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Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 4:34am On Oct 30, 2010
A True Brain Box: is this the most academically qualified Nigerian out there?

Ndubuisi Ekekwe is undoubtedly a man that has carved a niche for himself in the world of electronic development, though he has a soaring popularity in United States, few knew about this genius in this part of the world. In this interview with SADIQ ABDULLATEEF, he lays it bare:

Who is Ndubuisi Ekekwe?
Ndubuisi Ekekwe was born in Ovim, Abia state. He attended Secondary Technical School, Ovim where he passed the SSCE/WASC with 8 distinctions including A2 in Further Mathematics and set his school all-time best result in that examination. Ndubuisi was so gifted that while in SS1, he self-prepared himself for none-science subjects and passed them with distinctions in GCE. He continued in school because of his passion for sciences. He obtained bachelor in engineering degree from Federal University of Technology, Owerri as the best student in the department of electrical & computer engineering with specialization in electronics/computer engineering in 1998.

He holds four masters degrees: MBA (University of Calabar), MTech (Federal University of Technology, Akure), Ms (Tuskegee University, USA), MSE (Johns Hopkins University, USA) and two doctorates in management from St. Clements University and Electrical & Computer Engineering specializing in microelectronics & medical robotics engineering, at the Johns Hopkins University, USA in March 2009. His research involves making integrated circuits with applications on alternative energies, medical robotics, biomedical systems and neuromorphics-an area that involves creating artificial human organs like retinas, cochlea and brain.

Ndubuisi began his doctorate in the Johns Hopkins University, USA after completing his Ms at Tuskegee University, USA with a CGPA of 4/4 in electrical engineering. That academic brilliance gave him the prestigious United States ERC/National Science Foundation and Johns Hopkins University fellowships. During his masters, he received the United States EMCWA scholarship and worked on the NASA’s Jet Propulsion project that focused on distribution of high frequency in the space environment. He has received many awards including the United Kingdom Congress on Computer Assisted Surgery and nomination for the Johns Hopkins Institutions Diversity Recognition Award. In June 2007, the Johns Hopkins University Whiting School of Engineering awarded him the SAMSTAG fellowship for ‘outstanding performance by a graduate student’.

Ndubuisi is certified in many key technologies and has published many technical papers in leading journals and conferences. His working experiences include NNPC and Diamond Bank. He holds two pending patents on microelectronics and has consulted for universities, World Bank, and firms. He also holds visiting appointments in two African universities and presently the principal investigator of emerging Africa’s first microelectronics institute. He is attending the African Union congress in Kenya this March and will join a leading US semiconductor firm as a team shaping the future of computing.

Ndubuisi is the Founder/President of African Institution of Technology. He is selected for inclusion in the Marquis Who’s Who in America (2010 edition) and Strathmore’s Who’s Who Worldwide (2009). His first book, Nanotechnology and Microelectronics: Global Diffusion, Economics and Policy, by IGI Global, USA will be ready early next year.

What is www.afrit.org?
Afrit stands for African Institution of Technology. Our mission is to provide practical educational support, enable technology policies, and facilitate bottom-up creative technology diffusion in African economies. My vision on this organization is simply to provide support to tertiary institutions interested in introducing cutting edge programs in their curricula. We understand that many African schools do not have the human skills to properly educate their students on these areas. What we do is to work with these institutions to develop the courses, lab manuals and necessary experiments that will facilitate practical academic experiences for the students. We do not charge for our services; they are free and open to all institutions in Africa. We focus mainly on microelectronics, semiconductors, computing (hardware), and robotics. We also source for textbooks from Western publishers and donate to schools. These books are usually technical textbooks. We have members across Europe, Canada and USA.

Another important area of our work is provision of computer aided design (CAD) tools. CAD tools are software programs created to facilitate design and automation in science and engineering. They are very expensive to acquire and license and certainly beyond the reach of our schools. However, even in the United States, schools do not buy some of them from their vendors or manufacturers. The companies simply donate them as part of their strategies to ensure that students get used to their products. Afrit has written many of these companies and they are simply ready to help our schools. For the really cheap CAD, they give us the permission to use them in teaching. These are the activities of Afrit. When a school needs a CAD, we can help them get free license for some of them for their educational and research needs.

