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Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 10:45am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Thank you. You've said it all. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 10:47am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:lol you have comprehensive issues? I said onicha was founded by the benins https://www.britannica.com/place/Onitsha-Nigeria If we are to go by the anichebe version which is also the Benin version it's even worse. Chima the son of the Oba who was most likely birthed by Ika slave was denied the throne so he took some loyalist and migrated far away across the Niger. I was basically talking about Onitsha being founded by Benin adventurers and modeled after the Benin monarchy. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 10:48am On Jul 24, 2021 |
doublewisdom:what the hell are you trying to say? |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 10:51am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Denn: Ariani You are yet to answer this question. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Exponential101: 10:55am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Many of you Igbos just chose to be deliberately foolish for no reason. How can a lunatic be comparing Ojukwu that was beaten blue-black by an aboki in the 20th century to the Benin king that withstand the might of the British invasion in the 18th century ? We are talking British invasion similar to that of the America n India. I am 100% sure the British can not have a journal on conquest of the igbo, that is how insignificant your entire tribe is n will forever be till eternity. Do you have any idea how many books memo journals have been written by the same British on dealing with the Benin kingdom ? Ariani: 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 10:59am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: Lol! You obviously didn't listen to Igwe Achebe interview well. Onitsha lived in Ife having migrated from Igboland, later moved to Bini , had issues with Bini people, and came back home to Igboland, all these while maintaining and retaining their Igbo language and names. Is Onitsha Monarchy really same as Bini? As travellers, Onicha came back home with foreign cultural exposure. So they created a unique system based on Igbo tenets, but garnished with Bini flamboyance. For example, the Monarchy in Onitsha doesn't go from father to son. It moves from one rulling house to the other, unlike Bini that moves from father to son. The Title of the king is Obi and Igwe,both Igbo royalty titles, and not Oba or Ogie, as found among Edoid and Yoruboid races. The King is not the owner of the land. He is a bit ceremonial. The land belongs to families as obtainable in Igboland. There are also the Ofo and Ogu institution of ancient Igbos and the Nze na Ozo council. You will be stupid if you think Onicha Monarchy is same as Bini's. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 11:01am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:I am not talking about a few sellout/mercenaries, I'm talking about conquistadors. No kingdom on earth ever survived black conquistadors. That was Europeans defeated and annihilated kingdoms in the Americas. Tell black conquistadors that there's riches hidden in this Palace, capture the king and all the gold and bronze will be yours and watch them annihilate a full kingdom. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 11:05am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:the initial system of governance prior to the Oba dynasty moved from house to house. What were igbos doing in far away ile ife? If that account were true why aren't there native Igbos in ife like we have Ikas here? That whole story does not even make an iota of sense 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:10am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Exponential101: You are not okay upstairs. Bini was overrun by Biafra in days too. Your fat old Oba was a sitting duck and ran away to the bush like a coward without putting up a fight when the British rolled in the Maxim guns at Bini. The war lasted for just a day. The fat unfit old man ran into the bush, instead of him to reorganize his people and fight back, he came back from the bush to hand himself to the British. Even offering to give his silver and gold to the British to buy his own freedom and become British stooge. What a disgrace and shame. In contrast, Aros defended Arochukwu for full 4 days under same British Maxim guns, because they were more organized and sophisticated, they had men of skills who fashioned local guns, something Bini lack. All they know to do was fall down on the floor like men without brains shouting "Oba gha tokpe" to their old fat king. Mtchew. And when Arochukwu town fell, the people regrouped and continued fighting. And mind you, Aros have a king, he is called Eze Aro, but in real time, he was just a priest king and not a dictator who dictated to anyone. Let me tell you, you lots were primitive and cannot measure to Igbos weather in the ancient or present. That we normally mind our business about your ancient fables and let you lie to yourselves about imaginary glory, doesn't mean we don't Know the truth. Ask around, in my part of Igboland, "Akuko Idu n'Oba" is an ancient way of saying "fairy tales and fables". Ancient Igbos are aware of Oba people penchant for fairy tales, concocted stories and fables, we make jest of it within our homes, but we are repectable and decent enough not to come out in public to make jest of you guys about your fat Obas worship and all that we find retarded and foolish. We are only doing so now because you have refused to mind your business. You are pokenosing into our own business. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by tommy589(m): 11:13am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Very interesting thread |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nostradamus1: 11:16am On Jul 24, 2021 |
jimyjames:What is the difference between this behavior and that of a terrorist Fulani herdsman? Always claiming what u don't own 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:20am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: If igbos told tales of the Oba of Benin’s exploits, is it not possible that some of it is true? Remember these tales were brought by igbos who escaped from the raids or who have seen the different culture first hand. It is very easy for the hinterland igbos to discredit the tales since they have not stepped out of their communes. If you have not had exposure to the europeans till today, if someone came and told you the europeans have cars and aero planes and mobile phones, wont you say its still same akuko idu na oba tales? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Oharina(m): 12:10pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee:He meant fairy-tale |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
YungMillionaire:You can see the great minds in the classical exclusive bronze works, in the civilized way we lived back then, when your progenitors were still walking around naked, we built structures, defences(Benin moat) etc, built an Empire that stretches down to Dahomey, streets paved with lights, built soldiers that pushed back the fulani jihadists, conquered territories, we did all these thousands of years ago. Intellectual intelligence is not all about writing books. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
