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Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beverlyjean(f): 10:25pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beedude:

Lolz. Overall career trophies won. Messi isn't Ronaldo's make.
Take that to the bank

Lol...but ronaldos trophies are more valuable...ronaldo has more varieties which is more important... majority of messi's titles ate just la liga and copa de rey....75 % of his trophies comprises of la liga and copa de rey and Spanish Super cup
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beedude(m): 10:29pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beverlyjean:


U c y they say messi fans are hypocrites...they mention that Ronaldo is only about goal scoring but also challenge when last he won golden boot like messi... ronaldo fans care more about important goals and titles... ronaldo compliments his goals with important trophies... messi only has individual achievements in spain alone... only one top scorer in Cl in 5 years...only bullies small teams in spain to achieve golden boot , but finds it hard to do it in the CL cos chairman play the CL
Pls leave the Rant.
Why can't Ronaldo bully small teams in La Liga.
La Liga was a stroll for Barca when Ronaldo was in Madrid. He couldn't win up to 4 La Liga trophies in 8years.
First 5 yrs in Madrid he couldn't reach ucl final not until the signings of Bale, Modric and others.
Even without Ronaldo, Madrid won La Liga.
Without Messi, Barca won't smell La Liga so fast.

Most of you just don't like the fact that Messi is making headlines with a very huge amount being mentioned in the deal. This is an amount Ronaldo can only dream of and can't be paid till he hung up.

Ronaldo is good no doubt. But saying a 6 time balon d or winner is overrated is shit
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beedude(m): 10:31pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Lol...but ronaldos trophies are more valuable...ronaldo has more varieties which is more important... majority of messi's titles ate just la liga and copa de rey....75 % of his trophies comprises of la liga and copa de rey and Spanish Super cup
Are you the valuer of trophies?
More valuer indeed.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beverlyjean(f): 10:37pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beedude:

Are you the valuer of trophies?
More valuer indeed.

Common sense should let u know...unless u are biased
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beverlyjean(f): 10:41pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beedude:

Pls leave the Rant.
Why can't Ronaldo bully small teams in La Liga.
La Liga was a stroll for Barca when Ronaldo was in Madrid. He couldn't win up to 4 La Liga trophies in 8years.
First 5 yrs in Madrid he couldn't reach ucl final not until the signings of Bale, Modric and others.
Even without Ronaldo, Madrid won La Liga.
Without Messi, Barca won't smell La Liga so fast.

Most of you just don't like the fact that Messi is making headlines with a very huge amount being mentioned in the deal. This is an amount Ronaldo can only dream of and can't be paid till he hung up.

Ronaldo is good no doubt. But saying a 6 time balon d or winner is overrated is shit

Messi is making headlines cos his situation is controversial..and controversy sells...modric bale and others won it cos of ronaldo... ronaldo is the only madrid player in that team that has won CL with 2 different teams...
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by AustineJohn908(m): 11:38pm On Sep 02, 2020
Beedude:

Changing goal post aiidy.
How many world cup has Ronaldo won?
How many La Liga does Ronaldo have?
How many pinchini does he have in La Liga?

Deal with that first before bringing on Mbappe.
Just like Ronaldo scored highest goals for 6 years straight in the championship league and Messi till now haven't won the highest goals scorer in the Champion league. something Lewy of yesterday just won... Tofiakwa!

deal with that
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beedude(m): 6:58am On Sep 03, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Messi is making headlines cos his situation is controversial..and controversy sells...modric bale and others won it cos of ronaldo... ronaldo is the only madrid player in that team that has won CL with 2 different teams...
But couldn't win the ucl in Madrid for 4 years till those guys joined him.

If it was all about Ronaldo, then he should have stopped Barca when they met in 08/09 season when he faced Barca at the final.
Or
He should have taken Juve to the final at least in the last 2 years.

A balance team brings out the best in every player.
U folks make it look like Ronaldo alone is the reason for Madrid's success in the UCL.
I guess players like Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, Di Maria, Modric are just figure heads.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beverlyjean(f): 7:29am On Sep 03, 2020
Beedude:

But couldn't win the ucl in Madrid for 4 years till those guys joined him.

If it was all about Ronaldo, then he should have stopped Barca when they met in 08/09 season when he faced Barca at the final.
Or
He should have taken Juve to the final at least in the last 2 years.

A balance team brings out the best in every player.
U folks make it look like Ronaldo alone is the reason for Madrid's success in the UCL.
I guess players like Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, Di Maria, Modric are just figure heads.

Ask Lewandowski y he couldn't lead bayern to the final in pver five years since he joined them...or in ur own words , he couldn't win it till Davies , gnabry and coutinho joined the team... ronaldo won it in his fifth year after hitting 3 consecutive semi finals , u should hv known it was just a matter of time...the same with bayern, they had appeared in 4 semi finals in 6 attempts till they won it this season...but barca had only appeared in on semi final in 5 years and had been disgrace 2ice after holding commanding leads...disgraced by bayern and knocked by Atletico 2ice comfortably...with messi failing to influence those games

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Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 2:09pm On Sep 03, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Lol...really... stand out performance dont guarantee titles ....if he cudnt do it for barca in recent years...he wudnt b able to do it in latter years

Lol....a player doesn't guarantee titles either except it's an individual title. A player can only be influential in his team winning the title at most 50%. At a point, the other ten have to step up too and help out.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by tegrianonigltd(m): 12:47am On Sep 06, 2020
omooba969:


If you actually think it's that easy to achieve what Pep&Messi have achieved together, then I will show you managers and players given equal opportunity/privilege but failed to deliver.

