ggirl4real:
This is why I always say that the Christian religion and the Bible is filled with confusion

How can some Christian groups believe that homosexuality is a sin while others believe that it is not and both groups use the Bible to back up their points?

ggirl4real:
This is why I always say that the Christian religion and the Bible is filled with confusion

How can some Christian groups believe that homosexuality is a sin while others believe that it is not and both groups use the Bible to back up their points?

tobechi74:
A Christian dad and son conversation on homosexuality
A Christian dad and son conversation on homosexuality

Son: what does the Bible teach about homosexuality and masturbation.

Dad: I do not know and I do not care to know

Son: But you are a Christian

Dad: yes, A Christian who follows the teaching of Jesus. Christ alone and not the Bible.

Son; But Bible contains Jesus teaching

Dad: true. It also contains the teaching of Paul,the teaching of Moses , the teaching of Elijah and many other teaching. As a Christian, I accept the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Son: Ok, Now what did Jesus teach about masturbation and homosexuality.

Dad: Jesus never mentioned any of them literally but he showed us with illaustration how to treat those whose views are different from ours.

Child: How?

Dad: He never condemned the adultrous woman, he visited tax collectors, he dined with sinners. He showered them with love.

Son : does that mean they won’t go to hell?

Dad: would you derive Joy in Watching your loved one in hell?

Son: No I won’t

Dad: good.

Dad: sex is a way of expressing Love. There are different stages of love. The first is love directed to oneself. A child grows up loving himself.Using sexual analogy, the child derives Joy playing with his body, his genital. Jesus said Love thyself.


Son : hmm

Dad: The second is Love of similar specie.The child begins to extend the love to those of closest to him+ family, friend,tribe etc. A boy plays with a boy.A girl plays with a girl. Using sexual analogy, this is homosexual. Christ preached Love your neighbor.


Son : I see

Dad: The third stage of love is where one loves those different from oneself .Jesus said Love your enemy.your enemy is your opponent, opposite,one with a different view. Sexually, one is attracted to the gender different from him.A boy is attracted to a girl and vice-versa.

Son :

Dad: One who hates masturbators and homosexuals and love heterosexual is no different from one who loves others over himself and his peers.Such person is in a third stage of love.


Son : which is the best.

Dad: All of the above.The fourth type. The pansexual. The attraction to all . Self, male, and female. It is universal love. Agape love. Love without condition.

ggirl4real:
This is why I always say that the Christian religion and the Bible is filled with confusion

How can some Christian groups believe that homosexuality is a sin while others believe that it is not and both groups use the Bible to back up their points?

jmoore:
To the post.

Devil quoted the scriptures when he tempted Jesus Christ.

Devil is still in the business of manipulating the words of Bible to promote his evils agenda.

Jesus told the woman caught in adultery "Go and sin no more". If adultery is good, why did Jesus tell her not to commit adultery again?

Expand the list of other evil in that your list to see how ridiculous it sounds. Rapists, ritual killers, etc.


Fact: Homosexuality is a sin.

tobechi74:


The Bible was written by different persons from different culture and different life experience. Jesus warned against mixing old wine inside a new bottle ( mixing old testament teaching with his own teaching) but we did not heed to that warning . That is the beginning of confusion.As a Christian Jesus philosophy should superseded Moses philosophy.

Whenever one is certain ask WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?

tobechi74:

Jesus did not condemn the adulterers. Why do we condemn adulterers and homosexual. Hate the sin.lovevthe sinner

mariahAngel:


You're the confused one here.
Stop trying to understand what you cannot comprehend.

jmoore:


Anyone can use the Bible to back his/her points. That doesn't mean the Bible is confusion.


You the 'spectator' is confused because you don't know the truth about the Bible.

Even the Bible talked about Manipulators.

ggirl4real:


So is Jesus in support of homosexuality?

ggirl4real:


I'm I lieing that some Christians believe that homosexuality is sin while others believe otherwise?

tobechi74:


He did not condemn Homosexuality either.

ggirl4real:


So what about situations where "manipulators" back up their points with clear Bible verses?

Religion is confused jare

mariahAngel:


Let me explain this to you: Any so-called Christian who believes homosexuality is not a sin is not a Christian.
Homosexuality is not only a sin in the sight of God, it is also a sin to nature and to your body.

ggirl4real:


What about a case where the homosexual is not a Christian? Is he/she permitted to live his life provided he's not breaking the law of his country or whatever religion he belongs to?

Must everyone live according to the Bible manual eventhough they are not Christians?

jmoore:


Then stick to human evolution that teaches Apes are your cousins.


No time for debate/argument.

mariahAngel:


Not if homosexuality is against the laws of the the land. He/she can't.

jmoore:


Stop repeating yourself. Why did you not complete the whole verse? Did Jesus tell her to continue adultery or stop?


Stop condemning rapists, ritual killers, scammers and corrupt politicians.

Smh

tobechi74:


He did not condemn Homosexuality either.

tobechi74:


Adultery is different. An adulterer breaks the bond not to sleep with another beside his wife. Jesus advice is to keep to our word.low trust Let your yes be yes and no be no. So Adultery is a sin. However, in a case of open relationship, there is no sin.

It is different from sexual orientation. Do not equate it with ritual killing

ggirl4real:


I don't believe in evolution nor the Bible creation story

I just choose to believe in what I see daily and I'm sure I'm not breaking any law in the constitution jare

However, religion is confused especially Christianity because different churches have different beliefs and doctrines all backed up by the Bible. No unity at all.

Pentecostals believe Catholic, Jehovah Witnesses and white garment churches are not true Christians and will not make heaven

Jehovah Witnesses believe they are the only true Christians

Deeper Life believes they are the best

...and the discrimination continues

All of them support their doctrine and beliefs from the same Bible

Is this how they'll be able to convert unbelievers to Christ?

jmoore:


Some of your fellow atheists believe that Apes are their cousins. Why do you not believe them too?

See your own confusion that you have overlooked while pointing at others confusion that doesn't really exist.


Christianity is your problem but you spend most of your time in the religious section of nairaland.

ggirl4real:


Oga, I am not an Atheist because I cannot prove that God does not exist

At the same time, I am not a Christian because I cannot prove that God exist

As for spending time in RELIGIOUS section, it is RELIGIOUS section, not Christians section. Even if it were to be Christian section, this is social media now.

I won't come to church to challenge Pastors but when you bring religious matters online (with the aim of getting new converts), I'll have to ask questions when I'm confused now.

jmoore:



You are not an atheist?
Chai!!

So Christianity is your major problem?

Obviously you love death sentence by the Muslims.

ggirl4real:


I leave in South South, Nigeria

Although I read about the extremism of the Muslims, I have never had any relationship with them before

However, from what I read online, the Muslims are worst

Religion is supposed to solve problems but in Nigeria, that is not the case.

Both Christianity and Islam have failed

What I can only advise is that Christians like you should focus more on convincing your fellow believers to live the life of Christ and stop tarnishing the image of the once respected religion.

Unbelievers are not the problem here but Christians who are not even practicing what they preach.

jmoore:


So you know exactly the model a Christian should follow?

You were confused before but not confused now.

Dad: Jesus never mentioned any of them literally but he showed us with illaustration how to treat those whose views are different from ours.

ggirl4real:
This is why I always say that the Christian religion and the Bible is filled with confusion

How can some Christian groups believe that homosexuality is a sin while others believe that it is not and both groups use the Bible to back up their points?