Tayo-D:

I must confess that I don't know much about Donald Trump. That notwithstanding, it looks to me that the guy will be getting my vote in the next election, and it has nothing to do with his celebrity status!

D Donald needs to take his bad hair and sit down.

JeSoul:

^lol. That hair is hideous true true.

Honestly, the current crop of candidates being paraded out there leaves more than a lot to be desired. Mitt Romney? Michelle Bach? Huckabee? Gingrich? Pawlenty? (whom I don't know much about)

Looking at all the hats available in the shopping window, the one with very bad hair suddenly don't look so bad.

Well at least when d US finally goes bankrupt (considering d rate at which d deficit is growing) you will have voted for some one who knows a lot about bankruptcy.

Donald needs to take his bad hair and sit down.

so you will be voting for a celebrity too,

when the time for all the seriousness comes, he wouldn't last for a day

He comes across as a reasonable, sensible, honest and down to earth guy . . . in spite of the uhm birther drama lol. I especially admire that he is simply fearless and does not kiss anybody's backside. The guy no send at all! lol.

montelik:

OMG. Trump is nothing but hot air and noise. It easy to talk d talk, but walking d walk is another matter. like my maths teacher would say, "its not d answer that counts, so please show your workings". Trump reminds of d BNP leader in d UK. A leader looking to make splash, therefore co-opting whatever political policies, position as well as rhetoric he can in order to gain attention, support and coverage.

But then Obama got very far using d power of celebrity, so I guess Trump is making a go of it as well.

montelik:

Besides Gingrich (needs to retire to book circuit) and Huckabee (needs to go back to being a minister) all d people you just mentioned are miles better than Trump. By the way how come you like Sen Brown, yet have a not too favorable opinion of Romney. Politically they are incredibly similar.

Tayo-D:

@Jesoul,
I think say na only me see am.  At this stage, we need a leader who will dare to do the right thing irrespective of the consequences.  Trump cuts across as that kind of a guy.  Giving his background, he surely will be motivated by the desire to do what is right and become a legend, rather than succumb to Party politics and trivialities.

By the way, Bachmann is another person that I think will buck at Party loyalty to do what is right. The woman is fearless. Forget Pawlenty (T-Paw). He is a typical politician who is neither here nor there. You can't pin anything on him because of the malleability of his opinion and position. I like him as a person, but I think he is too much a politician than a fearless leader. At this junction in America, what we need is a bold and fearless leader who does not care what people think as he/she seeks to do the right thing.

Tayo-D:

@armyofone,
What choice do I have if I have to pick between two celebrities and a host of clowns?

This guy appears to have some real back bone o. See him addressing this birther issue head on when others can only tread gently. Many think what he is thinking but have no courage to speak out like he is doing.

"Show me your birth certificate! I don't want a certificate of live birth, show me the real thing. Everyone has a birth certificate, everyone, why can't he simply show his?"

Tayo-D:

^^^^^^^^^

I can see that some disgruntled rats have crawled out of their holes. Democ-RATS to be precise!

pres-elect:

Lord pls may Donald, Palin, Gingrich or Bachmann be the republican nominee Amen. May they never nominate pawlenty or Romney. Amen!!

May they never think of that fat goon in new jersey. Amen!

If donald is nominated, may he select Palin as running mate Amen
if Gingrich is nominated may he choose bachmann Amen

poops, boring thread

pres-elect:

Lord pls may Donald, Palin, Gingrich or Bachmann be the republican nominee Amen. May they never nominate pawlenty or Romney. Amen!!

May they never think of that fat goon in new jersey. Amen!

If donald is nominated, may he select Palin as running mate Amen
if Gingrich is nominated may he choose bachmann Amen

poops, boring thread

montelik:

Trump is a symptom of how rudderless d Republican brand has gotten. Let me say again politically d guy is complete JOKE.  There are far more credible businessmen who actual have some decent understanding and opinions e.g Forbes , Buffet, Zuckerman e.t.c.

@Jesoul. I also like people who aren't beholden to ideology and people who update and change their opinions. When someone goes from point A to point B and admits they were wrong or can actually explain their new found position, I applaud. But on d other hand when some one goes from point A to B and can't explain why they believed A but now subscribe to B, or when someone instead tries to claim they have not really changed their position, even though they clearly have. I find such pple to be dishonest, not smart and/or incredibly conceited and self absorbed. Trump falls into second category not d first.

Also if you want someone who can buck party lines I doubt Senator Brown won't end up disappointing you. D guy is another Romney prototype, he is just more handsome and still smells newer, but his hair isn't as good though.   

montelik:

I just knew you would be d first to inject Palin's name into this thread. I am beginning to subscribe to Jesoul opinions about you.

adconline:

political pollsters, consultants, PRs, and campaign managers are lining up to cash in on his next dumb political move. Trump has a lot of rap sheet that he would not want to open up to public scrutiny.

