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Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by omenala(m): 3:20pm On May 18, 2011
@ Lfj, who told you christians and jews are not viewed as unbelievers? Have you read the history of jerusalem, makor, khartum etc do you know how many jews, christians, pagans and even european christian settlers that were beheaded for being unbelievers by saladin and other islamic jihadists? Do you know how many women were plundered, raped, forced into marriage with the same people that killed thier fathers, brothers and husbands or sold into slavery by Mohamed and his band of jihadists? Do you your self see me as a believer? Does boko haram do? The truth is bitter but it still remains the truth, islam was founded on violence and will always be associated with violence!

@ jenifa, am not surprised, keep trying to defend the undefendable, as long as you've have alhaji's c.o.c.k in you, you'll keep spilling trash.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by unphilaz(m): 4:28pm On May 18, 2011
thanks op

i smile with em but i keep my distance.

All u christians are blessed
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Vicjustice: 1:18am On May 19, 2011
ziccoit:

@Poster, you have really done a grave job that could turn out to misinform a lot of people and hunt their psychic.
   What word exactly is a misinformation in the quotes, and why should the truth hunt the psychic of any normal person?

ziccoit:

Why do you go all the way quoting the verses of Noble Quran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammed without giving the full interpretations of those quotes? You are entering into the very middle of an Ocean.
   So, you mean that all these words in plain English still need interpretations? OK then, interpret

ziccoit:

You have no knowledge of what you are saying. Those blanket quotes and interpretations given to them are non-congruent. If by your religion ALLAH means GOD, you are telling us here that GOD is not the Creator of NON-MUSLIMS. How can ALLAH create a group and directed them to be killed by another group just like that without any reason.
   Sorry, i don't accept that that is the name of the God of creation, the same thing i'd say of Shango, Amadioha, Olokun, Ogun etc.

ziccoit:

  I swear by ALLAH the creator of the Universe, the Poster doesn't have the knowledge of what he is doing. All what he wrote are lies. They don't go as presented by him. You need to spend years in the school of Arabic to be able to give correct meaning to the verses of HOLY QURAN and THE SAYINGS OF THE PROPHET.
   Who is the liar here? Check the Quran and see if these quotations are not in places?

ziccoit:

By definition, ISLAM is a religious of peace. If you now see something going against such all you need is asking those who know. The poster, no doubt is a religious bigot and a product of our poor educational system.
   Islam means SUBMISSION


ziccoit:

@Poster, you have demonstrated the peak of hatred you have for the MUSLIMS and ISLAM based on lies. This is how people of your likes are doing painting Islam and Muslims black all over the world. When do you going to stop this? You are getting older everyday you know?
   Now, who is the liar here, is it me who posted verses from the quran or you who claim that the words have good meanings?

ziccoit:

Picking those quotes one by one and demystifying them would be a waste of time because, your mind is made up already. The heat of hatred being generated by your mind for MUSLIMS and ISLAM can only be quenched by you alone.
   That would not be possible because, you'd have to construct some ridiculous lies to make the words look good.

ziccoit:

I can give you scores of QURANIC verses and THE SAYING OF THE PROPHET, where MUSLIMS are enjoying and mandated to live in harmony with NON-MUSLIMS. If we could have such, are you accusing GOD of being doubletalked and contradicting Himself? As far as the knowledge about which this thread is opened; you are an empty brain.
   Even a notorious murderer has some good stuff in his heart, does that make him contradict himself? Well, I'm not interested in the verses that are civil, i'm only concerned by the ones that are evil
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Vicjustice: 1:40am On May 19, 2011
LFJ:

I see this your posting as another way of misinforming people about the religion of other people. Your posting amount to calling over one billion people a fool.
   the verses are not from my personal book but from the Quran, so, i'm not misleading anyone


LFJ:

We need to learn how to deal with our problem in Nigeria without insulting other intelligent people across the world who are Muslims.
   Exactly, we really need to deal with the book that contains these verses, that's our problem to deal with.

LFJ:

When did Christian or Jew become an unbeliever to you, the verse you are referring to 9:5, 9:6 … said pagans and unbeliever[/b]s, and according to my dictionary, the word unbelievers and pagans are well define to guide us
   So, in other word, it is OK to kill the Unbelievers and Pagans, huh?

LFJ:

Pegan
1. One of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. A person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.
3. An irreligious or hedonistic person.

Unbelievers
1. A person who does not believe.
2. A person who does not accept any or some particular, religious belief.


