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Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by T9ksy(m): 10:05pm On Jun 12, 2011
dayokanu:

^^ Point of correction

Yorubas dont care if Ibos like them or Not

Yes o!!! However, the ibos hates the yorubas because they believe if it wasn't for the yorubas they would have actualised their hegemonic ambition during the civil war.


lagcity:

yorubas don't hate igbos. i wouldn't say there is love affair between the two but yorubas definitely do not hate the igbos. i don't know how igbos feel but it makes sense that if some igbos hate/distrust yorubas, they'll think the yorubas hate/distrust them in return, which isn't the case.
in business, they do work together. but in politics, that's another story. i think both will work together if one or two respected leaders from each group genuinely put aside pettiness and work together.

Yorubas can never work together with the ibos. Past experiences has taught us never to trust the ibos. They always end up aligning with the northerners.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by ak47mann(m): 10:23pm On Jun 12, 2011
Yorubas can never work together with the ibos. Past experiences has taught us never to trust the ibos. They always end up aligning with the northerners.
[quote][/quote]We offered international thief thief surpport during his presidency he told us he can win without igbos grin grin grin obviously the[b] NTI ELEKE[/b] HAVE MADE DEAL WITH ABOKIS and still they luck him up same goes to bode, obj,awolowo,and even abokis dont trust yorubas let be honest to ourselves bro it wont kill you if you accept it.Looking at the way they always cut you people off when it comes to politics and they never stop now former speaker again they disgrace the poor man angry angry he still weeping like a baby in prison now cry cry dey make sure b/4 he leave office they must brand him as usual  cheesy aboki people are very wicked look now he don join his Yoruba ex con crew cry this one don enter history books again embarassedthey say that federal govt is going to establish a new course in secondary schools about corruption in Nigeria.Imagine the coursework mostly  Yoruba ex convicts names dey go dey sing for class grin
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by T9ksy(m): 10:49pm On Jun 12, 2011
ak47mann:


Yorubas can never work together with the ibos. Past experiences has taught us never to trust the ibos. They always end up aligning with the northerners.
We offered international thief thief surpport during his presidency he told us he can win without igbos grin grin grin obviously the[b] NTI ELEKE[/b] HAVE MADE DEAL WITH ABOKIS and still they luck him up same goes to bode, obj,awolowo,and even abokis dont trust yorubas let be honest to ourselves bro it wont kill you if you accept it.Looking at the way they always cut you people off when it comes to politics and they never stop now former speaker again they disgrace the poor man angry angry he still weeping like a baby in prison now cry cry dey make sure b/4 he leave office they must brand him as usual cheesy aboki people are very wicked look now he don join his Yoruba ex con crew cry this one don enter history books again embarassedthey say that federal govt is going to establish a new course in secondary schools about corruption in Nigeria.Imagine the coursework mostly Yoruba ex convicts names dey go dey sing for class grin

What a load of hogwash!
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by emmatok(m): 12:05am On Jun 13, 2011
CONCLUSION: The Igbos should understand that the crisis facing the South today was directly or remotely caused by them. But because their leaders had not been sincere to them, they have continuously propagated the lie that the West is responsible for their problem. A few facts should illuminate this:

In 1957, the North threatened to secede if independence was granted to Nigeria because they were not ready. Zik, was supposed to have reached an understanding with Awo to let the North go. But to Awo’s consternation, Zik formed an alliance with the North which succeeded in delaying independence and allowed the North to get ready.
In 1966, a group of young Igbo officers planned a coup that killed only non-Igbo politicians. Included among the politicians was Ahmadu Bello who was a god-like figure to the Northerners. Before you could say Jihad, all the Sabongaris were on fire and the pogrom that would lead to the civil war has started,
Instead of trying to seek immediate political solution to the crisis, the Igbos declared Biafra. They war lasted for 30 months. The Igbos lost everything. The Hausa-Fulani oligarchy took this defeat of Biafra as the conquest of the South. Since then, they have transformed the privilege of leadership into that of a birthright and they have used it not only to stunt the growth of the South but also to subject their people to a state of perpetual servitude and feudalistic iniquities.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by ChinenyeN(m): 12:20am On Jun 13, 2011
emmatok:

In 1957, the North threatened to secede if independence was granted to Nigeria because they were not ready. Zik, was supposed to have reached an understanding with Awo to let the North go. But to Awo’s consternation, Zik formed an alliance with the North which succeeded in delaying independence and allowed the North to get ready.
This particular detail is the one thing that replays in my head, anytime Nigeria's independence and Biafra are mentioned.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by udezue(m): 12:47am On Jun 13, 2011
I'm with Alex101. Ndi Igbo should quit acting more Nigerian than others. We should learn to mind our own business unless we are threatened. The North and West were the ones burning not the East so why organize a coup to save them?
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by jason123: 2:01am On Jun 13, 2011
ChinenyeN:

This particular detail is the one thing that replays in my head, anytime Nigeria's independence and Biafra are mentioned.

