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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Nobody: 10:27am On Aug 17, 2021
Ofunaofu:


That it worked in GSM sector, is not a guarantee that it will work in petroleum sector.
Okay, let use the desiel for example, it has been deregulated but the price yet to come down. Nigeria is one country that basic economic principles don't seem to work in.
Hmmmm well, I am here to learn

Because
1.Petrol still has not been deregulated
2.The sector is still losing lots of money as a result.
3.Because of no deregulation and price controls people cannot build refineries.
4.NNPC Is spending all its money that isn't earmarked for salaries to subsidies fuel..meaning, until recently, it cannot fix its refinereis.
5.This leads to poor refining of diesel, meaning more importation, and still higher prices.

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Nobody: 10:28am On Aug 17, 2021
Alexsmith007:
This country u mentioned don't have the oil we have so u should expect price to be very high there

Niger, CHAD , and Cameroon all are oil producers.

Benin too recently discovered oil.
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Kraytur: 10:28am On Aug 17, 2021
Corruption has eaten the economy deep

The lapses of deteriorated funds has started to show

Subsidy is a way of introducing a form of pms tax

And another way to level the field

We produce crude FGS

We should enjoy it’s dividends

And not have to suffer Price hike because of the outcome of corruption by wicked leaders who’ve sucked the economy dry

Spits angry undecided

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Nobody: 10:38am On Aug 17, 2021
Kraytur:
Corruption has eaten the economy deep

The lapses of deteriorated funds has started to show

Subsidy is a way of introducing a form of pms tax

And another way to level the field

We produce crude FGS

We should enjoy it’s dividends

And not have to suffer Price hike because of the outcome of corruption by wicked leaders who’ve sucked the economy dry

Spits angry undecided

Subsidy is not a tax, not as practiced in Nigeria

Basically, a subsidy is what you pay to compensate the oil industry for selling fuel below the cost of what it takes to produce one liter of petrol from crude.

The problem is, overtime the cost of refining fuel rises, meaning you have to pay higher and higher to subsidize it. And no matter how you try you cannot cover the resulting loss. Which is why many countries that subsidies have problems funding refinery repair or new refinery projects (Nigeria, Venezuela and even Iran are good examples)

Here in Nigeria, subsidy comes from the revenue we earn from selling crude oil , which is never high enough for our needs because of our large population. SO we have to use a rising amount of money to pay for subsides, instead of paying for education, health, etc. (The money we spent on subsidy in one year can enroll 1 million Nigerians on NHIS). Meanwhile, falling oil prices make matters worse.

And because we don't have enough refining power at home...because of subsides chopping any money that would have been spent on refineries if there was no subsidy...we keep on pouring even more and more money.

Since 1993, NIgeria has been warned severally to remove subsides. Each time, the people have said no.
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by DukeNija(m): 10:50am On Aug 17, 2021
Beancounter94:


So the goverment should continue spending money on fraudulent subsidy?

So thay we can continue to get into more debt?

And you were told that subsidy plunged this country into debt? Was that what your pay master informed you? Fuel has been subsided in Nigeria since 1973 so it has little to do with our debt profile compared to the kangaroo projects your leader has been borrowing from China to execute in the last 6 years.

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by kepstone: 10:55am On Aug 17, 2021
Oh my God, what kind of foolish step is this, this government, haba, pity people na, i have never benefited from Nigerian government since a child. is it not funny that we are the giant of Africa, we have oil in abundant, we have 3 refineries in Nigeria, yet we cant refine our own fuel, we have to take it outside to refine, then bring back to the country and sell. Well Nigerians start thinking of ways to make your own money.
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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Brushstrokes20: 10:55am On Aug 17, 2021
The only THING worse than buhari is buhari ITSELF!

What the redundant coupist cannot destroy does not exist undecided

Useless govt of self serving THIEVES and BLOODTHIRSTY TERRORISTS.... The shithole is on a cliff edge!

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by blaqtom(m): 10:56am On Aug 17, 2021
amc:


The average Nigerian doesn’t own a car, so we have been subsidising the rich at the expense of the poor who are denied well needed investment in things like education, healthcare and infrastructure.

It will be hard in the short term but the populace would start to see the many benefits in the medium to long term. We are wasting too much scare resources for on this subsidy and there is too much corruption involved with smuggling of our PMS to neighbouring countries where PMS is sold at higher prices.
So average Nigerians nor go enter transport? Or u not aware tfare would increase 200% or more u not aware the cost of food stuff will also increase the reich will be able to afford to live even on 500 per liter...and if smuggling is an excuse what do we have customs for are they not responsible for the borders are we suppose to suffer for their ineffectiveness...if smuggling is the problem deploy more men to the borders.....you don’t even have right to speak for the average Nigerian u probably don’t know what they go through as for the money......they just need more money to loot...if they are sincere they would fix the refinery first....

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Nobody: 10:57am On Aug 17, 2021
DukeNija:


And you were told that subsidy plunged this country into debt? Was that what your pay master informed you? Fuel has been subsided in Nigeria since 1973 so it has little to do with our debt profile compared to the kangaroo projects your leader has been borrowing from China to execute in the last 6 years.