[b]Let us be an agent of peace, and stop all these Muslim and Christian, Yoruba, Hausa and Ibo propagandas.
   Oh yeah! Agent of peace to the Christians and Jews, so, death on all unbelievers and pagans; Hurray!
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Vicjustice: 7:21am On May 19, 2011
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by ajalio(f): 7:42am On May 19, 2011
@OP

Don't talk about things you know nothing about.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by joecrack(m): 10:10am On May 19, 2011
@zicciot
how else should we decifer what allah said,it is plainly written kill an unbeliever(xtian,jew,budhist etc) if he does not subscribe to the tenants of ur religion(islam) so how else do i need to dig deep to understand according to u the real meaning of what was said,or hw else do u hope to convince a convert of all these violence in the quran in a fast changing world where issues that have to do with the fundamental rights of people as regards beliefs,expressions etc are sacrosant.and i think the poster highlighted the fact of politics and i believe to some large extent,environments also matter in all this.why for instance in the south west where a huge chunk and in fact almost every family has got a mixed breed of muslim and christians,who live in harmony devoid of any rancour even at the face of divergent views on religious underpinnings.hw about ghana where incidentally there is a huge population of native hausas practicing islam,but we have never heard of religious riots.even in the arab world where islam came from,there are some countries in the middle east that are very peaceful,dubai the biz hub of the uae has millions frollicking there annually,kuwait,quatar,bahrain,turkey,cyprus etc are muslim countries but accomodate and live peacefully with non muslims.
My candid view,the prophet,whether correct or under the illusion he was sent by god to propagate islam went about it fanatically,thereby bringing violence and a do or die nature into it,he was to some large extent successful with his adventure,partly due to his zeal and also the socio-religious way the society then was,there were alot of pagan worship and here was a man bringing what you might call a better offer to the table,but as years and ages went by, with islam going around the world(northern nigeria inclusive) complexities of various aspects of socialisation had also evolved,with people now living in multi ethnic/religious/political societies with fundamental human rights i think some of the teachings of the quran has to be thrown away because they do not hold water in our present day,that is what the muslims in quater,turkey and the rest(refered to as moderates) have done,and you can see the way they have progressed and are far developed than taliban ruled afganistan,tribal iraq,tribal pakistan,tribal yemen etc who are aversed to the harsh shariah style as espoused by the prophet.
Unfortunately in northern nigeria,we have a situation where high level illiteracy and poverty has made the people take everything given to them hook,line sinker without recourse to debating or carefully chronicling what ever is told them,as such people have nw become a slave to a religion.consequently,politicians and leaders in this region have taken advantage of this vulnerability to impose their wishes on the people,so when there is percieved dominance by southerners(unbelievers) either in the politico-economic scene.it is very easy to say take clubs and knives and go slaughter them,burn their churches,shops and houses.
Thats why they have nt been able to curb the almajiri syndrome or even reduce it,at the moment,FG statistics says 9million,these are battalions of ever ready troops waiting to march out when the commander says GO!
Note:northern nigeria is the mort backward and poorest region in the world.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by KissIkebe(f): 10:14am On May 19, 2011
I can't believe the mature minds of the posters in this thread, i'm surprised to see how most comments are made in civil manners. please let it remain so.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Vicjustice: 10:44am On May 19, 2011
joecrack:

@zicciot
how else should we decifer what allah said,it is plainly written kill an unbeliever(xtian,jew,budhist etc) if he does not subscribe to the tenants of your religion(islam) so how else do i need to dig deep to understand according to u the real meaning of what was said,or hw else do u hope to convince a convert of all these violence in the quran in a fast changing world where issues that have to do with the fundamental rights of people as regards beliefs,expressions etc are sacrosant.and i think the poster highlighted the fact of  politics and i believe to some large extent,environments also matter in all this.why for instance in the south west where a huge chunk and in fact almost every family has got a mixed breed of muslim and christians,who live in harmony devoid of any rancour even at the face of divergent views on religious underpinnings.hw about ghana where incidentally there is a huge population of native hausas practicing islam,but we have never heard of religious riots.even in the arab world where islam came from,there are some countries in the middle east that are very peaceful,dubai the biz hub of the uae has millions frollicking there annually,kuwait,quatar,bahrain,turkey,cyprus etc are muslim countries but accomodate and live peacefully with non muslims.
My candid view,the prophet,whether correct or under the illusion he was sent by god to propagate islam went about it fanatically,thereby bringing violence and a do or die nature into  it,he was to some large extent successful with his adventure,partly due to his zeal and also the socio-religious way the society then was,there were alot of pagan worship and here was a man bringing what you might call a better offer to the table,but as years and ages went by, with islam going around the world(northern nigeria inclusive) complexities of various aspects of socialisation had also evolved,with people now living in multi ethnic/religious/political societies with fundamental human rights [size=13pt] i think some of the teachings of  the quran has to be thrown away because they do not hold water in our present day [/size],that is what the muslims in quater,turkey and the rest(refered to as moderates) have done,and you can see the way they have progressed and are far developed than taliban ruled afganistan,tribal iraq,tribal pakistan,tribal yemen etc who are aversed to the harsh shariah style as espoused by the prophet.
Unfortunately in northern nigeria,we have a situation where high level illiteracy and poverty has made the people take everything given to them hook,line sinker without recourse to debating or carefully chronicling what ever is told them,as such people have nw become a slave to a religion.consequently,politicians and leaders in this region have taken advantage of this vulnerability to impose their wishes on the people,so when there is percieved dominance by southerners(unbelievers) either in the politico-economic scene.it is very easy to say take clubs and knives and go slaughter them,burn their churches,shops and houses.
Thats why they have nt been able to curb the almajiri syndrome or even reduce it,at the moment,FG statistics says 9million,these are battalions of ever ready troops waiting to march out when the commander says GO!
Note:northern nigeria is the mort backward and poorest region in the world.
   I'm really impressed at the wise and educative contents of this post.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Nobody: 10:59am On May 19, 2011
Problem is education.

