Jman06:
Real Igbos have since abandoned the idea of Biafra and embraced one Nigeria. Only misguided people still get deceived by Kanu and his cohorts.

However, I think it is the north that need to call themselves to order and decide if they really want ONE NIGERIA or they're just interested in Niger delta oil while deceiving the rest of us with the talk of one Nigeria.
If afterwards they decide that we should remain one, then we all should come together and fashion out how best to exist as a nation whose citizens would be proud to identify with and ready to take up arms to defend when the need arises. Only then can we be qualified to be addressed as a NATION.

I don't know if any of our leaders ever thinks about what would happen should Nigeria go into war with another country today. It may sound like a joke but believe me that many supposedly "Nigerians" would join forces with the enemy country and fight against Nigeria! The reason is simply because we ain't yet existing as a truly united Nigeria but a bunch of aimless entities with many disgruntled elements.

gidgiddy:
In 2010, a Scottish man called Gordon Brown was prime minister of Britain. But that year, the agitation for Scottish independence was at its highest. Scotland was agitating for independence before their son became prime minister, and stepped it up when he became prime minister

Two years later, Britain agreed to give Scotland independence referendum. In 2014, Scotland had its independence referendum

Regardless of who is President, or wants to be president, Igbos have the right to self determination

gidgiddy:
In 2010, a Scottish man called Gordon Brown was prime minister of Britain. But that year, the agitation for Scottish independence was at its highest. Scotland was agitating for independence before their son became prime minister, and stepped it up when he became prime minister

Two years later, Britain agreed to give Scotland independence referendum. In 2014, Scotland had its independence referendum

Regardless of who is President, or wants to be president, Igbos have the right to self determination

Rekhina:
Come n see how afonja slave masters will defend the almajiris

Cyberterror:
Convenient for you to use Scotland as example. What about Catalonia? How did that go?

0monnak0da:
There is nothing wrong with a referendum.
The question is do your elected representatives truly represent you?
If they do then how come there has not been a single resolution passed In any one of your state Houses of Assembly?
How come none of your governors has called for it?
Not one of your legislators in the National Assembly has ever asked for a referendum?
Who voted all these people?
Who do they represent?

The Scottish National party is a party with independence as its manifesto?

Why cannot the Ibo use the democratic process?
Why can't Lamidi Kano contest election and push his referendum agenda?
Why has he chosen the path of violence and insurrection as First Resort?
Who gave him a mandate?

gidgiddy:


The point here is that at no time did other British people tell Scottish people that they cannot aspire to the highest political office in Britain, the prime minister, and agitate for referendum at the same time.

Scotland aspired and got both the Prime minister and referendum

gidgiddy:


Part of getting referendum is agitation and protest. It is through protest you let the whole world know that you want independence.

Nigeria has already signed up to the international laws that allows people the right to agitate for self determination. Article 20 of the AU convention has already allowed any group to agitate for referendum

If there was no right of self determination, Britain would still own Nigeria, they created it.

gidgiddy:


Then that means you dont know Igbos. Igbo people are democrats. No matter which Igbo accepted or rejected Biafra, they will all tell you that they are for a referendum to let majority decide. This is exactly the message of Nnamdi Kanu. It is Nigeria that is anti-democratic by insisting that everyone must accept "one Nigeria" wether they like it or not.



Laughable. If this Oil had been in the North, they would have declared "Arewa Republic" long before Ojukwu declared Biafra abd there would be nothing called Nigeria today.



If Nigeria got into a war with another country, most Igbos like me will see the country fighting Nigeria as those who have come to liberate us.

Area4Area:
So any group can agitate for referendum and self determination without anything to show they are representing the people, as in, being elected by the people.
So a group of miscreants or motor park touts can wake up and carry placards demanding for referendum and they must be given?

Kanu lives in London I suppose, why is it difficult for for him to take a walk or ride to the parliament and speak to any MP to educate him on how they got a referendum and secession in their law?

gidgiddy:


The Nigerian constitution allows anybody the right to protest about anything. If I like, I can take a placard and protest that I want snow to fall in Enugu.

Anybody in Nigeria has the right to publicly protest for a referendum.

0monnak0da:
There is nothing wrong with a referendum.
The question is do your elected representatives truly represent you?
If they do then how come there has not been a single resolution passed In any one of your state Houses of Assembly?
How come none of your governors has called for it?
Not one of your legislators in the National Assembly has ever asked for a referendum?
Who voted all these people?
Who do they represent?

The Scottish National party is a party with independence as its manifesto?

Why cannot the Ibo use the democratic process?
Why can't Lamidi Kano contest election and push his referendum agenda?
Why has he chosen the path of violence and insurrection as First Resort?
Who gave him a mandate?

gidgiddy:


The Nigerian constitution allows anybody the right to protest about anything. If I like, I can take a placard and protest that I want snow to fall in Enugu.

Anybody in Nigeria has the right to publicly protest for a referendum.

0monnak0da:

So we agree that the protests led by IPOB are as absurd as a protest calling for snow?We have seen no evidence that IPOB are popular They can easily test their popularity at the polls

Area4Area:
Can you site the particular section of the constitution that allows you as a Nigerian to publicly protest for a referendum.

gidgiddy:


What may be absurd to you, may be serious to another person. Nigeria is made up of different people with different mindset, different values and different ideologies.

