MT:


Till the Monsters of Governors we have in Nigeria let go of the 3rd tier of Government. It is a big shame to the Governors really. Killing another legal tier of Government. Sadly, it is the presidency that people talk about leaving out the selfish Governors, who are directly in charge of Monthly state allocation given to each state, and the puppet state house of assemblies.

Before you criticise the Presidency, have you asked your State Governors how they spend the Monthly State Allocation given to your states. Is your State House Assemblies performing the roles of Checks and Balances??

backbencher:
I don't agree with Bubu MOST OF THE TIME, but the partiuclar issue of state police has 3 problems for me

1. Funding. Most states don't earn enough money to fund normal stuff, talkless state police

2. And let's be honest, governors will use the state police to deal with their opponents.

3. And let's not talk about what would happen in cases of tribal and religious crisis.


The USA that had state police, during the civil rights era of the 1960s, there were times where the federal government had to intervene because the state police was heavily heavily racist ( in some instances indistinguishable from groups like the KKK)

Modified

1. Expanding further on point 1, our tax to gdp ratio is low. Less than 30% of Nigerians don't pay income tax to state and federal government. So, where are we going to find the money for state police? Is it from oil whose price jumps up and down? No, loans. Just loans.

2.We had regional police in 1966. You people know what happened that year.

ivolt:

Buhari has done nothing meaningful actually.
Since the constitution recognizes LG, then the problem is easy.

Set up separate allocation accounts for LG.
Make a law abolishing caretaker chairman and transfer of LG allocation to the state.
Set up an anti-corruption agency to monitor LG fund usage within the LG.

With this, the LG will be as free as the state governor.

Abujason:


In sane countries, that won’t be the call of this dictator to make. The National Assembly is the arm of govt responsible for making laws, not the executive.

But then again, do we have a National Assembly (not this rubberstamp ooo)?

backbencher:


Well, I didn't agree with GEJ In everything, except when he provided extra funding for Nollywood, and when he also did things like strengthen AMCON and the railways, and privatized NEPA finally.

A broken clock, whatever the vintage, is right sometimes.

Bhubu is still a bad leader for me, economy and security wise.

backbencher:
I don't agree with Bubu MOST OF THE TIME, but the partiuclar issue of state police has 3 problems for me

1. Funding. Most states don't earn enough money to fund normal stuff, talkless state police

2. And let's be honest, governors will use the state police to deal with their opponents.

3. And let's not talk about what would happen in cases of tribal and religious crisis.


The USA that had state police, during the civil rights era of the 1960s, there were times where the federal government had to intervene because the state police was heavily heavily racist ( in some instances indistinguishable from groups like the KKK)

Modified

1. Expanding further on point 1, our tax to gdp ratio is low. About 70% of Nigerians don't pay income tax to state and federal government. So, where are we going to find the money for state police? Is it from oil whose price jumps up and down? No, loans. Just loans.

2.We had regional police in 1966. You people know what happened that year.

backbencher:


Well, even in the USA, that nice arrangement is also subject to abuse well well (not just during the civil rights era, politicians can abuse the thing , and so forth)

plus, just as you argue that weakness of state police should not prevent us from having state police, weakness of national police cannot prevent us from having one.

I prefer national police, even though I would want us to have a state police because Nigerians won't pay the tax for the police to function well, and also because , based on our experience in the mid 1960's, where regional police(and the already de-facto regionalised army) stood and did nothing while pogroms happened, and because Nigerians aren't pro-human rights whatsoever.

Damidave1124:
I'm tempted to bash Buhari, but haven gone through the write up, I must say he raised some salient points.

The governors, if given the opportunity will abuse it, they'll use it to which hunt their opponents till the subdue them.

Again, the north is scared of state police, because they'll lose their grip on Nigeria at large. Each state controlling the police will not favour the born to rule people

CSTRR:

So all the chronic insecurity everywhere has not taught you guys that the current federal controlled policing will not solve anything?

Tpharell:

Thank you for this. Mr president highlighted the issues the LG have with governors even as he has clearly failed to do the needful to curb the governors excesses

backbencher:


1.Most African countries have bad power supply like Nigeria does. What they do is supply their urban areas at the expense of their rural areas, unlike Nigeria that tries to give power to everyone(see the map below...access to power)

Plus Nigerians are not ready to pay for 24 hour power the same way we pay for 24 hour access to GSM service. And I'll leave it at that.

2.As for police force, Nigerians aren't democratically active enough to make it work (AS Pointed elsewhere) and then when only 30% of the taxable adults pay income tax, and oil prices are going down, and will go down in the near future, funding is going to be an issue.

3.And Nigeria is an autocratic and tribal society. State police in such a society would be a disaster. (That's why most African countries don't have state police either.).

backbencher:


Tribalisim, religionist issues, autocratic state governors.

