fidelis848:

Every Ika descendant that knows his/her roots will tell you that our ancestors migrated from the Benin Empire at about 900 years ago (1100 AD) and move south-eastward to Ika land and then inter-married with the Ibos from aniocha, oshimili and kwale region so thats the reason for the mixed cultural heritage of the Ikas. Igwe festival is celebrated in most part of Ika land and is the same with the binis. Food stuffs like plantain called Ogede, beans (ewa) all derived from the benin kingdom. Besides that, the crowning of any king (obi) in Ika land is supersided and recognised by the Oba of Benin or any of his delegates sent on his behalf. So please people get it right.

fidelis848:

Every Ika descendant that knows his/her roots will tell you that our ancestors migrated from the Benin Empire at about 900 years ago (1100 AD) and move south-eastward to Ika land and then inter-married with the Ibos from aniocha, oshimili and kwale region so thats the reason for the mixed cultural heritage of the Ikas. Igwe festival is celebrated in most part of Ika land and is the same with the binis. Food stuffs like plantain called Ogede, beans (ewa) all derived from the benin kingdom. Besides that, the crowning of any king (obi) in Ika land is supersided and recognised by the Oba of Benin or any of his delegates sent on his behalf. So please people get it right.

agbotaen:

WE ARE IKAS AND WE WILL LIKE TO  MAINTAIN OUR IDENTITY ,NO MAN OUTSIDE IKA LAND CAN TELL US WHO  WE ARE ,SO AS IKAS WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WE  ARE IKAS. [. . .] WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS IKAS.

ezeagu:

This is actually sad because (mind you I'm not saying they don't have Edo ancestry) the Edo people do not recognise the Ika and never have. They call the Ika 'Owe Igbo' which is a derogatory word for Igbo and especially Ika people. Saying that the Oba of Benin's recognition of the Obi of Agbor is proof that the Ika are Edo is a joke because that would mean that Elizabeth II is also Edo through the Oba of Benin's recognition of her.

It is also sad on another level that the Ika people push themselves on Edo people and clamor to be recognised as Edo when it was their very own Ika ancestors that fought long and hard against Edo domination, so much so that the great walls of Benin are said to have been built because of the Ika warriors.

I would understand an Ika identity based solely on being of Ika heritage and having Ika culture, but this isn't the case. It has come to a point that the Ika identity is about how more Edo it is and how less Igbo it is. Ika is not about being Ika anymore but about being less Igbo and more Edo which is sad because it confuses the kids and they have no idea what it is to be Ika or from a town like Agbor so they associate with neighbouring groups.

agbotaen:

 NO  TRUE IKA  PERSON ,WANTS TO BE CALLED  A BINI MAN OR AN  IGBO MAN

agbotaen:

THE  POINT IS THAT WE ARE IKAS, WE HAVE NEVER DENIED OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH IGBO OR OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BENIN .

agbotaen:

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKA HAS EXISTED FOR HUNDRED OF YEARS ,IF NOT  MORE , SOME TIMES THEY FIGHT WAR ,AGAINST EACH  OTHER AND  AT TIMES THEY ARE AT PEACE,IKA AND BENIN SHARE MANY SIMILARITIES AND TIES OF BROTHERHOOD.JUST AS WE ALSO SHARE WITH IGBOS  IN SOME ASPECTS , I  WILL LIST  SOME .

agbotaen:

1. THERE ARE STILL SOME CHIEFTHANCY TITLES IN AGBOR TODAY, THAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE , YOU MUST STILL GO  TO BENIN AND GET SACRED CHALKS FROM ELDERS IN THE BENIN COMMUNITIY ,THEN IF THEY GIVE YOU THE NOD , THEN YOU GET THE TITLE IN AGBOR, THE REASON IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THAT COMMUNITY IN AGBOR  MIGRATED FROM THAT VILLAGE IN BENIN.

agbotaen:

2. ANOTHER AREA OF RELATIONSHIP THAT TIES IKA AND BENIN IS OBISHIP ( KINGSHIP) ,IKA KINGS ARE CROWNED IN THE BENIN USELU  SYSTEM AND THAT STILL STRONGLY TIES BENIN AND AGBOR OR IKA TOGETHER AS RELATIVES.

agbotaen:

3. CHIEFTHANCY STRUCTURE AND NAMES - IKA CHIEFTHANCY IS PATTERNED AFTER BENIN THREE STRUCTURE OF  PALACE, TOWN AND HEREDITORY TITLES,THAT GOES UNDER BENIN NAMES LIKE OLIHEN,OVIA,OBASEKI,IHONDON,OLOGBOSHERE,OZOMOR ,IYASE AND OTHERS.

