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Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by ScamHunter: 2:53pm On Jan 04, 2022
davodyguy:



Jonathan is a tool by the north for power after 4 years
Una mumu and sentiment has blindfolded you to see reality

Better the north than Afonja backstabbers. Even a 4 years of Jonathan is better than a 15 years of an Afonja

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Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by EBEk101(m): 2:59pm On Jan 04, 2022
adelaja70:

Is Tinubu and Uzor Kalu not eating with them? Even OBJ is still eating with them... My brother.. Just calm down.
But do the north stand any chance of returning to power after four years with those aforementioned names?
It politics man and u knw the north will do everything possible that will lead to short cut to retain power
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by oyatz(m): 3:02pm On Jan 04, 2022
Hoelujohn:

Agreed. Let me ask you a question. If there are like 5 million votes to fight for in SE and SS, how many votes do u think GEJ will get under APC?
Secondly what will also happen if Tinubu decamp to PDP and get the ticket. Will Tinubu also defeat him


You are very funny, how can Tinubu (who has never decamped to another party) suddenly decamp to the PDP on the eve of a presidential election and be dashed the the PDP ticket?
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Benchilwell: 3:20pm On Jan 04, 2022
ScamHunter:

Better the north than Afonja, don't you think? When you sold the south for Tinubu crumbs in 2015, what did you expect? Take your Afonjish reasoning out of here.
mumu u don't know d person that u are talking to is an Igbo person, and again wat concern me with Lagos G.O tinubu, sorry I dey reply person were no dey think say north they also they sale south to Jonathan so that them will come to power for another 8 yrs
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Tareq1105: 3:21pm On Jan 04, 2022
Sammy07:
angry


Jonathan, shortest route for Northerns to be back to power.

We know but I don't expect Jonathan to fall for their strategy to rub the South their deserved 8 years.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by adelaja70(m): 3:25pm On Jan 04, 2022
EBEk101:

But do the north stand any chance of returning to power after four years with those aforementioned names?
It politics man and u knw the north will do everything possible that will lead to short cut to retain power
North bawo? Abeg forget dem jare... Una just dey give them the power wey dem no get. Since South started fighting back when did you hear about Fulani headsmen killing farmers in the south?
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by DMerciful(m): 3:41pm On Jan 04, 2022
There's nothing like Southern, it's either SE,SS or SW! This fraud being perpetrated by NW and SW to swing power btw themselves while calling it North and South will not work again
davodyguy:
Mumu people

Jonathan constitutionally has only 4 more years to run. Any part that field Jonathan should expect power to return to the north in 2027

They need a southern with fresh 8 year mandate
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Hoelujohn: 3:51pm On Jan 04, 2022
oyatz:



You are very funny, how can Tinubu (who has never decamped to another party) suddenly decamp to the PDP on the eve of a presidential election and be dashed the the PDP ticket

Have you forgotten Obaseki ni
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by EBEk101(m): 3:54pm On Jan 04, 2022
adelaja70:

North bawo? Abeg forget dem jare... Una just dey give them the power wey dem no get. Since South started fighting back when did you hear about Fulani headsmen killing farmers in the south?

But the south ain’t United or didn’t wike said Nigeria will be better in 2023 under a said northern governor after declaring the south must produce the next president?
If the southwest, southeast, south south come together and say this who we want to see through the affairs of this country ai don’t think the north stand a chance for as long as they want to rotate it within themselves

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Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by bjdon: 4:07pm On Jan 04, 2022
The road to 2023 will see many new alliances formerd. Previous enemies will suddenly become friends and vice versa.

If the APC pick GEJ, it's very likley the PDP will go with a Northerner. Where does that leave the SE and SW? I would humbly suggest that should be the time for those 2 zones to FINALLY see sense and understand that no condition is for ever. If after 8 years the APC double cross the SW and after 24 years PDP do not give the SE the ticket, then surley that is the time for the SE and SW to unite in a new party. The SW should support the SE for the presidency, with a christian vice from the North Central (Yes it should be a Christian/Christian ticket, the NW and NE wil already be shared between PDP and APC no need to try and appease them)
This aillance can clear the North Central, SE and SW and also some parts of the NE like Adamawa and Taraba. The SW should be promised the Senate Presidency and some specific ministries.
If the SE and SW do not find a way to work together, the North will contiune to play them off against each other, while the North will be ones to keep gaining
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Bigchristo: 4:16pm On Jan 04, 2022
dre11:





https://www.newtelegraphng.com/2023-jonathans-factor-alters-calculations-in-pdp/
Good luck Jonathan want to ruin his reputation that he has built so far, it will be wise for him to actually remain in his current position, Nigerians respect him as he left office as a hero of democracy, but he want to come back and disgrace himself for this already destroyed country grin grin grin
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by madmohamed(m): 4:38pm On Jan 04, 2022
Fiscus105:



The same way it would difficult to garner votes for him in south west.