Not only in yours but mine as well!
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by member479760: 2:20am On Jun 13, 2011
Poster, don't headache yourself, you will never hear/read the fact, any history book that makes its way to the bookstore, the content is what they want you to read and what they want you to read can never be the truth. Even Ojukwu, Gowan will never tell the fact.
if you want to read true story, carry maths, physics or chemistry book, for those, person nogo lie sey 1+1 = 11
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by kasiem(m): 12:10pm On Jun 13, 2011
Sometimes we keep referring to enahoro as a nationalist ipso facto he table a motion, but the fact says the opposite. Okay, nationalists like mahatma gandhi truely displayed that instinct when their country was at the brink of disintegration and collapse, thats why he clearly repudiated the attempt to break up his country " india dominated by hindus and muslim dominated part(pakistan)" with all the diplomatic dint, though, he was later murdered by a pakistan recidivist which led to the negation of his effort. But, during the civil war epoch, enahoro was at the forefront of subverting relief material that were sublimated to combat hunger and privation in the biafran part. So, that clearly showed that the leaders of the country never harboured anything good for the igbos. Even, zik sabotaged the efforts of the igbos by embarking on diplomatic ways of halting the war to keep the as one.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by T9ksy(m): 1:01pm On Jun 13, 2011
kasiem:

But, during the civil war epoch, enahoro was at the forefront of subverting relief material that were sublimated to combat hunger and privation in the biafran part.

Its not Enahoro's responsibilty to cater for the biafrans after Ojukwu arrogated that post to himself and later over-ran the midwest region. Enahoro was only trying to save his people from annihilation by ojukwu and his seceeding-turned-liberation army. On the other hand, Ojukwu actually refused this relief aid unless the agencies were willing to pay landing fees to him in order to supply much need relief materials to his dying people.This "land fees" was what Ojukwu utilised to persist with the war even though the same people he was alledgedly fighting for were dying in their hundreds every day, from starvation.

kasiem:

Even, zik sabotaged the efforts of the igbos by embarking on diplomatic ways of halting the war to keep the as one.

Zik was all for the seceesion initially but when he realised how megalomaniac Ojukwu is and how badly planned and implemented the war was, he had no choice but to withdraw his support.
In actual fact, zik embarked on diplomatic missions, not to keep nigeria one, as you errornously (and unfairly) asserted but rather to put an end to the gratuitous deaths of thousands of biafran kids and women as Ojukwu was hell-bent on continuing with the war.

I sometimes imagine how many biafrans (and nigerians) lives could have been saved had Ojukwu ran to IC (in search of peaceful resolution) half-way through the war when it became obvious that he was fighting losing battles? Prolly 500,000!!! Or more?

Gosh! I wonder how the man sleeps at night.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by kasiem(m): 1:52pm On Jun 13, 2011
^^
man, u think that the best way to incommode and enfeeble ur foes in a conflict is by blocking relief materials meant for their innocuos refugees? Nay, for a man that claims to be a nationalist its quite inexpedient, vicious and vacuous. There are better approach that he must've adopted to justify his clame to fame. And i've never heard that ojukwu rebuffed the relief materials, so its coming from u as a furfy. Again, can u substantiate ur assertion that zik espoused the war? Dont u know that zik was one of the people that effectuated the capitulation of the biafrans? So, man there are many things that makes somebody a true nationalist, not just by moving a mere motion.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jun 13, 2011
Whenever I read stuffs like this, I can't but have some good laugh.

The suspicions and the betrayals has always been there. The killings, the maimings, the lootings and the burnings were there from the beginning. All for the single fact that Nigeria became "one".

What is the difference between now and the 1960? Nothing.

The suspicions and the betrayals are still here. The killings, the mimings, the lootins and the burnings are still here today, and they will never depart.

The only soultion is this: Nigeria was not "one", let us seperate peacefully and have the peace our fathers were having before the unfortuante birth of ""one" Nigeria.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by T9ksy(m): 5:51pm On Jun 13, 2011
kasiem:

^^
man, u think that the best way to incommode and enfeeble your foes in a conflict is by blocking relief materials meant for their innocuos refugees? Nay, for a man that claims to be a nationalist its quite inexpedient, vicious and vacuous. There are better approach that he must've adopted to justify his clame to fame. And i've never heard that ojukwu rebuffed the relief materials, so its coming from u as a furfy. Again, can u substantiate your assertion that zik espoused the war? Dont u know that zik was one of the people that effectuated the capitulation of the biafrans? So, man there are many things that makes somebody a true nationalist, not just by moving a mere motion.