agbotaen:

4. THE PRESENT MONARCH OF AGBOR -DEIN OF AGBOR IS SAME BLOOD LINE FAMILY WITH THE PRESENT OBA OF BENIN,AND THERE IS STILL A TABOO,WHICH PROHIBITS ANY AGBOR ROYAL PRINCE FROM MARRYING A BENIN ROYAL PRINCESS.THIS WAS EVIDENT IN THE ROLE PLAYED BY THE OBA IN THE CROWNING OF THE PRESENT KING  OF AGBOR -KIAGBOREKUZI , AND THE TRAINNING HE SUBSEQUENTLY RECEIVED IN THE BENIN ROYAL PALACE.

agbotaen:

5. TRADITIONAL RELIGION BINDS BENIN AND IKA TOGETHER AS IN THE PAST THEY WORSHIPPED MOSTLY SAME DEITIES AND PERFORMED SAME CEREMONIES TOGETHER  LIKE IDIGUN, IKABA,IGBOSE,IGUE,IRUA,OVIA, AKE ,OHUMWEEDEN AND THEY BOTH PERFORMED IGUE FESTIVAL TOGETHER IN TIME PAST,AND UP TILL TODAY IGUE IS STILL THE MOST FAMOUS FESTIVAL  OF IKA PEOPLE AND BINIS.

agbotaen:

6. BENIN AND IKA HAD MANY SIMILAR CULTURES IN MARRIAGE, SHARING OF PROPERTIES,WAY OF LIFE AND STRUCTURE OF VILLAGE AND TOWNS -EBON(UMU),IDUMU AND OGBE,

agbotaen:

7. THE BINIS AND IKAS SHARED SAME TRIBAL MARKS CALLED IGU IN IKA AND CALLED IWU IN BENIN .

agbotaen:

8.  THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKAS ARE STILL VERY CLOSE AND EVEN THE BENIN OBA AND CHIEFS STILL COME TO IKA LAND TO SOME TIMES SHARE IN EXCHANGE OF RITUALS AND OTHERS THINGS , MANY IKAS STILL LEAVE IN BENIN TERRITORY AND THEY ARE NOT HARRASSED BUT ARE INTERGRATED INTO THE SCHEME OF THINGS WHILE WE ALSO HAVE MANY BINIS LEAVING IN IKA LAND TOO.

agbotaen:

9. IKA PEOPLE ALSO SHARE SAME NAMES WITH THE BINIS SUCH AS EHIJIE,OSAGIE,OBAIGBENA,OSABOHIEN,OSAIGBOBU, IZOJIE,ISIBOR  ,IRABOR, E.T.C
10.  THE BINIS AND IKAS CALLED GOD- OSENOBUE,OSELOBUE ,OSANOBUWA  ,AND BELIEVE IN EHI AS GUARDIAN SPIRIT.

agbotaen:

 HAVING SAID THIS WE ALSO HAVE SOME COMMON CULTURE WITH THE IGBOS ,LIKE .
1. AREA OF HAVING IKENGA DEITIES ,AND PERFORMING THE IWAGI( NEW-YAM) FESTIVAL, ALTHOUGH IKAS HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THEIR IWAGI OR OGBANIGBE.

agbotaen:

BUT AS IKA PEOPLE,WE HAVE COME TO KNOW THAT THE OLDEST THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THOSE LINKED TO BENIN.

agbotaen:

BUT HAVING SAID ALL THIS , WHAT THUS  IT  MEAN ,TO US, WE ARE IKAS AND WE WILL LIKE TO  MAINTAIN OUR IDENTITY ,NO MAN OUTSIDE IKA LAND CAN TELL US WHO  WE ARE ,SO AS IKAS WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WE  ARE IKAS.

agbotaen:

IKAS HAVE NEVER SAID THEY WANT TO BE CALLED BINIS,NEITHER HAVE WE SAID WE WANT TO BE CALLED IGBOS, BUT WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS IKAS.A DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP.

agbotaen:

 NO  TRUE IKA  PERSON ,WANTS TO BE CALLED  A BINI MAN OR AN  IGBO MAN , THE  POINT IS THAT WE ARE IKAS, WE HAVE NEVER DENIED OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH IGBO OR OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BENIN .THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKA HAS EXISTED FOR HUNDRED OF YEARS ,IF NOT  MORE , SOME TIMES THEY FIGHT WAR ,AGAINST EACH  OTHER AND  AT TIMES THEY ARE AT PEACE,IKA AND BENIN SHARE MANY SIMILARITIES AND TIES OF BROTHERHOOD.JUST AS WE ALSO SHARE WITH IGBOS  IN SOME ASPECTS , I  WILL LIST  SOME .
1. THERE ARE STILL SOME CHIEFTHANCY TITLES IN AGBOR TODAY, THAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE , YOU MUST STILL GO  TO BENIN AND GET SACRED CHALKS FROM ELDERS IN THE BENIN COMMUNITIY ,THEN IF THEY GIVE YOU THE NOD , THEN YOU GET THE TITLE IN AGBOR, THE REASON IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THAT COMMUNITY IN AGBOR  MIGRATED FROM THAT VILLAGE IN BENIN.
2. ANOTHER AREA OF RELATIONSHIP THAT TIES IKA AND BENIN IS OBISHIP ( KINGSHIP) ,IKA KINGS ARE CROWNED IN THE BENIN USELU  SYSTEM AND THAT STILL STRONGLY TIES BENIN AND AGBOR OR IKA TOGETHER AS RELATIVES.
3. CHIEFTHANCY STRUCTURE AND NAMES - IKA CHIEFTHANCY IS PATTERNED AFTER BENIN THREE STRUCTURE OF  PALACE, TOWN AND HEREDITORY TITLES,THAT GOES UNDER BENIN NAMES LIKE OLIHEN,OVIA,OBASEKI,IHONDON,OLOGBOSHERE,OZOMOR ,IYASE AND OTHERS.
4. THE PRESENT MONARCH OF AGBOR -DEIN OF AGBOR IS SAME BLOOD LINE FAMILY WITH THE PRESENT OBA OF BENIN,AND THERE IS STILL A TABOO,WHICH PROHIBITS ANY AGBOR ROYAL PRINCE FROM MARRYING A BENIN ROYAL PRINCESS.THIS WAS EVIDENT IN THE ROLE PLAYED BY THE OBA IN THE CROWNING OF THE PRESENT KING  OF AGBOR -KIAGBOREKUZI , AND THE TRAINNING HE SUBSEQUENTLY RECEIVED IN THE BENIN ROYAL PALACE.
5. TRADITIONAL RELIGION BINDS BENIN AND IKA TOGETHER AS IN THE PAST THEY WORSHIPPED MOSTLY SAME DEITIES AND PERFORMED SAME CEREMONIES TOGETHER  LIKE IDIGUN, IKABA,IGBOSE,IGUE,IRUA,OVIA, AKE ,OHUMWEEDEN AND THEY BOTH PERFORMED IGUE FESTIVAL TOGETHER IN TIME PAST,AND UP TILL TODAY IGUE IS STILL THE MOST FAMOUS FESTIVAL  OF IKA PEOPLE AND BINIS.
6. BENIN AND IKA HAD MANY SIMILAR CULTURES IN MARRIAGE, SHARING OF PROPERTIES,WAY OF LIFE AND STRUCTURE OF VILLAGE AND TOWNS -EBON(UMU),IDUMU AND OGBE,
7. THE BINIS AND IKAS SHARED SAME TRIBAL MARKS CALLED IGU IN IKA AND CALLED IWU IN BENIN .
8.  THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKAS ARE STILL VERY CLOSE AND EVEN THE BENIN OBA AND CHIEFS STILL COME TO IKA LAND TO SOME TIMES SHARE IN EXCHANGE OF RITUALS AND OTHERS THINGS , MANY IKAS STILL LEAVE IN BENIN TERRITORY AND THEY ARE NOT HARRASSED BUT ARE INTERGRATED INTO THE SCHEME OF THINGS WHILE WE ALSO HAVE MANY BINIS LEAVING IN IKA LAND TOO.
  IF YOU VISIT ANY BENIN WEBSITE TILL TODAY , YOU WILL STILL SEE THAT THEY LIST  IKAS AS BINI RELATED PEOPLE.
9. IKA PEOPLE ALSO SHARE SAME NAMES WITH THE BINIS SUCH AS EHIJIE,OSAGIE,OBAIGBENA,OSABOHIEN,OSAIGBOBU, IZOJIE,ISIBOR  ,IRABOR, E.T.C
10.  THE BINIS AND IKAS CALLED GOD- OSENOBUE,OSELOBUE ,OSANOBUWA  ,AND BELIEVE IN EHI AS GUARDIAN SPIRIT.
11. THERE ARE STILL TODAY ,SOME COMMUNITIES IN IKA LAND , THAT SPEAK AN EDOIC LANGUAGE CALLED OZARRA IN AGBOR  AND THEY ARE IKAS
 HAVING SAID THIS WE ALSO HAVE SOME COMMON CULTURE WITH THE IGBOS ,LIKE .
1. AREA OF HAVING IKENGA DEITIES ,AND PERFORMING THE IWAGI( NEW-YAM) FESTIVAL, ALTHOUGH IKAS HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THEIR IWAGI OR OGBANIGBE.
2.WE ALSO SHARE LANGUAGE SIMILARITY  AS  IKA LANGUAGE ITSELF CONTAINS MANY IGBO WORDS ,SO THE LANGUAGE SHOWS A BROTHERLY LINK ,BETWEEN IKAS AND IGBOS .ALTHOUGH IKA LANGUAGE ALSO CONTAINS WORDS AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT IGBO .
3.  IKA PEOPLE ALSO BEAR MANY IGBO NAMES LIKE CHUKUEMEKE, ISIOMA, NDUKA, EBELE ,CHIBUZOR  E.T.C
            BUT AS IKA PEOPLE,WE HAVE COME TO KNOW THAT THE OLDEST THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THOSE LINKED TO BENIN.BUT HAVING SAID ALL THIS , WHAT THUS  IT  MEAN ,TO US, WE ARE IKAS AND WE WILL LIKE TO  MAINTAIN OUR IDENTITY ,NO MAN OUTSIDE IKA LAND CAN TELL US WHO  WE ARE ,SO AS IKAS WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WE  ARE IKAS.IKAS HAVE NEVER SAID THEY WANT TO BE CALLED BINIS,NEITHER HAVE WE SAID WE WANT TO BE CALLED IGBOS, BUT WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS IKAS.A DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP.
   