bomb24:Your fore fathers were running around naked in the bush, when our Empire was colonizing towns, enslaving box heads like you, and collecting passage levies. Y'all are dumb and clownish as always, you people never have nothing intelligent in those box heads of yours. Talking trash. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:04pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: Wait , where the Obi of Onicha say Onicha was founded by Bini people (people of Bini ancestry) ? And , do you even know the history and traditions of Onicha ? Of course , Onicha borrowed Bini titles like Iyasele , Esogba/Ozoma etc but their traditions and naming styles are 99.9% Igbo. Their shrines are Igbo shrines. You can't win this because the evidence is too great 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:07pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
distributeinc: You meant you build tarred roads and electric lights....lmao You savaged were beheading babbies for human sacrifices. After the British invation all your shrines were littered with human heads of innocent virgins and babies....my God , you people are cursed!! But Igbo made more sophisticated metal work than Bini. Isn't that so ? Where is your Emeagwali Where is your Kanu Where is your Okocha Chimamanda Okonjo Achebe Pius Okigbo 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:12pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
distributeinc: You were terrorizing little Edoid tribes. You should have ventured into Anioma....lmao 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
IDENNAA:I don't do bragging, but you must know that they are several other people across the world that has done Nigeria proud, who are from other tribes and parts of the country, and not only popular people do great things, if you go through Nigerian history you will see names of various people of various tribes doing big things, I dont need to be mentioning names, no point...I think at this junction, we can agree to disagree. excerpts from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Benin Fortifications were important in the region and numerous military campaigns fought by Benin's soldiers revolved around sieges. As noted above, Benin's military earthworks are the largest of such structures in the world, and Benin's rivals also built extensively. Barring a successful assault, most sieges were resolved by a strategy of attrition, slowly cutting off and starving out the enemy fortification until it capitulated. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 1:15pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
IDENNAA:The empire stretched to Lagos, all the way to Dahomey. These are list of Empires in West Africa. No ibo Empire, so that solves the argument. The ancient and medieval Mediterranean might have been a bustling stage of ever-changing empires but, across the inhospitable barrier of the Sahara Desert, West Africans were equally busy building up and toppling down their own kingdoms and empires. With wealth gained from vast herds of livestock, natural resources such as salt and gold, and control of trade routes, several states were able to conquer their less affluent and militarily-weaker neighbours to forge impressive empires. In this collection, we examine the big three of the Ghana Empire, Mali Empire, and Songhai Empire as well as the lucrative trade connections they made with West and North Africa. We also look at the important kingdoms of the southern coast of West Africa such as Nok, Benin, and Ife, and especially the art they produced which continues to wow museum visitors around the world. As the commercial tentacles of West African states extended so, too, they came under the influence of Islam as great trade cities arose like Timbuktu. This is from a trusted source https://www.worldhistory.org/collection/61/the-empires-of-west-africa/ 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:34pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Walkee: People migrate according to economic changes. If your area of settlement become uninhabitable you will move and find a better location. I am from a town next to Onicha and our culture are like 90% similar yet we are Nri-Awka cultured people. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
doublewisdom: Laugh..Bros, I don’t know where you are from but if you are from loins of ezechima. You are from bini |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:45pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
ejibaba: Says who ? Who taught you that ? |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
IDENNAA: I just taught you because I’m from there. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 1:57pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
ejibaba: Where are you from ? I am from Idemmili , Anambra. Let the game begin. What made you think Ndi Onicha have Bini ancestry 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 2:05pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
distributeinc: Nok was not a kingdom or empire. It was the oldest civilization in Nigeria and one of the earliest in West Africa followed by Igbo civilization with Sophisticated metal casting, the oldest of its kind in West Africa. How ignorant of you to mention Nok and by pass Igboukwu which came directly after Nok. Igboukwu predate Yoruba and Benin. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Etinosa1234: 2:05pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
They are a tribe who don't have a leader and are Republican but they have monarchical system that is of the same pattern with the Benin who they regard as inferior One day, we'll talk abt if the Igbos were completely Republican as they say 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Etinosa1234: 2:07pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
No man born of a woman ventured into Igbo land and made it out alive.. but they hate Gowon for wetin he use their grandparents eyes see 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Etinosa1234: 2:13pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
The capital of Aro fell in 5 days... The capital of Benin kingdom fell in 10 days.. But the way the Igbos chest beat, u'll think it took the British 20 years to get to their capital Besides.. after the capital fell, there was also resistance from all other parts of the kingdom including the esans See link below https://www.nairaland.com/6664299/benin-didnt-fall-under-weeks 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Boudiccao: See the link, it's not my compilation, I know you people are dumb. This is from a neutral source...they list the most significant kingdoms/empires, if you are not on the list, then you were not significant. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 2:33pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
distributeinc: There is nothing like neutral source here and the authors are not incapable of making mistakes. If you were not dumb yourself,you should have known that Nok is the oldest civilization(not empire) in Nigeria followed by Igbo civilization. You can't talk about civilization of the Niger area without getting to Igboukwu immediately after Nok. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by bomb24: 2:42pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
aribisala0: u confidently spilled trash. wtf is ibom dynasty? do u know the meaning of ibom.? the ruling house of arochukwu has always been okenachi dynasty an igbo family. the akampas where just mare allies who supplied guns and foot soldiers to the aros like every other clan did wich were under the arochukwu confederacy. And was has emotions got to do with this thread? why do u yolobas always sound foolish when facts are being tabled on ground during discussions like this, when u lots can't counter or debunk claims u lots begin to run like dogs on hit saying " igbos are too emotional and all other bullshit." Ariana and co must have really caused you pain with the way they were able to handle this discussion. 2 Likes |
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