I read a comment in a post https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3402.0.html about java. I didnt read it completely because I am STRONGLY anti-Java.

As far as I am concerned, JAVA has failed. It started with a hype - Write Once, Run Anywhere. Has anyone done that? I don't think so. One good thing, JAVa opened our eyes to a concept which was right under our noses: use a platform specific engine while the high level language can be written in well - high level. The code is translated to a intermediate form which is run.

.NET from Microsoft uses the same principle, so is RunRev (from http://runrev.com.

A friend of mine wanted to convert me to Java, giving me theory, history and other .... I stopped withone simple question "Which JAVA program have you written that runs on Windows (all variants), Linux, Unix, Mac, Solaris, OS2, Symbian, Palm"

guy ... there are plenty multi-platform java apps out there.

africanboy:

I read a comment in a post about Java. I didn't read it completely because I am STRONGLY anti-Java.

As far as I am concerned, JAVA has failed. It started with a hype - Write Once, Run Anywhere. Has anyone done that? I don't think so. One good thing, JAVa opened our eyes to a concept which was right under our noses: use a platform specific engine while the high level language can be written in well - high level. The code is translated to a intermediate form which is run.

.NET from Microsoft uses the same principle, so is RunRev (from http://runrev.com).

A friend of mine wanted to convert me to Java, giving me theory, history and other .... I stopped withone simple question "Which JAVA program have you written that runs on Windows (all variants), Linux, Unix, Mac, Solaris, OS2, Symbian, Palm"

Java programmers in the house, eat my head off.

(More on this on my blog)

I donot know how to write a programme, but i used java script, i mean the one that has me made already and they work fine for me. up till now i still used java script because i found it simple to use.
I think Java is still alive!

And HOW abego!! do you come across this information that amazon uses C and C++ for their backend system? Do you work for amazon? It is always a secret for companies to hind their middleware and backend technologies. You can only know their frontend, but others, wow!!! You are a genius to figure that out.

"africanboy":

java is not an evolution of c++, concepts differ entirely, in my opinion.

Read this [url=wwwbtb/book/chap1/java_hist.html">http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~wwwbtb/book/chap1/java_hist.html]link[/url], make sure you read it to the end.

"africanboy":

i want to write a simple program in java and i must code the interface like i were use turbo C in DOS. no thanks.
i know there are GUI builders - jbuilder etc, but even their interface is not as conducive the "visual studio" anybody agree?

Java has many programming applicability.  You can code a GUI, standalone, Network application, distributed application, graphics application, web application, mobile application, satellite application the list goes on and on.   I don't know where you are learning your java to code a simple java say hello world this is all it takes.

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import java.io.*;

public class HelloWorld{
  public static void main (String args[]){
         System.out.print("Hello World";
   }
}

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I do not see any GUI API in here.  For GUI application you'd import AWT (Abstract Window ToolKit). java.io. is the package that java put its basic input/output routine hence io.

"africanboy":

case sensitivity in coding kills me. period.

I understand your frustration with sensitivity in coding programs.  If you have ever involved in big software development project, where GUI department is different, Networking developer is different dept., in fact to put it more professional, if you have ever invloved in N-tier application development, you'd understand why case sensitive is very important. 

The Software Engineers would not tolerate each dept. with shaddy coding and none Java recommended naming convention

"africanboy":

with the current trend of software as services, how does java hope to catch up, will everyone have to download a 130mb SDK to compile a source code. maybe not.

Java is NOT a script language like PHP/ASP,  it is a full application development tool.  So 130mb is for a full java API's and IDE for developing Java application.  If you want java script language you can download Servlet.jar and Jsp.jar, put it in you classpath and of you go with all your web application development.

Listen, you really need to enlighten up, I do not come here to argue blindly, I want to share knowledge with professional NOT jerks.

africanboy:

symbian sis games are just better with better graphics.
java applications on the PC, nah, not interested. i started using the PC in 1999 and got exposed to some win3.1 for workgroup. java apps remind of just that. why would i want to use an application that loks like that.

africanboy:

java is not an evolution of c++, concepts differ entirely, in my opinion.

africanboy:

i want to write a simple program in java and i must code the interface like i were use turbo C in DOS. no thanks.
i know there are GUI builders - jbuilder etc, but even their interface is not as conducive the "visual studio" anybody agree?

africanboy:

case sensitivity in coding kills me. period.

africanboy:

with the current trend of software as services, how does java hope to catch up, will everyone have to download a 130mb SDK to compile a source code. maybe not.

"mochafella":

VAR,Var,vAR,VAr in different places

import java.io.*;

public class HelloWorld{
 public static void main (String args[]){
        System.out.print("Hello World";
  }
}

Oak would have to be completely platform independent, and function seamlessly regardless of the type of CPU in the device. For this reason, Oak was designed to be an interpreted language, since it would be practically impossible for a complied version to run on all available platforms

africanboy:

Send me a "GOOD" GUI/IDE tool, and SDK and I will try it again even just for the sake of proving why it should be buried.

africanboy:

Java was an idea light years ahead of its time, but unfortunately it was not properly managed. From the hype, it seemed people would not rest until every electrical applicance had java programmes running on them.