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What a load of rubbish. Repetition all the time.
Why not come on line and chat with Nairalanders interested in culture. My guy, this is a chat forum, not where you post same article over and over. Does that not bore you?. It is very boring indeed.
My humble advice to you is to quit using we and use I. Your opinion will never represent the beliefs of Ika people who are Igbo.
You are very advantaged to use the Dept of Igbo language at The college of Education Agbor to improve your Igbo communication skills rather than posting the same crap all the time.
Personally, you may be of Binin ancestry as  your name suggest-Agbontaen or is Omigie?.
You should devote your time to harnessing a united Igbo force that will usurp power from those that have ruled the Igbo people of Delta state since 1991.

oweniwe:

I NEED you ojukwu pickins to ANSWER this QUESTION: Chidi's father is from agbor, delta state but mother is Bini. If you tell chidi that he is igbo because he bears igbo name and his father is from agbor, 1. WILL CHIDI AGREE THAT HE IS IGBO? AND 2. WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY HE WILL AGREE THAT HE IS IGBO?
 

abadaba:

Hey my lil nigger, what does it profit you to be so abusive here. The only thing you can offer from your mental poo brain is either to abusively spell someone's name wrongly or to insult forumites who are not anus lovers as you.
Mother bleed.ing lunatic, behave your self or else,

oweniwe:

Coward! See how he take style dodge fine question. Oloshi Answer question o jare!

abadaba:

What an imbecilic question from a donkey despoiling Poo eater. Oduduwa came from the middle east and settled at Ife. He has a son named Oraminyan. So is Oraminyan and descendats middle easterners or Yorubas today?.
As for you backside mess.ed gutter monkey, learn to respect people here. backside clown.

oweniwe:

the guy's ranting de make me laugh. First, HE ANSWERED A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION, then he bleated some indecipherabilities like a drunken keggite. And the question you asked about oduduwa is total rubbish. You guys are saying that ika are igbo because some ika ancestors are igbo (ika is mixture of benin and igbo). So maybe in your oduduwa question above, you meant to say since the ancestor of the Yoruba came from mecca, then Yoruba people are arab. What you eastern igbo on this thread are doing is- you point finger at a ika man and say since your ancestors are igbo, then you are igbo. Now if an arab man similarly point finger at a Yoruba man and say since your ancestor oduduwa is from mecca, then you are arab, will the Yoruba man agree he is arab? Abeg answer the question i posted earlier in plain sensible english instead of replying with 10th century history juxtaposed with foul slangs

ChinenyeN:

And the nonsense continues. . .

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the people of Anioma just want to be Anioma.

Andre Uweh:

I know that is your wish, am sure if you have the powers to further divide Ndigbo you will grab it with your two hands. Thank God you do not have it.
Why do you comment in such a way, especially at a time when Anioma sons head the apex Igbo organisations?.

asha 80:

ChinenyeN

I hope you know that anioma is not a homogenous group.