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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by josh0200(m): 5:44pm On Aug 20, 2020
The church of God cannot be controlled by government of a country be it a government headed by a Muslim or Christian ;I know some people will come here and say some "silly" things but let's not forget what happened to Saul before he became Paul. Now the government should beware before it comes face to face with the Mountain.
This is a head-on collision course waiting to happen if the government go ahead with this law.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by EdiskyHarry: 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
MURIC is happy now, Islamic terrorist groups are happy now, their plans are working slowly, but the gate of hell shall not prevail against the church of God.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by michoim(m): 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
Seun:
There are many other terrible things in that law.
Show us...

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by isa6namo(m): 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
Omooba77:


Go to Holy See.....

Some people are pushing this Great Country to predictions of Pre 2015........
The government is clueless

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by michoim(m): 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
EdiskyHarry:
MURIC is happy now, Islamic terrorist groups are happy now, their plans are working slowly, but the gate of hell shall not prevail against the church of God.
Yeah, supported
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by SaintLucia: 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
seguno2:


Are mosques also treated similarly by the Act
U can't even see two mosques side by side in a street. On Friday, the smaller mosques will be closed and all Muslims will proceed to the central mosque to pray something which u can't see in Christianity on Sunday. Every pastor believed say his or her church is the best, hence the reason why u see seven to eight churches in a street, all because of money. A Muslim whether shitte or Sunni can enter any mosque and pray but a Catholic cannot even worship in a celestial church neither will a Baptist worship in Cherubim. The koko be say u can't make money in a mosque but u can make cool cash if u have your own church. The CAMA law is not different from what we have in Europe and America and pastor like Oyedepo respect the law over there. The law is for all religion that mismanage the financial income of their institutions including NGOs.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Omooba77: 5:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
Coronavirus1:

Oga no battle there government not trying to control church don't let nobody brainwash you ,it's right thing been done allover the world to control frauds in religious places politicians use religious leaders to do money laundering that is what the government is trying to stop.government is not asking religious houses to pay tax ,so the law should stay am a Christian not a Muslim

Not a polarised environment like ours....
Can you compare us to Europe and US
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by OpinionCounts(m): 5:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
If not that a lot of the churches of this era has lost their spiritual strength in Christ because of worldly chase and enticement, matters like this were very very easy piece of cake to handle in the days of the early church...a true prophet will just stand in the alter of God and make a divine proclamation on all that partook in this taboo law and the nation will just watch and see how the so called leaders will just be falling dead everywhere like headless chickens until they run to the church to repent of their mockery.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by ransomed: 5:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
seunmsg:
Rejecting the new law in the media won't have any effect. The new CAMA is now a law that must be complied with by all afeected parties. If CAN feels that the law violates the fundamental and constitutional right of its members, they should go ahead and challenge the legality of the law in a court of competent jurisdiction. Anything other than that is just empty noise.

The CAMA law does not give room to court to look into any case. CAMA is a subtle way of destroying the Church of God in Nigeria. Ntoor to Christians who voted for next level.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Buksaylor: 5:49pm On Aug 20, 2020

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by DeePsalmuel: 5:50pm On Aug 20, 2020
The reason why this religious bodies have their association in the first place is for them to administer their affairs. Government should face the enormous problem we have in this Country....it sounds so bad how a man who can't administer the affiars of his family now coming to administer the affiars of great churches and mosques.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by membranus: 5:51pm On Aug 20, 2020
My own take is that those associations who are calling themselves churches in Nigeria are not actually churches in the eyes of God.

God knows His own Church, and its members are precious in His eyes, and He goes extra miles to protect them.

The so called Nigerian churches needs statutory control, they are supposed to help and support their members, but rather they are mostly involved in extorting their members through one form of project or another. Their leaders and their families live like kings, while their members remained in their pauperish states, awaiting their rewards in Heaven.