I dont think that IPOB needs to prove its popularity, its already done that with its mass protests. To this day, I havent seen any group in Igbo land protesting for "one Nigeria"

0monnak0da:


IPOB has to act within the law.
You keep citing rights to self determination, talking about Scotland.

Simple question
to achieve Biafra do yo think the lawful democratic process should be followed?
Do you think violence is the way to go?
Is that how they achieved a referendum in Scotland?
This is not a game and has to be approached like adults
If you want a referendum elect governors and senators who can advocate for Biafra through lawful democratic means.
The alternative is to take up arms

gidgiddy:


You are asking stupid questions. IPOB was declared a terrorist organisation by your Nigerian government in September 2017, so whatever they have done since then no longer matters since they are terrorists.

But before September 2017, what exactly did they do?

They protested for Biafra and referendum? The law allows them to protest anything they like

They made threatening utterances? Nobody becomes a terrorist just by talking

Were they armed or killed anybody? No

So how are they violent?

They are acted within the law and if you think that they should join politics and elect representatives that will push their referendum for them, its up to IPOB to decide if they want to go down that route.

What matters is if they were lawful.

Even the armed Fulani Herdsmen who kill thousands of Nigerians every year, rape many women, burn down communities, they will never be declared terrorists in Nigeria

But unarmed IPOB who only staged protests and made utterances, that was enough for your Nigerian Government to declare them terrorists

Area4Area:


@1st statement, can you tell us or provide us with a link as to when you conducted a vote to determine that all Igbos want a referendum or maybe you mean IPOB members. Igbo leaders like Zik, Ironsi and Ojukwu should be blamed for one Nigeria so stop blaming other Nigerians.

@2nd, blame same Igbo leaders above

@3rd, use IPOB and stop equating both as same because you want to garner sympathy from other Nigerians.
IPOB knows it has soiled its name and is doing everything to attaché by force to the great Igbo identity.

gidgiddy:


Section 4 of the Nigerian constitution allows anybody freedom of expression, freedom of movement and freedom to hold opinion. It even allows freedom of 'belief'. All these allows people the freedom to protest about anything

If you are looking for a specific law that allows freedom to protest for referendum, there is none, sane as there is none to protest about any particular issue.

Its like asking if there is any law that specifically allows the NLC to protest for wage increase? It doesnt exist but NLC protest about wage increase all the time. Everyone has right of protest, the law does not care what you protest about, it only cares that you have the right to protest

enemybulldozer:
The answer to your 1st statement is Yes. Majority of the Igbos want a Referendum.

This your rubbish you keep propagating concerning Zik, ironsi and ojukwu can never fly, not when people like us are on social media. There is no way a sane person will leave the arse that farts and give the head a hard knock. Lugard and his cohorts are to be blame as far as nigger-area is concerned.

2ndly, tell me why we should blame the people you mentioned.

3rdly, is Ipob different from Igbos?? The people that made up Ipob are they from Mali or Chad?? The way you reason most times baffles me.

Area4Area:
So any group can agitate for referendum and self determination without anything to show they are representing the people, as in, being elected by the people.
So a group of miscreants or motor park touts can wake up and carry placards demanding for referendum and they must be given?

Kanu lives in London I suppose, why is it difficult for for him to take a walk or ride to the parliament and speak to any MP to educate him on how they got a referendum and secession in their law?

gidgiddy:


You are asking stupid questions. IPOB was declared a terrorist organisation by your Nigerian government in September 2017, so whatever they have done since then no longer matters since they are terrorists.

But before September 2017, what exactly did they do?

They protested for Biafra and referendum? The law allows them to protest anything they like

They made threatening utterances? Nobody becomes a terrorist just by talking

Were they armed or killed anybody? No

So how are they violent?

They are acted within the law and if you think that they should join politics and elect representatives that will push their referendum for them, its up to IPOB to decide if they want to go down that route.

What matters is if they were lawful.

Even the armed Fulani Herdsmen who kill thousands of Nigerians every year, rape many women, burn down communities, they will never be declared terrorists in Nigeria

But unarmed IPOB who only staged protests and made utterances, that was enough for your Nigerian Government to declare them terrorists

enemybulldozer:
Power belongs to the people. But Sai babarians like you will never understand. A group of organized people can agitate for Referendum.

And for your info, those people you see as miscreants and motor park touts are better than you. At least they have a working brain to know that nigger-area is a fraud and a disaster when people like you are too blind to see or notice.

Area4Area:
Provide us on when and how you conducted the voting for or against having a referendum.

@2nd paragraph has been discussed here and won't bore myself going over and over it again.

IPOB doesn't equate to Igbo, you don't force your ideology on a people because you feel it's your right, face your ideology and allow the Igbos to face theirs.

Area4Area:
Why are you and those miscreants not agitating for the referendum right now, are you scared of something we don't know or maybe you feel your agitation starts and ends on nairaland?

enemybulldozer:
I've made it clear to you countless times that Ipob is Igbo, Igbo is Ipob two of them are like both sides of the same coin. Do you think you Afonjas can divide them the way you people did between Igbos and their SS Brothers?? That's not possible.

Here is the evidence that shows Igbos want Referendum to restore biafra.

enemybulldozer:
I don't understand what you mean. Do you think the agitation has stopped??

Area4Area:
We don't want to be disappointed by "we shall, we will" sentences, agitate and get the Biafra fast