Afrit has also worked with foreign partners to enable us fabricate integrated circuits designed by students in Africa. For instance, if a student designs integrated circuits (or chips) for camera, brain interface, cell phone, calculator, etc, we have the capacities to fabricate those chips and send back to the student for testing. The goal is to help our students experience the complete design cycle: from design to testing.

What are the aims and objectives of www.afrit.org?
Our major objective is to help African nations, especially Nigeria, to transfer and diffuse cutting edge technologies like microelectronics and nanotechnology. We believe so much that the hope of Africa will be by creating knowledge and training armies of knowledge workers towards diversifying our mineral- or hydrocarbon-based economies. Based on this motivation, we work to create awareness on the need to focus on these technologies and not just information technology (IT). Many African governments have IT policy and no technology policy; in short across African many people think that IT is synonymous with technology. For us, we want to push the notion that IT, though a great technology, is not the only technology. Without microelectronics, there will be no IT as the computers must be designed before we can experience the IT. Fortunately, the wealth comes from microelectronics and IT design and not the consumption as we presently have in Nigeria. We consume IT as we do not create it. By consuming IT, we waste lots of resources that would have been saved if we can develop some of the IT infrastructures. Microelectronics is the bedrock to making routers, switches, computers , etc as it is the engine of modern commerce that continues to revolutionize all aspects of our lives. We have developed what we call Afrit-model to diffuse microelectronics in Africa.

To realize these goals, we focus on three constituents: governments, schools and small and medium enterprises (SME). We help schools improve their programs. For governments, we provide experience to help them develop policies on technology transfer for these technologies. For SME, we help them identify areas where they can contribute towards facilitating the diffusion of microelectronics. For instance, we note that the computer business center model was very successful in advancing IT in Nigeria. We can create a program that can help graduates to start programming microprocessors and FPGA instead of wasting time on computers composing 419 emails.

As we do these, we connect Nigerian students to scholarship opportunities; give our schools information on grants, provide collaboration linkages with foreign schools.

What are Afrit challenges and success?
Our major challenge is simply reaching our audience: schools, small and medium enterprises, and governments. For the schools, we have made attempts in the past to send CDs containing the CAD tools, but without our presence, we noticed that some of the schools were unable to properly use them. The challenge is having the time to train at least the teachers on the software as they apply to IC or chip design. For governments, Afrit is truly committed to assist them develop infrastructures like semiconductor institutes that will become the bedrock to diffuse this technology. Also, being students, it is natural that we do not have enough funding for travel we make. However, since our organization does not distribute hardware, rather, ideas, we try to cope. When we ask a firm to send us their tools to help schools educate, it does not cost us anything, except time. One area we would have made more impacts if we have money is buying development boards and donating to schools. Some of these boards cost less than $20 in US and can add values to education. The same goes with biomorphic robots, which go for $36 and can help students understand how to design systems that mimic nature and push human towards immortality.

We have had successes across the continent. We are working on projects with African Union, World Bank, Nigerian universities, and other African schools. I hold visiting appointments in some of these schools. We have attended conferences in Hungary, Canada, many cities in the US and have CAD licenses to train with. I will be going to one in Kenya next month organized by African Union. Our publication is also extensive. We are working on two books right now. One is focusing on how technology will be used to turn brain drain into brain gain. In other words, I do not need to live in Nigeria to make contributions in Nigeria. While in the US, I can continue to advance my skills and using the right mix of technology, can help my nation. Afrit is also working on a project that will offer the blueprint on how Telepresence can be deployed in Africa. Yes, having the capacity to teach at Bayero University from my house in the United States. We want to see that schools have these facilities for collaborations. We have helped universities in Nigeria prepared international grants to foreign agencies to meet the best standards. While it may not be wise to give names of schools, we have developed microelectronics curricula for many universities across Africa.

