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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by backnbeta(f): 6:52am On Feb 01, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Why didn't the ban affect Saudi Arabia then?

The sooner you understand Trump's hate for the anything black the better.
Trump's hatred for blacks and browns is not disputed sir. But let's face reality; all blacks are hated by Trump, but some blacks are more hated because of the extreme views undecided
Besides, Saudi is of more economic importance than our beloved Nigeria.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Iamgrey5(m): 6:54am On Feb 01, 2020
solmus:


Trump would rather sell Arms to Saudi and personally use US Navy ships to guard Aramco oil asset..

i laugh hard when some ignorant people thinks he cares
I am amazed to read people think Trump is actually a Christian who cares about religion..

Trump don't give a Bleep about Africans

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by solmus: 7:01am On Feb 01, 2020
Iamgrey5:
I am amazed to read people think Trump is actually a Christian who cares about religion..

Trump don't give a Bleep about Africans

I told an ignorant friend that people like Trump only go to church for funerals.. nothing christlike about him.. Isnt it insulting that the most populous black nation with Africas largest LNG deposit and one of OPECs largest crude Oil producers are being rubished and we are being called shithole while some people with low self esteem rejioce...

Take out our 2.5bpd crude production, or our LNG then this racist red neck would start buying fuel for 20 dollars a gallon.. truly nigeria is deeply underated

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Kamanuozuzu: 7:01am On Feb 01, 2020
Nnamdi Kanu's lobby is paying off.

#TheZooMustFall
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 7:01am On Feb 01, 2020
spyglaxx:


Must it be Uk? Why not other European country.
Which other European country provides an easy path to citizenship?Other European countries give priority to European citizens when it comes to jobs. What kind of lifestyle are Nigerians living in other European countries and what kind of jobs are they engaged in?

UK was the best country to settle in. We share the same language and have historical links.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by solmus: 7:03am On Feb 01, 2020
backnbeta:

Trump's hatred for blacks and browns is not disputed sir. But let's face reality; all blacks are hated by Trump, but some blacks are more hated because of the extreme views undecided
Besides, Saudi is of more economic importance than our beloved Nigeria.

what is extreme in Nigerias veiw, cant you see what Turkey is doing isnt it extreme? isnt Americas forceful occupation of countries and raining bomb on them to steal resources extreme, or isnt Saudi's role in Iran very extreme?

Which country in modern history have killed more civillians as US?

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Iamgrey5(m): 7:10am On Feb 01, 2020
backnbeta:

Trump's hatred for blacks and browns is not disputed sir. But let's face reality; all blacks are hated by Trump, but some blacks are more hated because of the extreme views undecided
Besides, Saudi is of more economic importance than our beloved Nigeria.
But Saudi also have extreme views !

Why not ban them

Anyway, how many Nigerians have been involved in terrorist attacks in America before.

And will banning Immigrant visas for Nigeria improve security in America.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by spyglaxx: 7:13am On Feb 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

Which other European country provides an easy path to citizenship?Other European countries give priority to European citizens when it comes to jobs. What kind of lives and jobs are Nigerians in other European countries engaged in?

UK was the best country to settle in. We share the same language and have historical links.

Well explained.
But why can't we explore some other african countries like Mauritius and Egypt?
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by backnbeta(f): 7:20am On Feb 01, 2020
solmus:


what is extreme in Nigerias veiw, cant you see what Turkey is doing isnt it extreme? isnt Americas forceful occupation of countries and raining bomb on them to steal resources extreme, or isnt Saudi's role in Iran very extreme?

Which country in modern history have killed more civillians as US?
Like Yorubas will say: Eni ti won fe sun Nina to n Fe po para...he who is to be roasted has rubbed his body with oil, thereby making the roasting process smoother and easier for the roaster. We are all agreed on the fact that Trump hates blacks, why do we need to justify his hatred with our actions and inactions? Those countries you listed up there are economically viable countries who can hold their own, with or without the US. We overstay our visas everywhere we travel to, we burn American flags and protest anytime America has issues with terrorists! That's enough red flag my brother...our northern Muslim brothers and sisters have shown their hatred for America, let's deal with it
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by backnbeta(f): 7:25am On Feb 01, 2020
Iamgrey5:
But Saudi also have extreme views !

Why not ban them

Anyway, how many Nigerians have been involved in terrorist attacks in America before.

And will banning Immigrant visas for Nigeria improve security in America.

