jesusjnr2020:
Was Jesus A failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed?

Jesus was Someone who prioritized the preaching the Word of the Spirit which quickens and gives life, over the word of the flesh which profits nothing but death. John 6:63, 12:49-50.

This made Him lose many disciples at some point of His ministry, as they were said to have left Him and never walked with Him again because of the Word which He preached. John 6:60, 66.

Hence He was left with just a few disciples because of His determination to keep preaching Word of the Spirit despite that it made the many disciples go away, and not the word of the flesh which would have made them remain with Him.

So was Jesus a failure as a result?

Was He unfruitful?

That's what most church leaders of the present would say, because they are quantity-oriented, not quality-oriented as Jesus was, hence they'd rather preach the words of the flesh which profits nothing to attract and keep the crowd with them, not the Words of the Spirit that gives eternal life, which may make many of them leave as those many disciples of Jesus did, but wisdom is justified of her children, even the few that remained with Him because of the Words which He spoke.

Hence Jesus built may have been lacking in quantity but it was full of spiritual quality, while today's church is full of quantity but lacking in spiritual quality.

That's the spiritual quality which the early church had that today's church leaders have traded for quantity.

The results speak for themselves.

God bless.

MejiLoyon:
You headline is disrespectful. Thunder suppose don fire you by now.

psucc:
Why the fuss about Oyedepo's sacking of some Pastors over their "unfruitfulness"?

And why compare with Our Lord Jesus? Sometimes, if not for bloodshed, I don't blame Islam for stoning people over blasphemy.

Read ya Bible. Those were the "given" ones.

Monogamy:
Nobody is born perfect including Jesus...

The headline though

nams77:

Jesus was perfect. EOD

jesusjnr2020:
If Jesus was here the likes of you would have stoned Him because you're no different from the Pharisees of His day who tried to do same to Him.

Monogamy:


Hell No.. He had anger issue actually...

Dtruthspeaker:


You follow see the horrible heading?

truespeak:


No He did not.

He reacted as any right thinking person would, under the circumstances.

So that does not qualify as anger issues.

Ishilove:
Mscheeeew. Idiotic headline, wrong priorities.

truespeak:


Mtchewwww!

Monogamy:


By destroying the table of those that were drinking and having fun just cos it was in contrary with his belief? Abi why was he arrested?

truespeak:


If you were to come to your house, a house of Holiness, Peace and Rest, a Place Sanctified and Revered to find that it had been turned into a house of Drunkards, Prostituting, a Market, an Animal house, shall you not be vexed? and shall you not be Justified if you evict them therefrom?

You Surely Shall!

Monogamy:


The op only made the headline to be sensational, the contents are different

Monogamy:


But the person I am responding to said Jesus is perfect, can a perfect person vexed?

truespeak:


But of course, it is Reasonable, Normal and Right to be vexed, when vexed.

Perfection is not the Absence of Right and Normal conduct .

It is rather the Presence of Right, Reasonable and Normal conduct, which is carried out and observed by the Perfect, At All Times.

The Christ Conduct Himself Rightly, Reasonably and Beyond Reasonable Reproach At All Times?


Yes He did!

Therefore He is Perfect!

But of course, it is Reasonable, Normal and Right to be vexed, when vexed

Therefore He is Perfect!

jesusjnr2020:
Don't worry about her. She's only using the headline to disguise her main grouse.

By the way, your comments confuse me. You seem not to believe in Jesus or am I wrong?

Monogamy:


I heard about Jesus story, read some of his stories..

He is popular. I don't understand what you mean by believe

AntiChristian:
Jesus was said to choose 12.

One betrayed him.

Jesus had to appoint an emergency Paul to right his mistake.

Paul allegedly wrote 13 out of 27 books of the new testament even more than all the former appointed disciples together!

Monogamy:






My friend, you are contradicting yourself..

Abi the word perfect get another meaning for your dictionary?

truespeak:


Because you can not answer, you totally ignore my explanation and do a cut and join

For you thought it abnormal that a normal response like anger when a person is angered made a person not perfect but now you know the Truth!

My job is done!

truespeak:


Not True for every Christ Follower knows, Judas was no mistake!

As to Paul, it is only natural that being a Law-er, he has the Law and can talk about the Law, All Day Long, thus no surprise there!

Monogamy:


What's the meaning of righteousness? What's the basic meaning of " Perfect "?

Monogamy:


How can you be perfect and still have anger issue which you deliberately referred to as vexed