How do you intend to overcome those challenges?
Simply, by reaching schools, small businesses and governments and telling them what we can offer to them. That is why we appreciate this exposure Triumph newspaper is giving us. Thank you very much. We want to see relationships from schools in the Northern part of Nigeria. We are yet to have a project from this region. We missed an opportunity to work with one of the schools in the North few years ago. The period we planned to arrive, lecturers started strike and it was cancelled.

http://www.triumphnewspapers.com/ho1122009.html
http://afrit.org/si.aspx
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate, ng_ted_22.html
http://etienne.ece.jhu.edu/people/nekekwe/index.html
http://naijatechtalk./2009/02/20/how-to-develop-africas-infotech-policy-by-ndubuisi-ekekwe/
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Jakumo(m): 4:51am On Oct 30, 2010
There is certainly a genetic component that enables Igbo students to rise to the top of the class in academic pursuits, particularly those in the technical field. Having reviewed large numbers of resumes in Nigeria, it quickly became apparent that there exists a statistically significant MAJORITY of Igbo graduates who excel at mathematics and the sciences, in comparison to the relatively modest numbers of applicants of such high caliber from other tribal categories.

The above conclusions have been drawn after meticulous reviews of literally thousands of resumes, as well as involvement in the subsequent follow-up written interviews of selected candidates. The natural predisposition of the Igbo student towards technical studies is a compelling reason for Igbo leadership to do all within its power to reverse the current retrogressive trend which sees increasing numbers of Igbo youths forsaking academics in favor of petty trading and motor parts imports.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Environer: 5:07am On Oct 30, 2010
Jakumo:

There is certainly a genetic component that enables Igbo students to rise to the top of the class in academic pursuits, particularly those in the technical field.  Having reviewed large numbers of resumes in Nigeria, it quickly became apparent that there exists a statistically significant MAJORITY of Igbo graduates who excel at mathematics and the sciences, in comparison to the relatively modest numbers of applicants of such high caliber from other tribal categories.

The above conclusions have been drawn after meticulous reviews of literally thousands of resumes, as well as involvement in the subsequent follow-up written interviews of selected candidates.  The natural predisposition of the Igbo student towards technical studies is a compelling reason for Igbo leadership to do all within its power to reverse the current retrogressive trend which sees increasing numbers of Igbo youths forsaking academics in favor of petty trading and motor parts imports.


I believe you do not expect all Igbos to be university graduates. I think they have enough graduates already. Thousands of them are jobless in Nigeria after graduation. Moreover, the secondary level drop-out rate has no impact on their level of graduation in Nigeria. The JAMB records attest to that. I think they have a good balance of educated versus artisans versus business (traders) persons.
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Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Jakumo(m): 8:30am On Oct 30, 2010
Environer:


I believe you do not expect all Igbos to be university graduates. I think they have enough graduates already. Thousands of them are jobless in Nigeria after graduation.
I think they have a good balance of educated versus artisans versus business (traders) persons.

The acquisition of a minimum BS or Ba degree only takes a further four years beyond high school, and would greatly widen the employment options available worldwide, regardless of individual career choice.  Igbos as a group should be encouraged to pursue college educations, so as to capitalize on their evident genetic aptitude for highly complex math and the engineering sciences.

Since the early 1990s, India's dedicated technological science institutes have produced generations of graduates who are snapped up by high-tech firms in the West, where they quickly achieve meteoric success which then enables them to invest massively in their homeland's technology sector.  The same philosophy of intellectual wealth generation should guide the Ndiigbo leadership, for such emphasis on mass education can only be for the larger good, given the remarkable gene pool whose destiny and  future they can thus shape.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Sunnybobo3(m): 8:48am On Oct 30, 2010
Jakumo:

The acquisition of a minimum BS or Ba degree only takes a further four years beyond high school, and would greatly widen the employment options available worldwide, regardless of individual career choice.  Igbos as a group should be encouraged to pursue college educations, so as to capitalize on their evident genetic aptitude for highly complex math and the engineering sciences.

Since the early 1990s, India's dedicated technological science institutes have produced generations of graduates who are snapped up by high-tech firms in the West, where they quickly achieve meteoric success which then enables them to invest massively in their homeland's technology sector.  The same philosophy of intellectual wealth generation should guide the Ndiigbo leadership, for such emphasis on mass education can only be for the larger good, given the remarkable gene pool whose destiny and  future they can thus shape.

Much as I would want to agree with you Jakumo, one cannot turn a blind eye to the level of poverty that pervades the country Nigeria though less pronounced in The South Eastern part of the country. If you carry out a study, you will find out that most if not all of those that drop out after High school are from families that can't afford sending them to Uni or College as the case may be either because the family is poor that they can't sponsor any of their kids through higher education or they can't sponsor all of their kids thereby making it necessary that some will drop for their siblings to continue.