The financial activities of churches abroad are being monitored by authorities, and that does not stop these countries development. We need that in Nigeria too.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Lawrence234: 5:54pm On Aug 20, 2020
Omooba77:


https://punchng.com/can-rejects-cama-says-govt-cannot-control-churches/

We were begging Christians to joins hands and not allow this government come in, we were insulted, called names, ‘let’s remove religion from politics’ was what we kept hearing from Christians’. As if that was not enough, we still prayed and brought them back. Hmmmm. May we receive the fortitude to bear this avoidable pains.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by BOFA2020: 5:54pm On Aug 20, 2020
Criminal Association of Nigeria- CAN. Enough said.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Jostoman: 5:54pm On Aug 20, 2020
Dreal1247:
This is one way through which strange practices could be imported into the body of Christ. A canal mind cannot understand the things of the spirit. The Christian body needs to write the presidency as well as the law makers.
this is what this disaster government want to use to divert our attention again, nobody to do their propaganda with again.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by eagleu: 5:55pm On Aug 20, 2020
emmnprince:


I see your point!

Government that is not serving the people as they should took it upon "themselves" to interfere in religious matter, clearly targeted the Church in this context.

When religious leaders meddle into government affairs and flaunt their flamboyant lifestyles so glaring before the Government's eyes, what do you expect!

In this case, Romans 13:1-7 comes to mind:
[b]Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
- Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
- For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same;
- for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
- Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake.
- For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing.
- Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.[/b]


1 Peter 2:13-15 says:
Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme, or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men—


. . .and Acts 4:19 and 5:29:
But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge;

But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.



If these laws are passed to law, and religious leaders refuses to obey it, then anarchy is bound to happen soonest because there would be conflict of interests between the two parties!


Even the devil himself can quote the Bible.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by makjo900: 5:57pm On Aug 20, 2020
Omooba77:


[b]I was somewhere in the north and west during 2015 election, what I had coming from mosques in the morning baffled me....
[/b]Immams telling congregants not to vote for infidel and keferi.....

What has your government done with all the taxes?......
Rather during closure some private individuals have privilege of jetting out....

Church opened even Nairaland can feel the pause, the number of people posting account numbers have greatly reduced, because somehow; the Church, Pastors and some members are bearing the burden....
Ema bere ogun lori lede yi.....
A word is enough for the wise.....
Lalasticlala how is Chi baby........


You christians are bunch of hypocritical and settlemental haters. Muslims call you infidels and you find it wrong but its perfectly fine to call them and other non Christians infidels and ofcourse without ur useless jesus they are hell candidates.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by makjo900: 5:59pm On Aug 20, 2020
OpinionCounts:
If not that a lot of the churches of this era has lost their spiritual strength in Christ because of worldly chase and enticement, matters like this were very very easy piece of cake to handle in the days of the early church...a true prophet will just stand in the alter of God and make a divine proclamation on all that partook in this taboo law and the nation will just watch and see how the so called leaders will just be falling dead everywhere like headless chickens until they run to the church to repent of their mockery.


Lol, you must really be a forth grader to believe this hullabaloo but if you are otherwise then I'm afraid you aren't only braindead but also beyond redemption

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by seunmsg(m): 5:59pm On Aug 20, 2020
ransomed:


The CAMA law does not give room to court to look into any case. CAMA is a subtle way of destroying the Church of God in Nigeria. Ntoor to Christians who voted for next level.

Rubbish. There is no law that can’t be challenged in a court of law. Go to court to challenge the constitutionality of the law instead of spewing rubbish all over the place.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Oracleforce: 6:00pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:


The churches brought this upon themselves.

There are many muslim communities just like Zakzaky group in North. They mind their business and never get involved in govt issues. Zakyzaky stays in govt business all the time. Thats why he is in trouble now.

Jonathan set a bad precedence when he will have these pastors meddling govt business. They got too comfortable and started commenting on what govt is doing or not doing. When you are a tax exempt organization, stay away from govt the best you can. Put a long distance between you and govt. Govt has all the rules and ways to fvk up anyone, if they choose to. These churches did same thing Zakyzaky did, started fvkng with govt. So now govt wants to fcvk with them too. Its unfortunate but its reality.

There is a pastor in America called Pastor Dollar or something like that. He used to condemn govt and live large and flaunt. One of their legislators got on his case and wanted to probe him and his church. The Pastor got the message at that point.

If CAMA can bring out same result in Nigerian pastors it will be great. The money they waste on acquiring jets and building for-profit private institutions should be better used in promoting wellbeing and supporting the needs of communities and people. At the end of it, people benefit when churches come to their aid in times of distress and need.

