as yours.

blindjustice13:
or better still port your mtn lines to another network while retaining your number

izzou:


[s]Oshiomole is advising us to drop our MTN SIM cards, when I can see his MTN number is online on my whatsapp status

Nonsense[/s]

izzou:


Oshiomole is advising us to drop our MTN SIM cards, when I can see his MTN number is online on my whatsapp status

Nonsense

Iamgrey5:
Bro this is not true

Nigeria is the biggest trading partner of South Africa on the continent because of those companies you mentioned.

We sell crude oil to them and they repratriat money back to their country.

If we Nationalise MTN and DStv it will affect their trade and business policies.

Hence, the Glo example can't work because Glo doesn't control huge market share in Ghana and our economy is wired in a different way.

Nigeria can survive because Nigeria once survived something similar in 2014 when America our largest trading partner in the world stopped buying our crude oil.

The only problem are the Nigerian elites who have some shares in SA companies stalling any retaliation.

•APC charges FG to severe economic, diplomatic ties



Romanus Ugwu and Godwin Tsa, Abuja




The Federal Government has begun plans to drag the South African government to the African Court on Human and Peoples Right in Arusha, Tanzania.

The legal option is to enforce the fundamental rights and freedoms of Nigerians and other African nationals in South Africa affected by anti-foreigner violence..

A highly placed source in the Federal Ministry of Justice said the action is consequent upon the refusal of the South African government to adopt diplomacy to resolve the killings, and also to the fact that Nigeria is a party to the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights, having ratified the charter on June 22, 1983.

Besides, the legal option, according to the source, is further predicated on Nigeria’s ratification of the Protocol to the African Charter on Human and Peoples Rights on the establishment of an African Court on Human and Peoples Rights, done on May 20, 2004

Specifically, the source said: “Following repeated incidents of killings, maiming and destruction of properties of Africans, especially Nigerians living in South Africa, and since it appears diplomacy has failed to prevent the South Africans from committing xenophobic attacks on foreigners, particularly Nigerians, it behooves the Federal Government to exercise its duty under international law to protect the rights of its citizens in diaspora.

“It is an elementary principle of international law that a state is entitled to protect its subjects, when injured by acts contrary to international law committed by another state, from whom they have been unable to obtain diplomatic action or international judicial proceedings on his behalf, a state is in reality asserting its own rights, its right to ensure, in the person of its subjects, respect for the rules of international law.

“In a South African reported case, Kaunda v. President of the Republic of South Africa, which lends credence to the Nigeria’s position, the Constitutional Court of that country states that: ‘There may … be a duty on government, consistent with its obligations under international law, to take action to protect one of its citizens against a gross abuse of international human right norms.

“A request to government for assistance in such circumstances where the evidence is clear would be difficult, and, in extreme cases, possibly impossible to refuse. It is unlikely that such a request will ever be refused by government, but, if it were, the decision will be justiciable and the court will order the government to take appropriate actions.’

“Thus even if Nigerian government is refusing to act in this circumstance, Nigeria can be compelled to take action by the court. The decision of the South African Constitutional Court is further corroborated by Article 19 of the Draft Articles on Diplomatic Protection, which provides that: ‘A state is entitled to exercise diplomatic protection according to the present draft articles, give due consideration to the possibility of exercising diplomatic protection, especially when a significant injury has occurred; take into account, wherever feasible, the views of injured persons with regard to resort to diplomatic protection and the reparation to be sought; and transfer to the injured person any compensation obtained for the injury.’

“Nigeria is thus entitled to take action in this xenophobic attacks on her citizens because South Africa has blatantly and with impunity failed to apply the ‘National Treatment’ principle, treatment equal to that given by South Africa to its own nationals to foreigners within its territory and consistently encouraged gross violation of the fundamental rights and freedoms of Nigerian citizens living in that country.”

Continuing, he told Daily Sun that, when a state disregards the application of either, the “international minimum standards” or the “national treatment” principles by resorting to killings, indiscriminately arresting and violating the fundamental rights and freedoms of foreign nationals in its territory, it is a clear violation of Article 55 (c) of the United Nations Charter and other International Human Rights.”

When Daily Sun sought the reaction of the Attorney-General of the Federation and Minster of Justice, Abubakar Malami (SAN), on the issue, he declined comments.

Meanwhile, the All Progressives Congress (APC) has charged the Buhari government to be ruthtless in handling the attacks.

Addressing newsmen n Abuja, APC National Chairman, Adams Oshiomhole, asked the Federal Government to severe all economic relationships with South Africa.

While demanding the avoidance of South African business interests, he urged Nigerians to drop their MTN SIM cards.

He also advised government to revoke agreements over the ownership of Shoprite, Stanbic IBTC Bank and Standard Chattered Bank, among others.

“South African companies are making billions of dollars from the Nigerian economy year-in-year-out, and repatriate same out of Nigeria…in order to send a very strong message to South African authorities and South African people, urge Nigerian government to take steps to take over the remaining shares of MTN that are owned by South Africans so that MTN becomes fully Nigerian-owned.”



https://www.sunnewsonline.com/nigeria-set-to-commence-legal-action-against-south-africa/

emapeteum:
I think the Nigerian government should engage SA in a diplomatic way to resolve this issue. Trying to cripple SA companies in Nigeria may spell doom for Nigeria and Nigerians. South Africa is a special country in Africa where Europeans migrated to settle. South Africa has so many things in common with the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. A fight against SA companies(own by White SA and not blacks) is a fight against the West and this may spell economic doom to our already fragile economy. Please let tread with caution

sylve11:
the people say them nor want una for their country. make una comot na. how many south africans dey inside naija. naija unuseful leaders make the country dey the way e dey, so make them talk anyhow there.

marvinsync:



shut up southafrican mofvcker

darkelf:


But he isn't far from the truth. If we allow anger to determine our reactions instead of common sense, we may end up regretting it

izzou:


Okay, let me agree with what you are saying

So that means you're indirectly saying that the South African economy, is dependent, to an extent of what two companies are making in just only Nigeria?

I don't think that's possible.

And Dangote is not merely existing in other African countries.

AK284:



He made a very valid point and it seems you didn't get it. let me be very clear about,there is something they call GDP(gross national product),Remove MTN,DSTV ,Stanbic bank, from that,Believe it they will feel the heat as a national, while do you think China trade war with America started from ban on Huawei which is Private Chinese company?