Again, the ingenuity of the Igbos is being pronounced in our traditional business apprenticeship scheme instituted by our fore fathers. this apprenticeship scheme has made it possible for billionaires to rise up from families which hitherto were barely able to feed (a rare occurrence in the other regions as it is either a Michael Otedola's son, an Abiola's son or a Danatata's cousin). Note that those 'DROP OUT TRADERS AND SPARE PARTS IMPORTERS' you are referring to are those who if they found themselves across the Niger, would be Area boys and if  up North, would be Almajiris. That explains why notwithstanding the fact that the Igbos are producing the highest number of graduates in Nigeria, those 'DROP OUTS' are still topping the charts in their different fields of endeavour.

That is the 'CAN DO' spirit of the average Igbo man at work.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by german007(m): 8:33pm On Oct 30, 2010
Jakumo:

The acquisition of a minimum BS or Ba degree only takes a further four years beyond high school, and would greatly widen the employment options available worldwide, regardless of individual career choice. Igbos as a group should be encouraged to pursue college educations, so as to capitalize on their evident genetic aptitude for highly complex math and the engineering sciences.

Since the early 1990s, India's dedicated technological science institutes have produced generations of graduates who are snapped up by high-tech firms in the West, where they quickly achieve meteoric success which then enables them to invest massively in their homeland's technology sector. The same philosophy of intellectual wealth generation should guide the Ndiigbo leadership, for such emphasis on mass education can only be for the larger good, given the remarkable gene pool whose destiny and future they can thus shape.

Jakumo,

I have for a long time been very fascinated, impressed and dumbfounded by the originality in your ideas and your writing manner.


Well done.

cool
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AjanleKoko: 12:10am On Oct 31, 2010
german007:

Jakumo,

I have for a long time been very fascinated, impressed and [i]dumbfounded
by the originality in your ideas and your writing manner.


Well done.

cool
[/i]


Dumbfounded?
Typical Naija way of commenting on someone's write-up. undecided


Sunny_bobo:

the ingenuity of the Igbos is being pronounced in our traditional business apprenticeship scheme instituted by our fore fathers. this apprenticeship scheme has made it possible for billionaires to rise up from families which hitherto were barely able to feed (a rare occurrence in the other regions as it is either a Michael Otedola's son, an Abiola's son or a Danatata's cousin). Note that those 'DROP OUT TRADERS AND SPARE PARTS IMPORTERS' you are referring to are those who if they found themselves across the Niger, would be Area boys and if up North, would be Almajiris. That explains why notwithstanding the fact that the Igbos are producing the highest number of graduates in Nigeria, those 'DROP OUTS' are still topping the charts in their different fields of endeavour.

I have to say, I agree with this.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Onlytruth(m): 12:12am On Oct 31, 2010
AjanleKoko:

Dumbfounded?
Typical Naija write-up comment. undecided

But what do you think about the topic? undecided
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AjanleKoko: 12:19am On Oct 31, 2010
Onlytruth:

But what do you think about the topic? undecided

You mean the resume and write-up about Ndubisi Ekekwe? Pretty good. Good to read that he's reaching out to people at home, helping out in the way he knows how.
If there's any tribal slant intended, that interests me not.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Onlytruth(m): 12:33am On Oct 31, 2010
AjanleKoko:

You mean the resume and write-up about Ndubisi Ekekwe? Pretty good. Good to read that he's reaching out to people at home, helping out in the way he knows how.
If there's any tribal slant intended, that interests me not.

No, I was REALLY interested in what you thought. You are one of the few folks here I respect their opinion.
I noticed the same thing about the guy. Everything in Nigeria has a beginning, including tribalism. If all Nigerians behaved like him, then there is hope. cool
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AjanleKoko: 12:40am On Oct 31, 2010
Onlytruth:

Everything in Nigeria has a beginning, including tribalism. If all Nigerians behaved like him, then there is hope. cool

ah, well . . . I wish i could say the same. However, the world is much more modern and advanced these days, people are much more enlightened, greedy and selfish, and wont to blame anything and anyone else for their problems. Essentially, people can argue much better these days.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 1:02am On Oct 31, 2010
What will this man do with all the degrees? But the good thing is that they are all in related disciplines that will enable him harness the whole stuff very well. I do not know of any better qualified Nigerian, at least academically speaking. He seems to have some leadership qualities too.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 1:05am On Oct 31, 2010
Jakumo:

The acquisition of a minimum BS or Ba degree only takes a further four years beyond high school, and would greatly widen the employment options available worldwide, regardless of individual career choice.  Igbos as a group should be encouraged to pursue college educations, so as to capitalize on their evident genetic aptitude for highly complex math and the engineering sciences.

