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Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 9:11am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Denn: Lol! Why should you decide where we start the digging? Who did the Yorubas meet at Ife? Let's start at that. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 9:14am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Denn: Afa is to Igbo, what Ifa is to Yoruba and whatever it is called throughout West Africa. All independent of one another. There is no specific source of origin for the West African groups. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 9:15am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: You are evidently avoiding the truth. I asked you a question. You answered by asking another question. How does that sound? If you are so sure Afa didn't originate from Ifa, then answer where Afa originated from. It is simple |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 9:19am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Don't let him take you down that root. He is asking how a system came to Igbos when this system has no specific origin and ties to any group but found across Africa. How did Bronze casting get to Yorubas since Igbos have the oldest civilization and Bronze works in West Africa? I'm glad, I am comfortable in my ethnic group as an igbo, I don't have to go around stealing and laying claims to others achievements. That man is a deluded bigot. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 9:22am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Denn: What you are doing here is rubbish. You are super imposing yourself on others civilizations and putting words in their mouth and then turn around to ask them to counter it when your claims are mere delusions. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 9:24am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Boudiccao: let the person i asked answer. You have been unable to answer too. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 9:32am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:lol. Phillips wrote a letter to London asking permission to invade Benin because the Oba banned trades with the itsekiris who were supplying the brits. Philips did not wait for a reply and organised 250 men who hid their weapons and pretended to be tourists. The Ijaws sent a message to the Oba to the Oba, the Brits were told to go back, they refused fights broke out and 253 of them were killed. Britain humiliated and fearing other regions might follow suit sent a message the governor of South African protectorate. He was informed of Phillips letters which claimed that there were more than enough bronze in the city to pay for whatever logistics it would take to claim the City. Africans soldiers in the southern African protectorate were recruited and promised bronze and gold. Message was sent to the governor in Niger delta Protectorate and he enlisted West Africans they attacked from 3 sides, at least 3,000 Africans and a few Brits who remained near their ship until the fight was over. This is the only reason the city was ransacked, to pay the Africans who did the job. What the fucck are trying to say that other Kings weren't free men? You are just there in your IPOB hallucinating about people you know nothing about. The first time an Ọba tried to overreach into the South he was killed there. Ozolua who ran circles round Yorubas in Ado-ekiti Annexed most parts of Idah was killed in Uromi. Lagos was created by by mostly Esan and etsako soldiers. That's why you have places like lekki, idumota, idumagbo etc having esan names. Uromi was the military head of the kingdom. You have no idea what you are talking about 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by aribisala0(m): 9:35am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Born2Breed:How? That is interpretation His words were written and there is no ambiguity People are attributing to him what he did not say He is correct when he says Igbos are "sensitive". It is almost child like An unfortunate tendency to be emotional and incapable of objectivity All of a sudden we are hearing all manner of things that he never said/ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 9:44am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: We are saying same thing. Phillips or whatever wasn't acting on official orders. There was not enough guns and not enough men in his ranks. That's not how the British expedition works. British expenditions come at you gun blazing with their maxims, no sneaking around. You just butchered poorly armed British man acting alone without official backing, any fool can do that. When the real British official Calvary arrived, you were blown away in a matter of hours. You couldn't just deal, you lack the sophistication to fight such opposition because your village Monarchical system of Government is defective to. This is the truth, but because the Igbo generally mind our business, so we don't go about telling you how stupid your Monarchical system was and is, foolish Reno and co now think they can come and belittle our superior system, hence the need to put you empty braggarts and your village Monarchy where you belong. No offense! If the affliated forces to Oba Bini were strong and not just empty heads whose chain of command rested solely on Oba, why did they all capitulate and surrender immediately the Oba was captured by the British? That's the question you should be asking yourself. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by NwaEzefuNaMba(m): 9:48am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: Are you trying to say that Chief Stephen Osita Osadebe is also an Edo man? 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 9:49am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:Oh Ariana, Blessed be the loins that sired thee and the womb that bore thee. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 9:50am On Jul 24, 2021 |
