IS IT A SIN FOR MARRIED COUPLES TO USE CONDOMS?

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This post is an offshoot of a recent thread titled, "Are we truly safe when we commit sin with condoms?"

https://www.nairaland.com/5582353/truly-safe-when-commit-sin

That thread was primarily intended to use the Truth of Jesus Words to disprove the idea being sold by the world in the name of "safe sex", that someone who commits a sexual sin, let's say, adultery, using a condom could yet be truly safe.

But then a someone with the moniker @Prettyjanet1 pops up with this interesting question:

Prettyjanet1:
How about married couples using condoms? Is it a sin?

So that's obviously where I got the thread title from, and this was my answer to the question:

jesusjnr:
During sex with themselves? Except the sex between themselves is a sin, otherwise it is not a sin for me, because using condom is not a sin in itself in my opinion.

Thanks.

So married couples using condoms was not considered a sin to me then, and that corroborated my position on the Op of that thread that I wasn't against the use of condoms because I didn't believe that it was a bad thing.

But then came someone else with the moniker @Godsonjolly with the following question:

Godsonjolly:
If u say using condom is not a sin, can u then explain this
Genesis 38:9 (KJV) And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
Genesis 38:10 (KJV) And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

This was my response:

jesusjnr:
I believe he was killed for his intent of spilling his seed on the floor not the act itself.

The purpose of his sleeping with the wife of his brother was to raise up seed for his dead brother,
so if he didn't want to do so, he shouldn't have slept with her at all.

But he did so and yet spilled the seed on the floor, so that was a very wicked act before God, hence his death.

God bless.

Then he said:

Godsonjolly:
OK. Ever since that act, the Bible hasn't recorded such again. I don't really think married couples should use condom while mating. Children are gifts from God so let's raise as many seeds God wants us to have. Just saying from my own perspective on. No one should come judge me

But his comment seemed to make some sense to me, hence my response:

jesusjnr:
To be honest I'm more inclined to your line of thought, and would prefer married couples don't use condoms because I don't think it's perfect to do so.

So you have a point.

Thanks and God bless.

Therefore his comment agreed with my inclination on the use of condoms amongst married couples, because I believe that God should have the last say on the amount of kids a couple should have, even though at the time I didn't consider it to be a sin if they did so.

However the difference in this case was that I somehow just found it hard to include the part that "it was not a sin to me" in the final post of my conversation with him, as I did in my response to the first question, even though I had initially typed it. So I just had to chop that part off before posting, because at that point, it just felt quite uncomfortable to include it, as it just didn't seem right.

So it seemed my initial position about married couples using condoms during sex not being a sin had began to experience a bit of a wobble.

And to add to that uncertainty, there was a development I had noticed after making that thread, and it was the word "condom" suddenly beginning to feature in my tongues. But I felt very uncomfortable with that for obvious reasons, even though I had just done a thread that had something to do with that, as I had expected to move on from that since I had accomplished what I intended with that thread. So the last thing I was expecting was for it to start showing up in my tongues.

But it was later when I began to say "condom na sirin" repeatedly in tongues, that the picture began to become clearer of what the message appeared to be, as it sounded like "condom na sin" in pidgin English.

I began to have the feeling that perhaps the Holy Spirit wasn't pleased with the impression I had given about the use of condoms on the Op of that thread, where I said that I wasn't against the use of condoms and didn't believe that it was a bad thing, so that i would correct it.

But it was when I came back to the thread and saw where I had categorically responded to @Prettyjanet1's question, and said that use of condoms by married couples wasn't a sin, and had followed my responses up til the final response I gave on that same matter, where I was no longer comfortable to say it was a sin as i had done initially, that it became much clearer to me what actually happened then, and what that had to do with my spoken tongues about condoms.

So I believe the message of the Spirit of God is that it is a sin in God's sight for marriage couples to use condoms, just as that brother @Godsonjolly had insinuated, to correct my initial response that it wasn't a sin.

And though I don't think it's a sin that could lead married couples to hell, I believe that God is not happy when married couples use condoms during sex, as it usurps Him of His right as the One who determines giving kids or not in a marriage.

This may have been one of the things that displeased God concerning Onan that made Him slay him as was suggested by @Godsonjolly, for in the Bible days there were no condoms, so child bearing among married couples was solely God's prerogative, therefore Onan may have also dishonored God by what he did.

This is not intended to frighten or judge married couples, however I believe that especially for christians, it's best to follow the examples given in the Bible where childbearing in marriage was usually attributed to God, and the amount of children was determined by Him, so that condoms would not take God's place in determining how many kids they have.

That would obviously require married couples completely trusting God concerning childbearing, but i believe the marriages of those do so surely shall surely reap the rewards of them placing such extent of trust in God, because God alone best knows how many children a married couple should have.

God bless.

So condom was also mentioned in the bible?

OP, So you've never heard of family planning?

This concept of sin has kept Africa backward for way too long. Condom is one of man's best invention, just imagine a world, where for every sex encounter; a progeny is born. Then we would be walking on peoples head by now.

Its questions like this that make people think Christians are stupid.

From the beginning of time, and before the manufacturing of condoms, societies have always found a way to do birth control. Wether by neutralizing the sperm with chemicals from nature, withdrawing before ejaculation or by timing the ovulation cycle.

Sin on its part is simply rebellion against God. Choosing to impregnate or not to impregnate your wife in itself, has nothing to do with rebelling against God.

