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Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by cap28: 1:27pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
DeeJay20: sorry bros, i just get frustrated with the way some people on here reason. Since when has America - an empire been concerned about such "trivial" things like humanitarianism? There are countless incidents of genocide that have occurred around the world in which america REFUSED to get invovled in simply because there was no economic gain to be made - Rwanda springs to mind, it became almost impossible to get america to even agree to go along with a UN resolution which would enable the deployment of troops in order to stop the genocide. Consider this excerpt from a british mainstream newspaper: President Bill Clinton's administration knew Rwanda was being engulfed by genocide in April 1994 but buried the information to justify its inaction, according to classified documents made available for the first time. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/mar/31/usa.rwanda Contrast the way america behaved with regard to a real humanitarian catastrophe with the way they are acting in the case of an unsubstantiated one. Could they move any faster? I didnt know it was possible to move so quickly in order to impose sanctions or intervene militarily. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by cap28: 1:54pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
DeeJay, when you get a chance listen to american historian, webster tarpley's analysis of what's happening in Libya: http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by johnie: 6:14pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Hilary Clinton at the UN has just announced USD10m humanitarian aid through USAID and dispatch of aid workers to the Tunisian and Egyptian borders of Libya. US is also proposing a no fly zone over Libya. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Libyans are calling for a No Fly Zone so Ghaddafi does not go back to bombing them again by air. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 6:50pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
The US and Britain said on Monday they were looking at establishing a “no-fly” zone across Libya, amid signs that Nato nations were weighing all military options in the crisis. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 8:50pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
I see this degenerating and turning a lot worse than anyone could anticipate. This move could rally Islamic nations behind Ghadaffi. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by jumobi1(m): 8:50pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Seems the only way the Libyan revolt will succeed with limited bloodshed is if the US truly goes in to help |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Cougar2: 8:52pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
gaddafi hasn't covered himself in glory. i sanction a foreign invasion. any leader who deliberately launches death squad on his own people needs to be taught a lesson. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 8:59pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
*Cougar*: Foreign Invasion will likely cause more chaos for Libyans than Ghadaffi, as the country is easily divided along ethnic lines. Asides that, it's better for countries such as Egypt to take the lead than the US. From all indications, it looks as though the US's primary interest could be securing the oil fields located in Libya and most people are likely to think along this line as opposed to actually helping Libyans get rid of a dictator. Time to go long on oil futures. . a lot of money could be made! |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by jumobi1(m): 9:01pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Honestly though, why would any country help without getting anything in return? |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Cougar2: 9:03pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
violent: at least such chaos wouldn't leave 300 civilians dead in one night.
gadaffi brought this on himself. united states didn't advise him to kill his own people. oil fields or no oil fields, i support foreign invasion. tunisia and egypt have gone through this phase, why didn't united states show interest then? bahrain nko? when david cameron and obama were silent about this crisis, libyans blamed them for their non-challant attitude. now they wanna make the move and we are here saying they want to do so because of the oil fields! |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Sunofgod(m): 9:04pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
The US already has equipment and personel on route. Its not a question of if - but a question of when. Their primary goal is the oil - and their secondary goal is Gadaffi. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 9:29pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
jumobi1: because when it is called ''help'' you shouldn't be expecting to get anything in return! |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Kobojunkie: 9:31pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
