Kobojunkiee:
. She is an adult and can go wherever she wants for whatever reason she wants with whomever she wants to go with.

So you see how your line of reasoning here becomes faulty?

On whose expense? Of course she can go wherever whenever provided it's on her resources.

Pepsi has just taken the top 6;BBN housemates on an all expense paid trip to Dubai. Imagine White money disappearing to wherever for the flimsy reason that he's an adult. Doesn't that sound like a crazy idea to you?

If you were in the man's shoes, how would you feel? Quit being obnoxious please.

placeofallure:
On whose expense? Of course she can go wherever whenever provided it's on her resources.

Pepsi has just taken the top 6;BBN housemates on an all expense paid trip to Dubai. Imagine White money disappearing to wherever for the flimsy reason that he's an adult. Doesn't that sound like a crazy idea to you?

If you were in the man's shoes, how would you feel? Quit being obnoxious please.

Whoever is paying obviously! Women can and do go wherever, and whenever on their own expense if that is how they chose to travel.

Oh, I don't follow Pepsi or BBN or white money or black money... i rarely do social media as I live in the real world where real people interact with the world as they are able to.

Try another analogy wey fit make sense to me abeg...

Kobojunkiee:
Whoever is paying obviously! Women can and do go wherever, and whenever on their own expense if that is how they chose to travel.

Oh, I don't follow Pepsi or BBN or white money or black money... i rarely do social media as I live in the real world where real people interact with the world as they are able to.

Try another analogy wey fit make sense to me abeg...

You have shot yourself in the leg!

Now I know where to place you intellect. You don't do social media and I come across that moniker here every now and then. I presume everybody on Nairaland is your kinsman then. Mtcheeew! Some people be forming what they're not!

So he paid for her vacation for the sole purpose of sleeping with her. Indeed some men can go to any length just to sleep with you.
And in his mind, the lady has lost. Hell no! She didn't. Atleast thank God there are ladies who still have value for themselves.

Kobojunkiee:
Whoever is paying obviously! Women can and do go wherever, and whenever on their own expense if that is how they chose to travel.

Oh, I don't follow Pepsi or BBN or white money or black money... i rarely do social media as I live in the real world where real people interact with the world as they are able to.

Try another analogy wey fit make sense to me abeg...

Analogy 1

Athletics Federation flies you to Atlanta for a tournament. When you get there, you refuse to go for games. The Federation simply decides to send you back home.

Analogy 2

A man gets married to a woman he likes. After the wedding, she tells him she will have sex only once a month. He is not okay with it. He desires much more sex and decides to get a divorce, and walks away.



Now, it is clear you're being biased against the male gender. Nothing wrong in what he or she did. They're both adults playing a game in which she lost.

He paid for a trip with a willing escort, which is within both of their rights.
He asked for sex, which is within his rights.
She refused, which is within her rights.
He didn't pressure her. He respected her decision. She slept on another bed, peacefully.
He moved up her return date, which is within his rights and sent her the ticket, which she acknowledged.
She now turned around to ask him for sex, which is within her rights.
He refused to touch her, which is within his rights.
If she didn't want to return, she could have moved up the ticket dates and paid for it. It is within her rights.
She kept asking him for more favours, which he declined, because he has the right to.

Frankly, if he was all about buying sex, he would have accepted it when she turned around to offer it to him.

He did nothing wrong there. Love and sex is a game, not a battle. Everyone plays his/her hands. Some win together, some win while others lose.

You really need to remove that gender bias from your line of thinking. It's getting sick.

placeofallure:
You have shot yourself in the leg!

Now I know where to place you intellect. You don't do social media and I come across that moniker here every now and then. I presume everybody on Nairaland is your kinsman then. Mtcheeew! Some people be forming what they're not!

Ok

Mordecai:


Analogy 1

Athletics Federation flies you to Atlanta for a tournament. When you get there, you refuse to go for games. The Federation simply decides to send you back home.

Analogy 2

A man gets married to a woman he likes. After the wedding, she tells him she will have sex only once a month. He is not okay with it. He desires much more sex and decides to get a divorce, and walks away.