Therefore, the story of Onan must be understood for what it is and also in its proper context. Onan had a duty to perform as a kinsman but did not carry out the obligation he voluntarily signed up for.

According to custom...he could have politely refused jejely and let the woman move on with her life by marrying another kinsman or a non relation altogether. Instead, Onan chose to cheat the system by using a simple trick.

First, he dishonored and betrayed his brother, and second he kept stealing from the innocent woman by enjoying her body but repeatedly failing to fulfill his part of the bargain to continue his brother's line by impregnating the woman.
He thought he was smart but the God who sees everything and fights for widows executed justice on him for his wickedness.
Fire is neither good nor bad...its just fire! but when you deliberately use fire to burn down your neighbours house...then you are the wicked one and not the fire .

This topic further explains why people say that over religious fellows are not logical in reasoning.

Just like some meaningless topics we see on Fridays

otipoju:
Na all these kain stupid questions dey make people think sey christians are stupid.

From the beginning of time, and before the manufacturing of condoms societies have always found a way to do birth control. Wether by neutralizing the sperm with chemicals, withdrawal method or by timing the ovulation cycles.

Sin is rebellion against God and choosing not to impregnate your wife has nothing to do with rebelling against God.

The story of Onan must be understood for what it is. Onan had a duty to perform but did not ...he could have politely refused and let the woman move on with her life, jejely but instead chose cheat the system. He dishonored his brother, and kept stealing from the innocent woman by enjoying her body but failing to fulfill his part of the bargain.

He thought he was smart but God sees everything and executed justice on him for his wickedness.

Fire is neither good nor bad...its just fire but when you deliberately use fire to burn down your neighbours house...then you are the wicked one and not the fire .

If you went through the Op, you see that the bolded mirrors my initial response to the Onan question.

To follow the leading of the Spirit is a stupid thing in the sight of the world.

John 3:8 (KJV)

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

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7 reasons married couples might choose to use condoms:

1.Maybe one or both of them is unfaithful.

2.Maybe one or both of them has an infection.
Maybe one of them was born HIV positive.
Maybe one of them contracted herpes from a previous partner, or from childhood sexual abuse, and doesn't want to infect the other. Maybe one of them works in a career that has them coming into regular contact with blood-borne pathogens.

3.Maybe they don't want children yet or ever, but the woman can't take hormonal birth control because she has cardiovascular disease and it would put her at high risk for stroke, or because it gives her severe nausea.

4.Maybe it's against her religion, or she just doesn't like synthetic hormones in her body. Maybe condoms are a back-up in addition to birth control pills for a woman who is known to be forgetful with taking them, or has gotten pregnant while being on the pill before and prefers a condom as a safety net.

5.Maybe they like condoms. Maybe they think the ones that have warming and cooling sensations, or ribbed ones with tingling lube, feel good and add to their sexual enjoyment.

6.Maybe they want to prolong the sexual encounter and make the man last longer before having an orgasm.Maybe their favorite part of the sexual encounter is holding each other afterwards, and condoms make it such that they can lay there and cuddle with minimal interruption for clean-up.

7.Maybe one or both of them was raped by someone not wearing a condom, and bare ejaculation in the body is triggering and traumatic.

Have a nice Xmas Week ahead Everyone!

All these Christian Brothers and Sisters no go let person rest today

Smh..... Even oyibo that gave us the Bible are doing family planning... While stupid Africans are still holding on to the "Go into the world and multiply" verse in the Bible..

As it is now We are already drowning in population, and there are not enough jobs... I wonder how this continent go be like come 2050.

Africans and stupidity... Never proactive, always reactive.

African Nations Not Creating Enough Jobs for Booming Youth Population

Wetin Charlie no go see for Ghana

As a matter of fact this is a stupid question. to use
your brain na sin again ? didn't the bible say a man that cannot take care of his family is worse than an infidel ?

Ok

This question is ......................................?

I zik

Biology determines how many children you'll have.

Inasmuch as you should trust God to determine your life, God has also given us intellect to ensure that we can take decisions of our own. You don't go eating trash food and saying God is the one who determines who becomes ill... You take precautions to ensure that you get the kind of health you want.

God killed a man not necessarily for using withdrawal method, but because he didn't want to propagate his brother's lineage which was his duty.

These dumb Christians with silly questions every sundays.

I blame the admin who bring this to front page

Lol Ofcourse not

Well as a Christian and a Catholic using any form of sex protection apart from billings method is a sin

Lol.
I can't even laugh.
As if our population is not enough in this Country.

One said "raise as many seeds as possible"

Haqhaqhaq.

They dun know...
They dunno whais going on.

It is because it reduces your genitals sensitivity and in turn reduces your sexual pleasure which is not right in the eyes of the creator...

So there's even a withdrawal method in the Bible

I'm never using CD with my wife, after all na only 1 pikin I wan born.

No it's not.

Sometimes, using condom in a marriage is necessary... unwanted children, minor STD diseases... etc. (By minor STD diseases, i mean those less than the almighty syphilis n gonorhea) there are many situations where partners can still have small scratch scratch STDs that are resistant to antibiotics and hardly go away..in such cases, it is advisable for them to use condoms...not a sin at all

No.

NigPatriot:

OP, So you've never heard of family planning?

This concept of sin has kept Africa backward for way too long. Condom is one of man's best invention, just imagine a world, where for every sex encounter; a progeny is born. Then we would be walking on peoples head by now.

The thing tire me o. No wonder China is cracking down on religious excesses. Not to become another shithole.