You are right sir, unfortunately, we can't fight it. Like we all know, Saudi is economically more viable than Nigeria despite our oil. Do you think they like Saudi that much? No! The day Saudi's economy hits rock bottom and they become useless to the US, the day their many 'sins' come to light.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by mu2sa2: 7:33am On Feb 01, 2020
Litmus:


You don't understand the West and it's racial obsessions. Men like Trump love black criminals, it's successful blacks they don't like. Above visa overstaying, cyba crime, Trump hates Nigerians because Nigerians are successful in America and in so doing challenging some of the foundations on which there racial philosophy is built. In addition, people like Trump have the ears of groups like the Indians for whome Nigerians are a challenge. They don't mind Nigerian cyber criminals as much as Nigerians threatening to be so good they could be employed in large numbers in silicone vally as much as they are employed in hospitals as doctors. The less Nigerians taking advantage of the 'Minorities Benefits' African Americans fought for the more space for Indians, Hispanics and others to take those advantages for instance places at Harvard.
GBAM!

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by solmus: 7:39am On Feb 01, 2020
backnbeta:

Like Yorubas will say: Eni ti won fe sun Nina to n Fe po para...he who is to be roasted has rubbed his body with oil, thereby making the roasting process smoother and easier for the roaster. We are all agreed on the fact that Trump hates blacks, why do we need to justify his hatred with our actions and inactions? Those countries you listed up there are economically viable countries who can hold their own, with or without the US. We overstay our visas everywhere we travel to, we burn American flags and protest anytime America has issues with terrorists! That's enough red flag my brother...our northern Muslim brothers and sisters have shown their hatred for America, let's deal with it

well you have a point about some Nigerians over staying, but doesnt mean all Nigerians over stay and regardless trump was wrong to ban everyone.. as for burning of flags by few northern youths.. i bet Trump cares less about that

the fact is that Buhari is trading with Russia and China and this is worrisome to US, with Russia aggreeing to complete Ajaokuta, and even promissing to build us two nuclear plant with a soft loan on top of that they gave us Apache helicopters which Americans would want us to wait till 2022 after paying 300million usd for mere super tucano turbo prop plane (planes with fan engine, not jet) this is upseting Trump

Over Staying rate of US visa by Nigerians have drastically reduced because of reduced Visa issuiance, even when it was on the rise Trump did nothing until we started looking for trade with the russians

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by chiron(m): 8:52am On Feb 01, 2020
solmus:


well you have a point about some Nigerians over staying, but doesnt mean all Nigerians over stay and regardless trump was wrong to ban anyone.. as for burning of flags by few northern youths.. i bet Trump cares less about that

the fact is that Buhari is trading with Russia and China and this is worrisome to US, with Russia aggreeing to complete Ajaokuta, and even promissing to build us two nuclear plant with a soft loan on top of that they gave us Apache helicopters which Americans would want us to wait till 2022 after paying 300million usd for mere super tucano turbo prop plane (planes with fan engine, not jet) this is upseting Trump

Over Staying rate of US visa by Nigerians have drastically reduced because of reduced Visa issuiance, even when it was on the rise Trump did nothing until we started looking for trade with the russians

Finally someone with a detailed reason and proper logical explanation not some hillbilly cock and bull idiotic crap

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by chiron(m): 9:02am On Feb 01, 2020
solmus:


well you have a point about some Nigerians over staying, but doesnt mean all Nigerians over stay and regardless trump was wrong to ban everyone.. as for burning of flags by few northern youths.. i bet Trump cares less about that

the fact is that Buhari is trading with Russia and China and this is worrisome to US, with Russia aggreeing to complete Ajaokuta, and even promissing to build us two nuclear plant with a soft loan on top of that they gave us Apache helicopters which Americans would want us to wait till 2022 after paying 300million usd for mere super tucano turbo prop plane (planes with fan engine, not jet) this is upseting Trump

Over Staying rate of US visa by Nigerians have drastically reduced because of reduced Visa issuiance, even when it was on the rise Trump did nothing until we started looking for trade with the russians

And the overstaying visa point is just a flimsy reason. Due to our worsening economy and very low recent economic importance, increase of the activities of many Islamic terrorist groups the...Americans don't want to deal with a Syrian type immigration from the largest black immigrants to the US. So this ban is a plan for the future in case our country implodes and then the US is safe from immigrants, Islamic terrorists and unwanted elements. Therefore, due to recent news in Nigeria(ISWAP, BOKO HARAM, BANDITS, ANSARU, FUNALI HERDSMEN e.t.c we are on track to their prediction. Phuck unemployment rate is so high the National Bureau of Statistics don't want release the stats that's how low we've fallen
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by solmus: 9:04am On Feb 01, 2020
chiron:


