Beaf:

An almajiri uprising is impossible, they only hear the views of their Imams. They aren't part of the facebook and twitter generation.

EzeUche_:

Well their Imams are not illiterate though. They are actually quite educated, and they know how to control their people. The Emirs and the politicians know it is the Imams who hold the real power in the North. That is why they try to keep their support.

Beaf:

The machinery that created the almajiri system will never use it to destroy itself, someone else has to sieze control.

EzeUche_:

That is true, but currently, the Imams are aligned with the political leadership and the emirs. A pious Imam could lead a revolution in that region, just like Uthman dan Fodio did over 200 years ago.

Beaf:

It will only look like another Boko Haram uprising. The North is in no position to rise against its elite, an uprising is more likely from the South and traditionally, the South has always led the way in such events, from NLC actions to student riots to the June 12th uprising.

EzeUche_:

People tend to underestimate the strength of Boko Haram and its widespread appeal. They target everyone from their own politicians and outsiders. There will be an uprising in the North, and the Emirs and the political leadership will ask for the South's help. However, they allowed their region to go underdeveloped so they have to be prepared for the consequences.

No region in the Nigeria is in such dire straits as compared to the North. Too many hungry mouths up there who can turn on their leadership.

Beaf:

The North can only be moved to largescale uprising through religion, not because they are poor. If there is ever such largescale demonstrations in the North, the South would already be up in flames, cos thats where it will be led from. Our mini revo's have always started up between Benin and Lagos and our educated radicals tend to come mainly from the SW and old Midwest areas, not from the North (except the likes of Aminu Kano).

EzeUche_:

Well their Imams are not illiterate though. They are actually quite educated, and they know how to control their people. The Emirs and the politicians know it is the Imams who hold the real power in the North. That is why they try to keep their support.

alj harem:

can you shut your mouth for once,.,. ideeiot only a mumu like u can talk like that

ShangoThor:

Seriously AljHarem, it sounds like Beaf has rattled your cage, what exactly is your problem with his statement?

Beaf:

It will only look like another Boko Haram uprising. The North is in no position to rise against its elite, an uprising is more likely from the South and traditionally, the South has always led the way in such events, from NLC actions to student riots to the June 12th uprising.

alj harem:

mr southern unity can you not read
why can't the north rise against the elite are they handikapped is it not the same thing that is happening in lybia, egypt and co

you keep saying stu.pid things that he knows nothing about

ShangoThor:

Well all you have to do is prove him wrong, revolt and protest against oppression without finding the need to constantly slaughter Kaffir or Southerners and for the first time demonstrate that you can put the Nation State of Nigeria first.

alj harem:

brother, i have always wanted nigeria to unite and progress as a nation.,.,., that is why i try to be very objective sometime with the yorubas sometimes with the igbos

but first of all you call for united southern nigeria,.,., what is the meaning of that,.,. do you believe southern nigeria will be better than northern nigeria

secondly, it is people like beaf that are destroying nigeria,.,. beaf and jonathan are connected and he is going to gain something in his term,.,, ,. if you and others do not see that,, ,, ,. it is a shame

thridly, beaf is heartless because he knows that jonathan will steal money because he has spent a year in office with no improvement not even small ,.,. and yet he supports him

i am not a tribalistic person at all,.,. if you know me real life you will see,.,.,. but my igbo brothers and beaf have made me have a different view on Southern nigeria

the article i brought out yesterday is not to tess my igbo brothers but for us to discuss issues until that bas.tard beaf came to make it a tribalistic one and others followed,.,.,.,. you see

ShangoThor:

Brother, I love all Africans, I believe Africa has been exploited by both Arabs and Europeans, and consequently Africa has had, and is having a rough ride.

1. Black Africans first and the Allegiance to Africa is of paramount importance.
2. Alien religions do not take priority to the Welfare of Black Africans.
3. The Nation State we find ourselves in are more important than the foreign religions we have adopted.
4. Zero tolerance for ethnic or religious bigotry.

If we agree on these things above then all we have to concentrate on is fixing our State so it works for all without prejudice

alj harem:

i agree with 1 and 4 but 2, 3 NO

because i am a muslim does not mean i can not co-exist with christians or because you u are christian does not mean you can not co-exist with muslims,.,.,., it all has to do with self control and mutual respect

look at lagos today,.,. christians and muslims are living side by side

go to kwara no conflict

but other places like jos,.,. there is conflict

now the question we have to ask ourselves is how are the lagosians doing it that the same principle can not be applied in nigeria as a whole.

i am a muslim and i am not a radiclist or an extremist i love christians and muslims alike,.,.,. but the same can not be said of christians mostly in SE and SS

you see

2. Alien religions do not take priority to the Welfare of Black Africans.
3. The Nation State we find ourselves in are more important than the foreign religions we have adopted.

Beaf:


In other words, religion is more important than the welfare of his fellow man and is considered above the state. A very dangerous and eye opening view; it is easy to see why there will be no Egypt style revolution in the North.

Beaf:

^
If my argument was with alj harem alone, I'd have won resoundingly. The thing of note though is, sadly harems type form the majority in the North; there is an educated and progressive group, but they are stifled and voiceless.

These are your only points harem disagrees with:

In other words, religion is more important than the welfare of his fellow man and is considered above the state. A very dangerous and eye opening view; it is easy to see why there will be no Egypt style revolution in the North.

ShangoThor:

Precisely Beaf, and this is the most dangerous majority view that prevails in the Northern part of the country. That is why I carefully wrote my points. I pray that Southerners will wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. The ethnic skirmishes in Southern Nigeria are NOTHING compared to the threat from the North, and this is precisely why the moderate Muslims will always capitulate to the radicals in Northern Nigeria, because solidarity behind their religion is more important than any thing else.

alj harem:

you see yourself and you call yourself educated

i said we can co-exist

do i have to put my religion aside because of africa

i believe Allah is more important than any africa,.,. FACT

so why should i put a white man's word (africa) above God

tell me

you and beaf are unbelievable

alj harem:

you basta.rd shut up