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Re: Science Confirms The Bible by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:27pm On Apr 15, 2013 |
Concerning Bible Science : the sun orbits the earth, the earth has 4 corners, has a foundation and does not move, thinking with your heart. Concerning Bible science, see the following verses: •The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, and haste to his place where he arose. Eccl. 1:5 •And when the sun was going down. Genesis 15:12 •And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down. Genesis 15:17 •The sun was risen upon the earth. Genesis 19:23 •his hands were steady until the going down of the sun. Exodus 17:11-12 1:5 •The foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; upon them he has set the world.1 Sam 2:8 •He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Psalm 104:5 •…. dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. Isaiah 11:12 •Here we see the Son of God {Jesus} failing basic biology: He doesn’t know what the heart is for. MT 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. MT 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies • The bible is trying to tell us that insects have four legs: {all insects have 6 legs} There are, however, some winged creatures that WALK ON ALL FOURS that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper. But all other winged creatures that have FOUR LEGS you are to detest. Leviticus 11:21-23 • The bible tells us that bats are not mammals but are instead birds : These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat,” Leviticus 11:13-19 •The bible tries to convince us that the moist trail that we see behind a snail/slug is because it is melting away as it travels along: Like a slug melting away as it moves along, like a still born child,may they not see the sun. Psalm 58:8 •God inspired the men who wrote the bible to tell us that rabbits chew their cuds The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; itis unclean for you. Leviticus 11:6 This is the simple science failure in the bible I can get for ya |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:03pm On Apr 16, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Concerning Bible Science : If you took time to peruse past pages on this thread you would have found out that most if not all of your objections have been answered. For clues check pages 1-7. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:06pm On Apr 16, 2013 |
ooman: If you had read the earlie pages of this thread you wouldn't be asking those old and tired questions. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:47pm On Apr 16, 2013 |
Eben 2: @OLAADEGBU, You are quite right brother, it's only prayer that can break the yoke that is blinding their eyes. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:55am On Apr 17, 2013 |
toba: Good point. That is the MO that they use when they are losing the plot. toba: It is obvious that most atheists especially the "evangelical" ones are the most illogical, irrational, unreasonable and unscientific to folks to argue with. toba: They have none except to make their viewers to commit intellectual harakiri. toba: Their apostle is Richard Dawkins, they follow him like a zombie. toba: The moment they become rational is the time they will admit their folly. toba: If their is anything like atheists they are fast becoming extinct. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:00am On Apr 17, 2013 |
frosbel: ^ These were the days before atheists converted frosbel from believing in the existence of the punishment in hell. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:22am On Apr 17, 2013 |
frosbel: To think that frosbel used to believe this is mind boggling. We all know what he believes now. Thanks to the evangelical atheists. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by Emusan(m): 11:47am On Apr 17, 2013 |
@ OLAADEGBU, well done. I believe atheists know the truth but decided streched it just because devil has blindfolded their mind. II Cor 4:4 says "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them". Even Bible prayed for them so that they can see the light. I would like to quote Stephen Hawking here in one of his book. Stephen Hawking: "Existence [prior to the Big b.ang] can be ignored because it would have no observational consequences. One may say that time had a beginning at the big b.ang, in the sense that earlier times simply would not be defined...One could still imagine that God created the universe at the instant of the big b.ang, or even afterwards in just such a way as to make it look as though there had been a big b.ang, but it would be meaningless to suppose that it was created before the big b.ang. An expanding universe does not preclude a creator...". |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:45pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
Emusan: Stretching the truth will come back to bite them as they have no alternative. Let's continue to pray that the Lord will shine the light of the glorious gospel into the heart until the daystar appears. We might start to you use their evolutionary terms for something else since it has now become untenable.
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Re: Science Confirms The Bible by ooman(m): 2:08pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
^^^two dumb iddiots deluding each other |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:23pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
ooman: I trust you to be left with the use of ad hominems when you cannot come up with any reasonable, rational, logical or scientific argument. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:41pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^^ Gone are the days when frosbel was still with it when he dare not try to "disprove God's words out of sheer ignorance". Which is the exact thing he now occupies his time with. This should teach believers to watch and pray lest we be led into captivity by the devil who is going about looking for those careless believers to devour. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by ooman(m): 3:06pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: another dumb reply |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:07pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: This is a lesson for all true believers. He that thinks he stands should take heed lest what has befallen frosbel befalls you. As he is today singing another song.
