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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by cosef: 9:13pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:


Shekau is a terrorist because he makes videos proclaiming himself a terrorist.

There is no evidence Abacha is a looter, so if you gonna accuse him of looting you gotta go to court and convict him.

Abacha that budgeted a measly N1 million for all the road in the East, while people were dying everyday on Onitsha-Owerri road until OBJ dualized it. Yet he was stashing billions of dollars abroad. Abooki illiterate close ya mouth.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 9:17pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:


Since you are so acquainted with the court cases, tell me what evidence if any that Obasanjo's govt presented to proof Abacha was a looter.

You're being daft the case wasnt brought by Obasanjo. It was brought by the us with assistance from Nigeria. I gave you the information already looter apologist. You're foolishness on this topic shows why you shouldn't worship men. You're reduced to idiotic questions and inane comments.

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 9:47pm On Feb 05, 2020
Blue3k:


You're being daft the case wasnt brought by Obasanjo. It was brought by the us with assistance from Nigeria. I gave you the information already looter apologist. You're foolishness on this topic shows why you shouldn't worship men. You're reduced to idiotic questions and inane comments.
pathetic!
clearly you are clueless on this issue.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 10:28pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:
pathetic!
clearly you are clueless on this issue.

Lol you and Buhari both turn mumu over Abacha. You're talking about Obasanjo when the Abacha loot case filed in 2013 by US Department of Justice shows hes a thief. I guess you cant fix stupid keep worshipping your looter corruption apologist.

Abacha stole alot money and laundered it all over the planet. The swiss case was settled out court. The government was able to prove he was a theif. They simply agree to let his criminal family keep 100 million dollars.

According to the Swiss Ministry of Foreign Affairs, $700 million were returned to Nigeria.

(Source: Swiss Ministry of Foreign Affairs, September 30, 2009; see also, The Federal

Authorities of the Swiss Confederation, "Out-of-court settlement in the Abacha case - Nigeria to receive more than a billion USD; The countries concerned cooperate in the implementation
of the settlement," April 17, 2002.) In 2001, the Abacha family and associates reached an
agreement with the Nigerian government to release $1.3 billion frozen in Switzerland,
Liechtenstein and Luxembourg in exchange for being able to keep $100 million.
According to
Attorney Enrico Monfrini (lawyer for Nigeria), "Thanks to the thorough investigation in the
Geneva domestic criminal proceedings, the criminal origin of the funds was clearly
demonstrated...On 19 August 2004, the Federal Office of Justice agreed to transmit to Nigeria
all the assets in Switzerland beneficially owned by the Abacha family, waiving the condition of
a prior judicial forfeiture decision in Nigeria," This decision was upheld for the most part by
the Swiss Supreme Court in February 2005. The Abacha family did not "attempt to reverse
the presumption by proving that the balance of the attached funds was not of criminal origin."


Here's a timeline of the swiss case:
http://www.icc-ccs.org/home/resources/118-leading-cases/697-abacha-case

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:30pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:
Abacha Loot if not proven in court is a mere media conviction.

There is a global conspiracy to discredit Abacha with 22years of seemingly endless "audio" repatriation so-called "Abacha loot" that is not even up to $1bn x according to tho se falsely and maliciously accusing him.
Phantom repatriation of loot that has never been confirmed to have arrived in Nigeria's treasury coffers over a 22years period.

Whilst Nigerians are bamboozled frequent reports about a relatively tiny "audio" so-called Abacha Loot of less than $1bn (according to Abacha's dishonest accusers). Abacha that died 22years ago.

$16bn that Obasanjo made disappear before our very eyes are seemingly forgotten.

$20bn that Jonathan acknowledged had disappeared from our treasury is no longer news.

$1trn (N400trn) Malabu Oil block that Obasanjo gave away to thieving International Oil Company Shell and Agip is seemingly unimportant
.

My fellow country people, we are being played!

At the bolded, $1trn! oga abeg lie small small.
Since all were discovered in commercial quantities Nigerian hasn't earn earned trillion dollars.

Abacha was a senseless criminal, one of those people responsible for the problem facing Nigeria today, no matter how you try to whitewash him, history will ways remember him to a corrupt senseless dictator
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:35pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:
Abacha Loot if not proven in court is a mere media conviction.

