MrMacinterchi1:

I share same thought with you. and that happens when the person is baptized.

But, born again is the tactics of New generation church for soul hurting and it's working for them.

Exactly

Renman:
Keep talking from your head!!! Open your bible and read:-


"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and Forsaketh them shall have Mercy." Proverbs 28:13

LOL, did this place say you're born again? Uncle wey know Bible. If I start showing you scriptures now, even your pastor no go fit wait.

Before I school you, you must prove you at least have some very basic understanding of the Bible. Tell me the identities of those Jesus Christ was talking about in John 10:16 and I will show you how it's connected to those who God birthed again.

I'm waiting pastor Oga

Depending on how methodical you want to be, which I don't think amounts to anything.

Because it is a definite experience that starts a divine relationship with you, you would always remember it. The DAY is unforgettable.

But the DATE is quite forgettable, especially if you don't note it anywhere. I don't know of the first century Christians who kept dates on which they were born again. However, their experiences which remained with them were always related to us. That's what you need.

Thank you, Jesus.

❤❤❤❤

AntiChristian:
Even Jesus was not born again!

These Christians sha!

Antichrist! You are not a Christian neither do you understand Christianity.


I put to you of all special privileges of your prophet you blindly follow shows Islam is a scam.

One of Islam’s premiere Muslim commentators, al-Qurtubi, enumerates the privileges Allah gave Muhammad. The following is taken from the Commentary of al-Qurtubi on Surah 33:50. All bold and capital emphasis ours.

And any believing woman who dedicates herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed (Nikah) her; this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large).

As for what was granted and made lawful (by Allah) to the prophet –pbuh– they are 16 issues:-

First: To be fair with the spoils.

Second: To (forcefully) take a fifth of a fifth or just a fifth (of the spoils of war).

Third: "Al Wisal" (Dimitrius- the fast or fasting. This usually refers to fasting or abstaining from food.)

Fourth: To take more than four women.

Fifth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih" (or have sexual intercourse), with a woman who dedicates herself to the prophet).

Sixth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," (or have sexual intercourse)without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian.

Seventh: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," without a dowry.

Eighth: To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification.

Ninth: The annulment of an oath he may make to his wives.

Tenth: If Muhammad looks at a woman (and desires her) THEN IT IS NECESSARY FOR HER HUSBAND TO DIVORCE HER AND FOR MUHAMMAD TO MARRY HER.

Ibn Al A’raby said, "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning."

Eleventh: That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry.

Twelfth: To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification.

Thirteenth: To fight in Mecca.

Fourteenth: That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as is evidenced in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam.

Fifteenth: His marriage is still considered effective after his death.

Sixteenth: If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married, "Nikah," to someone else.
"Yas-tan-kih" comes from the word "Yan’kah." For it is said in different forms "Nakaha" and "Istan-kaha" just as it is said "Ajab" and "Ista-jab"… It is permissible to use the word, "Istan-kaha," to mean one whom requests marriage or one who requests sexual intercourse.

Original Arabic text:

وَأَمَّا مَا أُحِلَّ لَهُ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَجُمْلَته سِتَّة عَشَرَ : الْأَوَّل : صَفِيّ الْمَغْنَم . الثَّانِي : الِاسْتِبْدَاد بِخُمُسِ الْخُمُس أَوْ الْخُمُس . الثَّالِث : الْوِصَال . الرَّابِع : الزِّيَادَة عَلَى أَرْبَع نِسْوَة . الْخَامِس : النِّكَاح بِلَفْظِ الْهِبَة . السَّادِس : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ وَلِيّ . السَّابِع : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ صَدَاق . الثَّامِن : نِكَاحه فِي حَالَة الْإِحْرَام . التَّاسِع : سُقُوط الْقَسْم بَيْن الْأَزْوَاج عَنْهُ , وَسَيَأْتِي . الْعَاشِر : إِذَا وَقَعَ بَصَره عَلَى اِمْرَأَة وَجَبَ عَلَى زَوْجهَا طَلَاقهَا , وَحَلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحهَا . قَالَ اِبْن الْعَرَبِيّ : هَكَذَا قَالَ إِمَام الْحَرَمَيْنِ , وَقَدْ مَضَى مَا لِلْعُلَمَاءِ فِي قِصَّة زَيْد مِنْ هَذَا الْمَعْنَى . الْحَادِيَ عَشَرَ : أَنَّهُ أَعْتَقَ صَفِيَّة وَجَعَلَ عِتْقهَا صَدَاقهَا . الثَّانِي عَشَرَ : دُخُول مَكَّة بِغَيْرِ إِحْرَام , وَفِي حَقّنَا فِيهِ اِخْتِلَاف . الثَّالِث عَشَر : الْقِتَال بِمَكَّة . الرَّابِع عَشَر : أَنَّهُ لَا يُورَث . وَإِنَّمَا ذُكِرَ هَذَا فِي قِسْم التَّحْلِيل لِأَنَّ الرَّجُل إِذَا قَارَبَ الْمَوْت بِالْمَرَضِ زَالَ عَنْهُ أَكْثَرُ مِلْكه , وَلَمْ يَبْقَ لَهُ إِلَّا الثُّلُث خَالِصًا , وَبَقِيَ مِلْك رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلَى مَا تَقَرَّرَ بَيَانه فِي آيَة الْمَوَارِيث , وَسُورَة " مَرْيَم " بَيَانه أَيْضًا . الْخَامِسَة عَشَر : بَقَاء زَوْجِيَّته مِنْ بَعْد الْمَوْت . السَّادِس عَشَر : إِذَا طَلَّقَ اِمْرَأَة تَبْقَى حُرْمَته عَلَيْهَا فَلَا تُنْكَح .

" أَنْ يَسْتَنْكِحهَا " أَيْ يَنْكِحهَا , يُقَال : نَكَحَ وَاسْتَنْكَحَ , مِثْل عَجِبَ وَاسْتَعْجَبَ , وَعَجِلَ وَاسْتَعْجَلَ . وَيَجُوز أَنْ يَرِد الِاسْتِنْكَاح بِمَعْنَى طَلَب النِّكَاح , أَوْ طَلَب الْوَطْء .



I asked you to debate Christian Prince, he is an Arab. Zealots like you, sheikhs are leaving Islam for his understanding of Islam.
Stop your nonsense on Nairaland!

MightySparrow:


Antichrist! You are not a Christian neither do you understand Christianity.


I put to you of all special privileges of your prophet you blindly follow shows Islam is a scam.

One of Islam’s premiere Muslim commentators, al-Qurtubi, enumerates the privileges Allah gave Muhammad. The following is taken from the Commentary of al-Qurtubi on Surah 33:50. All bold and capital emphasis ours.

And any believing woman who dedicates herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed (Nikah) her; this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large).

As for what was granted and made lawful (by Allah) to the prophet –pbuh– they are 16 issues:-

First: To be fair with the spoils.

Second: To (forcefully) take a fifth of a fifth or just a fifth (of the spoils of war).

Third: "Al Wisal" (Dimitrius- the fast or fasting. This usually refers to fasting or abstaining from food.)

Fourth: To take more than four women.

Fifth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih" (or have sexual intercourse), with a woman who dedicates herself to the prophet).

Sixth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," (or have sexual intercourse)without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian.

Seventh: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," without a dowry.

Eighth: To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification.

Ninth: The annulment of an oath he may make to his wives.

Tenth: If Muhammad looks at a woman (and desires her) THEN IT IS NECESSARY FOR HER HUSBAND TO DIVORCE HER AND FOR MUHAMMAD TO MARRY HER.

Ibn Al A’raby said, "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning."

Eleventh: That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry.

Twelfth: To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification.

Thirteenth: To fight in Mecca.

Fourteenth: That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as is evidenced in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam.

Fifteenth: His marriage is still considered effective after his death.

Sixteenth: If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married, "Nikah," to someone else.
"Yas-tan-kih" comes from the word "Yan’kah." For it is said in different forms "Nakaha" and "Istan-kaha" just as it is said "Ajab" and "Ista-jab"… It is permissible to use the word, "Istan-kaha," to mean one whom requests marriage or one who requests sexual intercourse.

