mrvitalis:

The contract was signed and everything paid

Ovamboland:


Any league of dummies in Nigeria.

Why do you think one of the first projects by the British colonial master in 1890's was rail projects, even before they conquered the whole Nigeria.

What those 19th century adventurers saw, you are yet to comprehend in 21st century. Even a cow herder understand it. What the British built served us for up to 100 years.


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▶️⏩Stop displaying the shallow one
track mind common to many people
on NL.

The British built railways primarily to
link centres or areas of production of
agriculture & mineral commodities to
the coast, because that is where the real
money or revenue lies, moving large
quantities goods at minimal costs. Tin & columbite from J, coal from Enugu, groundnuts from Kano, hides & skins from Nguru.

Conveying passengers was secondary.
Today, railways have become areas of
scoring cheap political points.
Any rail network in Nigeria aimed
primarily at moving passengers will
eventually fail. Abuja to Kaduna is
already half dead.


You may also be ignorant of the fact
that their were no motorable roads linking
the South to north at the time, so, building
railways was the only way out.

It doesn't make real economic sense
making railways linking West to Eastern
Nigeria if Lagos, Warri & PH ports are
made functional.

If people importers & exporters in
the East begin using a functional PH port,
then what is the need for west to east
rail link?◀️⏪
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There was a PhD holder president who rather financed private jets acquisition, luxury yatch purchase etc when cash was flowing rather than start a project like this in his region. Now all those jets have been sold off at giveaway, yatch seized.
Who get sense between cow herder and PhD holder?

mrvitalis:

Tcn is the issue not generation u don't understand the problem

GDP of $500 billion is useless with the world poorest GDP to budget ratio ...we have the worst on Earth ....what's the point of GDP when u can't tax anything from it

Temptee101:
Rotimi Amaechi is one of the most richest politicians cum thieves currently in the country.

The amount of billions under his control is staggering and mind-blogging.

After siphoning Rivers state treasury for 8 years and now chairing a juicy ministry like transport for another 8 years.

Ovamboland:


Same people who opposed increase in VAT from 5% to 7.5% are now using tax collection to win argument.

Let tax net get widened and new tax introduced now, they will be the first to cry.

obailala:

The rate at which everyone just becomes overnight experts in developmental economics is baffling. The coastal railway will connect all seaports in Nigeria but according to you guys, seaports are important but a railway to ferry bulk goods to the seaport is an IDIOTIC idea? Wow!

Ovamboland:


You are a mere PDP apologist, stop pretending to be an activist. There's nothing APC will do that will satisfy you. If they do everything you listed exactly you will still condemn it and say they should have invested in Lagos calabar rail instead

mrvitalis:

U people and this attract foreign investors lmao ..they invest $10m and take $100 million out of the economy

Ovamboland:


The same foreign investors you people celebrate have stopped coming have suddenly become useless and not needed?

This your own opposition is flip flop

Fahdiga:
Approver that will only end on paper

adecz:

Jimasun:

Mehn.. This is so backward in thought.
Government should not do long term projects because the next government can abandon it? Are you fro real?
Ever heard of long term planning?

obailala:
In that case, the FG should just be building only classroom blocks and patching highways cos more serious projects typically span several tenures.

TruthinAction:


I didn't say so. They have eight years in office. They should start long term project earlier and not at the tail end.

Fahdiga:
Approver that will only end on paper

TruthinAction:


I didn't say so. They have eight years in office. They should start long term project earlier and not at the tail end.

obailala:

Long term projects that will be completed in 8 years?... Bro, real big projects typically take longer; the only way feats like that can be achieved, especially in an infrastructurally deficit and poor nation like ours is 'continuity'.

Big projects require big planning, and coupled with the excruciating bureaucracy the Nigerian system is plagued with, it's virtually impossible for a new president to get into office and start a major project immediately (regardless of how eager the president is to bring the project to life). In effect, the first 2 - 3 years will be used for planning, and the remaining years for execution. Even in other parts of the world, when you hear construction of a huge project started and finished in say 3 years, what they dont tel you is that planning was going on for 5 years prior to that.