Now, it is clear you're being biased against the male gender. Nothing wrong in what he or she did. They're both adults playing a game in which she lost.

He paid for a trip with a willing escort, which is within both of their rights.
He asked for sex, which is within his rights.
She refused, which is within her rights.
He didn't pressure her. He respected her decision. She slept on another bed, peacefully.
He moved up her return date, which is within his rights and sent her the ticket, which she acknowledged.
She now turned around to ask him for sex, which is within her rights.
He refused to touch her, which is within his rights.
If she didn't want to return, she could have moved up the ticket dates and paid for it. It is within her rights.
She kept asking him for more favours, which he declined, because he has the right to.

Frankly, if he was all about buying sex, he would have accepted it when she turned around to offer it to him.

He did nothing wrong there. Love and sex is a game, not a battle. Everyone plays his/her hands. Some win together, some win while others lose.

You really need to remove that gender bias from your line of thinking. It's getting sick.

None of these has anything to do with the story we have here with is quite simple. Why you want to complicate it is beyond me.

placeofallure:


On whose expense? Of course she can go wherever whenever provided it's on her resources.

Pepsi has just taken the top 6;BBN housemates on an all expense paid trip to Dubai. Imagine White money disappearing to wherever for the flimsy reason that he's an adult. Doesn't that sound like a crazy idea to you?

If you were in the man's shoes, how would you feel? Quit being obnoxious please.

What do you expect from a bastard Woman's mouth. You're an adult and can't think before accepting an offer.

Estherqueen50:
So he paid for her vacation for the sole purpose of sleeping with her. Indeed some men can go to any length just to sleep with you.
And in his mind, the lady has lost. Hell no! She didn't. Atleast thank God there are ladies who still have value for themselves.

You're a born fool and a disguided cunt. Least you can do is provide warmth and emotional comfort. What has her smelly pussy achieved for her this whole year, if they're not acquainted to one another she won't be invited.

Men should always endeavor to go out with ladies you are sexually active with, even a overused pussy will be saying Men can do anything to Bleep. What did your father do to Bleep your Mama madam talk stupid

JohnOkolo:



What do you expect from a bastard Woman's mouth. You're an adult and can't think before accepting an offer.

Yes o, and one kobojunkie here is defending nonsense. Is the man her father or brother that he won't at one point or the other ask for sex?

Rosement:
Respect is very important in a relationship, how can a guy give gift to a lady in exchange for sex, he was passing out an information to the lady but she did not get the hint, is it not prostitutes that get paid for sex? This is why we ladies have to observe any guy that approach us before accepting to date them. Don't be blinded by money, some guys are not psychologically okay.

Some ladies are accepting nonsense from their guys now but after marriage they will become feminists and start demanding the respect they can never earn. If you want your guy to respect you, this is the time to earn the respect. If you allow him to treat you bad now because of what you want from him, he will treat you worse in the future and by then, it will be too late for you to correct it. If you feel your guy does not respect you, it is better for you broke up with him before it is too late, if you don't, you will regret it later because you will end up not enjoying your relationship and his money will later become worthless to you, by then you will prefer your peace of mind.

Some guys don't need a real relationship, what they need is a lady that we play the role of a prostitute. As a lady, you have to think properly before you accept some type of gifts from guys, it is better to live in a hut and eat what you have while you are waiting for God to bless you than to allow somebody belittle you.

can a man get sexually attracted to every females he comes across everyday.

why do you females see it has an insult whenever a man approach u for sex instead of seeing it as a sense of attraction and admiration from him.

if a man didn't spend on you, u call him stingy, broke, scum, jerk etc. and he spend, you say he is calling you prostitute.

should everything goes to you for nothing ni

what do you lot want exactly

Does she respect him by making him waste he precious time and money?

No sensible man should take you women seriously cos ur reasoning can be worst than that of an ant.

001spice:
Oga u no do well joor. U for just arrange for another girl in the country and after u r done you can

like davido dump nengi for hotel reception in Dubai and arrange 2 white chic sharperly.