In fact it would be more difficult to choose not only ex gov but person whose is political weight has shrunk and almost in political oblivion.


Northerners should forget 2023 presidential stuff, if "sit of power" can be scheming for southerners how much less, one aboki from Sokoto believing he can win after 8 years stretch of useless old Fulani man in power.

How would southerners campaign again for aboki as president for 16 years stretch?
another Fulani man not even awusa
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by oyatz(m): 5:16pm On Jan 04, 2022
Hoelujohn:

Have you forgotten Obaseki ni

Do you know the differences between State Gubernatorial and Presidential elections?


Obaseki and Tinubu aren't also the same
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by a4cube: 5:43pm On Jan 04, 2022
davodyguy:



Jonathan is a tool by the north for power after 4 years
Una mumu and sentiment has blindfolded you to see reality

If our some of our southern politicians were tools to return power to the North in 2015 why won't GEJ be this time around. We did this to ourselves.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by princeabdul(m): 5:45pm On Jan 04, 2022
Lol dead party trying to be relevant, y'all should go home the evil your party has done is enough
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Odidigboigbo(m): 5:48pm On Jan 04, 2022
Hoelujohn:

Agreed. Let me ask you a question. If there are like 5 million votes to fight for in SE and SS, how many votes do u think GEJ will get under APC?
Secondly what will also happen if Tinubu decamp to PDP and get the ticket. Will Tinubu also defeat him
To be candid with you, irrespective of the person PDP present, Tambowa Atiku or Tunubu, SS and SE will vote for the person. The only difference might be the virgin of victory in those zones. For example, if PDP present Tunubu as a candidate and APC present GEJ. Tunubu will win in the zone provided he ran under PDP but it won't be landslide but if it is the other way round(that is GEJ running under PDP and Tunubu, under APC) GEJ will records landslides victory in those zones .
For your first question, if APC present GEJ as a candidate, APC might get about 45% votes while PDP get 55% in the zones. If APC present any other Candidate that is not from those zones, they will get at most 30% votes.

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Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Odidigboigbo(m): 5:54pm On Jan 04, 2022
oyatz:


Will these zones then support PDP's Tambuwal-Mimiko ticket?
As I said SE and SS loyalty is to party and not tight to an individual. Irrespective of the candidate presented by PDP, PDP will always win in those areas, the only difference might be the margin of victory
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by stroller9795: 6:38pm On Jan 04, 2022
kenlinzo:
If this is true, I don't see it as a good thing for the south. I believe Ex-president Jonathan can only rule for a term instead of the usual two term ( 4years(instead of 8yrs) cos he has done 4 yrs before now) after which the north will then fight to retain the power for another 8yrs. Let's be wise and put the future of our great country first before our personal interest.
Even if another southerner becomes president,the North won’t allow him to rule for more than 4 years so let’s all support GEJ in 2023 and stop over analyzing this whole thing!
GEJ wasn’t perfect but he is better than the likes of Tinubu,Atiku,Tambuwal and co.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by stroller9795: 6:40pm On Jan 04, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
To be candid with you, irrespective of the person PDP present, Tambowa Atiku or Tunubu, SS and SE will vote for the person. The only difference might be the virgin of victory in those zones. For example, if PDP present Tunubu as a candidate and APC present GEJ. Tunubu will win in the zone provided he ran under PDP but it won't be landslide but if it is the other way round(that is GEJ running under PDP and Tunubu, under APC) GEJ will records landslides victory in those zones .
For your first question, if APC present GEJ as a candidate, APC might get about 45% votes while PDP get 55% in the zones. If APC present any other Candidate that is not from those zones, they will get at most 30% votes.
GEJ will win irrespective of the party.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Odidigboigbo(m): 7:12pm On Jan 04, 2022
stroller9795:

GEJ will win irrespective of the party.
Either you are not from these zones or you are far away from home. You don't know how politics is played in these areas. So you will tell me that APC will win Delta State for example if they present GEJ as their candidate?
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by KunleyY19(m): 7:23pm On Jan 04, 2022
If APC fields GEJ there will surely be a breakaway faction, Osinbanjo and Tinubu cannot go about campaigning for GEJ...
And it might become a three horse race which will mean well for Atiku or Tambuwal from PDP. Because I am damn sure Asiwaju faction will breakout and possibly return to ACN.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by KunleyY19(m): 7:29pm On Jan 04, 2022
oyatz:



You are very funny, how can Tinubu (who has never decamped to another party) suddenly decamp to the PDP on the eve of a presidential election and be dashed the the PDP ticket?