In the anigerian case, besides the fact that there would typically be paucity of funds (cos many other critical projects are competing for the same limited budget), many other inevitable factors delay huge projects. Even Dangote who is a private establishment and who isnt plagued with the typical govt bureaucracies or paucity of funds, has been trying to complete a single refinery since 2012.

In a nutshell, what I'm trying to say is that the only way mega projects can be completed is through continuity.

Ovamboland:


You are not aware the country suffered financial crisis due to the collapse and continues decline of the source of income starting from mid 2014?

Ovamboland:


And after 100 years as a country you dont see the need for goods and services produced in the West to reach the East efficiently and vice versa?

The situation in 1900 is logical, British don't care about East West trade, but is that still the case now, we should not care too?

TruthinAction:


You are a novice in Nigeria politics. When the they first award the East - West road? Has it been completed till date. There are no projects that can't be completed within eight years period. It all depends on the manpower and capital investment in it.

Besides, is it our priority now? All our refineries are down. The power sector is not working. The level of insecurity is something else. If we have that much money, why not invest it on these areas I just mentioned?

The earlier you know that these set of politicians don't have your interest at heart, the better for you. They are just looking for ways to make money out of most of these projects. What happened to the Ajaokuta steel complex? When was it started? Has it been completed till date.

obailala:
Huh.. What exactly are you talking about? You're beginning to sound like someone ranting inconsistently and losing focus. What do you mean by political novice? You want bridges to be built overnight?

I told you that large projects take time and money and great political will; the examples you gave (i.e. Ajaokuta plant, East west road, power projects, Lagos Ibadan road etc) are all very sound examples to buttress the point I made to you earlier about big projects needing time, massive funds and political will, but that was just too much for you to comprehend wasn't it?

Nigeria desperately needs infrastructure in form of roads, rails, refineries, power plants, upgrade of power transmission and distribution infrastructure, hospitals, education etc. Contrary to what you might be thinking, these projects are all important and need to be developed concurrently, and since the money to complete them all isn't readily available upfront, it invariably means the projects will be executed slowly. Point being made is that major projects span different tenures.

TruthinAction:


You still don't know where you are. Your government doesn't have your interest at heart. If they do, our refineries would have been working by now to full capacity.

You are talking about building infrastructure when old ones they started are being abandoned. I am not against infrastructural development but let's maintain and complete the ones we have first. They should fix the power issue and declare a state of emergency in both security and Petroleum Industry.

Our youths are into banditory and other criminal acts because there are no jobs and foreign companies are afraid of investing in this country because of power and insecurity.

Michelin left Nigeria for Ghana because of power issue. The same with Dunlop. How long are we going to continue.

Our leaders are thieves. They will not give priority to what should be given priority but do only those things they will get a lot of gains from.

obailala:
Hmm... You've been repeating this statement over and over again "Govt doesnt have you interest at heart" and I keep wondering, what's the relevance / connection between this statement and what I said about 'large projects spanning longer time periods'? Or did I directly or indirectly mention or imply anywhere that the govt had your interest? Is that what we're talking about? Why do you keep repeating the statement to me?

Thank God these are written (not spoken) conversations. Please kindly point out where I mentioned in any of my statements that govt should start new projects and abandon old ones? Last time I checked, I've been hammering it to you that the only way major critical economically viable projects can be completed is through continuity, i.e. the new govt taking over and continuing / completing old projects initiated by their predecessors. You see why I say you're being inconsistent?

You keep insisting govt should focus on important issues like power and security; but whilst power is important, it does not water down the importance of having a robust road or rail infrastructure, and neither do these invalidate the urgent need for a revamp in the educational and health sector. You cant expect everything else to be abandoned while govt is working on power.

Even a toddler in Nigeria knows our leaders are thieves, but like I mentioned above, the need for functional power infrastructure does not invalidate the need for a robust transportation sector. Meanwhile talking about the rails, this is actually one sector the leaders can't exactly steal from cos the loan funds for the rails (unlike every other sector) is not passing through the hands of Nigerian politicians. So what exactly is your case?

mrvitalis:

The contract was signed and everything paid