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Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by koruji(m): 7:56pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Hhmmmmmmm. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17008:phcn-system-collapse-plunges-country-into-darkness&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=564 |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Nobody: 7:59pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Are you saying that after all these years that I've been thinking they crashed, they were actually "working"? 1 Like |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by sochan: 8:01pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
A broken country, probably near death |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by aljharem11(m): 8:01pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Ileke-IdI: they have been working oooo |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Kobojunkie: 8:02pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Just when I was about to rejoice that we were finally comfortably in the 3600's, we fall back to pre-2009 numbers. Yikes! Ileke-IdI: Not necessarily. Even with all the noise, the average for 2010 is likely around 2400MW. It's been up and down down down, most of the year in fact |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by oderemo(m): 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
When i mention obj, ppl will be shouting for evidence. 8yrs of missrule,incompetence par excellence. That oda thread shld have been obj collapsed and died. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by koruji(m): 8:09pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Well, miracles can happen you know, as long as gas is available It is sad that GEJ was boasting about this on facebook a few days ago. In the same way the government was talking about Jos b/4 the latest wahala. There was one headline today with something like "Niger Delta Pacified". What's going to happen next in ND? Anybody can guess that!!! http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/offor-decapua-niger-delta-29dec10-112602459.html http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17031:car-explodes-yenagoa&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50 Ileke-IdI: |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Woke4all(m): 8:12pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
The situation became worse This news is not true coz i have been in Ughelli since december 22 and there hv been steady power supply since my stay, |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by aljharem11(m): 8:13pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Woke4all: gbammm |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by koruji(m): 8:15pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
That you have power in Ughelli does not mean the Ughelli plant is up and running. Besides the story did say they are trying to get the plants back up. The question is how long can a country start and stop like this on crucial power supply. If it is not gas today, it will be something else tomorrow. Woke4all: |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Nobody: 8:29pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
koruji: So basically, anything he talks about ends up in chaos. Abeg Oga JEGA, dont put mouth for ekiti matter Kobojunkie: LOL! Arent we supposed to be accumulating more Ws? Which way are we going? up or down? |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Kobojunkie: 8:33pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Ileke-IdI: We have not really been accumulating more. What it seems we have been doing much of this year is simply getting to a point where we can effectively distribute and consume that which we have probably had available to us for a while. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Woke4all(m): 8:34pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
koruji: |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by koruji(m): 8:49pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
GEJ is trying no doubt, but he is also fond of counting chickens before the eggs are hatched. Although he deserves some praise for this temporary fixes, the way he talks about them suggest that he believes the problem solved. That means that GEJ might not have the fundamental solutions that Nigeria needs. I don't believe any of the other candidates have shown they have these either, but GEJ has had some time to show he is going to be radically different from the likes of OBJ. Temporary fixes will never solve our problems - we need fundamental changes in the way we do things and the things we do. The jury is still out on the best candidate for the April election. Ileke-IdI: |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Nobody: 8:53pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Ahhh, this explains a lot cos up till the early hours of 25th of December there was uninterrupted power supply. Since then, its been take am if you see am. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Beaf: 8:58pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
There are serious issues with our gas supply infrastructure. For instance, the SE (for reasons best known to past govts) is completely cut off from the rest of the country gas wise, whereas Eastern Nigeria is very important in gas production. Port Harcourt is in the East, same as our highest oil producing state, Akwa ibom, same as Bayelsa and Rivers. The problem is so gross, that there could be abundant gas coming from Delta state, but absolutely none in the East and vice-versa. How we could have ended up with such an arrangement is beyond me. It ranks right up there with how we signed all of our gas supplies to foreign countries up till 2015. Way above that though, is that it is a serious security problem for the country, if an enemy were to attack, then the isolation of the East would make it easy to knock out 100% of Nigeria's power supply, a very dire situation indeed. So far there has been a lot of frantic behind the scenes work to normalise our gas infrastructure and bring it up to date (hence the record amount of power supplied last week), because govt seems serious about power supply, but it will take time to get some things right, there might be further hiccups. of course, being Nigeria, there might also be some mago mago dealings. But we will get there. NNPC has to answer quite serious questions about how gas supply they had guaranteed could drop so low as have a chain effect that knocked out plants across the nation. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by koruji(m): 9:25pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