There is a global conspiracy to discredit Abacha with 22years of seemingly endless "audio" repatriation so-called "Abacha loot" that is not even up to $1bn according to those falsely and maliciously accusing him.
Phantom repatriation of loot that has never been confirmed to have arrived in Nigeria's treasury coffers over a 22years period.

Whilst Nigerians are bamboozled frequent reports about a relatively tiny "audio" so-called Abacha Loot of less than $1bn (according to Abacha's dishonest accusers). Abacha that died 22years ago.

$16bn that Obasanjo made disappear before our very eyes are seemingly forgotten.

$20bn that Jonathan acknowledged had disappeared from our treasury is no longer news.

$1trn (N400trn) Malabu Oil block that Obasanjo gave away to thieving International Oil Company Shell and Agip is seemingly unimportant.

My fellow country people we are being played!

Where is the evidence that $16B went missing during Obasanjo regime? You people always like to repeat a lie severally in the hope that it goes unchallenged. There was never a time Nigeria budgeted $16B dollars or have $16b to invest in the power sector.

Take a deep breath and go through those lies you wrote up there and come back with another round of illogical fallacies to exonerate your criminal dead general
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 10:38pm On Feb 05, 2020
myobjective:


At the bolded, $1trn! oga abeg lie small small.
Since all were discovered in commercial quantities Nigerian hasn't earn earned trillion dollars.

Abacha was a senseless criminal, one of those people responsible for the problem facing Nigeria today, no matter how you try to whitewash him, history will ways remember him to a corrupt senseless dictator
Google na your friend, research value of Malabu oil block.

Abacha was one of our greatest leaders indeed in history of Africa. Just repeating unfounded allegations does not make those allegations true.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:46pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:
Google na your friend, the research value of Malabu oil block.

Abacha was one of our greatest leaders indeed in the history of Africa. Just repeating unfounded allegations does not make those allegations true.

Tell that the indomie generation that never lived through his dictatorship. I was an old enough to know the suffering and the agony suffered by Nigeria through his regime.

Nigeria was so poor that the majority of Nigerians jubilated when the news of his demise hit the air. Abacha was one of the worst man to has ever ruled this country, he was clueless that the only person that came close him in cluelnly is one and only Mr clueless Buhari
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 10:49pm On Feb 05, 2020
myobjective:


Where is the evidence that $16B went missing during Obasanjo regime? You people always like to repeat a lie severally in the hope that it goes unchallenged. There was never a time Nigeria budgeted $16B dollars or have $16b to invest in the power sector.

Take a deep breath and go through those lies you wrote up there and come back with another round of illogical fallacies to exonerate your criminal dead general
Proof is Obasanjo took $16bn and after he left office, no plants were found that he had built; our electricity generation capacity even fell.

Senate probed the $16bn also.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by myobjective: 10:54pm On Feb 05, 2020
GenBuhari:
Proof is Obasanjo took $16bn and after he left office no plants were built electricity generation capacity even tell.

Senate probed the $16bn also.

I don't want your "mei suya" or "mei shi" gist, i want real proof. Since Nigeria gain independent there was never a time that $16bn was spent on infrastructure not to talk of only electricity.

My problem with core northern youth is they are too stupid to learn and when they're have baked they behave like "Wole Soyinka". More reading on the subject matters will clear all your ignorance
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 3:50pm On Feb 06, 2020
Genbuhari if you're just looter apologist. Its pretty clear you're turn off your brain because of your sycophantic worship of the thieving dictator.

He's the timeline of the cases.

||Switzerland||

14 October 1999

Press release of the Federal Office of Police announcing the freeze of accounts of the former Nigerian head-of-state Sani Abacha, members of his family and other parties following the announcement of an upcoming request for mutual assistance by Nigeria.

21 January 2000

Press release of the Federal Office of Police announcing that Switzerland is granting assistance to Nigeria and has frozen USD 80 million, and that the Geneva investigative magistrate's office has initiated criminal proceedings for money laundering and has frozen USD 645 million.

4 September 2000

The Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) released its report on the results of its comprehensive investigation into the business relations of 19 Swiss banks (named in the report) with the entourage of Sani Abacha.

7 December 2001

Decision 1A.157/2001 (in French) of the Swiss Federal Courtruling that as any victim of crimes applying to sue for damages in criminal proceedings, the Federal Republic of Nigeria was entitled to have access to the file of the Geneva criminal investigation and to use those documents in furtherance of its claims, notably in support of civil proceedings, requests for mutual assistance and criminal complaints, provided that the Federal Republic of Nigeria formally undertook not to use those documents, directly or indirectly, in criminal, civil or administrative proceedings in Nigeria until the end of the mutual assistance proceeding.