Since the early 1990s, India's dedicated technological science institutes have produced generations of graduates who are snapped up by high-tech firms in the West, where they quickly achieve meteoric success which then enables them to invest massively in their homeland's technology sector.  The same philosophy of intellectual wealth generation should guide the Ndiigbo leadership, for such emphasis on mass education can only be for the larger good, given the remarkable gene pool whose destiny and  future they can thus shape.

Jakumo,

Do you have any scientific bases to ascribe genetics to Igbo pursuit of studies in science and math? Do we then say Yorubas are genetically primed to study accounting and law, seeing that they tower above others in these fields?
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by timmy2409(m): 1:07am On Oct 31, 2010
He was at my former uni about two years ago to lecture at some three-day workshop he organized himself-- which I happened to attend. This guy by every means is the greatest Nigerian I ever met. He's so down to earth and patriotism oozes out of his speech and actions. Although almost everyone present including lecturers at my uni, kinda worshiped him for holding the number of degrees he did, he took the time to speak to every body individually and respectfully. My roommate at the time also loved him simply for the fact that even though he had spent a relatively long amount of time in the West, he hadn't changed his igbo accent any bit (maybe the igbo accent is just too thick to be dropped grin jk). He made me, and hopefully everyone that also attended the workshop, believe we could do or be anything we wanted to. Greatest man I ever met.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 1:10am On Oct 31, 2010
timmy2409:

He was at my former uni about two years ago to lecture at some three-day workshop he organized himself-- which I happened to attend. This guy by every means is the greatest Nigerian I ever met. He's so down to earth and patriotism oozes out of his speech and actions. Although almost everyone present including lecturers at my uni, kinda worshiped him for holding the number of degrees he did, he took the time to speak to every body individually and respectfully. My roommate at the time also loved him simply for the fact that even though he had spent a relatively long amount of time in the West, he hadn't changed his igbo accent any bit (maybe the igbo accent is just too thick to be dropped grin jk). He made me, and hopefully everyone that also attended the workshop, believe we could do or be anything we wanted to. Greatest man I ever met.

I agree that he, apparently, is the most qualified Nigerian for now. But I disagree that he should drop his accent. That is pure kolo mentality. The oyibos in Naija do not start speaking with naija accent.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AjanleKoko: 1:14am On Oct 31, 2010
^^
Err . . . what does that mean, most qualified Nigerian? Most qualified to do what?

Or you mean the Nigerian that has the most number of degrees?
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 1:15am On Oct 31, 2010
AjanleKoko:

^^
Err . . .  what does that mean, most qualified Nigerian? Most qualified to do what?

Or you mean the Nigerian that has the most number of degrees?



Yes, I am speaking academically. Do you know of any other better than him academically? I learnt Ekwueme has several BScs, one MSc and one PhD, but he does not have 2 MScs and 2 PhDs.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Jakumo(m): 5:59am On Oct 31, 2010
Akin-Egba:

Jakumo,

Do you have any scientific bases to ascribe genetics to Igbo pursuit of studies in science and math? Do we then say Yorubas are genetically primed to study accounting and law, seeing that they tower above others in these fields?

Akin, my observations about the statistical over-representation of the Igbo tribe in the engineering sciences are based on my having had the privilege of reviewing thousands of resumes submitted by job-seeking Nigerian graduates, and also my involvement in the follow-up selection interviews conducted to sort out the pretenders from the true scholars.

To answer your question directly, my presumption about the genetic basis of Igbo intellect is grounded largely in the fact that such massive numbers of Igbo men DOMINATE the engineering disciplines, while candidates from Nigeria's other tribal demographics, even when grouped together, constitute a distinct minority in those specific technical subjects.  Whether this enormous academic specialization disparity is due to nature or nurture will likely remain an intriguing mystery for some time to come. 