Original Arabic text:

وَأَمَّا مَا أُحِلَّ لَهُ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَجُمْلَته سِتَّة عَشَرَ : الْأَوَّل : صَفِيّ الْمَغْنَم . الثَّانِي : الِاسْتِبْدَاد بِخُمُسِ الْخُمُس أَوْ الْخُمُس . الثَّالِث : الْوِصَال . الرَّابِع : الزِّيَادَة عَلَى أَرْبَع نِسْوَة . الْخَامِس : النِّكَاح بِلَفْظِ الْهِبَة . السَّادِس : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ وَلِيّ . السَّابِع : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ صَدَاق . الثَّامِن : نِكَاحه فِي حَالَة الْإِحْرَام . التَّاسِع : سُقُوط الْقَسْم بَيْن الْأَزْوَاج عَنْهُ , وَسَيَأْتِي . الْعَاشِر : إِذَا وَقَعَ بَصَره عَلَى اِمْرَأَة وَجَبَ عَلَى زَوْجهَا طَلَاقهَا , وَحَلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحهَا . قَالَ اِبْن الْعَرَبِيّ : هَكَذَا قَالَ إِمَام الْحَرَمَيْنِ , وَقَدْ مَضَى مَا لِلْعُلَمَاءِ فِي قِصَّة زَيْد مِنْ هَذَا الْمَعْنَى . الْحَادِيَ عَشَرَ : أَنَّهُ أَعْتَقَ صَفِيَّة وَجَعَلَ عِتْقهَا صَدَاقهَا . الثَّانِي عَشَرَ : دُخُول مَكَّة بِغَيْرِ إِحْرَام , وَفِي حَقّنَا فِيهِ اِخْتِلَاف . الثَّالِث عَشَر : الْقِتَال بِمَكَّة . الرَّابِع عَشَر : أَنَّهُ لَا يُورَث . وَإِنَّمَا ذُكِرَ هَذَا فِي قِسْم التَّحْلِيل لِأَنَّ الرَّجُل إِذَا قَارَبَ الْمَوْت بِالْمَرَضِ زَالَ عَنْهُ أَكْثَرُ مِلْكه , وَلَمْ يَبْقَ لَهُ إِلَّا الثُّلُث خَالِصًا , وَبَقِيَ مِلْك رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلَى مَا تَقَرَّرَ بَيَانه فِي آيَة الْمَوَارِيث , وَسُورَة " مَرْيَم " بَيَانه أَيْضًا . الْخَامِسَة عَشَر : بَقَاء زَوْجِيَّته مِنْ بَعْد الْمَوْت . السَّادِس عَشَر : إِذَا طَلَّقَ اِمْرَأَة تَبْقَى حُرْمَته عَلَيْهَا فَلَا تُنْكَح .

" أَنْ يَسْتَنْكِحهَا " أَيْ يَنْكِحهَا , يُقَال : نَكَحَ وَاسْتَنْكَحَ , مِثْل عَجِبَ وَاسْتَعْجَبَ , وَعَجِلَ وَاسْتَعْجَلَ . وَيَجُوز أَنْ يَرِد الِاسْتِنْكَاح بِمَعْنَى طَلَب النِّكَاح , أَوْ طَلَب الْوَطْء .



I asked you to debate Christian Prince, he is an Arab. Zealots like you, sheikhs are leaving Islam for his understanding of Islam.
Stop your nonsense on Nairaland!

Does this explain how Jesus is not a born again?
Please don't be foolish!

ANTIlSLAM:


Shey you know the meaning of Born again sha? Had it been your paedophile messenger was born again, he wouldn't have died such a miserable death

So Jesus, Samson and John the Baptist had a miserable death because they were not born again?

Your parents/teachers really did a good job on your IQ!

Your lack of intelligence is even greater than that of the illiterate "propeht" Sex Award Winner (SAW) that you admire so much.

AntiChristian:


So Jesus, Samson and John the Baptist had a miserable death because they were not born again?

Your parents/teachers really did a good job on your IQ!

Why would God need to be born again? Your idiot child rapist "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW) may have misunderstood Christian doctrine and theology because he was an illiterate camel herdsman whose simple mind cannot comprehend complexity, but you don't have to be as dumb as he was.

AntiChristian:


Does this explain how Jesus is not a born again?
Please don't be foolish!

cutecommend:
Knowing the actual date of ones salvation is not a compulsory proof of salvation but it's essential.