23 April 2003

Decision 1A.49-54/2002 (in French; English translation) of the Swiss Federal Court ruling that the evidence collected in Switzerland could be transmitted to the Nigerian authorities in support of their domestic criminal proceedings.

18 August 2004

Press release of the Federal Office of Justice, announcing its decision to return to Nigeria USD 500 million frozen in Switzerland: “Under the terms of the Swiss International Mutual Legal Assistance Act, assets may be returned on the basis of a legal enforceable seizure order from the applicant state. In exceptional cases – such as where the frozen assets are obviously of criminal origin – assets can be returned without such an order. On the basis of information and documentation from Nigeria and from the criminal proceedings in Geneva, the FOJ was able to follow the paper trail left by the USD 500 million of Abacha funds still frozen in Switzerland.”

7 February 2005

Decision 1A.215/2004 (in French; English translation here) of the Swiss Federal Court ruling that the USD 458 million may be returned to Nigeria as they are obviously of criminal origin. As to the balance of the funds frozen in Switzerland, the Abacha family and their accomplices formed a criminal organization, and the reversal of the burden of the proof of the origin of the assets provided for by Swiss criminal law is also applicable to mutual assistance proceedings. Consequently, all the frozen assets beneficially owned by a member of the criminal organization shall be returned to Nigeria unless the account holders demonstrate that they are not of criminal origin.

||United Kingdom||

8 March 2001

In a press release, the Financial Services Authority (FSA) announced that it had completed its investigation into the handling by banks in the UK of accounts linked to General Sani Abacha: "The FSA investigation identified 42 personal and corporate account relationships linked to Abacha family members and close associates in the UK. These accounts were held at 23 banks which included UK banks and branches of banks from both inside and outside the European Union.In total, turnover on the 42 accounts amounted to US$1.3 billion for the four years between 1996 and 2000". The names of the 23 banks were not disclosed.

18 October 2001

In a [2001] EWHC Admin 787 judgment, the Supreme Court of Judicature, Queen’s Bench Division (Divisional Court) dismissed the applications of Mohammed Sani Abacha and Abubakar Bagudu for judicial review challenging the Secretary of State’s decision to transmit evidence to Switzerland and Nigeria.

||Jersey||

1 January 2004

Jersey Attorney General's Annual Review for 2003: "2003 saw Jersey's long running investigation into Nigerian corruption approach its climax. Working closely with the present Nigerian authorities, the U.S. authorities and countries across Western Europe, Serious Crime Group lawyers played a direct and crucial role in the repatriation of some U.S.$160 million of money embezzled from the people of Nigeria and channelled through Jersey by the late Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha, and his henchmen." (pp. 6-7).

25 June 2010

In a [2010]JRC116 judgment of the Royal Court, an Indian businessman convicted on three counts of money laundering was sentenced to six years' imprisonment on each count, to run concurrently, in respect of the dishonest inflation by between 400 and 500% at the behest of General Sani Abacha of contracts for the purchase of motor vehicles sold to Nigeria in 1996 and 1997 for US$184 million, which were in truth worth about US$38 million, the making of false representations in that respect, the obtaining of dishonestly inflated payments for the vehicles out of Nigerian public funds, the dishonest payment of almost US$100 million in bribes from the sale proceeds to Swiss bank accounts connected to General Sani Abacha and other Nigerian public officials involved in the award of the vehicle supply contracts, and the conversion in 2000 of the proceeds of such criminal conduct, about US$40 million, for the purpose of avoiding prosecution when the mediaannounced that the Swiss authorities had launched a money laundering investigation and had identified the Swiss accounts into which the defendant had paid the bribes.

11 February 2011

In a judgment [2011]JCA034, the Court of Appeal dismissed the appeal of the Indian businessman against his conviction and sentencing.

7 June 2011

The Government of Jersey announced in a press release that the Royal Court made a confiscation order in the sum of £26.5 million against the assets of the Indian businessman and that the Jersey authorities would initiate discussions with the government of Nigeria regarding the repatriation of the confiscated funds.


http://www.icc-ccs.org/home/resources/118-leading-cases/697-abacha-case

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
We frequently hear the term "Abacha Loot", but it is obviously a media term to refer to an unfair malicious allegation against Abacha.