ejibaba:Taaa, onye gwai nko? |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by aribisala0(m): 9:52am On Jul 24, 2021 |
The Aros were not idetified as Igbo during the slave trade and indeed few groups were. The Aro were ruled by an Ibom/Akamkpa dynasty just like Fulani rule in Kano That dynasty is there till today Reno is right Ibos are very sensitive and emotional folk , like women 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 9:53am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:who surrendered? Did Uromi stop having a king? Did any of the enigies lose his crown with the Oba? The city of is relatively small, which kingdom hasn't fallen when attacked from all sides especially by people close to you who know your terrain. The Igbo savages you are hyping who fought in jungles can't be compared with a well developed kingdom. They can be likened to the talibans in Afghanistan. Yes it is more difficult to beat savages hiding in bushes with no clear leaders just like the Vietcongs and the Afghans it doesn't make them more sophisticated. All develop empires and kingdoms in human history had Kings and should the king get captured the war is over. If your savage life of old, with no clear leader and hiding in bushes to fight was so developed and advanced why didn't you use the same tactics during the Biafran war? Why did your people surrender the moment Ojukwu ran away and Philip begged the feds to spare his life? 7 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:01am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: i agree. The capitulation of the King ends the war. Same way Kano and sokoto towns were taken over. The death of Hitler ended German war, The surrender of the Japanese emperor ended hostilities in Japan WW2. However, when there is no clear government structure....sips lipton Many scholars agree that the Igbos were by definition "Stateless' before colonial rule. This assertion has been rejected by some Igbo scholars in some articles. However, the general opinion on the matter is that since the Igbos lacked a central form of government at this period, they cannot be referred to as a State. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by stieyven(m): 10:04am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Millimann:He who calls another a fool shall be in danger of hell. Matthew 5 :22 Remember that you shall be judged by every idle word you speak. Matthew 12 :36 You'll do well to receive Jesus into your life. Tomorrow may be too late. John 3 :16 |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 10:05am On Jul 24, 2021 |
bomb24:Agbogidi o. Bomb please be gentle. I have had some bini girls show me love. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 10:11am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Once you take out the head, the rest is gone. People with no Kings are more difficult to conquer and that's exactly the problems Britian faced in Igboland even during Colonialism. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 10:13am On Jul 24, 2021 |
bomb24:Were they up to 200 fighting men? |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:16am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Boudiccao: I agree with this. A people with no central government is not easy to conquer. The same principle in use with Al-Qeda and the proliferation of cells. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 10:17am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Denn: There are no answers to supremacist claims pulled out of your ass to berate others. Discrediting Igbos with your fictitious remarks is all you have done on this thread. That's a dubious way of way of engaging others. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 10:17am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: Funny enough when the British captured Bini City. They complained of your savagery uncivilized ways. Many rotten flesh of human sacrifice altars all over the fettish village Bini City. Very funny. Arochukwu defended Aro chukwu town for full four days before losing the town. But your backward Village empire of fables lasted for just a day and then capitulated! Go figure. The Enogies are Oba stooges hence all surrendered to the British immediately they captured the Oba. Was Bini an empire? Who did you rule over? Ikas? There is a reason developed world jettisoned Monarchical system for democratic ones, they (Monarchical system) were defective systems and doesn't suit the massess. We had clear leaders. They were just not a fat old Oba with many wives to Bleep around and feed fat on people sweat We were too sophisticated to allow such. Our leaders were elected/appointed for specific tasks at specific times. Your Bini were the real savages who took weapons from Portuguese and went about terrorizing your fellow blacks to exchange for pieces of bronze. Shameless minorities. The war was already lost before Ojukwu fled because of the international sabotage that led to Biafran blockade and the starvation policy. Ojukwu was not captured. Biafra was starved of food, which by the way was a war crime. Either way, Ojukwu wasn't a king neither were we running a Monarchical system in Biafra, so I fail to see the relationship. If you had killed Ojukwu, and Biafra still had access to food and weapons,I promise you that the war would continue full throttle with new leader appointed. Biafra lost Enugu city very early in the campaign, yet the war raged on for years. Oba wasn't even captured when Bini fell, he ran into the bush and had the opportunity to regroup and fight again at other places if Bini was indeed an empire. But because Bini was a mushroom kingdom living in fables, Oba knew his control didn't extend much outside Bini City, so once the City fell, the Oba came out from the Bush he was hiding like a coward and tried to negotiate his freedom with gold and silver from the British army. Either way, you are comparing apples and oranges here. Let's stick to your fat old slow Oba and your defective Monarchical system that couldn't defend Bini for more than 1 day under the power of Maxim guns, whereas Arochukwu town was defended for 4 full days and thereafter rallied behind and continued the battle outside the administrative headquarters of the Confederacy for another full 5 months. 4 Likes