And the prolonged subsidy is why all our refineries eventually broke down

No profit. Any money made was directed to feeding the subsidy monster

Also price controls started in 1973. The actual subsidising kicked off in 1988. That's when we started selling fuel below the price it cost to.produce it

Price controls are not good for any business or corporation. They are like slow release poison.

By the way I never voted for Buhari and my support for subsidy removal dates back to 2011..before then I was like you against removing subsidy

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Lavidalo: 11:10am On Aug 17, 2021
Ahhh

Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by xynerise: 11:12am On Aug 17, 2021
amc:


Standard of living and opportunities are better in Cameroon, Chad, Niger, Benin, Togo etc? Tell us

So that is the level Nigeria is in the world? We now compare with these above countries?
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Joe4real1988(m): 11:14am On Aug 17, 2021
amc:


The volume of car users to the other users is like 80% to 20% in favour of cars. We are mostly subsidising car users.

If we were a rich country, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But Nigeria can’t afford to subsidise petrol anymore until we increase our revenue significantly.

And like I said, the effect would be hard on the populace in the short term but we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term.
I don't wonno doubt you bro, just that adding this to the hardship(induced by this administration) we are passing through, would make the common man wish he was not given birth to. If things were to be working on fine when this comes up, everyone, including me would have shouted for joy upon hearing such news, but now, its like evicting a jobless man by the landlord���

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Chukwumawisdom: 11:19am On Aug 17, 2021
Your got it wrong bro because the poor pay more for PMT directly or indirectly: the poor don't trek to the market, they don't trek to their offices etc . In nigeria if you don't own a vehicle , you're at the mercies of the commercial transporters. The poor need PMT to even charge their phone's battery, and must importantly, once the pump price increases the prices of food items skyrocket times 3 . I don't know where you guys got this rocket science economic ideology.
The Rich in nigeria can alternate between fuel , Soler and diesel why the poor depends solely on fuel. Bro this is nigeria!!! What stop the government from building and revitalizing our refinery?

The average Nigerian doesn’t own a car, so we have been subsidising the rich at the expense of the poor who are denied well needed investment in things like education, healthcare and infrastructure.

It will be hard in the short term but the populace would start to see the many benefits in the medium to long term. We are sting too much scare resources for on this subsidy and there is too much corruption involved with smuggling of our PMS to neighbouring countries where PMS is sold at higher prices. [/quote]

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by mywells: 11:32am On Aug 17, 2021
What do you expect from a president that can not recites his country national anthems.

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by hstar: 11:45am On Aug 17, 2021
Uselessmanna:
Hope the bastard and his second imbecilic nlpolicewoman buys for this amount too.
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by hstar: 11:50am On Aug 17, 2021
ityP:



Lmao. Una sef. Na same nonsense una talk about closing borders o. When will you people have sense? When will you realize that even with subsidy out of the way, the money will still be stolen and eaten by politicians, all to the detriment of the poor? Guy, suffer no dey tire you? God forbid
He's being paid for what his defending here

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by yemi1504: 11:54am On Aug 17, 2021
Whiteangel1234:
grin grin enjoy the change . how can any sane human being vote for Buhari bikonu ? i'm marvelled

Ask the Yeruba Lag0s slaves and the ab0kis up North o
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by COMPAQ(m): 11:55am On Aug 17, 2021
Nuelito:
we can't compare the standard of living in those countries to that of Nigeria...

There are better opportunities over there than here.

But correct me if am wrong.... am ready to learn from you sir

Is standard of living in Niger, Chad and Cameroon necessarily better than Nigeria? How are they able to afford N350 petrol?
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Kraytur: 11:59am On Aug 17, 2021
Beancounter94:


Subsidy is not a tax, not as practiced in Nigeria

Basically, a subsidy is what you pay to compensate the oil industry for selling fuel below the cost of what it takes to produce one liter of petrol from crude.

The problem is, overtime the cost of refining fuel rises, meaning you have to pay higher and higher to subsidize it. And no matter how you try you cannot cover the resulting loss. Which is why many countries that subsidies have problems funding refinery repair or new refinery projects (Nigeria, Venezuela and even Iran are good examples)

Here in Nigeria, subsidy comes from the revenue we earn from selling crude oil , which is never high enough for our needs because of our large population. SO we have to use a rising amount of money to pay for subsides, instead of paying for education, health, etc. (The money we spent on subsidy in one year can enroll 1 million Nigerians on NHIS). Meanwhile, falling oil prices make matters worse.

And because we don't have enough refining power at home...because of subsides chopping any money that would have been spent on refineries if there was no subsidy...we keep on pouring even more and more money.

Since 1993, NIgeria has been warned severally to remove subsides. Each time, the people have said no.


Good response but you seem to have left out the bad economy and the corruption


More to say how tf did we get here

And what can be done angry

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by hstar: 12:02pm On Aug 17, 2021
Joe4real1988:
Bro let me ask you, is it only car that uses fuel? How about Okada(T.F will increase), keke(T.F will increase), Salon(price will increase). Bro the effect is not gonno be only on car owners, but on all of us. Reason am na.
They are all the same thing,
Anyone u see defending the government blindly here, whether the government implemented policy affects the masses or causes hardship.