Abacha was never charged to court and convicted of looting.

Why are we not talking of Obasanjo Loot?
Saraki Loot,
Jonathan Loot?
Babangida Loot?
FFK Loot?
Dasuki Loot?
Sai mama grin grin grin

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 3:58pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
What evidence has Abacha's accusers ever provided to support their allegation that he looted?
So all the loot that has been repatriated since 1999 was from his army salary?
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 4:09pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
[s]We frequently hear the term "Abacha Loot", but it is obviously a media term to refer to an unfair malicious allegation against Abacha.

Abacha was never charged to court and convicted of looting.

Why are we not talking of Obasanjo Loot?
Saraki Loot,
Jonathan Loot?
Babangida Loot?
FFK Loot?
Dasuki Loot?[/s]

Rubbish.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by orisa37: 4:38pm On Feb 06, 2020
Js22621:
During his own time even 100 of Buhari dare not raise a finger




That is Abacha shaking Trump.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:02pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:
Genbuhari if you're just looter apologist. Its pretty clear you're turn off your brain because of your sycophantic worship of the thieving dictator.

He's the timeline of the cases.



But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter.
None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting.

Blue3k:
Genbuhari if you're just looter apologist. Its pretty clear you're turn off your brain because of your sycophantic worship of the thieving dictator.

He's the timeline of the cases.



But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter.
None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting.

Blue3k:
Genbuhari if you're just looter apologist. Its pretty clear you're turn off your brain because of your sycophantic worship of the thieving dictator.

He's the timeline of the cases.



But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter.
None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting.

Interestingly you attachment proved that the Swiss court reversed the burden of proof on whether the money was looted in which case it can repartriate the money to Nigeria without proving Abacha looted.
Also how Abacha is never mention alone it is always Abacha and associates.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 5:33pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:

But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter. None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting.

But how does the timeline prove Abacha was a looter.None of the cases convicted Abacha of looting.

Interestingly you attachment proved that the Swiss court reversed the burden of proof on whether the money was looted in which case it can repartriate the money to Nigeria without proving Abacha looted.
Also how Abacha is never mention alone it is always Abacha and associates.

Looter apologist stop asking daft questions. Everyone has told you multiple times the government isn't going to convict a deadman. The money laundering opperations weren't carried out by him alone. He had bagman who moved the money for him including his family members. His son's names were on the account. The whole opperation isnt possible without him being involved.

The 2013 case he's a thief but you ignored thst ask mumu questions about Obasanjo. The Indian businessman was imprisoned over being a money laundering for sani Abacha.

Nigeria already proved the money was illegal obtained in 2004. The Courts already declared the money was obviously of criminal origin. Lol even a sycophant explained why his family has that sort of wealth without them stealing it. The family simply had to prove the money was legally acquired which the opted not to do for obvious reasons.

In a [2010]JRC116 judgment of the Royal Court, an Indian businessman convicted on three counts of money laundering was sentenced to six years' imprisonment on each count, to run concurrently, in respect of the dishonest inflation by between 400 and 500% at the behest of General Sani Abacha of contracts for the purchase of motor vehicles sold to Nigeria in 1996 and 1997 for US$184 million, which were in truth worth about US$38 million, the making of false representations in that respect, the obtaining of dishonestly inflated payments for the vehicles out of Nigerian public funds, the dishonest payment of almost US$100 million in bribes from the sale proceeds to Swiss bank accounts connected to General Sani Abacha and other Nigerian public officials involved in the award of the vehicle supply contracts, and the conversion in 2000 of the proceeds of such criminal conduct, about US$40 million, for the purpose of avoiding prosecution when the mediaannounced that the Swiss authorities had launched a money laundering investigation and had identified the Swiss accounts into which the defendant had paid the bribes.

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:45pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:


Looter apologist stop asking daft questions. Everyone has told you multiple times the government isn't going to convict a deadman. The money laundering opperations weren't carried out by him alone. He had bagman who moved the money for him including his family members. His son's names were on the account. The whole opperation isnt possible without him being involved.

The 2013 case he's a thief but you ignored thst ask mumu questions about Obasanjo. The Indian businessman was imprisoned over being a money laundering for sani Abacha.

