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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Obdk: 10:35pm On Feb 06, 2020
Horladipupo0505:
Because dey are not dead body..abacha case was like dis bcoz he died

Is yar dua not dead
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 12:50am On Feb 07, 2020
Blue3k:


Wow you are mentally challenged. You keep shifting the goalpost no matter what to defend the looter. Even with multiple verdicts in favor of Nigeria from multiple countries you'll just ask another mumu question. First you lied saying no court said he stole. Now its kangaroo white supremacist court giving Nigeria imaginary money. Lol your paranoid mental ineptitude is baffling.

They're called a criminal organization because they commit crimes as group. They're not on trial for previous crimes. Your question is stupid. Stealing isnt a crime when Abacha and his family does it. If you read link I gave you wouldn't need to ask mumu questions.



It's clear common sense and law is hard for you to grasp. Lol keep dodging my question coward. How did Abacha's family earn the money in those accounts?
Drop the childish insults or stop educating you.
But where is the evidence the so called criminal organisation committed crimes ? You cannot label a party a criminal without first convicting them of a crime . What crimes had this so called criminal organisation been previously convicted of?

what evidence proved Abacha looted or than hearsay?
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 2:02am On Feb 07, 2020
GenBuhari:
Drop the childish insults or stop educating you.
But where is the evidence the so called criminal organisation committed crimes? You cannot label a party a criminal without first convicting them of a crime . What crimes had this so called criminal organisation been previously convicted of?

what evidence proved Abacha looted or than hearsay?

Im making fair comment about lack of cognitive ability. The definition of what's considered organized crime was provided to you clown. Lol you are a mumu if you still asking for evidence of abacha looting when he was the beneficial owner of the accounts as the courts ruled. You dont even understand what hearsay means.

If you read the documents you'd already know accomplices of the crimal organization confessed and were prosecuted. Read the summary below for more details. Lol all your foolish questions could be answered by simple reading the documents. Cowardly looter apologist stop avoiding my simple question. How did his family earn those millions? I wont answer anymore questions till you explain.

The Geneva Examining Magistrate indicted Mohammed Abacha
and Abubakar Bagudu of fraud, unfaithful management, participation
in a criminal organisation and money laundering, respectively on 26
May 2000 in Lagos and on 26 April 2000 in the Swiss Embassy in
London.

In the course of spring and summer 2000, other accomplices were
indicted, most of whom confessed to their crimes. The Examining
Magistrate issued sentencing orders pronouncing fines of up to CHF 1
million for participation in a criminal organisation and money laundering, and forfeiture orders16 totalling about USD 70 million, which
were allocated to the Federal Republic of Nigeria as victim of the
crimes.17 Those convictions mainly concerned the laundering of the
proceeds of the plundering of the Central Bank of Nigeria through
Swiss bank accounts.


Numerous Letters Rogatory were sent to other jurisdictions in
view of identifying the origin or destination of funds controlled by the
Abacha criminal organisation. In addition, in 2000, the Geneva Examining Magistrate went twice to Nigeria to examine witnesses and collect evidence.

In November 2003, Mr. Daniel Zappelli, who had succeded Bernard Bertossa as Attorney-General of Geneva issued a further sentencing order for forgery, participation in a criminal organisation and
money laundering against an English businessman whose account had
only been reported by his bank in January 2002, and CHF 110 million
was forfeited and allocated to the Federal Republic of Nigeria. The
funds laundered were identified as bribes paid by this businessman and third parties to Mohammed Abacha and Abba Abacha in exchange for inflated public contracts, which required General Sani Abacha’s approval.

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Horladipupo0505: 5:30am On Feb 07, 2020
Obdk:


Is yar dua not dead
but Yar dua no last nw..he was like China battery
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 8:08am On Feb 07, 2020
Blue3k:


Im making fair comment about lack of cognitive ability. The definition of what's considered organized crime was provided to you clown. Lol you are a mumu if you still asking for evidence of abacha looting when he was the beneficial owner of the accounts as the courts ruled. You dont even understand what hearsay means.

If you read the documents you'd already know accomplices of the crimal organization confessed and were prosecuted. Read the summary below for more details. Lol all your foolish questions could be answered by simple reading the documents. Cowardly looter apologist stop avoiding my simple question. How did his family earn those millions? I wont answer anymore questions till you explain.

How ironic you throwing insults about lack of cognitive ability, you seem to lack the ability to understand that you cannot legally label a person a criminal in a law court until they have been convicted of a crime.

The Abacha family do not own the bank accounts in Switzerland it is simply made up by Obasanjo who also invented the entity "Abacha Criminal Organisation"



You have failed to answer my question what evidence was produced in any court case that proved beyond reasonable doubt that Abacha looted.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 10:31am On Feb 07, 2020
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GenBuhari:
How ironic you throwing insults about lack of cognitive ability, you seem to lack the ability to understand that you cannot legally label a person a criminal in a law court until they have been convicted of a crime.