And the overstaying visa point is just a flimsy reason. Due to our worsening economy and very low recent economic importance, increase of the activities of many Islamic terrorist groups the...Americans don't want to deal with a Syrian type immigration from the largest black immigrants to the US. So this ban is a plan for the future in case our country implodes and then the US is safe from immigrants, Islamic terrorists and unwanted elements. Therefore, due to recent news in Nigeria(ISWAP, BOKO HARAM, BANDITS, ANSARU, FUNALI HERDSMEN e.t.c we are on track to their prediction. Phuck unemployment rate is so high the National Bureau of Statistics don't want release the stats that's how low we've fallen

they know we are time bomb that could explode before 2023
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 9:11am On Feb 01, 2020
backnbeta:

Lies. What's the percentage of 'successful' Nigerians in US compared to that of Chinese or Indians in US? If your analogy is right, won't Trump really hate the smart Asians and ban them from coming over to US instead?
Forget the overstay story, they can always fish them out of the system. Nigeria is on that list because of terrorism and extreme jihadist views undecided
You have time for him, men like me don't glorify proud dummies.
Nigerians always think the world revolves around them. In America today, Nigerians don't contribute nothing compared to what Chinese, Indians Mexicans and even Kenyans contribute yet we make the loudest noise. By the way, how many Nigerians are US citizens by the way?

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Hotspotbro(m): 9:15am On Feb 01, 2020
There are other countries, abi. No b Yankee only. Burma, china, Taiwan, Finland, france dey too.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by 7lives: 10:48am On Feb 01, 2020
solmus:


Trump would rather sell Arms to Saudi and personally use US Navy ships to guard Aramco oil asset..

i laugh hard when some ignorant people thinks he cares

You just make my day, Trump don't like economic refugees, all about the Benjamin.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by valentineuwakwe(m): 12:25pm On Feb 01, 2020
I disagree on these, instead of targeting the Nigerian people let the US target those in gov't who have failed to provide a simple unified identity management database....imagine a country with multiple identity schemes.....International passport, National population birth certificate, National identity card, Voters card, Bank verification Number , both temporary and permanent, then this new one called NIMC that will soon be abandoned again.....
Our leaders knows wat to do yet plays dumb....I wept for this country
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 12:27pm On Feb 01, 2020
spyglaxx:


Well explained.
But why can't we explore some other african countries like Mauritius and Egypt?
They don't like Nigerians in those countries. We are hated in almost every country, due to the activities of some bad eggs and contrary to beliefs, it is not because they are jealous of our 'success' and 'wealth'.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 12:36pm On Feb 01, 2020
Hotspotbro:
There are other countries, abi. No b Yankee only. Burma, china, Taiwan, Finland, france dey too.
What is the chance of a Nigerian rising to the top in the corporate world or becoming a successful entreprenuer in the countries listed. America was the only country in the world that offered the chance to Nigerians to prosper and get to the top of their professions up to board management level in fortune 500 companies.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 12:53pm On Feb 01, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Exactly, this visa ban is not justifiable at all.

MANY Nigerians living and working (paying taxes) in America would be affected by this new law as they would not be able to renew their visas or face huge difficulty in getting visas after expiration.

THE problem was with non-immigrant visas, why ban the immigrant visas.

This is very discriminatory towards Africa.

It is not discriminatory to Africa because the following countries are not listed:Congo,South Africa,Kenya,Sierra Leone,Togo,Cameroun,Morocco,Namibia,Botswana,Zambia,Mozambique...just to name a few.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 1:17pm On Feb 01, 2020
This is the Nigeria led by Buhari that sat for an exam administered by the US and we failed woefully.

Ghana = A1
Kenya = A1
Nigeria = F9
Togo- A1
Benin Republic - A1
Congo - A1
Cameroun -A1
Gabon - A1
Guinea - A1
Senegal - A1
South Africa - A1


But Buhari why?
Sunnymatey
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by spyglaxx: 1:50pm On Feb 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

They don't like Nigerians in those countries. We are hated in almost every country, due to the activities of some bad eggs and contrary to beliefs, it is not because they are jealous of our 'success' and 'wealth'.