Nigeria already proved the money was illegal obtained in 2004. The Courts already declared the money was obviously of criminal origin. Lol even a sycophant explained why his family has that sort of wealth without them stealing it. The family simply had to prove the money was legally acquired which the opted not to do for obvious reasons.


Still does not prove beyond reasonable doubt that Abacha looted.
You have failed to say evidence that proved Abacha looted the money.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:51pm On Feb 06, 2020
12Monkeys:

So all the loot that has been repatriated since 1999 was from his army salary?

Audio repatriation, none of money they claimed was repartriaed has ever been traced or appear in national budget, the white supremacist repatriating the phantom funds always dictate what is to happen to it. I don't believe anything has ever been repatriated .
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:53pm On Feb 06, 2020
immhotep:
Sai mama grin grin grin
So this your only response? ok !
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 5:58pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
Still does not prove beyond reasonable doubt that Abacha looted.
You have failed to say evidence that proved Abacha looted the money.

It's a civil case uneducated looter apologist. Beyond a reason doubt is used in criminal proceedings. The 2010 conviction of the indian and 2013 investigation by the US prove that. I already posted them multiple time read it slowly this time.


GenBuhari:
Audio repatriation, none of money they claimed was repartriaed has ever been traced or appear in national budget, the white supremacist repatriating the phantom funds always dictate what is to happen to it. I don't believe anything has ever been repatriated .

Lol you're calling Buhari a liar? You ptetty mentally challenged if you believe everything a conspiracy. Lol paranoid delusions.

1 January 2004

Jersey Attorney General's Annual Review for 2003: "2003 saw Jersey's long running investigation into Nigerian corruption approach its climax. Working closely with the present Nigerian authorities, the U.S. authorities and countries across Western Europe, Serious Crime Group lawyers played a direct and crucial role in the repatriation of some U.S.$160 million of money embezzled from the people of Nigeria and channelled through Jersey by the [b]late Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha, and his henchmen." (pp. 6-7).[/b]

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 6:16pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:


It's a civil case uneducated looter apologist. Beyond a reason doubt is used in criminal proceedings. The 2010 conviction of the indian and 2013 investigation by the US prove that. I already posted them multiple time read it slowly this time.




Lol you're calling Buhari a liar? You ptetty mentally challenged if you believe everything a conspiracy. Lol paranoid delusions.

Pathetic! Throwing childish insults just exposes you are out of your depth in this discussion.

Keep avoiding answering the question.
What evidence was presented to prove Abacha looted?
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 6:25pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
Audio repatriation, none of money they claimed was repartriaed has ever been traced or appear in national budget, the white supremacist repatriating the phantom funds always dictate what is to happen to it. I don't believe anything has ever been repatriated .
You are extremely stupid
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 6:34pm On Feb 06, 2020
12Monkeys:

You are extremely stupid
And this is your intelligent response? Oh the irony!
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by 12Monkeys: 6:37pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
And this is your intelligent response? Oh the irony!

OK. Abacha never stole.

Is this another way of defending your foolish Buhari gaffes?

Because I know why you are trying to turn logic on it's head and it comes down to defending Buhari's stubborn stance that Abacha wasn't corrupt .


Idiot.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 6:56pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
Pathetic! Throwing childish insults just exposes you are out of your depth in this discussion.

Keep avoiding answering the question.
What evidence was presented to prove Abacha looted?

Im just making fair comments uneducated looter apologist. You didn't know preponderance of evidence determines winners of civil trial uneducated looter apologist. The facts all the accounts are connected him. All the family members and bagmen worked for him proves he stole. All the cases so far all implicated him as common dominator. The indian businessman even got sent to prison for laudering money for the cretin. You really must be mentally inept if you dont understand how organized crime works.

General Sani Abacha directed Ismaïla Gwarzo, his National Security Adviser, to present him with false funding requests for security operations or equipment, which he had the power to authorise. For the most part, the funds were
directly remitted in cash (USD 1,131 million and GBP 413 million) or in travellers’ cheques (USD 50 million and GBP 3.5 million) by the Central Bank of Nigeria to Ismaila Gwarzo, who then had most of the funds taken to General Sani Abacha’s house. From there they were taken by his oldest son, Mohammed Abacha, and laundered through
Nigerian banks or by Nigerian or foreign businessmen to offshore accounts belonging to Mohammed Abacha, Abba Abacha, Abdulkadir
Abacha and Abubakar Bagudu. In a limited number of cases (thirty-six transfers, totalling USD 386 million), the monies were transferred
directly from the Central Bank of Nigeria by wire to bank accounts abroad, held by offshore companies belonging either to members of
the Abacha criminal organisation or to Nigerian or foreign business-men, who then remitted the same sums to members of the organisation. At least USD 1,491 million and GBP 416 million had thus been found by the SIP to have been embezzled by the Abacha criminal
organisation.

