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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Dansuqi: 9:35am On Jul 05, 2020
Mayflowa:


I don’t agree with you. The new director has a different signature and it is legal to indicate the issuance date. A good example is the issuance of transcript. The date you ask for it is stated even if you attended school 20 years ago

Except so.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by semyman: 9:36am On Jul 05, 2020
BERNIMOORE:
Tinubu online machieries will do anything to.keep you busy with already settled matter.Please ignore this topic but if you have time you can waste please go on.
Illiterate
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Tareq1105: 9:39am On Jul 05, 2020
Dansuqi:


Why not just say you didn't understand the point the judge was making instead of blabbing ignorantly? The judge took time to painstakingly explain the clear discrepancies noted in the certificate and instead of you to logically and objectively review his comments,you are talking off point.the judge is right.APC can take advantage of this.in the eyes of the law,it can be interpreted as him providing false information

What do they know?

All they were asked to be saying is Edo is not Lagos, nothing more.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by sheyitokz(m): 9:40am On Jul 05, 2020
When he fess enta gomina no be the same cert he tender
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by DarkJeddi(m): 9:43am On Jul 05, 2020
Dansuqi:


Why not just say you didn't understand the point the judge was making instead of blabbing ignorantly? The judge took time to painstakingly explain the clear discrepancies noted in the certificate and instead of you to logically and objectively review his comments,you are talking off point.the judge is right.APC can take advantage of this.in the eyes of the law,it can be interpreted as him providing false information
Why should a Certificate issued on a particular date, proceed to bear a different date as the date of issue?

AM not into politics but that Judge is not making sense..

This is an official document and the date of issue is Sacrosanct..

Moreover anyone that has issues with the said reissued Certificate is free to approach the NYSC for clarification..

THIS is much Ado about Nothing. shocked
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by samdaisi: 9:45am On Jul 05, 2020
I can't blame those people accusing the retired judge because its not everybody that has android phone can read,not everybody that can read can easily assimilate,not everybody that can understand what he/ she read that decode the terminology been used by the retired judge.
again,some have been blindfolded by regional party
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by pquaver(m): 9:46am On Jul 05, 2020
rapid101:
OGA don't defend rubbish abeg dis one and buhari own difference de. buhari no get cert. u and I no d truth

If you cannot see the similarities between how nysc issued his new discharge certificate and the argument you guys bro up.. then i cant help your case ..you can hold on to the lies you told yourself that he has no certificate its ok.i am not here to contest that the court has done the needful. but the foolishness can only be considered legendary sorry
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by alllivesmatter(m): 9:46am On Jul 05, 2020
Maxymilliano:


Mr Retired High Judge

I wonder oooooooooooooo
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by DarkJeddi(m): 9:50am On Jul 05, 2020
samdaisi:
I can't blame those people accusing the retired judge because its not everybody that has android phone can read,not everybody that can read can easily assimilate,not everybody that can understand what he/ she read that decode the terminology been used by the retired judge.
again,some have been blindfolded by regional party
What exactly is he saying?
That he is a retired Judge does not mean that he is immune from partisan politics.

A Certificate was reissued and the date of issue officially indicated on it.

How is that fraudulent?

Why should it bear 1980 when it was issued in 2020?

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by DarkJeddi(m): 9:57am On Jul 05, 2020
xjiggy:
An ex Judge is telling you the legal implications, you're here explaining a lay man's view. What most people don't know is that in law, cases can even be won on technicalities even when the facts are glaring
LOL.. grin

No be all these Ones that pass a judgment in the morning and reverse it by noon?

Na today we dey see judges for Naija?

Bunch of corrupt and inept Clowns..

You don't need any Judge to tell you that an official document is supposed to bear the date in which it was signed and notarized.
So he actually wants the present DG to date 1980 on a document that was signed in 2020?

Senile Clown.. angry

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Nobody: 10:04am On Jul 05, 2020
After analysing the document and soundly thinking things through, I think the retired judge is out of line.

The NYSC period served is clearly stated in the document and in no way conflicts with the date of issue, as date of completion and date of issue are two different things.

We all need to learn to think and not be railroaded by 'oversabis'.

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by rolams(m): 10:17am On Jul 05, 2020
DeeJ1:
Everyone just wan dey make noise dey hear im own voice.