By the way, the multiple degree holder described in your first post here is a living national treasure who, as time goes on, has the potential to positively and profoundly impact the advancement of Nigeria AND his adopted homeland.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by deor03(m): 9:15am On Oct 31, 2010
Jakumo:

Akin, my observations about the statistical over-representation of the Igbo tribe in the engineering sciences are based on my having had the privilege of reviewing thousands of resumes submitted by job-seeking Nigerian graduates, and also my involvement in the follow-up selection interviews conducted to sort out the pretenders from the true scholars.

To answer your question directly, my presumption about the genetic basis of Igbo intellect is grounded largely in the fact that such massive numbers of Igbo men DOMINATE the engineering disciplines, while candidates from Nigeria's other tribal demographics, even when grouped together, constitute a distinct minority in those specific technical subjects.  Whether this enormous academic specialization disparity is due to nature or nurture will likely remain an intriguing mystery for some time to come. 

By the way, the multiple degree holder described in your first post here is a living national treasure who, as time goes on, has the potential to positively and profoundly impact the advancement of Nigeria AND his adopted homeland.

In as much as the fact presented above could be true , I disagree with your presumption of the basis of the fact.

People are influenced by their environment. For the basis of my Argument I will divide Nigerian Environment into 3 ( the SW ; The East+Niger Delta and the North)

The examples of success in the South West is predominantly in the Banking , Judiciary , Construction Engineering Sectors, IT,Medical Sector,Business
In the The East + Niger Delta, the predominant influence is the Oil and Gas Sector, Medical Sector
In the north , The predominant Influence is on Politics, Millitary, Civil Service ect


Bases on the fact presented above, It is normal that a young Nigerian growing up In any Part of these part of Nigeria to be influenced based on what is termed success in that part of the Country.

For a young Male Nigerian growing up in the East or ND, He will most likely want to work in Shell , Mobil, etc, so right from Secondary school , his mind is tuned to that.
To work in these industry, you must study one of the Engineering courses and also do so with VERY good grades.
Getting into the competitive Engineering disciplines requires good secondary school O level result.

So as to achieve the Ultimate AIM, the Child is tuned to scoring Good grades from SS1 till 500 Level in the University.

So I submit that performance of the Igbo guy , is largely driven by the environment, rather than the genes.

I would be interested in this study, though to ascertain by assumptions .


Maybe comparing a group of Lagos Born and Bred IGBO guys to the Owerri/Onitsha Born and Bred IGBO guys
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 10:29am On Oct 31, 2010
Akin-Egba:

Yes, I am speaking academically. Do you know of any other better than him academically? I learnt Ekwueme has several BScs, one MSc and one PhD, but he does not have 2 MScs and 2 PhDs.

That is a load of bullshit. No one can dispute the man's intellect but to ascribe the title of most qualified Nigerian is a bit much. He seems to have a lot of engineering and technical degrees; will those qualify him to run a bank or practice as a barrister or even as an accountant? Do not confuse having education titles with being a thoroughbred professional.

The question you should be asking yourself is, 'what is he the most qualified at doing?'.

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Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 10:35am On Oct 31, 2010
deor03:

In as much as the fact presented above could be true , I disagree with your presumption of the basis of the fact.

People are influenced by their environment. For the basis of my Argument I will divide Nigerian Environment into 3 ( the SW ; The East+Niger Delta and the North)

The examples of success in the South West is predominantly in the Banking , Judiciary , Construction Engineering Sectors, IT,Medical Sector,Business
In the The East + Niger Delta, the predominant influence is the Oil and Gas Sector, Medical Sector
In the north , The predominant Influence is on Politics, Millitary, Civil Service ect


Bases on the fact presented above, It is normal that a young Nigerian growing up In any Part of these part of Nigeria to be influenced based on what is termed success in that part of the Country.

For a young Male Nigerian growing up in the East or ND, He will most likely want to work in Shell , Mobil, etc, so right from Secondary school , his mind is tuned to that.
To work in these industry, you must study one of the Engineering courses and also do so with VERY good grades.
Getting into the competitive Engineering disciplines requires good secondary school O level result.