Genbuhari even you cant be enough a mumu for Abacha to ignore these facts. Stop being a looter apologist.

VIII. The Swiss decision to return USD 500 million

At the end of 2000, after about one year of international investigations, more than ninety-five per cent of the assets of the Abacha criminal organisation that have now been identified worldwide had already been frozen. The investigations showed that more than twenty
companies had paid bribes at the request of General Abacha and that numerous inflated public contracts had been granted to companies
controlled by the Abacha family. General Abacha was designated as beneficial owner of only 3 of the 130 accounts used by the Abacha
criminal organisation.
The designated beneficial owners of the other accounts were in most cases his sons, and in some cases businessmen
who had gained his trust.
Since the beginning, General Abacha’s sons have resorted to delaying tactics, without ever providing law enforcement authorities with any explanation as to the origin of their fabulous wealth.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://star.worldbank.org/corruption-cases/sites/corruption-cases/files/documents/arw/Abacha_Switzerland_Monfrini_Art_2008.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjuiMK3u73nAhVQM6wKHeo_As0QFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0NxXM5U4c572qA8IqvgjSX

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 7:27pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:


Im just making fair comments uneducated looter apologist. You didn't know preponderance of evidence determines winners of civil trial uneducated looter apologist. The facts all the accounts are connected him. All the family members and bagmen worked for him proves he stole. All the cases so far all implicated him as common dominator. The indian businessman even got sent to prison for laudering money for the cretin. You really must be mentally inept if you dont understand how organized crime works.



What you posted can at best be described as mixture of hearsay and circumstantial evidence.

No hard evidence against Abacha himself.

Imagine the desperation of those trying to pin corruption on him that they have to manufacture an entity they named " Abacha Criminal Organisation" to prosecute . The so called criminal organisation being made up of his family and so called associates according to the opinion of his accuser, Mr honesty himself Thief Obasanjo .

For the court to even accept this contraption called a crimminal organisation as legitimate party in the case shows that the court is biased.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 7:47pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
What you a presenting can at best be described as mixture of hearsay and circumstantial evidence.

No hard evidence against Abacha himself.

Imagine the desperation of those trying to pin corruption on him that they have to manufacture an entity they named " Abacha Criminal Organisation" to prosecute . Made up of his family and so called associates .

For the court to even accept this contraption called it criminal organisation as legitimate party in the case shows that the court is biased.

This isnt hearsay looter apologist. Lol you're too pathetic. They termed it Abacha criminal organisation because it's easy way to identify the criminals. What they're doing is organized crime so there's nothing wrong with joining them together in the lawsuit. The case has already been proven in court there's no denying he's a thief especially when he owns the accounts in question. Lol this just the swiss case your favorite looter did the same in other countries.

Can you explain how his sons were able to make that much money? Lol you're clearly mumu for Abacha. You spent a decade of your life being his apologist so I can see why it's hard to stop. You've made yourself look idiotic defending this proven theif.

As a consequence, by the end of December 1999, a total of USD 645 million were frozen in Switzerland by the Examining Magistrate, including the USD 80 million frozen by the Federal Office of Police on 13 October 1999. A total of 130 bank accounts in Switzerland were identified as having been used by the Abacha criminal organisation. It should be noted that all accounts that had been identified by the Nigerian police and were specifically designated in the request for mutual assistance had been closed and their assets sent to other jurisdictions before September 1999.

General Abacha was designated as
beneficial owner of only 3 of the 130 accounts used by the Abacha criminal organisation.
The designated beneficial owners of the other
accounts were in most cases his sons, and in some cases businessmen who had gained his trust.

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:


This isnt hearsay looter apologist. Lol you're too pathetic. They termed it Abacha criminal organisation because it's easy way to identify the criminals. What they're doing is organized crime so there's nothing wrong with joining them together in the lawsuit. The case has already been proven in court there's no denying he's a thief especially when he owns the accounts in question. Lol this just the swiss case your favorite looter did the same in other countries.