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Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 10:17am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:Anyone who wants to know more about the ekumeku war should look for a book titled Ife Aka Onye. It was used to teach history those days. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:18am On Jul 24, 2021 |
doublewisdom: Details of the Benin Expedition On 9 February 1897, the invasion of the Kingdom of Benin began. The British invasion force of about 1,200 Royal Marines, sailors and Niger Coast Protectorate Forces was organised into three columns: the 'Sapoba', 'Gwato' and 'Main' columns. Flotillas of warships (including HMS Philomel and Phoebe) and gunboats approached Benin City from the east and west.[14] The 'Sapoba' and 'Main' columns reached Benin City after ten days of fighting. The 'Gwato' column (under Captain Gallwey) took the same route as that taken by the previous mission and came on the scene of the massacre, finding headless bodies of the victims.[15] Source: Wikipedia |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:20am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Boudiccao: OK |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 10:28am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Boudiccao: Yet the stupid Reno opened his mouth to tell us how not having useless fat lazy kings meant that Igboland was disorganized and open for any stupid group to plunder. What a stupid sentence. When the British with Maxim guns sweated for decades to get past Enuani and the Eastern Igbos, what chance did useless village Monarchical minority societies around Igbos stand? Normally we should be humiliating these people for being stupid enough to allow a fat slow man rule over them, like they don't have brains to decide their own dates, but we don't, because naturally we mind our own business. But apparently, these people are now drunk in their own foolishness that they think our silence on exposing and deriding their stupid monarchies was an invitation for them to start attacking our superior democratic society. I swear, we have to start putting these people where they all belong. We have been on the defense for so long. It's about time we go in attack full speed. Ndi Mgbu! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 10:32am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:did Africans join forces with the British invade your so called arochukwu? Hoping to loot gold and bronze? You don't know where the Benin empire ruled over lol? Ado-ekiti, Ondo, Lagos, Agbọ even Onicha, your only notable place in Nigeria was founded by the benins. The Benin wasn't an empire all through the time. Most of the territories were lost mainly because benins preferred to live in the city that was how most of the territories were overrun by the other populous tribes. Talibans also elect their leaders. By your logic Roman empire, China, Persia, Britain France, Germany, Ottoman, Austro-Hungary were all savages? Oba Ovonramwen was neither fat nor slow. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by doublewisdom: 10:37am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee:Akuko Idu n'Oba 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Exponential101: 10:37am On Jul 24, 2021 |
They suffered 5 full month to bring you under control n ruled your father for over 500 years afters that n you are here gloating. This is despite the fact that every single sentence of your assertion is wrong n dead b4 arrival. You no get shame. It is this same Nigeria they British had to mobilize soldiers from India, Ghana n Freetown to fight a particular town yet they are not making mouth like you lazy ass lunatics. Ariani: |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:40am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Me i will ask questions o. Which decades did the British sweat to get past the Enuani and eastern Igbos? Thanks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 10:40am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: Lol! You are not so wise. Who doesn't know that British expendition soldiers were mainly blacks recruited from neighbouring tribes? The British army that invaded Arochukwu had many recruited sell out Igbos from non Aro affliated groups in them. Some of them had vendetta against Aro though. Benin ruled Onicha? You are not okay. You suffer from inferiority complex and need to attach to Igbo blinding glories and splendour. Onicha people were Igbos who went to Bini to civilize you savages, but had to leave when you wanted to kill them and returned back home and were welcomed back into the receptive warm hands of fellow Igbos. Your brother recently posted an Interview by Igwe Achebe Nnaemeka, go look for an Igbo man to interpret the interview for you. How dare you place your village kingdom side by side with those great empires who are associated with one world changing inventions or the other? Are you a comedian? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 10:44am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Exponential101: I have to brag. Because Reno whose village Bini Kingdom capitulated just under one day of British Maxim assault, had the temerity to belittle my ancestors who lasted for 5 full months under same assault. We were a superior people to his own people, as far as resisting foreign invasion is concerned. As a Bini affliated man, he and his Bini overlords have nothing on Ndiigbo. We were and remain superior. We don't usually go about rubbing this fact in, but because these Minorities will not let us be. It's a about time we started rubbing it in! 3 Likes |
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