With all the millions your governors have been collecting...how has it bettered the lives of your people....e-gullible crew.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by ransomed: 6:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
Now is the time to unleash Biafra and Oduduwa kingdom (OK). What is the relationship between light and darkness? Imagine a rep with four wives and twenty seven children being appointed as board chairman of Catholic church. God forbid.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Deborah98(f): 6:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
In my humble opinion,the should leave places of worship out of whatever law they are enacting,making or trying to enforce,,,, you can't put God to test, don't try it
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Oracleforce: 6:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
BOFA2020:
Criminal Association of Nigeria- CAN. Enough said.

slowpoke spotted...
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by faithfull18(f): 6:02pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hmmn!
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 6:02pm On Aug 20, 2020
genkins:
How do you know they were called by God. And which God?
And how does govt hijack the relationship to be monitoring?
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by perdollar(m): 6:02pm On Aug 20, 2020
it's part of the islamization of Nigeria. we just av to wage crusade now and take over mecca and medina
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by LoveJesus87(m): 6:04pm On Aug 20, 2020
Brandstudio01:
So who controls the Church is now more important than dozens of needs pressing the nation and it's citizens?

What could really be wrong with black man?

Abeg jare , I will Design a Professional Logo for your product or Business for 2k Only
you very clearly have critical mental problem. You should be in mental asylum seriously speaking assuming we have a functioning system. Why couldn't you just keep quiet and cover your shame of stupidity. You are a waste to this world. Even if you are not a Christian, you can't think for once Pls don't quote me. Just go and hang yourself. I don't exchange words with mad people. God forbid
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by joepepsy(m): 6:04pm On Aug 20, 2020
Who is jesus? Is he a black man, the only prophet I know is Martin Luther King.
Righteousness89:
The Government of the Day should be apply wisdom , Take off their Hands from the Church and not make Mockery of themselves..

It's Unbiblical! Unscriptural , Demonic , Occultic and Satanic..

The Presidency should be well advised! You don't Start a War you Cannot Finish.

It's Foolishness to think or try in any Form to Fight against the Church of God.

It Foolishness to start a Fight against your Creator.

It Does not End Well...

Haman Tried it
Pharoah Tried it
Nebuchadnezzar Tried it..

We are Still in the Seasons of Judgement. Many Have Gone!

Any Mere Creature that Tries will Go like Others..



Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by LoveJesus87(m): 6:06pm On Aug 20, 2020
seunmsg:
Rejecting the new law in the media won't have any effect. The new CAMA is now a law that must be complied with by all afeected parties. If CAN feels that the law violates the fundamental and constitutional right of its members, they should go ahead and challenge the legality of the law in a court of competent jurisdiction. Anything other than that is just empty noise.
yes. I pray they have a competent lawyer who can advise them well regarding that
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by ransomed: 6:06pm On Aug 20, 2020
seunmsg:


Rubbish. There is no law that can’t be challenged in a court of law. Go to court to challenge the constitutionality of the law instead of spewing rubbish all over the place.

Go and get a copy and read before you "rubbish" everything on our faces. The law excludes the court and gave absolute power to the minister (politicians)
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by chuksjuve(m): 6:07pm On Aug 20, 2020
Righteousness89:
The Government of the Day should be apply wisdom , Take off their Hands from the Church and not make Mockery of themselves..

It's Unbiblical! Unscriptural , Demonic , Occultic and Satanic..

The Presidency should be well advised! You don't Start a War you Cannot Finish.

It's Foolishness to think or try in any Form to Fight against the Church of God.

It Foolishness to start a Fight against your Creator.

It Does not End Well...

Haman Tried it
Pharoah Tried it
Nebuchadnezzar Tried it..

We are Still in the Seasons of Judgement. Many Have Gone!

Any Mere Creature that Tries will Go like Others..







God bless you sir for your steadfastness amid the cynics and tirades of mockery folks have always thrown at your for standing firm for God in all your takes .

No matter their gang up against you, they can't pull you down neither can they quench God's light in you.

Keep it up, heaven will reward you greatly.

Shalom

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Ajixegun: 6:08pm On Aug 20, 2020
Let's put aside the bad eggs among the churches (if there is original there must be fake), it seems the government doesn't know the roles church plays in Nigeria; from the alms giving to fear of God they preach to people (even though people don't obey to fullest but it keeps reminding them to soft pedal on their dealings). If the good ones among them stop preaching the fear of God, I fear for Nigeria.

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