mankan2k7:


Two weeks strike strike money should be calculated and deducted from resident doctor salaries. Invariably, each will be paid half of their salaries.
Who refer the dispute to ADR? perhaps u don't know it was government them.
Johesu is a formidable union back by law, ordinary association like NMA went on strike without raising dust.
The agitations of Johesu members are just example is adjustment of their conhess as done for doctors since 2014.
These people must progress in their chosen careers.
Johesu are easy people else since their last strike in 2018, they ought to have call for another strike to implement the ADR resolutions.

mdcn act recognizes nma. nard is an affiliate of nma. johesu went for adr.

why do u think nard call off strike? threat of no work no pay. read national health bill 2014 careful on power of minister to ensure smooth running of health service.
you can progress in your careers as it being done in saner society, not Nigeria version of progress in careers.

conhess adjustment. government signed mou on relativity with doctors in 2014 after 30 years of stopping it by military regime. any adjustment of conhess means automatic adjustment of conmess, so government is being careful.

Racoon:
NMA/NARD versus JOHESU.The health sector dichotomy fight is back again.Meanwhile, the govt does not cares or gives a hoot.

A country where history, laws ,justice and agreements are not taken seriously will definitely find it difficult to make steady progress as a people.

ridwanlawal:
We will go back to our Herbs. Afterall if one road block na to find another alternative

Well regulated herbs is even better.

joyandfaith:


mdcn act recognizes nma. nard is an affiliate of nma. johesu went for adr.

why do u think nard call off strike? threat of no work no pay. read national health bill 2014 careful on power of minister to ensure smooth running of health service.
you can progress in your careers as it being done in saner society, not Nigeria version of progress in careers.

conhess adjustment. government signed mou on relativity with doctors in 2014 after 30 years of stopping it by military regime. any adjustment of conhess means automatic adjustment of conmess, so government is being careful.

Government signed mou on relativity with doctors in 2014??


So what happened to the relativity put in place at the debut of CONMESS and CONHESS under President Yar'adua and Prof Babatunde Osotimehin (Minister of Health then) (may their gentle soul rest in peace)


Injustice does not stand the test of time.

JB4life:



Government signed mou on relativity with doctors in 2014??


So what happened to the relativity put in place at the debut of CONMESS and CONHESS under President Yar'adua and Prof Babatunde Osotimehin (Minister of Health then) (may their gentle soul rest in peace)


Injustice does not stand the test of time.

conmess was signed in 2009 first. few months later, johesu went ahead to demand for conhess. then there was no relativity. try to read history of relativity in public health service. even nicn ruled against johesu on relativity. relativity is about level for level salary scale. in 2014, fg agreed with nma on relativity, mou signed, circular issued.

JB4life:




Injustice does not stand the test of time.

you cannot distort the truth forever.

These health workers have serious mental problems. The government have proven time without number that they are useless. Why then will you be calling off the strike when your demands have not been met?

Anyone against their strike is a hopeless idiot. Are they not human beings with responsibility? Will they be given fuel at the filling station for free? Will any of you give them food stuffs at your shop for free?

When will our health sector get a break. The strike shouldn't stop you from having access to a doctor. Get free 30 mins consultation with a doctor

http://on.fcmb.com/health-advisory27

There are just two things JOHESU is requesting
1) Pay it members COVID-19 Hazard allowance
2)Pay it members April/May salaries withheld since 2018. Others are just addition.

Odunolumide:
I know the government is bleeped up and these health workers are fighting for their right[b] but why can't all be in unison [/b]with themselves and strike at once. When one body strike let others join so that when the government negotiate ,they will negotiate together . Just imagine,after last week's negotiation with a group another health group wants to strike.
When someone is fighting a battle on multiple fronts the person will sure surely lose lots of wars.

Cos the health sector is made up of different professions with different problems and interests.

The government should find a way to prevent this strike meanwhile you can still access quality healthcare services from the comfort on your home or offices on FCMB health advisory platform. Follow the link for more.

johnjay4u2u:


okay
Teach me.
List them.

I am a Physiotherapist and I make use of ward coat and Stethoscope,you not knowing this shows how ignorant we all are about other professions in health sector....we have a long way to go

joyandfaith:



list other professionals in health sector that can use ward coat and stethoscope. there are five main professions in health sector- medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, nursing and allied health professionals. other professionals are either allied to medicine, dentistry, pharmacy or nursing.

