LordKO:
What I deduced from your submission in particular and references in general is that religion is an object of subjugation truly.

Well, for all I care and know, respect is a major constituent of love (goodness) and it doesn't discriminate. It's earned, not given, politeness and self-esteem beget it - I only hold brief for people who're sane.

Right without responsibility denotes mental parochialism in particular and insanity in general - so, a leader is one who knows the way, goes the way and shows the way. Leadership/to lead is all about assuming responsibility.

In summary, conscientiously - not neither logically nor realistically - there's nothing wrong with married women who believe that the way they act should be dependent on how they're treated by their husbands (the supposed heads/spiritual heads of the house). Once more, a leader is one who knows the way, goes the way and shows the way.

theButterfly:
In the words of 9ice:

"Respect is reciprocal
Ori o j'ori, base b'eru la b'omo".

Toks2008:
What exactly does Proverb 31 say?

PROVERBS 31 VS 10-31

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


It will take an uncommon miracle to come across a lady that will have all of these virtues..

GrossPrice:


My mother's all this!

Toks2008:
What exactly does Proverb 31 say?

PROVERBS 31 VS 10-31

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


It will take an uncommon miracle to come across a lady in this 21st century that will have all of these virtues ..

lyntiffany:
and you forgot the part of the bible that says seek ye shall find...... I am proud of the woman I am and am quite certain that they are other women like that out there, you only need to seek Toks and definitely you shall find.

I am not seeking for anything ...NO CARRY LOAD PUT FOR MY HEAD.

Toks2008:


I am not seeking for anything ...NO CARRY LOAD PUT FOR MY HEAD. Nah simple write up.


So, in essence, you dey talk sey you get all these attributes...Then you must be an angel.

Toks2008:


This is a very destructive mindset.

No head is more superior we know but it is what it is....women should respect their husbands in order to experience the love they so much crave for.

theButterfly:
Before I reply you, could you translate the "base b'eru la b'omo" for me in English, pls. I only understand the
"Ori o j'ori" part.

pocas:
No problem, we have heard.

Let me add it to the other books on how to live peacefully with men. We would read them all.

pocohantas:
I can see you changed the title of your thread.

Do people bother about these things in reality?

As in, two people that found themselves attractive and deserving of each other, would start worrying about who loves and respects first?

Are these things mutually exclusive?

pocohantas:
No problem, we have heard.

Let me add it to the other books on how to live peacefully with men. We would read them all.

CaptainMitch:

Martinez39:
Why are you gay?

CaptainMitch:
Because your girl no love me

Martinez39:
Lol. Don't take it seriously. This where you meme was gotten from. Watch and you will understand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L5mPjlPdbk

Toks2008:
What exactly does Proverb 31 say?

PROVERBS 31 VS 10-31

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


It will take an uncommon miracle to come across a lady in this 21st century that will have all of these virtues ..

Apination:
One 30 year old like that asked me what are the qualities I want in a woman and I told her, just be submissive and guess what she went on to tell me, hope you know I'm a stubborn person. For my mind, this one never ready