*smiley faces added by me for comedic emphasis  *

JUAN WILLIAMS: No Downside for Trump in 2012 Presidential Race Circus
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/04/19/juan-williams-trump-2012-presidential-race/

In three weeks, Fox News and the South Carolina Republican Party will host the first debate of the 2012 presidential primary season. A new Washington Post/ABC poll finds that none of the possible Republican contenders is currently running ahead of President Obama in a head-to-head match-up. And less than half of Republicans and Independents who lean to the right are pleased with list of Republicans most likely to make a run. The charismatically-challenged cast of Republican candidates likely to be on camera for that first debate is expected to include: Tim Pawlenty , Rick Santorum, Haley Barbour, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul.


Now, against those nice but uninspiring candidates throw in billionaire Donald Trump. Let your imagination run wild. Let the fun begin. The blunt-talking real estate developer and reality television super-star has indicated that he may very well announce his bid for the White House in the coming weeks. If he does he will be on stage, too, because he qualifies as the leading Republican candidate in several polls. He certainly has the money and the name identification, two key ingredients for any successful run.


In a Republican field that is simultaneously wide open and overcrowded, the 64-year-old magnate is becoming the focus of attention because unlike even the most radical Tea Party politicians he has no inhibitions about making outrageous statements. In recent days he has condemned the Japanese, even as they recover from an earthquake, for “ripping us off for years.” He believes we seize Libya’s oil. This week Trump disparaged Mitt Romney as a “small businessman,” with far less wealth. He’s even made statements about African-Americans that could be interpreted as racially inflammatory, referring to “the blacks.” And he has even changed his position to become an opponent of abortion.


He has also become the nation’s leading “Birther,’ again playing to what some see as a racially sensitive issue, with his own investigators trying to dig up evidence that President Obama was not born in Hawaii. There is no downside for Trump in this circus. He is not upset at the thought of losing because losing makes no difference to him. He is still getting publicity and raising the value of his brand.  With a net worth of over $2 billion dollars to fund his campaign trump is says he still plans to ask people to send in campaign donations. He is rich but so far he has not spent a dime for all the free press coverage. And the bet here is that if he decides to run he will do it with other people’s money.


He may also lead the GOP down the garden path before deciding, like Ross Perot back in 1992, to run as an independent. For leading lights in the Republican Party this Trump triumphant scenario is a nightmare. The GOP needs the election to be a referendum on President Obama. They need a reasonable, solid, non-controversial candidate to soak up all the anti-Obama energy in the country. The GOP cannot afford to play into the President’s political hand by looking extremist or frivolous.


The GOP empire is striking back:
Ari Fleischer, the White House Press Secretary under President Bush, said: “I'm sorry, I think Donald Trump is making a fool of himself. When you look at what he did, it is not presidential….you do not go around saying that our current president, who I don't agree with, is kissing people's a**. It's just not the temperament people look up to in the oval office.”

Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer on Monday night's "Special Report" said, "It's all name recognition. He is a celebrity, he is on television and a guy who talks about winners and losers. The vulgarity of him is offensive."

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and former Bush advisor Karl Rove have criticized Trump for advancing the theory of the “birthers” who believe President Obama was not born in the United States. Here what Rove told Bill O'Reilly on March 30:
The right- wing base of the Republican Party -- I'm part of that right-wing base -- is not in love with the issue of birthers. I mean, there is an element inside the Republican Party and outside the Republican Party that's fallen in love with this. But the vast majority of Republicans and the vast majority of Americans accept that he's a U.S. citizen and capable of being president. And this is a distraction… This is a mistake. It will marginalize him. And he's falling for Barack Obama's trap. Barack Obama wants Republicans to fall into this trap, because he knows it discredits us with the vast majority of American people when they do.



While other potential candidates have given weak non-answers to the birther question, saying they “take the President at his word,” Trump lays it all on the line. "What is he, baby Jesus?" ROTFLOL he quipped in an interview with Bill O’Reilly. "People have birth certificates…He doesn't have one…Maybe it says he's a Muslim, I don't know" he said. "If he wasn't born in this country, it's one of the great scams of this time." So where does that leave us? In a recent poll of Republican primary voters conducted by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News, Trump tied with Mike Huckabee for second place with 17%. Only Mitt Romney, with 21%, garnered more support for the nomination. In a general election contest against the President, Romney comes closest to the incumbent, trailing by four points at 49-45, and Huckabee trails by 6 points at 50-44. This is at a time when 57 percent of Americans, according to the Post poll, disapprove of the president’s job performance, a record low for President Obama.

There is no downside to all of the media attention for Donald Trump. He has already pulled in the equivalent of millions of dollars in free advertising for his name AND the Trump brand. Whether he ultimately enters the race for the presidency or not, there's one man in the Republican field who's already laughing all the way to the bank      .

pres-elect:

@jesoul
u remember that research I was doing in the other thread? I had to dump it. Was getting emotionally scary.

Following his firing from NPR, Williams appeared on The O'Reilly Factor and discussed his thoughts on how his role at Fox played into NPR's decision: "I don't fit in their box. I'm not predictable black liberal. You [O'Reilly] were exactly right when you said you know what this comes down to. They were looking for a reason to get rid of me because I'm appearing on Fox News. They don't want me talking to you."