Fundamentalists are keen emulate the looks and actions of the Prophet Mohammed.

Asari Dokubo converted to Islam cos he thought Christianity was too gentle.

The  Quaran has just the ideal mantra for that  tongue
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by ajalio(f): 11:56am On May 19, 2011
First is to be said that the Qur'an was not revealed in one piece, but over a period of 24 years, in each case some verses / suras to a current situation or problem. This is absolutely important to know, because every verse is to be interpreted in his historical, social context – to every verse the question is to be put in which situation a verse was sent and not "blind to apply". Muslim scientists have already done this, for centuries and nobody of them will say that a Moslem has to kill a non-Moslem and even more so no believer of the books, meaning Christians or Jews.

Most of these often as "martial" cited verses come from a time in which the Muslims emigrated from Mecca to Medina, because there they were hindered of their religious exercise and were tormented and their life was threatened, by oppressors. Nevertheless, they were pursued and in Medina it came to a shooting war.


In this situation the fighting in defence was imposed on the Muslims. Most verses in which such conflicts are appealed, refer to such or similar circumstances. However, the Qur'an is to be seen as a whole and one can, as like with any other text, tear out single verses, contextless, and paint a distorted image.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by ajalio(f): 12:46pm On May 19, 2011
On the other hand, the Christianity in its bloody history has extinguished whole people, has destroyed cultures. Characteristics are compulsive christianisation for millenniums, mass murders of dissidents, but also racism till the present. In the history especially the Catholic church and her accompanying groups has evoked the biggest crimes: Annihilation of dissidents, witch persecution, crusades, the murder of umpteen million Indians in
order of the "christianisation" of America, religious wars etc. Most of this all was propagated and carried out by
fanatical-fundamentalistic thinking popes and religious leaders. This goes till the new history: if we think only of the establishment of the fascistic franco-government in Spain or of the „Ustascha-Regime“ in former Yugoslavia. With support of the then archbishop Stepinac who later was appointed Cardinal by the pope hundred thousands
dissidents were killed.


Before you all can count yourselves competent to discuss about such issues like this here, you have to study
the three monotheistic religions and history, deeply.