Whoever u see here defending them here, is one of the paid agents.

And we have them here, numberless of them

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by yemi1504: 12:06pm On Aug 17, 2021
philip0906:


You zombies don't think. The average Nigerian doesn't own a car BUT every Nigerian has a generator that needs to be powered by fuel as we provide electricity for ourselves.


Tell me one policy implemented by this worthless regime that has ever worked, short term or long term? The government shutdown borders because they claimed PMS was smuggled. How did that work? Aside a hike in commodities and inflation, what other benefit did that thoughtless policy yield? You're still talking about PMS being smuggled, when border was shut down for almost a year.

Keep fooling yourselves.

Not only that about the zombies not knowing subsidy removal affects that, the food that is already expensive and transportation to move around will become more expensive but they won't be affected by the latter anyway since most of them are kuku j0bless!
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by hstar: 12:11pm On Aug 17, 2021
blinking001:

Speaking from an economic point of view you're totally wrong. Can't you see that this single act by the government can lead to inflation? Who suffers most when there's inflation?
The masses
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Emekus999(m): 12:24pm On Aug 17, 2021
Okoroawusa:

So the standard of living in Niger, Chad, Benin Republic is higher than in Nigeria?
you're actually comparing Nigeria with those country?
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Nobody: 12:24pm On Aug 17, 2021
Kraytur:


Good response but you seem to have left out the bad economy and the corruption


More to say how tf did we get here

And what can be done angry

Nigeria has a bad economy because we sell our resources rather than use them to make industrial products we can export.

Has been that way since independence.

The problem with that is that the price for our resources is always not high enough to earn a revenue that can sustain us, which is why we end up taking loans (and we have been taking loans for decades.)..when the price is too low to sustain us.

Running an economy selling raw materials encourages people to use the revenue to import...meaning not enough industries...meaning job creation is bad, meaning that people compete for the very limited government jobs available (which is why we have so much inordinate focus on which tribe gets which jobs from the lowest to highest...and why we have federal character)

As for corruption, when the money from governance is not coming directly from taxes...but from selling the resources and sharing the money, he who controls the sharing of the money has a lot of power...which explains our civil war , two failed attempts at democracy, the bad religious crisis, the ethnotribal crisis, and even the class war. And a lot of corruption. And a lot of the fighting for president, governor, even local dog catcher. It also explains why hundreds of people died and were displaced in 2011, why we had two pogroms in 1966, and before that why the South west was burning in 1965...because he who controls the sharing controls a lot of things...including who benfits from the crumbs.

That's why someone like me does not like APC, PDP, or any of the parties, or the power brokers in Nigeria. They are not ready to change the current way we do things. Even when it was clear it wasn't working.

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Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by latiephwald(m): 12:27pm On Aug 17, 2021
Okoroawusa:

So the standard of living in Niger, Chad, Benin Republic is higher than in Nigeria?

So disappointed you could compare Nigeria to those countries.
Imagine a country of over 200m population with massive Natural resources etc
Compare Nigeria with some European and developed American countries
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by blinking001(m): 12:31pm On Aug 17, 2021
hstar:

The masses
Gbamsolutely
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Okoroawusa: 12:39pm On Aug 17, 2021
saintruky:



Bros those countries u quote get refineries? Abi dem get oil?
There are countries with refineries and oil yet they don't subsidize fuel for their citizens
Re: Buhari Signing Of PIB: Petrol May Sell For N300, FG To Decide On Subsidy Today by Okoroawusa: 12:42pm On Aug 17, 2021
Beancounter94:


Nigeria has a bad economy because we sell our resources rather than use them to make industrial products we can export.

Has been that way since independence.

The problem with that is that the price for our resources is always not high enough to earn a revenue that can sustain us, which is why we end up taking loans (and we have been taking loans for decades.)..when the price is too low to sustain us.

Running an economy selling raw materials encourages people to use the revenue to import...meaning not enough industries...meaning job creation is bad, meaning that people compete for the very limited government jobs available (which is why we have so much inordinate focus on which tribe gets which jobs from the lowest to highest...and why we have federal character)

As for corruption, when the money from governance is not coming directly from taxes...but from selling the resources and sharing the money, he who controls the sharing of the money has a lot of power...which explains our civil war , two failed attempts at democracy, the bad religious crisis, the ethnotribal crisis, and even the class war. And a lot of corruption. And a lot of the fighting for president, governor, even local dog catcher. It also explains why hundreds of people died and were displaced in 2011, why we had two pogroms in 1966, and before that why the South west was burning in 1965...because he who controls the sharing controls a lot of things...including who benfits from the crumbs.

That's why someone like me does not like APC, PDP, or any of the parties, or the power brokers in Nigeria. They are not ready to change the current way we do things. Even when it was clear it wasn't working.
But Buhari has now taken the bull by the horn. He needs our support

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