See Ignorance
Have you heard of Physiotherapy before?
I am a Physiotherapist I make use of a ward coat and Stethoscope and I am not allied to any of those four, I Assess, Reach a Physiotherapy diagnosis, manage/treat and Discharge my patients

joyandfaith:


I think you get the point now. if mdcn regulates medicine and surgery properly we would not be at this level. we would be talking about advanced medical practice so that doctors can leave simple tasks for other health workers. when quacks take over medical practice, doctors will not allow other workers to take over their primary roles.in developed nations, system is tightly regulated unlike here. You cannot buy pom drugs from pharmacies without medical prescription. In US and UK, pathologists are leaders in medical laboratories, doctors are specialists in physical and rehabilitative medicine.
Again, I blame mdcn for problems in health sector.

foreign exams are very expensive. to complete uslme, be ready to spend almost 3 to 5million , plab 2 to 3 millions etc. most doctors result to menial tasks to raise funds for those exams especially if they are from financially disadvantaged families

In Physical and Rehabilitative medicine yes the head are Doctors but they are Doctor of Physiotherapy (DPT) not MBBS and they use same 6 years as medical Doctors in the university.....DPT is already starting in Nigeria sha, things will soon be orderly in dz Country

anastasius:

Why isn't there confusion in UK, USA etc? Is it inferiority ir superiority complex worrying you Nigerians. And many of you Nigerians doctors end up not practicing in abroad, you switch ober to Physician Assistant or Nursing due to how difficult it is to break into the practice. Thank God for UK that made it easy for you guys. But imagine if those abroad countries treated other health workers badly, and made it unattractive, would you people be proud to switch when licensing as a doctor becomes difficult?
Pride and superiority complex is you guys problem. In USA, most of what you guys do in Nigeria is what others health care do. Med Doctors take on advanced roles unlike there in Nigeria. So I understand why you people try to hijack procedures. What's the business of an American doctor with IV line setting when there are numerous roles to occupy? What's the business of a doctor in taking delivery when there are other advanced obstetrical procedures to do? What's the business of a doctor with performing lab tests when there are advanced pathological lab procedures to do? But there, you people fight midwives, fight lab Sciences etc.

Pls stop trying to sound smart, the harder you try, the more dumb you sound. Like are you for real As in a doctor shouldn't set IV lines Take delivery
Pls if you haven't practiced anywhere else but your village shift... The elites you're trying to impress know what it is... Shift to your village people

dumodust:

Pls stop trying to sound smart, the harder you try, the more dumb you sound. Like are you for real As in a doctor shouldn't set IV lines Take delivery
Pls if you haven't practiced anywhere else but your village shift... The elites you're trying to impress know what it is... Shift to your village people

Typical Nigerian. Go get your mates. Ain't one.
I'm not even in your shithole, so you don't have the pedigree to quote me.

olutop:

See Ignorance
Have you heard of Physiotherapy before?
I am a Physiotherapist I make use of a ward coat and Stethoscope and I am not allied to any of those four, I Assess, Reach a Physiotherapy diagnosis, manage/treat and Discharge my patients

physiotherapy is an allied health profession. yes, they use stethoscope. are stethoscope and ward coat symbols of johesu? list other professions in johesu that use stethoscope. I just want to educate you.

olutop:

In Physical and Rehabilitative medicine yes the head are Doctors but they are Doctor of Physiotherapy (DPT) not MBBS and they use same 6 years as medical Doctors in the university.....DPT is already starting in Nigeria sha, things will soon be orderly in dz Country

physical and rehabilitative medicine is a medical speciality. mbbs holders specialize on that not physical therapist.

Physical medicine and rehabilitation, also known as physiatry, is a branch of medicine that aims to enhance and restore functional ability and quality of life to people with physical impairments or disabilities. This can include conditions such as spinal cord injuries, brain injuries, strokes, as well as pain or disability due to muscle, ligament or nerve damage.]A physician having completed training in this field may be referred to as a physiatrist.


https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/overview-of-physical-medicine-and-rehabilitation

https://www.aapmr.org/career-center/medical-student-resources/a-medical-students-guide-to-pm-r/what-is-the-difference-between-physical-therapy-and-physiatry

rotadeco27:

Ur medical Excellency sir.