So as to achieve the Ultimate AIM, the Child is tuned to scoring Good grades from SS1 till 500 Level in the University.

So I submit that performance of the Igbo guy , is largely driven by the environment, rather than the genes.

I would be interested in this study, though to ascertain by assumptions .


Maybe comparing a group of Lagos Born and Bred IGBO guys to the Owerri/Onitsha Born and Bred IGBO guys

I am more inclined to accept the argument about environment being the major influence. Also, students are influenced by the professionals in their environment. For instance, many Yoruba students would have been influenced by individuals such as Rotimi Williams, Sir Adetokunbo Ademola, Teslim Elias, Akintola Williams, Gani, etc while many Igbo students would have drawn inspiration from Chike Obi and other brilliant technocrats from the East. Just my opinion

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Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 4:34pm On Oct 31, 2010
Katsumoto:

That is a load of bullshit. No one can dispute the man's intellect but to ascribe the title of most qualified Nigerian is a bit much. He seems to have a lot of engineering and technical degrees; will those qualify him to run a bank or practice as a barrister or even as an accountant? Do not confuse having education titles with being a thoroughbred professional.

The question you should be asking yourself is, 'what is he the most qualified at doing?'.
If you could read better, you would have noticed that I said academically speaking, just emphasis being on the number of degrees he holds. Holding a degree is not a profession. In any case, if you read the guy's story more than cursorily, you will notice he is already carving a niche even in leadership and mobilization of people for a common good. Moreover, what is banking, accounting, etc compared to Engineering? The guy actually worked in a bank after his BSc as we read. Let an accountant work in an engineering firm as an engineer. I know many engineering graduates who work successfully as bankers, some even holding ICAN qualifications. I do not know of any lawyer or accountant who works as an engineer.

The guy who commented before me even alluded to Ndubuisi Ekekwe's greatness when he wrote, an I quote

timmy2409:

He was at my former uni about two years ago to lecture at some three-day workshop he organized himself-- which I happened to attend. This guy by every means is the greatest Nigerian I ever met. He's so down to earth and patriotism oozes out of his speech and actions. Although almost everyone present including lecturers at my uni, kinda worshiped him for holding the number of degrees he did, he took the time to speak to every body individually and respectfully. My roommate at the time also loved him simply for the fact that even though he had spent a relatively long amount of time in the West, he hadn't changed his igbo accent any bit (maybe the igbo accent is just too thick to be dropped grin jk). He made me, and hopefully everyone that also attended the workshop, believe we could do or be anything we wanted to. Greatest man I ever met.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 4:43pm On Oct 31, 2010
I know a Nigerian in Belgium who has 5 MSc degrees in:
Biology (from Nigeria)
Pharmaceutical Technology (Belgium)
Biostatistics (Belgium)
Biotechnology (Belgium)
Molecular Biology (Belgium)

Unfortunately, they were all acquired not for the purpose of immediate upliftment, but to enable him remain in that country legally since he would be asked to leave if he has nothing doing there. People have asked him to return to naija and contribute the knowledge since he has not put any of those degrees into use in Belgium. Last time I heard of him, dude still works as a car washer in Brussels. Yet I know that ten MScs are not one PhD, how much more two. Nobody calls him a doctor.lol

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Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Litmus: 4:56pm On Oct 31, 2010
Fish = oburu

Igbos eat or used to eat a lot of fish + add as Katsumoto stated = brilliancy
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 5:05pm On Oct 31, 2010
Akin-Egba:

If you could read better, you would have noticed that I said academically speaking, just emphasis being on the number of degrees he holds. Holding a degree is not a profession. In any case, if you read the guy's story more than cursorily, you will notice he is already carving a niche even in leadership and mobilization of people for a common good. Moreover, what is banking, accounting, etc compared to Engineering? The guy actually worked in a bank after his BSc as we read. Let an accountant work in an engineering firm as an engineer. I know many engineering graduates who work successfully as bankers, some even holding ICAN qualifications. I do not know of any lawyer or accountant who works as an engineer.