Don't you disrespect those two geniuses. cool

Klopp and Pep who is more genius? Man city defense is times 10 of Liverpool defense, same as Bayern and Dortmund, pep even used Klopp bois, hummers, lewandoski and co, even in man city there is klopp boy there. Tell me a manager given the platform pep has and didn’t utilize it, tell me a player who played with the best of the best and didn’t utilize it, even Eto made use of the world greats, Ronaldinho and Deco.

If I am correct 7 or 8 of Barca men were first team, that won 2 euro and 1 worldcup
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 12:12pm On Sep 06, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Messi is making headlines cos his situation is controversial..and controversy sells...modric bale and others won it cos of ronaldo... ronaldo is the only madrid player in that team that has won CL with 2 different teams...

Bale and others won it cos of Ronaldo??....Wow that's new.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 12:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
AustineJohn908:
Just like Ronaldo scored highest goals for 6 years straight in the championship league and Messi till now haven't won the highest goals scorer in the Champion league. something Lewy of yesterday just won... Tofiakwa!

deal with that

I wonder who won it in 2019
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Beverlyjean(f): 1:17pm On Sep 06, 2020
Moura7:


Bale and others won it cos of Ronaldo??....Wow that's new.

But u can scream that messis titles are down to him ...shey??
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 2:22pm On Sep 06, 2020
Beverlyjean:


But u can scream that messis titles are down to him ...shey??

I remember quoting you just this week saying that team trophies are won by teams and not players individually. An individual can only be at most 50% instrumental to a team winning the title.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by AustineJohn908(m): 3:41pm On Sep 06, 2020
Moura7:


I wonder who won it in 2019
ok Messi won it in 2019...first time in 8 years by just a mere 12 goals...something that Ronaldo whenever he wins it is nothing less than 15..in the pass 8 years
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 4:52pm On Sep 06, 2020
AustineJohn908:
ok Messi won it in 2019...first time in 8 years by just a mere 12 goals...something that Ronaldo whenever he wins it is nothing less than 15..in the pass 8 years

ok let's see , Ronaldo has won it a record seven times
2008= 8
2013= 12
2014= 17
2015= 10
2016= 16
2017= 12
2018= 15.....So you see he's only been 15 and above thrice and not everytime like you claimed.
Also Messi also had it in 2015 too, so the one last year wasn't his first in 8 yrs.

P.S Messi has won it 6 times just one shy of Ronaldo and that's saying alot for someone who has been playing from deep in the last few years.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by AustineJohn908(m): 5:44pm On Sep 06, 2020
Moura7:


ok let's see , Ronaldo has won it a record seven times
2008= 8
2013= 12
2014= 17
2015= 10
2016= 16
2017= 12
2018= 15.....So you see he's only been 15 and above thrice and not everytime like you claimed.
Also Messi also had it in 2015 too, so the one last year wasn't his first in 8 yrs.

P.S Messi has won it 6 times just one shy of Ronaldo and that's saying alot for someone who has been playing from deep in the last few years.
Ok na, from deep ba...he is playing 10... attacking midfield facing the post..
RONALDO is playing wings, adjacent to the post and crossing the ball to the main 9...so no excuse.
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 5:51pm On Sep 06, 2020
AustineJohn908:
Ok na, from deep ba...he is playing 10... attacking midfield facing the post..
RONALDO is playing wings, adjacent to the post and crossing the ball to the main 9...so no excuse.

Lol.....sorry, this is laughable. When last did you watch Ronaldo play?
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by AustineJohn908(m): 6:01pm On Sep 06, 2020
Moura7:


Lol.....sorry, this is laughable. When last did you watch Ronaldo play?
I should ask you same Question about Messi.
because Mane dey come middle come score sometimes no mean say him be striker.
because Sterling dey run in come score no mean say him be striker.

and for ur info, Messi is an 8. assistant striker..
it means if the striker aren't there to tap the ball in, the 8 will be there
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by Moura7(m): 7:58pm On Sep 06, 2020
AustineJohn908:
I should ask you same Question about Messi.
because Mane dey come middle come score sometimes no mean say him be striker.
because Sterling dey run in come score no mean say him be striker.

and for ur info, Messi is an 8. assistant striker..
it means if the striker aren't there to tap the ball in, the 8 will be there

lol....ok. if you think so
Re: Is Messi Still Good Enough For A Big Price Tag Or Is He In Decline? by AustineJohn908(m): 9:23pm On Sep 06, 2020
Moura7:

lol....ok. if you think so
I say so

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