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Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:26pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
ooman: Guess who is dumb here. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:46pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: Classic! |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:39am On Apr 18, 2013 |
This is why many students that go to higher institutions turn out to be blind, deaf and dumb. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by Emusan(m): 11:04am On Apr 18, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: ROM=Heart component of a computer. PROCESSOR=Brain component of a computer. An assignment for you, which one control each other? To understand Bible is not by carnal mind but by spiritual mind which some scientist failed to implore in their research. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:52am On Apr 19, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: Hi Iredia, can we resume this conversation? |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:52am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Creation and the Sciences April 26, 2013 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27) The first chapter of Genesis is the foundational chapter of the Bible and, therefore, of all true science. It is the great creation chapter, outlining the events of that first week of time when "the heavens and the earth were finished, and. . . . God ended his work which he had made" (Genesis 2:1-2). Despite the evolutionists, God is not creating or making anything in the world today (except for special miracles as recorded in Scripture) because all His work was finished in that primeval week. He is now engaged in the work of conserving, or saving, what He first created. There are only three acts of special creation--that is, creation out of nothing except God's omnipotent word--recorded in this chapter. His other works were those of "making" or "forming" the created entities into complex, functioning systems. His first creative act was to call into existence the space/mass/time cosmos. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). This is the domain which we now study in the physical sciences. The second is the domain of the life sciences. "God created . . . every living creature that moveth" (Genesis 1:21). It is significant that the "life" principle required a second act of direct creation. It will thus never be possible to describe living systems solely in terms of physics and chemistry. The third act of creation was that of the image of God in man and woman. The study of human beings is the realm of the human sciences. Our bodies can be analyzed chemically and our living processes biologically, but human behaviour can only really be understood in terms of our relation to God, whose image we share. HMM For more . . . . |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:50pm On Apr 29, 2013 |
The Tree of Science April 29, 2013 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Genesis 2:17) In this age of science, it is well to remember that the basic meaning of "science" (Latin, scientia) is "knowledge." Thus, it is instructive to substitute "science" whenever the word "knowledge" is used in Scripture. For example: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of science" (Proverbs 1:7). It is significant that the first mention of knowledge in the Bible is in connection with the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" (Genesis 2:9). God warned Adam not to partake of that which would become in him "the science of good and evil" (Genesis 2:17). Adam already was familiar with good science, because everything God had made was "very good" (Genesis 1:31). But Satan tempted Eve with the humanistic lie that "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:5), and ever since, "science" has been both good and evil. Real science, properly applied, is good and beneficial to mankind, but "science falsely so called" (1 Timothy 6:20)--that is, pseudo-sciences, such as evolution and the humanistic social sciences--is both useless and harmful. There are many references to knowledge in the Bible, and it is good to remember that in Christ "are hid all the treasures of wisdom and science" (Colossians 2:3). And it is very significant that the last mention of knowledge, or science, in the Bible is in the last verse written by the apostle Peter before his martyrdom: "But grow in grace, and in the science of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 3:18). One can be ever so learned in all the sciences and the various intellectual disciplines of mankind, but if he does not know the Lord Jesus Christ, he has failed in the one science that yields everlasting life. He has eaten of the tree of science but has ignored the tree of life. HMM For more . . . . |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:21pm On May 03, 2013 |
Instantaneous Creation May 3, 2013 "Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created" (Psalm 148:5) The concept of "fiat creation" is opposed by evolutionists and all who believe in the so-called geologic ages. Nevertheless, this is clearly the teaching of the word of God, and God was there! Psalm 148 exhorts all the stars to praise the Lord, and then notes that, as soon as God spoke, they "were created." Similarly, "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. . . . For He spake, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast" (Psalm 33:6, 9). It is worth noting that whenever the verbs "create" or "make" are used in reference to God's work of creation, they are never in the present tense. God is not now creating or making stars or animals or people as theistic evolution requires; at the end of the six-day creation period, in fact, God "rested from all his work which God created and made" (Genesis 2:3). This is the teaching of the New Testament also. "The worlds |that is, the space/time cosmos, the 'aeons'| were framed |not 'are being framed'| by the word of God |not 'by processes of stellar evolution'|, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear |not 'out of pre-existing materials,' as required by theories of chemical and cosmic evolution|" (Hebrews 11:3). The Lord Jesus Christ Himself confirmed the doctrine of recent creation. "From the beginning of the creation |not, that is, four billion years after the solar system evolved| God made them |Adam and Eve| male and female" (Mark 10:6). Thus, those who believe in the geological ages are rejecting both the biblical record and the authority of Jesus Christ in order to attain ephemeral acceptance by the ungodly. This is a poor exchange! HMM For more . . . . |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by gbrookes02: 3:36am On May 08, 2013 |