peace and love
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by joecrack(m): 2:59pm On May 19, 2011
@dajali
i think ur earlier post on the quran has been able to enlighten me on some of these issues.as a southerner i'd lived most of life up north in kd and i know that some of the people and friends i'd met can stand out to be some of the best nigerians we have but on the flip side of things i've also met terrible beast,i've lost love ones to religious crisis i cant hurrily 4get the shariah crisis in 2000,in fact years ago while i was barely 8 i had been stabbed by an almajiri kid who normally comes together with his mates to my area to beg for alms and food,following arguements while playing football,the statements they were echoing were the ones that are normally chanted during crisis-allahu akbar~blah blah blah.
Do i nw say because of the attitudes of these almajiris who were raised on a flawed upbringing affect my judgement of a northern person of good education/upbringing and impeccable character all because he/she shares the same religion with another animal who kills in the name of that religion.absolute not.i think there should be an understanding,this lack of understanding is what scares most people especially southerners about islam,they are ignorant about it and accept negative stereotypes of violence!shariah etc to becloud their judgements on islam and truthfully speaking they have a right to be.this should seriously place a burden on moderates into reaching out,opening up and dymistifying this percieved 'myth' about islam,and i think this task is nt impossible seeing people from the south are very much opened to learning new things.this system has worked and perfectly working in the U.S. with the way americans abhor-detest and even dread islam,the religion is the second fastest growing religion in the U.S. with followers running into millions, thats because even in the face of terrorism which are perpatrated by muslims,the muslim leaders and clerics in america have been able highlight the good aspects of islam as regards peaceful coexistence,love etc and throw away the violence thats why they condemn violent attacks and this has endeared so many americans to islam.
You made recourse to the fact that xtianity is the bloodiest religion,though these are complex issues we cant really discuss all here but killings by olden days catholics are issues that have been strongly and have been proven to be unchristianly,alot of these people were nt xtians. But on the issue the old testament,yes GOD did ask his peole(isrealites) to go to war and kill,they did this to reclaim lands from people whom had sinned against Him and interestingly if u read when the isrealites sinned he allows other nations to attack,kill and take them captive.bt as time went,the seasons of time changed and God being God indeed sent his son into saving the world and also abrogate some of the laws he gave hundreds of years before that suited the perculiarities of the times,so where he said an eye for an eye,Christ said forgive,infact Christ brought a whole new dawn to the existence of mankind,moreso when he left his disciples were given revelations and visions in handling various problems in christiandom and more interestingly is the gift of the holy spirit that gives you access to GOD through a simple channel called prayers.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Nobody: 3:34pm On May 19, 2011
☻ajali☺:


On the other hand, the Christianity in its bloody history has extinguished whole people, has destroyed cultures. Characteristics are compulsive christianisation for millenniums, mass murders of dissidents, but also racism till the present. In the history especially the Catholic church and her accompanying groups has evoked the biggest crimes: Annihilation of dissidents, witch persecution, crusades, the murder of umpteen million Indians in
order of the "christianisation"  of America, religious wars etc. Most of this all was propagated and carried out by
fanatical-fundamentalistic thinking popes and religious leaders. This goes till the new history: if we think only of the establishment of the fascistic franco-government in Spain or of the „Ustascha-Regime“ in former Yugoslavia. With support of the then archbishop Stepinac who later was appointed Cardinal by the pope hundred thousands
dissidents were killed.



Before you all can count yourselves competent to discuss about such issues like this here, you have to study
the three monotheistic religions and history, deeply.


peace and love


You talk like no racism in Islam. . .

Don't Arabs call blacks 'abid'

difference between us is that muslims cause havoc with references to quranic verses

not forgetting the obligatory chants of 'Allah akbar' when you kill infidels
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by wishlolia(f): 9:38am On May 20, 2011
Must admit the OP did a very nice job, how could i ever have known that such hate verses exist in a holy book?
Oh, thank you for the supporting video from an insider who knows more about the quran than we do
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by fineboy200: 8:59pm On May 20, 2011
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Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by fineboy200: 9:03pm On May 20, 2011
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by fineboy200: 9:08pm On May 20, 2011
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by onyekabe(m): 11:55am On May 21, 2011
Islam is not peace cos you can find islamic state that treats non muslem as brothers rather they are always eager to kill their neighbour who is not a muslem or does not belong to the same set that explains why shite are killing sunni. Bokoharam killing thier neighbour in the north. However a good muslem is the that has killed many infidels ( chritians jews traditionalist etc)
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by KissIkebe(f): 8:32pm On May 21, 2011
onyekabe:

Islam is not peace cos you can find islamic state that treats non muslem as brothers rather they are always eager to kill their neighbour who is not a muslem or does not belong to the same set that explains why shite are killing sunni. Bokoharam killing thier neighbour in the north. However a good muslem is the that has killed many infidels ( chritians jews traditionalist etc)
Absolutely true. Sad thing is that Muslims lie a lot and they like to deny the things that are done by other muslims by excusing the Quran which gave the commands to do such things. All you hear the Muslems say is that "you don't understand the real meaning" of any Quranic words that seems antisocial.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by Vicjustice: 11:47am On May 24, 2011
onyekabe:

Islam is not peace cos you can find islamic state that treats non muslem as brothers rather they are always eager to kill their neighbour who is not a muslem or does not belong to the same set that explains why shite are killing sunni. Bokoharam killing thier neighbour in the north. However a good muslem is the that has killed many infidels ( chritians jews traditionalist etc)
It could be correct to say "Islam is a religion of 'Peace'" depending on how the Muslims define peace; but if Peace means Peace in the actual sense, then these people need to re-examine their understandings.
Re: No Matter The Politics: Christrians And Muslims Will Never Live In Unity by hakanai(m): 4:38pm On May 24, 2011
Luke 19:27 (King James Version)

27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.

GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.

GE 19:26 God personally sees to it that Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt (for having looked behind her while fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah).