Estherqueen50:
So he paid for her vacation for the sole purpose of sleeping with her. Indeed some men can go to any length just to sleep with you.
And in his mind, the lady has lost. Hell no! She didn't. Atleast thank God there are ladies who still have value for themselves.

how does asking someone out for sex becomes a crime?

to think you lot do gave sex to your man on request make it more difficult for me to understand again o.

this gender ehn, the world would have been a better place without you i swears.

which kind mental fvckery is this

ukaface:
Na him be the shameless one
This gender ehn! They can act so absurd and still make the opposite gender take the blame.

You know that lady is an escort or whatever and they have an agreement before the whole flying out only for her to reach outside country and she no wan stick to agreement because she don reach outside

I am not talking about those clowns. The "high class" women I am talking about are career women/daughters of rich moguls. The Indimi girls, Ibru girls, Igbinedion girls or career women like Mo Abudu or even Agbani Darego. Mercy and co are only high class because of their celebrity status. No hard working man who suffered for his money would touch those women with a ten inch pole knowing their lifestyle.

truthsayer009:


- Who exactly is the high class women we are referring to? Do we mean the likes of Mercy Eke, Lilian Esoro & co?
- I mean some of this high class women work as escorts too, so what's the difference between high class and low class?
- Is it not the amount of money you have that determines the bargain?

Some sensible high class women get married while others continue the life of hustle, so there is no difference.

There are also lots of women who want to get married and start a family (either high class or low class), but that's not what he his interested in.

walkingshadow911:


can a man get sexually attracted to females he comes across everyday.

why do you females see it has an insult whenever a man approach u for sex instead of seeing it as a sense of love and admiration from him.

if a man didn't spend on you, u call him stingy, broke, scum, jerk etc. and he spend, you say he is calling you prostitute.

should everything goes to you for nothing ni

what do you lot want exactly

Does she respect him by making him waste he precious time and money?

No sensible man should take you women seriously cos ur reasoning can be worst than an ant.

These are the answers to all your questions.

1. If attraction is love, why don't guys marry the first lady they approach and say I love you to.

2. You are wrong, sex cannot be a sense of love and admiration, some guys just approach ladies because of their sexual desires, are you saying a guy cannot have sex with a lady just for pleasure? Does the guy have to be in love with the lady before his member can work.

3. My guy doesn't have to give me money because I'm not in any way entitled to his money but my guy must not be a liability. He must be responsible and independent by the time we are ready to get married.

4. No, everything should not go to me for nothing, I should be able to put in the same energy I am asking my guy to put in and that is exactly what I am doing in my relationship.

5. I want a guy that loves and respect me, I don't want a guy that sees me as a toy or an object.

6. I cannot allow any guy to treat me like a prostitute. My guy does not demand sex from me, he willingly accepted my terms and I have never asked my guy to spend money on me because I don't want to lose his respect. We respect each other a lot, we settle quarrels easily because we understand each other so well, there are times, we fight because of our distance, time difference and schedules.
For me, relationship is not a job or a means of livelihood. I don't depend on my relationship for survive, I don't buy things I cannot afford to buy myself and I don't ask guys to weather my storms for me, I am use to weathering my storms on my own.

7. No guy like you can respect any lady, I have met guys like you but thank God I was wise enough not to allow them hurt me, I left those relationships without being hurt. My present bf is not like you, he is very reasonable and responsible. I love and respect him a lot, our relationship is very healthy.

Rosement:

These are the answers to all your questions.

1. If attraction is love, why don't guys marry the first lady they approach and say I love you to.

2. You are wrong, sex cannot be a sense of love and admiration, some guys just approach ladies because of their sexual desires, are you saying a guy cannot have sex with a lady just for pleasure? Does the guy have to be in love with the lady before his member can work.

3. My guy doesn't have to give me money because I'm not in any way entitled to his money but my guy must not be a liability. He must be responsible and independent by the time we are ready to get married.

4. No, everything should not go to me for nothing, I should be able to put in the same energy I am asking my guy to put in and that is exactly what I am doing in my relationship.