It is clearly stated on the certificate that he served from 7 August 1979 to 6 August 1980.

The date of issuance of this rectified certificate is correctly written (19 June 2020) as the issuing officer (Director General) is a different person with a different signature.

Anyone who has reservations about the authenticity of any legal document or certificate is duty-bound to verify from the issuing body/institution.

Common sense!


Simple!
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by MICHEALADEX(m): 10:26am On Jul 05, 2020
His problem
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Cantonese: 10:30am On Jul 05, 2020
These are the kind of judges that have brought this country to this very low level. A very reckless and irresponsible judge without wisdom or even little commonsense.

NYSC acknowledged their document, error and effected correction. What else is there to prove? If there is any disagreement is it not commonsense to contact NYSC?

His hatred for Obaseki and complete bias has revealed who he is as one of those judges who are sympathetic and owe their allegiances to certain political parties. They end up giving judgements in favour of their favoured parties.

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by lomprico(m): 10:38am On Jul 05, 2020
pquaver:



Wow very good reasoning... Pls can you now apply this sense now to Buhari's certificate you guys have been making noise on since. Now you know exactly how you guys looked then..

can you tell your Buhari to provide the original one he was issued?

at least we saw the original one issued to obaseki and the new corrected one.

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by chocolatelady(f): 10:41am On Jul 05, 2020
At times I wonder why some people are just daft or pretend to be one. The retired Judge explained based on his knowledge about the law and u guys are here sprewing trash. I wonder what Obaseki was thinking when he got d certificate and notice the discrepancy on his name? Why did he return it to NYSC that same day. It is not a hard thing to do. This Nigerian mentality of I don’t care attitude needs to be addressed honestly. Why didn't he go to the NYSC office in the state he served to complain. I tell u nobody will see that certificate and not do anything possible to correct the mistake for him from DG NYSC. This is purely a case of carelessness on his side which may likely cost him more if care is not taken. After 40years, he is correcting it with 2020 date. He will need more explanation for this new NYSC certificate to sell. Now going back to correct it again to show 1980 date, what about the serial number and the DG NYSC that signed the certificates of his set in 1980 ? So many controversies surrounding this man and he still wants to be Governor. Okay, let’s see how it plays out.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Mayng01(m): 10:45am On Jul 05, 2020
That judge is working for apc, tinubu & oshiomole.

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Reallink: 10:45am On Jul 05, 2020
[Yeye ppl, where U when Buhari submitted a new testimonial after 60yrs
uote author=DeeJ1 post=91385612]Everyone just wan dey make noise dey hear im own voice.

It is clearly stated on the certificate that he served from 7 August 1979 to 6 August 1980.

The date of issuance of this rectified certificate is correctly written (19 June 2020) as the issuing officer (Director General) is a different person with a different signature.

Anyone who has reservations about the authenticity of any legal document or certificate is duty-bound to verify from the issuing body/institution.

Common sense!

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Dmano: 10:45am On Jul 05, 2020
Of a truth this man is not supposed to near anyway close to any court room,not to talk of being a judge

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Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by sleekdre: 10:54am On Jul 05, 2020
Yeye judge.. I bet he didn't see that NYSC decree in d new certificate is 2004. Do you expect the new DG to use the obsolete 1973 decree to issue a certificate in 2020 just to sign 1980?
No wonder our judiciary system is where they are today...

Besides, he has a letter to back the change up and a copy of the old one too .. So go figure!
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Dybala11(m): 11:08am On Jul 05, 2020
Dansuqi:


Why not just say you didn't understand the point the judge was making instead of blabbing ignorantly? The judge took time to painstakingly explain the clear discrepancies noted in the certificate and instead of you to logically and objectively review his comments,you are talking off point.the judge is right.APC can take advantage of this.in the eyes of the law,it can be interpreted as him providing false information
Are you also insinuating that the reissued certificate should have carried 1980 as it's issuance date, when the year it was issued, the director that issued the new certificate and the signature of the current director is different from that of 1980. Think bro, think. Didn't you know that the new director could be prosecuted for forgery if he appends the signature of a former director on a new certificate??
I also experienced something similar to this years ago, I went to my secondary school to obtain a document I should have obtained years ago, it was the name of the new principal in charge, his signature and the date he issued the document that was written on it, not that of the previous principal, although the year I attended the school was clearly stated in the document too. Any individual that disagree with the document is under obligation to verify from appropriate quarters.
Imagine how a supposed retired judge is thinking. grin
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by dallyemmy: 11:11am On Jul 05, 2020
Retired Judge?
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by AdebayoL(m): 11:33am On Jul 05, 2020
I'm totally disagree with the submission of the retired judge, (1) the then director of nysc in1980 is different from the current director of nysc in 2020 (2) the signature on the nysc discharge certificate in 1980 is different from the current signature in the discharge nysc certificate in 2020.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by myrates: 11:37am On Jul 05, 2020
DeeJ1:
Everyone just wan dey make noise dey hear im own voice.

It is clearly stated on the certificate that he served from 7 August 1979 to 6 August 1980.

The date of issuance of this rectified certificate is correctly written (19 June 2020) as the issuing officer (Director General) is a different person with a different signature.

Anyone who has reservations about the authenticity of any legal document or certificate is duty-bound to verify from the issuing body/institution.

Common sense!

You're absolutely correct. I'm surprised that a whole retired judge of high court would make such an error of judgement that a new certificate issued to correct an error in a previous one should be backdated. Backdating in itself is a fraud.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by seunayantokun(m): 11:39am On Jul 05, 2020
The judge is retired. Please leave him alone.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by ezekins: 11:45am On Jul 05, 2020
You are a compromised retired high court judge working for apc. It's pertinent for me to draw your attention to the fact that the recipient of a certificate duly issued by an issuing authority can't be held liable for legal liability of the issuer. Human errors are known to law and even where there is no law civility demands you do what is right.

NYSC has held obaseki legally harmless. There is no case against obaseki as it has been proven he didn't forge the certificate or the alteration was not his making. It would have been criminal in nature for the certificate to be backdated. The current date recognises the date the certificate was reissued.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by benji93: 12:01pm On Jul 05, 2020
We don Immortalize Hush Puppi him name. Very soon him name go enter dictionary grin.
SmartchildTutor:
Useless talk.
Every Hush, Puppi and Raymond now wants to say something.
I wonder what kind of judgement this one would've delivered if this kind of case was brought to him.
He doesn't know that it is wrong for Kazaure to sign a document whose date of issuance is 1980 when Obasa was NYSC DG.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Nobody: 12:09pm On Jul 05, 2020
Be should have just used his secondary school cert to avoid trouble.
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by Basher8583: 12:18pm On Jul 05, 2020
DeeJ1:
Everyone just wan dey make noise dey hear im own voice.

It is clearly stated on the certificate that he served from 7 August 1979 to 6 August 1980.

The date of issuance of this rectified certificate is correctly written (19 June 2020) as the issuing officer (Director General) is a different person with a different signature.

Anyone who has reservations about the authenticity of any legal document or certificate is duty-bound to verify from the issuing body/institution.

Common sense!


You get degree at all not to even talk of law degree.

Stop learning from social media. Go to school
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by byteem: 12:22pm On Jul 05, 2020
Esseite:
How can a judge say that a corrected version of a certificate should be backdated to issuance date...
- What happens to certificate serial number?
- How do you backdate directors signature?
- did the judge consider the distort of data?

Judge na wah ooo..

Why do the courts not backdate "date of birth" affidavit rather than using date of new issue?


This one is retired.. the dude is looking for a meal.. naa..
Re: Obaseki: Justice Roland Amaize Faults New NYSC Certificate Issued To Governor by mandate12: 12:24pm On Jul 05, 2020
DeeJ1:
Everyone just wan dey make noise dey hear im own voice.

It is clearly stated on the certificate that he served from 7 August 1979 to 6 August 1980.

The date of issuance of this rectified certificate is correctly written (19 June 2020) as the issuing officer (Director General) is a different person with a different signature.

Anyone who has reservations about the authenticity of any legal document or certificate is duty-bound to verify from the issuing body/institution.

Common sense!


This should b the most foolish judge ATM.. it's clearly stated there - duration of service and date of issue. See how he has belittled himself because of ITK

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