Tinubu will rather go back to ACN than join PDP. And APC can't win without Tinubu same way Tinubu can't win without APC. Jonathan won't sell in the South West and the north won't vote him wholeheartedly against an Atiku or Tambuwal.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by dreamxhaser: 8:49pm On Jan 04, 2022
bjdon:
The road to 2023 will see many new alliances formerd. Previous enemies will suddenly become friends and vice versa.

If the APC pick GEJ, it's very likley the PDP will go with a Northerner. Where does that leave the SE and SW? I would humbly suggest that should be the time for those 2 zones to FINALLY see sense and understand that no condition is for ever. If after 8 years the APC double cross the SW and after 24 years PDP do not give the SE the ticket, then surley that is the time for the SE and SW to unite in a new party. The SW should support the SE for the presidency, with a christian vice from the North Central (Yes it should be a Christian/Christian ticket, the NW and NE wil already be shared between PDP and APC no need to try and appease them)
This aillance can clear the North Central, SE and SW and also some parts of the NE like Adamawa and Taraba. The SW should be promised the Senate Presidency and some specific ministries.
If the SE and SW do not find a way to work together, the North will contiune to play them off against each other, while the North will be ones to keep gaining

You just typed shit, bastard. Now imagine the north and SW doing Muslim/Muslim ticket. I believe you will be the first to shout Islamization.

Dundi
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Olaideolayemi(m): 9:05pm On Jan 04, 2022
Weak political structure..
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Rhea(f): 9:09pm On Jan 04, 2022
dre11:





https://www.newtelegraphng.com/2023-jonathans-factor-alters-calculations-in-pdp/

For those packaging GEJ as president in 2023, do not forget that it was the non-performance of Jonathan that provoked Nigerians to vote in Buhari (or rather vote out Jonathan and vote in any monkey that can wear agbada and stand for pictures). It seems like we are enjoying Buhari so much that we have forgotten how we got here
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by penceman(m): 10:02pm On Jan 04, 2022
Immediately PDP Fields a northerner it dies a natural death and Nigeria will become a strictly one party state

Any party that fields a northerner under any guise is dead.
The natural cause will be that APC will pick from south but not the black looter.
They might even chose Jonathan and it will fly mightily.
Northerners have their houses under banditry and I don't know how any of them want to abandon a Battle that will soon roost them to play to gallery.

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Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Denoh68: 10:05pm On Jan 04, 2022
YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN,THE SOUTHERNERS I KNOW WILL NOT CONSIDER PSRTY,NA THE PERSON THEY WANT.
Odidigboigbo:
I doubt if SS or SE will support GEJ candidature in APC. These zones, their support is beyond individual.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Denoh68: 10:05pm On Jan 04, 2022
YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN,THE SOUTHERNERS I KNOW WILL NOT CONSIDER PARTY,NA THE PERSON THEY WANT.
Odidigboigbo:
I doubt if SS or SE will support GEJ candidature in APC. These zones, their support is beyond individual.
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Denoh68: 10:07pm On Jan 04, 2022
IS NNAMDI KANU A BLESSING OR CURSE TO IGBOS?
Zimmermann:
While IPOB are busy self-destructing the SE with their toxic politics of hate n entitlement!

You claim to fight tyranny and injustice, but impose same on ur own ppl?

Ife di mma, di mma.
Ife di njo, di njo!
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Zimmermann(m): 10:31pm On Jan 04, 2022
Denoh68:
IS NNAMDI KANU A BLESSING OR CURSE TO IGBOS?
He started like a blessing.
IPOB had better re-strategize and get their acts right. They're losing credibility with their criminal belligerence
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Odidigboigbo(m): 10:35pm On Jan 04, 2022
Denoh68:
YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN,THE SOUTHERNERS I KNOW WILL NOT CONSIDER PARTY,NA THE PERSON THEY WANT.
I'm a SS and I'm talking based of facts. SS and PDP are bread and butter, they are inseparable
Re: 2023: Jonathan’s Factor Alters Calculations In PDP by Freebills12: 10:44pm On Jan 04, 2022
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Benchilwell:
in term of development wat did Jonathan did in southeast, and again u are a mumu for saying uniting of SE and SS when u don't know that is d north that is bushing him so that after 4 yrs, power will come to them back to rule another 8 yrs

See you Mr wisdom, where was this wisdom in 2015... You forgot it, only to find it 2022. All you think that Buhari has done for the south East were done by Jonathan... Buhari only use media to advertise for yet to be seen work in South East. 2nd Niger Bridge or what, mention that project? If Jonathan is coming out for presidency just know that it is pay back time for the Yorubas and some foolish Eastern politicians like Amaechi... You stab him in the back in 2015 ... He wants to pay you back in 2023. The annoying part of it is that he is using your platform(APC) for this task.

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