Not essential, unless you don't understand the meaning of the word!

AntiChristian:


So Jesus, Samson and John the Baptist had a miserable death because they were not born again?

Your parents/teachers really did a good job on your IQ!

Jesus, Samson and John you mentioned above are not after little girls toto, a case study of your paedophile messenger that married a 6yr old girl when he was a great grand father at the age of 53yr

Tell your parent/teachers to send your back to Ile Kewu, you need adequate IQ

ANTIlSLAM:


Jesus, Samson and John you mentioned above are not after little girls toto, a case study of your paedophile messenger that married a 6yr old girl when he was a great grand father at the age of 53yr

Tell your parent/teachers to send your back to Ile Kewu, you need adequate IQ

How does someone need adequate IQ? Do you even know the meaning of IQ?

How old where the virgins Yahweh told Moses to keep for the warriors after killing all their families?

AntiChristian:


How does someone need adequate IQ? Do you even know the meaning of IQ?

How old where the virgins Yahweh told Moses to keep for the warriors after killing all their families?

You've said it all, for the warriors and not for himself unlike your late grandpa, messenger muhammad that married Aishat when she was 6yr of age.

You need a very sound and well equipped ile kewu in Ilorin

ANTIlSLAM:


You've said it all, for the warriors and not for himself unlike your late grandpa, messenger muhammad that married Aishat when she was 6yr of age.

You need a very sound and well equipped ile kewu in Ilorin

See low IQ o! Was Moses not the leader of the warriors?

AntiChristian:


See low IQ o! Was Moses not the leader of the warriors?

I've warned you severely here to stop arguing blindly. Those virgins are not 6yr of age unlike the case of Aishat that her great grand father husband, messenger Muhammad married and had sex with her when she was 6yr and 9yr of age respectively

ANTIlSLAM:


I've warned you severely here to stop arguing blindly. Those virgins are not 6yr of age unlike the case of Aishat that her great grand father husband, messenger Muhammad married and had sex with her when she was 6yr and 9yr of age respectively

Bring their ages make we see! No dey tell lies na!

AntiChristian:


Bring their ages make we see! No dey tell lies na!

Look at this man, who brought this up? Go back and read the whole chapter you will see by yourself if they are 6 or 9yr of age of below and stop disgracing Aishat and her late great grandfather husband here pls

ANTIlSLAM:


Look at this man, who brought this up? Go back and read the whole chapter you will see by yourself if they are 6 or 9yr of age of below and stop disgracing Aishat and her late great grandfather husband here pls

I have checked well Your God said in the verse "kill everyone and leave only the virgin girls alive!"

So how old are they?

And how many are they?

AntiChristian:


I have checked well Your God said in the verse "kill everyone and leave only the virgin girls alive!"

So how old are they?

And how many are they?

They are 5yr old nah

I said go back and read the whole chapter yourself, you brought it up in other to cover the shame of your paedophile messenger and great grandfather husband of Aisha not knowing that you are worsening the case

ANTIlSLAM:


They are 5yr old nah

I said go back and read the whole chapter yourself, you brought it up in other to cover the shame of your paedophile messenger and great grandfather husband of Aisha not knowing that you are worsening the case

Read it and tell me. You worship a God that supports Paedophilia. You are shooting yourself in the balls!

AntiChristian:


Read it and tell me. You worship a God that supports Paedophilia. You are shooting yourself in the balls!

Look at this one, my God never supports marrying a 6yr old teenage girl that is rampant in your islam as approved by allah and late messenger muhammad. Bring up another matter and stop disgracing Baby Aishat and her great grandfather husband here pls

ANTIlSLAM:


Look at this one, my God never supports marrying a 6yr old teenage girl that is rampant in your islam as approved by allah and late messenger muhammad. Bring up another matter and stop disgracing Baby Aishat and her great grandfather husband here pls

It's Yahweh that regrets and repents in your Bible. Can't you see all those young girl virgins your God left for the warriors. How are they married?

AntiChristian:


It's Yahweh that regrets and repents in your Bible. Can't you see all those young girl virgins your God left for the warriors. How are they married?

Are they 6yr of age? Why dodging this question or those that married them are great grandfather like Muhammad that has no shame