5. I want a guy that loves and respect me, I don't want a guy that sees me as a toy or an object.

6. I cannot allow any guy to treat me like a prostitute. My guy does not demand sex from me, he willingly accepted my terms and I have never asked my guy to spend money on me because I don't want to lose his respect. We respect each other a lot, we settle quarrels easily because we understand each other so well, there are times, we fight because of our distance, time difference and schedules.
For me, relationship is not a job or a means of livelihood. I don't depend on my relationship for survive, I don't buy things I cannot afford to buy myself and I don't ask guys to weather my storms for me, I am use to weathering my storms on my own.

7. No guy like you can respect any lady, I have met guys like you but thank God I was wise enough not to allow them hurt me, I left those relationships without being hurt. My present bf is not like you, he is very reasonable and responsible. I love and respect him a lot, our relationship is very healthy.

who goes on a sex trip with a stranger if not a prostitute.
love is just an emotional feelings that comes and go that's na why a lady can dump a guy she claimed she love just because she found someone better abi
you just changed the narative.
can you have sex with a mad man or woman accross the street just for pleasure or to satisfy one yeye temporal desire

your guy never asked you for sex is a bloody pathological lie.
every guy want sex except he is your family member.
Don't gaslight, if you found him unattractive, it's a simple yes or no from you.no disrespect.
And if you found him very attractive, you call it flirting lol

thank God you said some guys*
I ain't some guys, i doubt you can even reject my advances.

i only date for marriage and if you fumble na your loss be dat. Attractions must come first while other qualities follows.

i doubt you have a problem wif dat

walkingshadow911:


who goes on a sex trip with a stranger if not a prostitute.
And a lady can dump a guy she claimed she love just because she found someone better abi
you just changed the narative.
can you have sex with a mad man or woman accross the street just for pleasure or to satisfy one yeye temporal desire

your guy never asked you for sex is a bloody pathological lie.

thank God you said some guys*
I ain't some guys, i doubt you can even reject my advances.
And if you fumble na your loss be dat
i only date for marriage and attractions must come first while other qualities follows.

i doubt you have a problem wif dat

My comment was a general advice to ladies, I never said it was right for the lady to go on a trip with the guy. If a lady respects herself, no guy will be able to disrespect her.

It is good you mentioned that you have good intentions for dating and having sex but there are a lot of heartbroken ladies out there, I cannot take any chances because I don't want to add to the statistics. How do I know a guy's intention? I'm not a mind reader, all that matters is that I protect myself from being hurt.

If you are saying I am lying because I said my bf is not demanding sex from me, it means you are saying that all guys persuade ladies to have sex before marriage and all ladies get deflowered before marriage. Don't deceive yourself, all guys don't think the same way.

You said ladies dump guys and go for better guys but guys also dump ladies for better ladies (more attractive ladies). Stop generalising, not all ladies and guys do that.
If I am to speak for myself, I cannot dump a guy because of money except the guy is very irresponsible and lazy. I will never marry a liability and I will never be a liability.

Not all guys and ladies marry their first dates, will you marry somebody just because you dated the person?
I will not be with a guy out of pity. I know I love my bf but for instance, if I'm dating a guy and I feel I don't really love him and what we had was just infatuation, I will breakup with him. My bf also has the right to break up with me, if he feels I am not the best for him. Love cannot be forced, breakup is allowed, it is not a crime. A broken relationship is better than a broken marriage.

If I allowed all the guys that approached me and told me they loved me to have sex with me, then by now, I would have opened my legs for a lot of guys like prostitutes do.

gforce5:
I am not talking about those clowns. The "high class" women I am talking about are career women/daughters of rich moguls. The Indimi girls, Ibru girls, Igbinedion girls or career women like Mo Abudu or even Agbani Darego. Mercy and co are only high class because of their celebrity status. No hard working man who suffered for his money would touch those women with a ten inch pole knowing their lifestyle.

This women you mentioned won't do all of this for money, because their parents are already wealthy so I don't understand how that solves any problem. Why would anyone want to import Ibru girls or daughter of Rich moguls?

