Joagbaje:

You don't need to start insulting. You know I'm not lying. You dont have right to csll me liar until you do proper investigation.

Joagbaje:

I told you lied to me about what she said. You called her again, and later told me that she is saying something else.  You also spoke with her brother and he confirmed her miraculous healing that day . His number is here for anyone to call 08039377331 CHIMA by name.

Joagbaje:

The Kenyan 28 was healed at the healing school. I called her myself,to rebuke her to cooprate with those who are asking her questions. God doesn't need liars and actors to testify for him. It's a sin. But she confirmed to me she's really in Kenya and she's not a CEC member. I knew from her accent she's not Nigerian.

I thought you saud you would visit her wedding in Kenya . I was waiting for you to confirm your findings.

nuclearboy:

^^^ I told you before that you don't know the people you argue against and where we all are coming from. Do not fool yourself - miracles happen but they come at God's time, in God's way. Many of us too have seen demons flee, seen healing and restoration and had miraculous encounters. But they do not come at our behest and they are the smallest part of Christianity. Do you know why?

The new birth is enough miracle and is the only true miracle because it is the only one that will last. Restored eyesight or limbs are transient because you can lose them again and will in fact lose them when you die. Only the new birth follows you into eternity. Who gets new birth has ALL that is compulsory. If they have further need of a miracle and God wills it, they will get it without stage-managing. Which is mainly what we say about the "prosperity gospel":people are fighting for the temporal rather than the permanent.

If what you have taken away from all our writings here is that we believe miracles do not happen, then your English is worse than terrible. What we believe is that most "miracles" are staged because the proponents want to "help" the faith of others and make themselves look good. This has NO place in true Christianity - would Jesus lie to further His cause?

That is not the Spirit of Christ.

nuclearboy:

You KNOW SirJohn did not lie about his personal experience in the healing school. You KNOW!

petres_007:

Can I please have the link to this thread?

mba emeka:

I heard about nairaland in 2007. i didnt join initially, i just visited ,read some posts learnt from some of them and moved on. But daily i kept being drawn to it-the discussions, topics, arguments etc. i felt it was an oppurtunity to reach many, teach many and help many understand the true essence of christianity, of the new birth, of the power available to the body of christ- the power of the true and undiluted gospel of Jesus christ. i read posts from donnie and the likes and i was inspired. but when i saw posts of TayoD, Tudor and recently (actually 3yrs ago) Sirjohn. i wept and grieved in my spirit because i couldnt understand that such ignorance existed in the world today.

Time has gone by and nothing has changed but i have. i know when to discuss, whom to discuss with and how to discuss with whom i want to discuss with. its not about the ignorance they permeate in their posts (as regards sirjohn and one nuclearboy) its more about the spirit behind their posts. They represent billiousness, opprobium, deceit, envy,umbrage and the list continues. They have no respect for persons, for ideas, for authorities, for the word himself! they may come of to you as grammar flowing individuals who desire that the truth be told all the time but when you test the character of their posts you will see that, that character that describes God most is missing- LOVE!

their posts are devoid of love, truth and faith! Dont take them serious. they may say they believe in God and miracles but when have they ever believed? If they have ever stretched forth their hands to heal the sick it would never be difficult to believe another mans testimony. Sirjohn even claimed he once used to "slay people under the anointing" now he says those things are fictitious. It is not an experience that took him away from us, it was God himself that pruned us and removed him. He may have started out as a member of the Body of Christ but he has veered of already. We pray that as Satan planned to sift Peter as Wheat but Jesus' prayer of intercession rescued him so would our prayer of intercession rescue him before its too late. Then when he is saved he can also save many others.

Joagbaje thank you for being a consistent and ever fervent soul winner and teacher. Your work here is commendable. As the scriptures say "God is not unrighteous to forget your labour of love" he would keep rewarding you openly.

Joagbaje:

Nuclearboy,
You are one of the people that nominated me and voted for me. I didnt ask for it . I dey on my own jeje .Of what benefit Is this poster of the year to me by the way? Does it win more souls into Gods kingdom. The things I cherish are things that have eternal value and not a title.  Whoever want the title should take it GBAM!  . It's of no value to me. I don't need a vote to know the impact my posts Have made. On NL. my e mail Is there and I receive mails and chats from many many people who have been touched by truth posted.

SirJohn:

@mba emeka
so what dont you understand about my thread? Is it the fact that people were put in wheelchairs and made to look crippled or that Chris never ministers to genuine cases of disability? Fault my story if you can. . .but alas you cant because like Joagbaje you've never been in that school, I have!

Joagbaje:

I have attended some sessions . But not the classes but at he same time , I have people I sent to healing school and the came back healed , except one woman who's symptoms returned. And there is explanation for that. If you want truth as real people. I know 2 people who have been married for years without a child . They went to healing school and the wives took in same month. You want to find the truth ? Let's start from them if you're ready, check the date of their marriage certificate . N
Interview them . Go through medical report. If you are ready let me know. I will get their contact. One of them have been married for about 15 years without a child. When pastor chrisay hands on them the miracle started.

newmi:

@SirJohn
No discredit to you as an individual, but experiences however they may have played out are no bases for judging the truth about pastory Chris and CE. The word of God is the basis for the judging and we have subjected it to the scrutiny of the word of God and prove positive the result speak for themselves.
I personally got healed of deafness on my left ear in 2006 just by putting the word of God that pastor Chris preaches and teaches to work. you see its terrible to be deaf.

mabell:

I have a testimony to share, during my final high school days, i came back from school one day and just observed that i was blinking too much. I couldn't stare at something for a long time, it was like i had stones in my eyes
As a result of this my eyes were always wet cos i couldn't leave them open for a long time and of course it was hurting and it persisted
I had attended Christ Embassy just during their carol service and didn't know much about the church
One day, i was sitting alone in the living room when Pastor Chris' program came on air, i watched him pray for people over the screen to their homes and just about when he was about to round up, he said there is a young girl watching me that has problems keeping her eyes open for a while, that caught my attention and he said the anointing of the Lord is upon you now and you are healed. I taught it was a joke and like play like play, i felt this soothing sensation in my eyes with water pouring down my cheeks and that was how it ended.
Oh what joy
I can vividly remember him saying Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever

So the healing ministry of Pastor Chris AND CHRIST EMBASSY did not start toady and will not end today

newmi:

@SirJohn
No discredit to you as an individual, but experiences however they may have played out are no bases for judging the truth about pastory Chris and CE. The word of God is the basis for the judging and we have subjected it to the scrutiny of the word of God and prove positive the result speak for themselves.
I personally got healed of deafness on my left ear in 2006 just by putting the word of God that pastor Chris preaches and teaches to work. you see its terrible to be deaf.

SirJohn:

I ask Joagbaje to provide evidence of his so called blind cases and all of a sudden Mabell and newmi became blind and deaf for Jesus 
clowns! ! !