violent: Tell me you help your workers without expecting something in return. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Meddler(f): 9:41pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Really an American Invasion. Please someone should tell me how that will go down with the American ppl. C'mon, America is just recovering from one of the worst economic crisis and you think the Republicans will agree to bring out a dime to support invasion? The speed at which it will be voted down will be faster that the speed of light. Oh America will be going in but not now. Libya still has oil after all. We will just have to wait and see how this plays out. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 9:48pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Kobojunkie: If you are expecting something in return, then you are rendering a service, quite a different thing from helping out i think. when david cameron and obama were silent about this crisis, libyans blamed them for their non-challant attitude. now they wanna make the move and we are here saying they want to do so because of the oil fields! From the look of things, it appears so. Libya produces one of the finest crude in the world and the EU is dependent on more than 80 per cent of Libyan crude, we can say the same for the US as well, given that the demands for oil continues to surpass it's supply. A chaos in Libya in turn will be followed by a hike in the prices of oil as evident in previous weeks. If this situation continues, or worse still, if Gadaffhi makes good on his threat of sabotaging Libyan oil facilities, it's likely to degenerate to another global downtown, which, trust me, is the last thing that US or UK would hope for at the moment. Of course, I am not ruling out the fact that it's also in the interest of the entire world that evil be stamped out of Libya, the question is, IS this enough for the Americans and the EU to put billions in military spending and the lives of hundreds of fine soldiers at stake for this? when in the end, all they are likely to get back is a disgruntled thanks from Libyans and a pack of a million haters?----of course, the answer lie somewhere else, the oil! |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Sunofgod(m): 9:51pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
A regional war in the middle east would be beneficial to the west. More so to America - it will boost their economy through the 'Military Industrial Complex' They will happily sell arms to all sides - David Cameron has actually went with arms dealers to the middle east last week taking 'orders'. Civil War followed by a Regional War and then finally onto World War - Thats what America needs and will get. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 9:51pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Meddler: are you kidding? Republicans are fighters by nature, if an American had died from one of Ghadaffi's shells, Republicans would be calling for Obama's head on a plastic plate. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by violent(m): 9:56pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Sun of god: This is not likely to lead to a full scale war, from all probability, there's likely to be some sort of resistance from the Chinese and Russians on this, which is likely to curb the extent of the invasion. Also, i believe rules of engagement is likely to be stringent to ensure that civilians causalities are greatly minimized. The US and the NATO are likely to be saving some military shells for the big games----Revolution in Saudi, Revolution in Iran, and a North Korean attack on South, these are events likely to lead to a full scale war. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Sunofgod(m): 10:02pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
From what i have seen both Russia and China voted for sanctions against Libya last week. Gadaffi has apparently armed civilian supporters with arms - therefore they can now be classed as 'Combatant's' America coined the term 'Collateral Damage' and 'Friendly Fire' - So no matter what attrocities take place they will have their 'Arsss covered'. Tunisia, Bahrain, Oman, Saudi, Algeria and Egypt are still unsettled matters. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Kobojunkie: 10:13pm On Feb 28, 2011 |
Forgive my earlier question there on helping workers --- I myself am in the middle of that and there ain't no way I am doing it for free in my situation. lol violent: Let's not confuse the one kind of help with another. Even in our daily lives, we rate the kind of help we give others. Sometimes, it is free -- other times we do it in hopes we get something in return. Maybe not immediately but we do have that in the back of our minds even as humans sometimes. |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by DeeJay20: 12:11am On Mar 01, 2011 |
cap28: Thanks Cap28, i shall listen to it, notice how the "so called protester" in Libya are called "Rebels" by the mainstream media lol, |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by DeeJay20: 12:17am On Mar 01, 2011 |
Kobojunkie: Libyans are not calling for a No-fly zone, DO U EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS Its the British that are pressing the UN for this so called "protect the citizens move" What i am yet to see is any reporters interviewing Libyans to see what they have to say, This is a Load of Crap, "A no fly zone" over libya = to UN/NATO/USA/EU FORCES Bombing anything related to the Libyan Military or Govt at will with the cover to claim it was enforcing security.!!!! IRAQ in the 1990's and Pakistan comes to mind!!! oh yes and before i forget, they dont fly plans with men inside them now the have "predator Drones" or Unmanned planes to enforce the "No Fly Zone2 if it comes into effect! is that not a bit**h, Bombing targets from the comfort of your Air-Conditoned" office on your "Computer Monitor", Classical "1984" shi***t " War Games!!!! |
Re: Should The Us Intervene In Libya? Your Views Please by Mobinga: 4:54am On Mar 01, 2011 |
Why should they? Stick your business. |
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