Can you explain how his sons were able to make thst much money. Lol you're clearly mumu for Abacha. You spent a decade of your life being his apologist so I can see ehy it's hard to stop.



Still throwing insults?
Are not able to make mature contribution without insults?

Listen all you are posting are opinion of his accusers their sponsors from the same white supremacist nations that imposed sanctions on Abacha's govt.

Finally how can court accept to call an entity criminal if the entity has never been convicted of a crime. Comprehend?
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 8:22pm On Feb 06, 2020
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GenBuhari:
Still throwing insults?
Are not able to make mature contribution without insults?

Listen all you are posting are opinion of his accusers their sponsors from the same white supremacist nations that imposed sanctions on Abacha's govt.

Finally how can court accept to call an entity criminal if the entity has never been convicted of a crime. Comprehend?
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Its fair comment reffering to you alooter apologist. Your foolish comments and questions give me reason to doubt your cognitive abilities. This is a link summarizing the case clown. These arent mere accusation because they've already been proven in court.

You screaming white supremacist just tells me you're mentally challenged. The Nigerian government levied the accusations against him and proved their case. Abacha stealing and stashing money overseas is black excellence in your mind. I asked you multiple times how the sons acquired this wealth. You avoided the question.

Yes the courts can call some a criminal during after a criminal complaint has been lodged. Lol your mumu questions are endless. Here's why they labeled them a criminal organisation since you're curious. You'd know if you actually read the file instead of waiting to spoon fed information.

Although there was no precedent in qualifying a head of state, his family and members of government as a criminal organisation, this qualification was essential to the success of the Swiss criminal and mutual assistance proceedings, for two reasons.

Firstly, pursuant to Article 260ter Paragraph 3 of the Swiss Penal Code,11 the Swiss authorities had jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute all members of the Abacha criminal organisation, even if they had not set foot in the country, on the sole basis that the organisation’s
criminal activity had partially taken place in Switzerland.

Secondly, and more importantly, pursuant to Article 59 cipher 3 of the Swiss Penal Code,12 the qualification as a criminal organisation
would result, for the persons who has participated in or supported it, in reversing the burden of the proof, as they would have the onus of proving the lack of connection between the assets subject to confiscation and the criminal organisation, as was confirmed by the Swiss
Supreme Court on 7 February 2005.13

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 9:33pm On Feb 06, 2020
Blue3k:
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Its fair comment reffering to you alooter apologist. Your foolish comments and questions give me reason to doubt your cognitive abilities. This is a link summarizing the case clown. These arent mere accusation because they've already been proven in court.

You screaming white supremacist just tells me you're mentally challenged. The Nigerian government levied the accusations against him and proved their case. Abacha stealing and stashing money overseas is black excellence in your mind. I asked you multiple times how the sons acquired this wealth. You avoided the question.

Yes the courts can call some a criminal during after a criminal complaint has been lodged. Lol your mumu questions are endless. Here's why they labeled them a criminal organisation since you're curious. You'd know if you actually read the file instead of waiting to spoon fed information.

clearly the Swiss court is nothing short of a kangaroo court.

How can it talk of the criminal organisation commiting criminal activities without the organisation not being convicted of any previous crime?
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 10:12pm On Feb 06, 2020
GenBuhari:
clearly the Swiss court is nothing short of a kangaroo court.

How can it talk of the criminal organisation commiting criminal activities without the organisation not being convicted of any previous crime?

Wow you are mentally challenged. You keep shifting the goalpost no matter what to defend the looter. Even with multiple verdicts in favor of Nigeria from multiple countries you'll just ask another mumu question. First you lied saying no court said he stole. Now its kangaroo white supremacist court giving Nigeria imaginary money. Lol your paranoid mental ineptitude is baffling.

They're called a criminal organization because they commit crimes as group. They're not on trial for previous crimes. Your question is stupid. Stealing isnt a crime when Abacha and his family does it. If you read link I gave you wouldn't need to ask mumu questions.

Swiss definition of criminal Organization:

Art. 260ter  Criminal organisation

1. Any person who participates in an organisation, the structure and personal composition of which is kept secret and which pursues the objective of committing crimes of violence or securing a financial gain by criminal means, any person who supports such an organisation in its criminal activities,

It's clear common sense and law is hard for you to grasp. Lol keep dodging my question coward. How did Abacha's family earn the money in those accounts?

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