The blockade was initiated by Gowon C-i-C right from the onset of the war yet Ojukwu persist with his ambitious war without any alternatives to feeding his people. It was obvious that the biafrans will be faced with mass starvation but ojukwu didn't care. in fact, he used the plight of his starvation people to garner more arms and ammunitions from friendly nations, such as France. Enahoro might have agreed with Gowon's move but he had no say in how Gowon chosed to clip Ojukwu's wings. The decision to blockade biafra was Gowon's and his alone irrespective of whose idea it was. Don't forget too that the ilk of Murtala, katsina, IBB et al were breathing down Gowon's neck, urging him to deal decisively with Ojukwu.

Am sure you never heard of Ojukwu's boasts of how he continued the war with "Landing fees" from relief agencies. I suggest if you are really interested in finding out the truth, to go on youtube and search for " Biafran war".


In the meanwhile, below are links to wet your appetite. Happy reading  cool

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1968/jul/31/nigeria-and-biafra-relief


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/oct/24/national-24-10-2009-002.html
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by dayokanu(m): 3:18am On Jun 14, 2011
What a shame
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by mkpologwu(m): 3:34am On Jun 14, 2011
I've read thru y'all posts and most of them hogwash!
We d yonger generation weren't born then, yet tribal sentiment and lack of trust thrives bigger now! The only difference btw ironsi, akintola, bello them and us is that there are more hatred now than then.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by Onlytruth(m): 4:42am On Jun 14, 2011
Chapter 7

We remained in prison, while Ironsi wondered what to do with us the plotters of the January 1966 coup. This was largely because he was not sure exactly how to portray us to the nation and the international community. Was he to present us as rebels and severely court martial us? But he was still riding upon the throes of public acclaim of our success in ousting an unpopular government and bringing a sign of relief to the Nigerian populace.

Was he then to portray us as heroes and involve us in his government? That did not seem like a plausible option either. He had settled down to a table that was set before him on a platter of gold and would not throw the doors so widely open especially to let in the daredevil revolutionaries.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by Onlytruth(m): 5:24am On Jun 14, 2011
7 contd.


In the heat of all these, General Ironsi carried out a promotion exercise in the armed
forces. Again a number of complaints were raised against this. First there was a complaint
that some of the January 1966 coup plotters were promoted. This turned out to be untrue. . .

Between 1955 and 1961 when there was no recruitment quota in the armed forces, the bulk of
the recruits were Igbo or Igbo speaking officers. This trend was checked when the quota
system was put in place which reserved fifty percent  of the recruitment quota to the
Northern region and fifty percent to be shared by the Eastern, Western and Mid-Western
Regions.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by Onlytruth(m): 5:32am On Jun 14, 2011
^^
What a turn of events!  shocked shocked shocked

From merit based recruitment to quota system ceding 50% to the North.

I have always said that the surest way to destroy a family is to hand over the leadership of the family to the least talented or the least able.  cool

This book didn't talk about how we shifted from merit based recruitment to quota system in the armed forces.
Methinks that it weakens a nation. Because of this quota system, I am not sure that Nigeria has the toughest soldiers. undecided
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by kasiem(m): 7:08am On Jun 14, 2011
What a pathetic way of selling the country into the northerners hands in the name of quota system? Okay, why didn't they make it fourty percent to the north and sixty percent to the south, which comprised of two major tribes? This ironsi of a man is problem of igbos now, he laid the foundation.
Re: To Save Nigeria: The Revolutionary Coup And The Civil War by Uchek(m): 12:02am On Jun 27, 2022
" I've always pondered as to why those efulefu majors refused to see tribalism in the 1960s. What is their concern if the western region was burning and Awo was imprisoned? Why couldn't they let it burn or let Ahmadu Bello deal with Awo the way he deemed fit?"

Totally agree with you. The coup plotters intention were to benefit the West and Awolowo who wear under political assualt from the feudal North. Yet when the conflict degenerated into war, the Yoruba turned around to support their hitherto mortal enemy, Caliphate North , to slaughter Ndigbo

alex101:
 The moral of this whole saga is to mind your own business and never go/come to the aid of those who aren't your tribe's men angry. Ndigbo should stop acting like they are more nigerian than others. I've always pondered as to why those efulefu majors refused to see tribalism in the 1960s. What is their concern if the western region was burning and Awo was imprisoned? Why couldn't they let it burn or let Ahmadu Bello deal with Awo the way he deemed fit?

 Even the Ikemba knows this,,,,,that was why he didn't border trying to save Saro Wiwa's neck from Abacha's noose, inspite of the latter's attempt at reconciliation with Ikemba and Ndigbo in general.  

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