The guy who commented before me even alluded to Ndubuisi Ekekwe's greatness when he wrote, an I quote


What does it mean when one states 'the most qualified Nigerian, academically speaking?'. I will tell you what it means, it means bull-crap. Should engineers be working in banks or should lawyers be working as engineers. It appears that your thinking and outlook is influenced by the Nigerian situation. The reason why Engineers and every other kind of professional work in a bank in Nigeria is a result of the economic situation. It seems that you are alluding to the point that engineers are the most brilliant professionals in Nigeria since engineers can pass ICAN and lawyers can not pass engineering exams.

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Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 5:07pm On Oct 31, 2010
Litmus:

Fish = oburu

Igbos eat or used to eat a lot of fish + add as Katsumoto stated = brilliancy

Bro,

I did not get that; can you elucidate please?
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 5:11pm On Oct 31, 2010
Katsumoto:

It seems that you are alluding to the point that engineers are the most brilliant professionals in Nigeria since engineers can pass ICAN and lawyers can not pass engineering exams.

Academics is first and foremost about degrees on which term I maintain that this guy seems to be the most qualified in Nigeria. Afterward, the professional side of academics (teaching and research) comes in.

If you can pass my exams (for which subject you were not trained ab initio) but I cannot pass yours (for which subject I was not trained ab initio) does that not simply mean you are better than me?

In Naija, banking, accounting are for all comers. Anybody can study those shitttt
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 5:16pm On Oct 31, 2010
Akin-Egba:

If you can pass my exams (for which subject you were not trained ab initio) but I cannot pass yours (for which subject I was not trained ab initio) does that not simply mean you are better than me?



The question you should be asking is, 'why are engineers taking ICAN exams and accountants are not taking engineering exams?' Could it be because the banking industry is one of the strongest in Nigeria? Are History, Biochemistry, and Art majors not taking ICAN exams in Nigeria?
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 5:20pm On Oct 31, 2010
Katsumoto:

The question you should be asking is, 'why are engineers taking ICAN exams and accountants are not taking engineering exams?' Could it be because the banking industry is one of the strongest in Nigeria? Are History, Biochemistry, and Art majors not taking ICAN exams in Nigeria?

Which kain question be that? What has a strong banking industry got to do with this topic? The fact that anybody can pass ICAN tells you that it is shittt for all comers, the politics of it in naija apart. Let everybody/accountants go and pass engineering or even lab technology (which falls in the Biochemistry, etc purview) qualifications
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Katsumoto: 5:32pm On Oct 31, 2010
Akin-Egba:

Which kain question be that? What has a strong banking industry got to do with this topic? The fact that anybody can pass ICAN tells you that it is shittt for all comers, the politics of it in naija apart. Let everybody/accountants go and pass engineering or even lab technology (which falls in the Biochemistry, etc purview) qualifications

Are you suggesting that people should just attempt exams in disciplines that are different from theirs just to prove that they can pass them? In case you missed it, Nigerians looking for work have the motivation to attempt and pass ICAN and other banking associated exam so that they can secure job opportunities. Accountants do not have the motivation to pass engineering exams just for the sake of it.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by Litmus: 5:33pm On Oct 31, 2010
@Katsumoto


There was a sturdy which argues that seafood is good for the brain. It pointed to cultures around the world were fish is a staple, for example Japan and argued that, more often than not, the peoples' associated with the stated hypothetical question i.e Fish is Good For the Brian, appear smartest human-beings.

Now, i know how often scientific "facts" are challenged and dispelled, this is why few become theories, but i am sympathetic to the idea above.  In addition, your assertion of cultural influences, which plays a large part, as they become traditional, made me make the statement  that i made.  


With the statement that i made which you questioned, i was trying not to write too much but i have ended up doing so.
Re: Ndubuisi Ekekwe (Afrit) On Africa's Infotech Policy by AkinEgba: 5:40pm On Oct 31, 2010
Katsumoto:

Are you suggesting that people should just attempt exams in disciplines that are different from theirs just to prove that they can pass them? In case you missed it, Nigerians looking for work have the motivation to attempt and pass ICAN and other banking associated exam so that they can secure job opportunities. Accountants do not have the motivation to pass engineering exams just for the sake of it.

Nope! Even overseas, engineering professors are paid far higher than most others especially than those in arts and business. Engineering and science in general cannot be compared to accounting. In the USA, accountants have no special privilege like they appear to have in naija because of the strong banking sector relative to other sectors. What will the banks be managing if there is no industrial production (engineering, science)?

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