I don't really know what you mean by "a career woman" but if you mean a woman who has a 9-5 job, then I can assure you that plenty of them also partake in these types of arrangements.

Rosement:
Respect is very important in a relationship, how can a guy give gift to a lady in exchange for sex, he was passing out an information to the lady but she did not get the hint, is it not prostitutes that get paid for sex? This is why we ladies have to observe any guy that approach us before accepting to date them. Don't be blinded by money, some guys are not psychologically okay.

My sister, this is how traditional relationships work. Nobody came to count bridge in Lagos.

You are required to take care of the needs of the person you are dating, in exchange for sex or commitment. Something must give.

truthsayer009:


My sister, this is how traditional relationships work. Nobody came to count bridge in Lagos.

You are required to take care of the needs of the person you are dating, in exchange for sex or commitment. Something must give.

Okay, I understand you but my advice is not for all ladies, it is only for ladies that want to be respected in their relationships. A lady can decide to have sex with a guy and even collect money and gifts from the guy if she wants to but she should first get to know the guy every well (for at least six months - eight months) before relying on him and she should allow the guy know that he is not her source of income.

Let's be frank, though I hate to say this but the lady in question acted like a prostitute, she followed a guy that is not her boyfriend and that she doesn't really know outside the country. She has disrespected herself, how does she expect the guy to respect her? She played cheap to him.

We are no longer in the 90's, this is the 21st century, things are now different, there are playboys and ritualists everywhere. In the olden days, ladies were not even lazy, they were useful in farms.

I'm a lady, each time I see ladies being shamed, it hurts me deeply. Some of these things can be avoided, some ladies today don't want to work, they want Cinderella type of life, they spend more time enhancing their beauty and going out to attract guys.

The profession of some ladies is relationship, they have no other means of survive. If guys can struggle, what is stopping some ladies from struggling, I know life is not easy but it is not easy for both guys and ladies or are ladies underpaid? It is not the same amount a guy can make that a lady can make?

Is there any man that will not be happy if he is not the only one providing for the family but his wife is also contributing to the family?

Rosement:

Okay, I understand you but my advice is not for all ladies, it is only for ladies that want to be respected in their relationships. A lady can decide to have sex with a guy and even collect money and gifts from the guy if she wants to but she should first get to know the guy every well (for at least six months - eight months) before relying on him and she should allow the guy know that he is not her source of income.

Let's be frank, though I hate to say this but the lady in question acted like a prostitute, she followed a guy that is not her boyfriend and that she doesn't really know outside the country. She has disrespected herself, how does she expect the guy to respect her? She played cheap to him.

We are no longer in the 90's, this is the 21st century, things are now different, there are playboys and ritualists everywhere. In the olden days, ladies were not even lazy, they were useful in farms.

I'm a lady, each time I see ladies being shamed, it hurts me deeply. Some of these things can be avoided, some ladies today don't want to work, they want Cinderella type of life, they spend more time enhancing their beauty and going out to attract guys.

The profession of some ladies is relationship, they have no other means of survive. If guys can struggle, what is stopping some ladies from struggling, I know life is not easy but it is not easy for both guys and ladies or are ladies underpaid? It is not the same amount a guy can make that a lady can make?

Is there any man that will not be happy if he is not the only one providing for the family but his wife is also contributing to the family?

To be fair, I have only met 2 women from Nigeria in my life time who aren't parasitic and I have met a lot of women from 24 years till I became 30, so I can assure you that paying of bills is part of relationship in Nigeria. Also to note that all the women I met all had jobs, none was jobless so I know what I am saying.

-- We are no longer in the 90's, this is the 21st century, things are now different

This is a very false, maybe not amongst your circle but women still require you to do everything you did back then in the 80s, nothing has changed. As a matter of fact, if a man doesn't have his finance put together he shouldn't even bother to enter a relationship in Nigeria, It is dead on arrival. Whether this is happening in your own relationship or not doesn't matter, the statistics are far more than think.

The difference is that women have more opportunities now, simple.