Uhmmn.. Means the only option is to carry our own cross.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 2:02pm On Feb 01, 2020
spyglaxx:


Uhmmn.. Means the only option is to carry our own cross.
Unfotunately-we do. Consequences of being a failed state.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Hotspotbro(m): 2:28pm On Feb 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

What is the chance of a Nigerian rising to the top in the corporate world or becoming a successful entreprenuer in the countries listed. America was the only country in the world that offered the chance to Nigerians to prosper and get to the top of their professions up to board management level in fortune 500 companies.
(clears his ass) son, America ain't heaven. U could also make big bucks providing things people don't have in their own country e.g some Island nations have no good electricity. The French, brits, Dutch do that (exploitation )if only Nigerians could exploit Bosnia, serbia, Tuvalu, those places..
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 2:46pm On Feb 01, 2020
Hotspotbro:
(clears his ass) son, America ain't heaven. U could also make big bucks providing things people don't have in their own country e.g some Island nations have no good electricity. The French, brits, Dutch do that (exploitation )if only Nigerians could exploit Bosnia, serbia, Tuvalu, those places..
America is the land of opportunity where regardless of race you could attain you pull life potential. Blacks hold 13% of management positions in Fortune 500 companies,which other country in the world has the same statistics for blacks?
This is one of the biggest blows to Nigerians. A country where only the fantastically corrupt prosper.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Hotspotbro(m): 2:48pm On Feb 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

America is the land of opportunity where regardless of race you could attain you pull life potential. Blacks hold 13 of management positions in Fortune 500 companies,which other country in the world has the same statistics for blacks.
This is one of the biggest blows to Nigerians. A country where only the fantastically corrupt prosper.
Naija done tire me but I know that the ban will be lifted. I wanna leave the fucking country too. But this racist president should be dealt with.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 3:02pm On Feb 01, 2020
Lol false info and hysteria for no reason... the ban is on immigrant visa applications from consulates in the banned countries... cannot bring ur spouse, parents or fam members from NG to the states n have them attain green cards n citizenship over time. Sponsoring them to come over will no longer be as routine. Believe it or not, really good lawyers($$$) can still help u do it.

Regular b1/b2 can still be obtained, but ofc subject to the judgement of the officer at the consulate. Ur statement and travel history shld save u.

Ask any friends of urs who work in an FTSE 250 co over there and they'd tell u about the mails legal shot round to int'l staff over the past few weeks. Those out dont really have a problem. It's processing the immigrant visa papers from here.

The chief reason is improper, inadequate identity mgmt/controls.

NG harbours dangerous groups and ppl ( well we know this). The US cannot confidently vouch for ppl coming from such countries. But ofc we know it's trash. However from their angle how can they tell that fmr militia members and criminals arent making their way from Nigeria. Worsened by the fact that NG cannot even on its own verify the identities of such ppl.

We have also definitely fallen afoul of the evangelical and religious rights groups lobbies. Muslim plurality nation where perceived non Muslims are killed in muslim areas.... inability of law enforcement to execute meaningful actions to curb the different issues is also further proof of lack of internal controls within the country...

So pls leave those ppl u mentioned. The money, scams and drugs we think we r moving,l is nothing compared to what Asians and Russians are doing... they're not banning them.

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Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 3:07pm On Feb 01, 2020
Dasuks:


So pls leave those ppl u mentioned. The money, scams and drugs we think we r moving,l is nothing compared to what Asians and Russians are doing... they're not banning them.
How can you leave them out, when they contributed to Nigeria being a failed state where nothing works?
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Litmus: 4:01pm On Feb 01, 2020
There is a limited but still useful parallel to draw between collective Nigerians in America and collective Igbo in Nigeria. The crux of the matter is that both are groups too powerful for the influence they do not wield in America and Nigeria respectively. For our purpose America is a land of interloper immigrants with only Native Americans spiritually and philosophically justified for the paternalistic role held by EuroAmericans.

In Nigeria and America, ethnicity and race informs position to power respectively. Just as Igbo need to play a smatter political game in Nigeria, Nigerians in America need to be more strategic.
Re: That Brought USA Travel Ban by Nobody: 4:06pm On Feb 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

How can you leave them out, when they contributed to Nigeria being a failed state where nothing works?

well to hell with them as well. I'm just saying that the considerations behind such a broad action, go beyond the misadventures of those individuals.

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