@Beaf You are absolutely right about these issues, but they require fundamental changes to solve. NNPC is a rotten fish from head to tail that has to be thrown away. Same with NEPA & PHCN. Same with the so-called Nigerian police. They have to be replaced just like NITEL is now rendered effectively useless. Maybe the constraints are too high, but it doesn't appear that GEJ or any of the candidates know or if they do, are able to engender, the fundamental restructuring of this nation. Your point about isolating the East in gas supplies & our signing away the gas until 2015 extend beyond just energy into all aspects of Nigeria's nationhood. GEJ cannot afford to play too much politics. As he has suggested he should be willing to do what is needed for Nigeria, PDP presidential ticket be damned. He needs to bring out a couple of perpetrators of the Jos violence on both sides and [size=14pt]have them shot publicly [/size] after a well-publicised trial. We know people have been caught red-handed in these incidents, so it is not as if this would be a kangaroo trial. The elections are going to be a mess if he doesn't lock down all urban areas one month before the elections - [size=14pt]using the army[/size]. With the way things are going that would be the minimum requirement. He should be personally overseeing the logistics of the upcoming elections (including the deployment of Nigeria the Nigerian army) - more than anything else this will define his legacy. There is absolutely no excuse for someone stealing INEC machines at the airport - saboteurs are out to rubbish him, if he doesn't preempt them. Already troubled areas like Jos and Maiduguri should be used as rehearsals for how Nigerian cities would be secured come election day. Beaf: |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Beaf: 10:02pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
^ Dude, you're not smiling at all! From what is in the press, the Jos issue is being comprehensively dealt with. An implementation of the Kaduna model that has seen that previously bloody state turn calm, is being rolled out and overseen by Namadi Sambo (ex-Kaduna gov). So, there seems to be good movement in that direction. About an accelerated trial and public execution of a couple of those involved in the Jos crisis, I strongly support. That will surely send a signal, especially if those executed are not mere ball boys. We shouldn't be having industrial scale killing in the name of political sabotage. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by McCoy91(m): 10:06pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Don't worry y'all, just drag out your generators, be happy :-) |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by netotse(m): 11:41pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Beaf:i see someone has been reading the power sector roadmap. . .lol @thread it takes a couple of days(sometimes even weeks) to recover from a system collapse, so no one should expect things to get better immediately and a system collapse isn't caused by lack of gas, it's caused by the generators being overloaded(in extremely simple english) |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Beaf: 12:02am On Dec 30, 2010 |
netotse: Ok, lets get pedantic. Lack of gas cuts out some plants which puts weight on others, leading to overloading, leading to their short down and system collapse. . . Happy Xmas by the way. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by netotse(m): 12:17am On Dec 30, 2010 |
Beaf: the lack of gas is the excuse, the reason for the shutdown is the overload, gas shortage is NNPCs wahala, the loading of the units(generators) is PHCNs wahala. It's just that it's easier for them to say 'lack of gas' and the illiterate reporter will chop hook, line and sinker. something that doesn't help matters when it comes to overloading is that We dont have a functioning governor control system at most of our power stations. Although one thing to always remember is that you dont give electricity supply to people per se, as in, you cant say i have 100MW, i'll give you 95, it's left to the person drawing the power to limit himself to 95, if he doesn't all you can do is cut him off(that has it's own risks and can also result in a system collapse to), you cant limit him to 95MW. oh . . .merry xmas to you too. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by jaygetta(m): 5:37am On Dec 30, 2010 |
GEJ! Lol. Anything he says, the opposite happens! Oya, please say "Nigeria will live 2011 and beyond" . . . Make we all know say the time wey everything go take dabaru finish don reach!lol |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Akainzo(m): 10:16am On Dec 30, 2010 |
Beaf: Much as I agree with most of your analysis, I must point out the bolded part. It is not actually correct that the entire SE is cut off from gas supply. Abia state is in the East and so many manufacturing companies there are operating on gas, NB, Guinness and Unilever for instance. And this is because Aba has a large concentration of companies able to utilize the gas. For economic reasons, you also have to consider profitability before people (govt or private) can build gas pipelines. This explains why there is the West African Gas Pipelines project and no Northern Nigeria gas projects as most industries are located along the coast in all the West African countries. NNPC does not guarantee gas supplies as it does not produce gas by any means. Gas is a product of Oil exploration and so long as the ND youths tamper with the pipelines, gas production would be affected. If you blow up an oil or condensate pipeline, the net effect is also a reduction in gas production. I might add that until the government comes out with a comprehensive pricing policy for gas, gas flaring and the attendant issues surrounding gas supply would continue. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by otukpo(f): 11:59am On Dec 30, 2010 |
NEPA IS A VERY BAD CASE. THEIR MATTER DON TIRE ME. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by axeman85(m): 12:03pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IS SEND BIL EVERY MONTH CAN YOU IMAGINE. I LEFT MY HOUSE IN 9JA FOR 1YEAR NOW AND ONLY BEEN BACK LIKE 4TIMES TOTALLING 3MONTHS IN 9JA AND THEY SEND ME NEPA BILL WHICH CURRENTLY STANDS AT 18K. I DON COMPLAIN AND THEY SAY OO I SHOULD GO AND PAY IT THEN COME BACK TO COMPLAIN. VERY BUNCH OF INCOMPETENT MOFO. light dem no gree give bt bill dem dey give ontime |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by amanikondo: 12:03pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
Imagine shutting down because manual was also written in Chinese.
http://thotsandworks.com/topic/210-fg-to-sell-power-stations-because-operating-manuals-are-written-in-chinese |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by member479760: 12:06pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
Grammar too much! talk talk. we go wait for the whiteman to come down and repair their thing. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by DoubleN(m): 12:12pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
Story Story! i have not had Power in my house for the past one week! Freaking Asswipes. And to think that G.E.j is the minister of Power. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by hollars(m): 12:14pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
they've always been, so im not surpised, they only test-run their services once in a while for interested buyers to see that we actually have electricity, |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Winnerslfc(m): 12:36pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
It is sad to find that this is coming at the end of 2010. Does this mean that we may be starting the new year- "election year" in darkness? Oh! PHCN do something! jaygetta:Dude, that remains your personal opinion and not Nigerians'. Let us try to leave out political prejudices in some issues. |
Re: Phcn System Collapse Plunges Country Into Darkness by Winnerslfc(m): 12:37pm On Dec 30, 2010 |
It is sad to find that this is coming at the end of 2010. Does this mean that we may be starting the new year- "election year" in darkness? Oh! PHCN do something! jaygetta:Dude, that remains your personal opinion and not Nigerians'. Let us try to leave out political prejudices in some issues. |
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