The Abacha family do not own the bank accounts in Switzerland it is simply made up by Obasanjo who also invented the entity "Abacha Criminal Organisation"



You have failed to answer my question what evidence was produced in any court case that proved beyond reasonable doubt that Abacha looted.
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Your first arguement is wrong under swiss law. You are too idiotic to read information provided to you so you just keep repeating stupid talking points. Accomplices of the criminal Organization were convicted as previously stated. They were a criminal organization because the laudering money as a group.

Lol you're mentally challenged weirdo. The Abacha family did own the sccounts in question. It was proven the Avachas were beneficial owners in court lying looter apologist. Sani Abacha owned 3 out of 130 . If they didn't own the accounts they couldn't have negotiated a deal for the money. Lol you're a mumu for the Abacha's.

Lol how did they earn their money looter apologist? You're avoiding the question with lies. Even the family couldnt explain how a billion dollars ended up Switzerland.

Federal Authorities of the Swiss Confederation, "Out-of-court settlement in the Abacha case - Nigeria to receive more than a billion USD; The countries concerned cooperate in the implementation of the settlement," April 17, 2002.) In 2001, the Abacha family and associates reached an agreement with the Nigerian government to release $1.3 billion frozen in Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg in exchange for being able to keep $100 million. According to Attorney Enrico Monfrini (lawyer for Nigeria), "Thanks to the thorough investigation in the Geneva domestic criminal proceedings, the criminal origin of the funds was clearly demonstrated...On 19 August 2004,

The Federal Office of Justice agreed to transmit to Nigeria all the assets in Switzerland beneficially owned by the Abacha family, waiving the condition of a prior judicial forfeiture decision in Nigeria," This decision was upheld for the most part by the Swiss Supreme Court in February 2005. The Abacha family did not "attempt to reverse the presumption by proving that the balance of the attached funds was not of criminal origin."

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 9:09pm On Feb 09, 2020
Blue3k:
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Your first arguement is wrong under swiss law. You are too idiotic to read information provided to you so you just keep repeating stupid talking points. Accomplices of the criminal Organization were convicted as previously stated. They were a criminal organization because the laudering money as a group.

Lol you're mentally challenged weirdo. The Abacha family did own the sccounts in question. It was proven the Avachas were beneficial owners in court lying looter apologist. Sani Abacha owned 3 out of 130 . If they didn't own the accounts they couldn't have negotiated a deal for the money. Lol you're a mumu for the Abacha's.

Lol how did they earn their money looter apologist? You're avoiding the question with lies. Even the family couldnt explain how a billion dollars ended up Switzerland.



As you cannot post without throwing insults , I hereby warn you that you a violating NL rule 2 and will report if you continue.

On subject matter.

Where is the break down of all members of this so called Abacha criminal organisation?

Since Abacha or his family members had no previous criminal conviction, how can a fair court of of competent jurisdiction accept their inclusion in list of members of an alleged criminal organisation?

Look Abacha as head of the military government had absolute power abrogated to himself , if he was interested in looting he could do so easily by himself without having to join the alleged criminal organisation just to loot less than $1bn.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 9:23pm On Feb 09, 2020
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GenBuhari:
As you cannot post without throwing insults , I hereby warn you that you a violating NL rule 2 and will report if you continue.

On subject matter.

Where is the break down of all members of this so called Abacha criminal organisation?

Since Abacha or his family members had no previous criminal conviction, how can a fair court of of competent jurisdiction accept their inclusion in list of members of an alleged criminal organisation?

Look Abacha as head of the military government had absolute power abrogated to himself , if he was interested in looting he could do so easily by himself without having to join the alleged criminal organisation just to loot less than $1bn.
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Your comments are always nonsensical. Be honest once in your life looter qpologist did you even read one link I gave you? The people and parties are mentioned there. You're asking the same questions that have been answered like you're mentally ill. Dont ask redundant questions when its been explained how a criminal Organization are classified under swiss law. Your definition doesn't matter.

Your logic is so backwards. Abacha didn't have absolute power. The fact is he stole stole secretly. Even recently the abacha family was denied their loot by the Nigerian supreme court but you're here asking dumb questions.

The Supreme Court on Friday dismissed an appeal by the family of the late Head of State, General Sani Abacha, who had prayed for an order unfreezing some bank accounts of the late dictator and other members of the family held in the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Jersey, Liechenstein and Luxembourg.

The PUNCH reports that the accounts were frozen in the countries following mutual judicial assistance agreements entered with the countries by the Nigerian government during the administration of the then President, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, in 1999.

Lol anyone that believes Abacha didnt steal is mentally unsound. The Abacha family is trying to recover their loot but failed. It's foolish to say he's not a theif after this case been proven.
Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Nobody: 5:18pm On Feb 22, 2020
Abacha couldn't have been a looter

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Re: Abacha was never Convicted Of Looting by Blue3k(m): 5:54pm On Feb 22, 2020
Only pathetic looter apologist pretend Abacha wasnt a dirty money launderer.

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