Science can't confirm or prove any thing, sience is illogical. "However, the fact that science often contradicts itself is a reason to maintain that it is irrational and unreliable, and not a reason to permit contradictions in other fields of study. Science is an irrational discipline of speculation about reality. Sometimes its theories happen to correlate with effects that we desire, but it cannot discover any truth about reality. Knowledge about reality comes from valid deductions from biblical revelation, and never from scientific or empirical methods.7 McGrath gives no argument for us to ignore or tolerate the contradictions in science; rather, he assumes the reliability of science despite the contradictions. There is no justification for this. What makes science the standard by which we must judge all other disciplines? What gives science the right to make the rules for all other fields of study?" Systematic Theology (2012), by Vincent Cheung, Page 21. Pdf. http://www.vincentcheung.com/books/theology2010.pdf "Most people feel compelled to respect science because of the practical success that it appears to achieve; however, we have noted that affirming the consequent may yield results but not truths. Remember what Popper said about Einstein: "He would not, even if all predictions came out right, regard it as a true theory." The typical college student would disagree, but the typical college student is not Einstein. Accordingly, although science sometimes achieve practical ends, it has no authority to make pronouncements concerning the nature of reality. If the scientist does not know his place, an informed believer should not hesitate to put him back in his place. Theology is the ruling intellectual discipline, not science." Presuppositional Confrontations (2010), by , Vincent Cheung, Page 11. Pdf. http://www.vincentcheung.com/books/presupp2010.pdf |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:35am On May 08, 2013 |
Things Not Seen May 8, 2013 "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Hebrews 11:7) The little phrase "things not seen" is used three times in the New Testament, and interestingly enough, these refer to the past, present, and future works of God with respect to the things that are seen. At the beginning of the "faith chapter" of Hebrews occur these remarkable words: "Now faith is . . . the evidence of things not seen. . . . Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" (Hebrews 11:1, 3). That is, the material things of this present world were not made of pre-existing materials; they were supernaturally created by the word of the Creator! These things which are now seen provide evidence (or better, the "conviction" ) of the things not seen--that is, of God's creative work completed in the past. The "processes" that are now seen (as distinct from the "materials" ) date especially from the time of the great Flood. The "things not seen as yet" by Noah--that is, the present atmospheric circulation, the present hydrological cycle, the present seasonal changes, and many other key phenomena of the present order--all were instituted in the days of Noah when "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (2 Peter 3:6). Finally, "we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for . . . the things which are not seen are eternal" (2 Corinthians 4:18). Just as surely as the materials and processes of the present world once were unseen, but now are easily seen, so the future eternal world will soon be clearly seen when Christ returns. HMM For more . . . . 1 Like |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by debosky(m): 10:56am On May 08, 2013 |
We don't know whether the 'things not seen as yet' referred to by Hebrews refers to current hydrological cycles and atmopsheric circulation. To infer that such a claim is 'scientific' is utter nonsense. There is no scientific evidence to claim that there was a different atmospheric circulation/hydrological cycle before the flood and after the flood. You can claim whatever you want to, but don't say science supports it when it doesn't. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:16am On May 08, 2013 |
debosky: The fact that you are entitled to your own opinion doesn't detract from the the fact that Noah was moved by the evidence of things not seen. It is your choice to remain in the "I don't know" philosophy when real science has already confirmed the saying in Hebrews 11:7 as I posted some pages ago. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by debosky(m): 11:22am On May 08, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: Let me spell it out in case you're confused - the thing 'not seen' by Noah was the coming flood. It wasn't a different 'hydrological cycle' or 'atmospheric circulation'. God told Noah there was a coming flood, and he was moved by this evidence to build the ark. Simple. As for Hebrews, last I checked, there was no reference to hydrological or atmospheric cycles therein. Those are purely your inventions. 1 Like |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:46am On May 08, 2013 |
debosky: Don't be nescient. Those processes that started in the days of Noah's Flood were not visible when Noah received His commission. If Noah had doubted God what do you think would have been his fate by now? "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (2 Peter 3:6).
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Re: Science Confirms The Bible by debosky(m): 12:55pm On May 08, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: So hydrological processes and atmospheric circulation started in the days of Noah's Flood? You need to stop regurgitating this nonsense. The bible doesn't talk about any processes 'starting' - it simply says Noah believed what God said - i.e. that there would be a flood - without seeing any evidence (not seen as yet), thus exercising faith. If you go beyond what is stated in the bible with your speculation, that's your prerogative, but keep any such speculation as that - speculation. 1 Like |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by Emusan(m): 4:49pm On May 08, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: Hi OLAADEGBU, How are your days being and hope you receive my PM? Take care! Emusan |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:29am On May 09, 2013 |
debosky: You are not claiming to be prescient, are you? Read the text in context so as not to arrive in a pretext as you are now doing. "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Hebrews 11:7) Do you believe in the historicity of Noah, the Ark and the Global Flood at all, or do you just take them as allegories? debosky: Do not be a make bate. Are you now saying that Noah and the antediluvian age had ever seen rainfall, or a flood river, not to talk of a worldwide Flood before, from which the processes emanated from? debosky: If my assumptions are based on the solid foundation of the word of God as quoted above then my assumptions can only be educated assumptions. Speculations without any foundations such as the evolution theory, gap theory and the like have no leg to stand on. This is why scientist who are Christians will always arrive at the right conclusions as opposed to what atheist or theist evolutionists would get, and that is just speculations that hold no water. |
Re: Science Confirms The Bible by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:31am On May 09, 2013 |
Emusan: Hi Emusan, I replied your PM but for some reasons it didn't go through. Keep up the good work and fight the good fight of faith. |
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