..my brother this your statement looks too familiar
I use that word a lot among friends and colleagues
I greet you Sir

iLegendd:
Cajal, everything has always been in a mess in Nigeria. It just got messier since 2015. That's what I'm trying to say.

..alright brother

THE PRESIDENT, PHARMACEUTICAL SOCIETY OF NIGERIA,

PHARMACY HOUSE, 32 FARAMOBI AJIKE STREET,

ANTHONY VILLAGE,

LAGOS.

Dear Sir,

CLINICAL ALLIED HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, NANNM, NUAHP MEMBERSHIP AND CONHESS: THE NEED FOR A NEW DAWN.

I am writing to call for a rebirth in the association, remuneration and operations of all the clinical allied health professionals in the Nigerian health sector. This clarion call became of great significance sequel to the untoward circumstances that have been bedeviling the clinical allied health professionals, especially those employed at the three tiers of government.



It is no longer news that the National Union of Allied Health Professionals (NUAHP) which is the umbrella union for the various clinical allied health professional associations in Nigeria except that of the nurses, also comprises the non-clinical health professional associations. The union has been of some obvious benefits to the various associations, the most significant of which includes but is not limited to the strength in the number of member associations and the unity in diversity of having different member associations.

On the other side of the coin Sir, you will agree with me that the non-membership of the NUAHP by the National Association of Nigerian Nurses and Midwives (NANNM) has remained a significant challenge to both the NUAHP and the NANNM with respect to some past and present events. The separation between the NUAHP and the NANNM has on different occasions had some significant negative impact on the actions and, of course, the results of some unilateral decisions taken by each of the NANNM and the NUAHP at different times. There were both direct and indirect unwanted effects of those actions and decisions on the activities and welfare of the general allied health workers. The results of embarking on industrial actions by one group independent of the other group readily comes to mind in this instance.

However, the realities of today have become different in varying respects from the circumstances that led to the formation and sustenance of the NUAHP. Hence, the benefits and to a larger extent the needs for belonging to the NUAHP by the clinical health professionals can no longer be said, in all honesty, to be in tandem with these realities in the Nigerian health sector.

Also, the gap between the clinical and the non-clinical members of the NUAHP with respect to ideals, goals and transformation is not decreasing in the real sense of it. On the contrary, the gap between the various clinical health professional members of the NUAHP, the NANNM and the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) is in reality markedly on a continuous decrease, especially with respect to clinical practice. As a result, the need for a re-alignment of the existing inter-professional structure between the various clinical allied health professional associations cannot be more sacrosanct than it is now. There will be greater benefits to the interests of both the clinical members of the NUAHP and those of the NANNM if a new body that will consist of the clinical allied health professionals only is formed.

The entry-level positions into the salary grade system and by implication, to an extent, the salaries of civil servants including those on the CONHESS and the CONMESS are supposed to reflect the number of years spent in acquiring formal education up to first degree level with exceptions in some instances such as the possession of additional professional certifications like COREN for the engineers, ICAN and/or ACCA for the accountants etc. The singular adjustment of the CONMESS by the federal ministry of health under the headship of the former minister for health, Professor Onyebuchi Chukwu, in 2014 altered the hitherto existing balance between the number of years spent in school and the salary earned at entry-level positions in between the health workers on the CONHESS and those on the CONMESS.

NANNM

The non-inclusion of the CONHESS in the adjustment done for the CONMESS resulted in an impasse that has lasted till today. Although the NUAHP under the umbrella of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU) used both negotiation and coercive measures, at different times, while trying to have the CONHESS adjusted with the same parameters used forthe CONMESS adjustment, the efforts, however, did not yield the desired results. It can be understood that adjusting the CONHESS would have led to a “direct” increase in salaries for all workers in the health sector on the CONHESS which could have become counterproductive for the government considering the fact that there are workers who do exactly the same type of jobs in the health sector that other workers with the same qualifications do in some other sectors for the same federal government. This might have contributed to the reasons why the wishes of the health workers were not granted. If this is considered, the CONHESS, in essence, becomes an encumbrance to the progress of the clinical allied health professionals. It is only by having a salary structure that is solely for the clinical allied health professionals that can easily erase the possibility of having a repeat of the probable scenario described here.