-- The profession of some ladies is relationship, they have no other means of survive

Actually they do, most do. The problem is greater than survival. The issue is that they expect you to finance them, not because they cannot survive on their own. Let's use Toke Makinwa as an example, she is financially secure in all areas, but she still consciously looks for a man to serenade her, an Interview with Pastor Kingsley of David Christian Center reveals that she is tired of spending her own money on herself. Not because she is broke.

You see all those women selling petty stuff online, they can actually do without a man but their mentality won't let it happen.

-- Is there any man that will not be happy if he is not the only one providing for the family but his wife is also contributing to the family?

Yes surely, every one does but I think men always know the type of women they marry. You can't be dating a girl that has not bought you a pencil before and expect her contribute when she gets married, as they say a Lizard cannot become an Alligator after a marriage. My money is my money gang lol.

truthsayer009:


To be fair, I have only met 2 women from Nigeria in my life time who aren't parasitic and I have met a lot of women from 24 years till I became 30, so I can assure you that paying of bills is part of relationship in Nigeria. Also to note that all the women I met all had jobs, none was jobless so I know what I am saying.

I agree with you, as long as a lady is not lazy or jobless, her guy will respect her, even if she receives gift from him.

You have a point. Not all career women are what they seem.

truthsayer009:


This women you mentioned won't do all of this for money, because their parents are already wealthy so I don't understand how that solves any problem. Why would anyone want to import Ibru girls or daughter of Rich moguls?

I don't really know what you mean by "a career woman" but if you mean a woman who has a 9-5 job, then I can assure you that plenty of them also partake in these types of arrangements.

okoroemeka:
that is why I believe men will not totally understand how complex women are, something made her to switch off and I also believe that the man may have caused the switch off or it may be the complexity of women hormones,body and behavior at play,instead of chasing her away and abusing her ,the man could have used this opportunity to interact more with the girl to better understand what went wrong,for a girl that was lavished with such goodies to switch off at the point of sex is just pointing to a critical issue,what went wrong?how I wish I was in that room with that girl to better understand and learn what made her to behave is such manner

Bro, there's no complexity there. These creatures are mentally simpler than an amoeba. There's no switching on or off there. Her thought process was simple and straightforward... "Deny him sex, and I can get him to do anything I want." Apparently, she miscalculated.

The hotel room like one of those poor Asian countries like Nepal or somewhere worse, sad where someone's daughter will follow a man just for the bragging rights of having left the shores of Nigeria

Women need to understand that it is not only their female children that needs training on relationship, male children also have to be taught how to treat ladies.

Any son that comes out of my womb is not permitted to misbehave with or insult a lady, if he does that he has insulted the womb that carried him.

Wow! Just saw this now.
I understand you so I cant be hurt by your words. You have spoken based on your experience, believes and mindset. So I it's fine. I only pray we all get to experience and meet great people and most importantly have an encounter with Jesus. Be blessed forever.

JohnOkolo:



You're a born fool and a disguided cunt. Least you can do is provide warmth and emotional comfort. What has her smelly pussy achieved for her this whole year, if they're not acquainted to one another she won't be invited.

Men should always endeavor to go out with ladies you are sexually active with, even a overused pussy will be saying Men can do anything to Bleep. What did your father do to Bleep your Mama madam talk stupid

I understand your point. Like you said there no crime asking anyone for sex ( that's your belief)
On the other hand, my belief is against sex outside marriage. So I think the difference in belief is the problem we have here. So it's fine. �

walkingshadow911:


how does asking someone out for sex becomes a crime?

to think you lot do gave sex to your man on request make it more difficult for me to understand again o.

this gender ehn, the world would have been a better place without you i swears.

which kind mental fvckery is this

..

Normal level

The man is all wrong here,when did paid vacation=sex?was it in their agreement? You can agree to go on a vacation with someone and still not have sex and the man has no right to be angry or forceful about it,it's like asking her to trade her body for the vacation expenses and that is cheap and also an insult.

You are right but he does have the right to also change vacation partner(s) since ALL expenses are on him. Abi?