GE 38:9 ",  whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked , , so the Lord put him to death."

EX 2:12 Moses murders an Egyptian.

EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7 The purpose of the devastation that God brings to the Egyptians is as follows:
to show that he is Lord;
to show that there is none like him in all the earth;
to show his great power;
to cause his name to be declared throughout the earth;
to give the Israelites something to talk about with their children;
to show that he makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt.

EX 9:22-25 A plague of hail from the Lord strikes down everything in the fields of Egypt both man and beast except in Goshen where the Israelites reside.

EX 12:29 The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt.

EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people.

EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.

EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.

LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword."

LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."

LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.

LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39)

NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague.

NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.

NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.

NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious.

NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.

NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people.

NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.

NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites.

NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og ",  and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left , "

NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun , "

NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly."

NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord.

NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children.

NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and ",  every woman who has known man , " (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and ",  every woman who has known man , " (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)

NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.


DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.

DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.

DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and shown "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.

DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males ,  As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."


DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."

DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.

DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you."

JS 1:1-9, 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow.

JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho men, women, and children with the edge of the sword.

JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing.

JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.

JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.

JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.

JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.

JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.

JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.

JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.

JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.

JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land , ; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.)


JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, , utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed , "

JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."

JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.

JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.

JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes.

JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem.

JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.

JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.

JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad.

JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the ground.

JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon.

JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel.

JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.

JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city.

JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died."

JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child, according to a vow he has made with the Lord.

JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to slay thirty men.

JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an backside.

JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes.

JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women.

JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish.

JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their towns on fire.

JG 21:10-12 ",  Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones,  every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use.

1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers.

1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for having stolen the Ark.

1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's abode.)

1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines.

1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites.

1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines.

1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.

1SA 15:3, 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and backside , ' And Saul ,  utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."

1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord , "

1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands."

1SA 18:27 David murders 200 Philistines, then cuts off their foreskins.

1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.

2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.

2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.

2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David.

2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron.

2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines , "

2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren throughout her life.

2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.)

2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses.

2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.

2SA 8:6, 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went."

2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves.

2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.

2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.

2SA 12:1, 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that David has committed.

2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, despoils her, then hates her.

2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.

2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim.

2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.

2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave him ",  wallowing in his own blood in the highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him, stopped."

2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 men.

1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.

1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.

1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.

1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking water in a place where the Lord had previously told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that the man had subsequently been lied to by a prophet who told the man that an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink there.

1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians.

2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men.

2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God.

2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy.

2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.

2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."

2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.

2KI 9:27 Ahaziah has Jehu killed.

2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands remain.

2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads to their father.

2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.

2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped them out, according to the word of the Lord , "

2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers.

2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.

2KI 14:5, 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites.

2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places."

2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant.

2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.

1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes."

2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.

2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.

PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones.

PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle.

IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ,  wives will be ravished."

IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children."

IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers."

IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine.

JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth."

LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off than those who die of famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ,  pitiful women have cooked their own children, who became their food , "

EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: ",  they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak , "

EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: ",  slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women , "

EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of their first-born children.

EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh.

EZ 23:25, 47 God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those who were whores.

EZ 23:34 "You shall ,  pluck out your hair, and tear your bosoms."

HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

MI 3:2-3 ",  who pluck off their skin , , and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron."

MT 3:12, 8:12, 10:21, 13:30, 42, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30, LK 13:28, JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth.

MT 10:21 ",  the brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and the father his child, ,  children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death."

MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own family."

MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses €the inhabitants of› three cities who were not sufficiently impressed with his great works.

AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though not permanently).





John 5:30 (King James Version)

30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine? own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 16:12-14 (King James Version)

12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you? things to come.

14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 16:7 (King James? Version)

7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
 
John 15:26 (King James Version)

26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the? Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 14:16 (King James Version)

16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he? may abide with you for ever;

Isaiah 29:12 (King James Version)

12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith,? I am not learned.
story of prophet Muhammad justifies this!

Jesus said hes not got any sprit of god:

Luke 24:39 (King James Version)

39Behold? my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Jesus fell in worship like to God,
Luke 22:39-42 (King James Version)

39And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him.

40And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and? kneeled down, and prayed,

42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
 


Matthew 4:10 (King James Version)
10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him? only shalt thou serve.

Why didn't Jesus ask to be worshipped and why would the devil attempt to convince the son of god or god,His maker or son of his maker?



Mark 15:34 (King James Version)

34 And at the ninth hour Jesus? cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
So did jesus pray to him self then:


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