The clinical health professionals have been clamouring for remuneration based on job evaluation for a long time. If there is a re-alignment of professional associations amongst the clinical members of the NUAHP and the NANNM resulting in the conglomeration of all the various clinical allied health professional associations, that “body” can then be used as the pedestal to call for a specific salary structure for the clinical allied health professionals. Other Issues relating to remuneration for clinical services rendered by all the clinical allied health professionals can also be raised using a unified clinical front. The current state of the remuneration of nurses in relation to other clinical health professionals in Nigeria compared to what obtains in the western world readily comes to mind at this juncture sir.

A re-alignment of the clinical allied health professional associations will bring some positively refreshed dynamics into the relationship between the Nigerian Medical Association and the clinical allied health professionals that has been at its lowest ebb for some years now. Everyone in the health sector knows that inter-professional association harmony is needed for peace to reign in the sector.

Sir, the call for a new body comprising only members of the various clinical allied health professions cannot have been made at a better time considering the various transformations that are sweeping across the health sector, especially for the clinical allied health professions. Examples of the transformations that are taking place are the changing academic curriculums and specialisations that have remarkably evolved and are still evolving to meet today’s realities in the clinical professions. The doctors of optometry (DO), pharmacy (PharmD) and physiotherapy (DPT) are already on ground and rolling. Others might be on their way. The doctorate programmes have not just come with change in curriculums and names but have also come with increased durations of learning.

It is worthy of note that if the curriculums are changing and the number of years spent in school to acquire the evolving qualifications are also increasing, that would directly result in the need for pertinent reviews of the various entry-level positions into the salary grade structures. That, actually, should have been completed by now because some fellows already possess the new qualifications from either within or outside Nigeria and have commenced practising in the system with the acquired skills.

It is obvious that the challenges of the clinical allied health professionals are not limited to being members of the NUAHP and being on the CONHESS. As well, the formation of a clinical allied health professional body and having a specified salary structure for the clinical allied health professionals will not bring an end to the prevailing challenges. However, achieving these feats will take the clinical allied health professionals light years ahead of their current state. Sir, the process of achieving these feats can receive a huge fillip with a single step –your participation. This brings to the fore the motive for reaching out to you.

In the light of the foregoing, I would humbly request you to use your wealth of experience and influence in matters of the Nigerian health sector in helping to bring a resounding rebirth to the status of all the clinical allied health professionals in this nation. In the end, if this is the case, there will surely be the dawn of a new era for the clinical allied health professionals in Nigeria.

On account of today’s May day celebrations sir, I wish you happy workers’ day! Long live clinical professionalism in Nigeria!

Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

Respectfully yours,

CC: ASSOCIATION OF CLINICAL AND ACADEMIC PHYSIOTHERAPISTS OF NIGERIA (ACAPN)

FELIX FANIRAN (PAST PRESIDENT, NUAHP)

MEDICAL REHABILITATION THERAPISTS BOARD OF NIGERIA (MRTBN)

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIA NURSES AND MIDWIVES (NANNM)

NIGERIAN SOCIETY OF PHYSIOTHERAPY (NSP)

NURSING AND MIDWIFERY COUNCIL OF NIGERIA (NMCN)

PHARMACISTS COUNCIL OF NIGERIA (PCN)


https://www.nursingworldnigeria.com/2020/06/clinical-allied-health-professionals-nannm-nuahp-membership-and-conhess-the-need-for-a-new-dawn

anastasius:

Typical Nigerian. Go get your mates. Ain't one.
I'm not even in your shithole, so you don't have the pedigree to quote me.

Typical answer... Your IQ drops further. And nobody's in the shit or ass hole you're in.
Brag online but ants in real life

olutop:

See Ignorance
Have you heard of Physiotherapy before?
I am a Physiotherapist I make use of a ward coat and Stethoscope and I am not allied to any of those four, I Assess, Reach a Physiotherapy diagnosis, manage/treat and Discharge my patients

I'm a student of physiotherapy. I would love to ask you some questions sir!

College100:

I'm a student of physiotherapy. I would love to ask you some questions sir!

That's nice, in which school if I may ask and you are free to ask your questions...

olutop:

That's nice, in which school if I may ask and you are free to ask your questions...

Is there any way I can contact you?