Plus, it isn't just Nigeria, all African countries don't have state police, as do some European, and other countries.



Have you elected a decent governor yourself, since it is your cross to bear?



If you guys are willing to put tribal, religious and corruption issues away, plus pay the taxes for the thing (because oil money cannot even cover daily expense self, even if we 'reduce government spending, and corruption').



The money we spend on the police is one tenth of what the NYPD spends to police the city of New York and its environs.(which is why our police look like bedraggled and poor church mice, and why ENDSARS among their demands asked for better funding for the police)

SPLIT IT among the states, and it won't be enough.

Thus, taxes...which most Nigerians don't like.

Sebastine1994:
I hate buhari but hiß talk make sense 100%>

When you dash governor's power without accountability, they will do and undo. State police works in America because the citizens are politically active.

State police is not the answer to our problem, but citizens speaking with one voice and we would get whatever we want in life. Trust me.

If all boys decide to speak with one voice we would end government manipulation.

DubaiLandLord:
I doubt GMB can do what you're suggesting.

LG areas getting there funds will truly bring development to the grassroot if they are been monitored well.

And I think INEC should be in charge of LG elections, states electoral commission should stop been in charge

faste:
Even if all Nigerians pay tax including unborn babies,it would still not be enough to provide decent infrastructure.Develope and expand your economy and watch revenue roll in...where do u think China generates her wealth from??

vanbonattel:
So, killings and Ethnic cleansing under a lopsided police and army is the best?

Under the present circumstances, 95% of the police commissioners are fulani people. The IGP is a fulani man. Over 60% of the DPO and DCO are all fulani. And the fulani is just less than 4% of Nigeria population.

When the northerners start their killing spree in the south, they always have all the police and army protection they need because their brothers will protect and urge them on. This leads to immediate casualties and arrest of anyone that is not a northerner.

There can never be enforcement of anti grazing laws in the south because the police command structure is controlled by the same fulani that owns the cows.

There is much crime in the south because Adamus and Abduls that doesn't know anything about the terrain are in control of police formations and criminals will be running amok knowing that the Adamus knows motjing about the terrain they operate. They are just bribe collecting robots intent on checkpoint profits.

State police will help the locals who are the real stakeholders to police their domain in the way they want, nobody can do anyhow because we know his address. Police brutality will be reduced to the minimum because there will not be any Northern policeman who will shoot innocent people and get an automatic transfer back to Jigawa state where he continues him crimes.

ivolt:

He can do it but the will to do is a different matter.
Since the national assembly would not reject any reasonable bill he sponsors,
LG autonomy will be a done deal if he shows serious interest.

Sebastine1994:
I hate buhari but hiß talk make sense 100%>

When you dash governor's power without accountability, they will do and undo. State police works in America because the citizens are politically active.

State police is not the answer to our problem, but citizens speaking with one voice and we would get whatever we want in life. Trust me.

If all boys decide to speak with one voice we would end government manipulation.

vanbonattel:
So, killings and Ethnic cleansing under a lopsided police and army is the best?

Under the present circumstances, 95% of the police commissioners are fulani people. The IGP is a fulani man. Over 60% of the DPO and DCO are all fulani.

backbencher:
I don't agree with Bubu MOST OF THE TIME, but the partiuclar issue of state police has 3 problems for me

1. Funding. Most states don't earn enough money to fund normal stuff, talkless state police

2. And let's be honest, governors will use the state police to deal with their opponents.

3. And let's not talk about what would happen in cases of tribal and religious crisis.


The USA that had state police, during the civil rights era of the 1960s, there were times where the federal government had to intervene because the state police was heavily heavily racist ( in some instances indistinguishable from groups like the KKK)

Modified

1. Expanding further on point 1, our tax to gdp ratio is low. About 70% of Nigerians don't pay income tax to state and federal government. So, where are we going to find the money for state police? Is it from oil whose price jumps up and down? No, loans. Just loans.

2.We had regional police in 1966. You people know what happened that year.

Nosayer:
They know what they're doing.

It shouldn't surprise anyone again the direction of leadership in Nigeria. [b]Feudalism is what [/b]we're actually practice and the Lagos incidence, the arrest of Igboho etc which undermined the authority of state governors are classical examples.

What pains me is that when the duo of Obasanjo and Jonathan were there, they enjoy the monopoly that comes with the federal police so even if they could do something, they weren't serious about it. Apart from the duo, has any southerner really ruled Nigeria before?

Should we still be asking who the lords, enemies, and destroyers of Nigeria are?

Nosayer:
They know what they're doing.

It shouldn't surprise anyone again the direction of leadership in Nigeria. [b]Feudalism is what we're actually practice [/b]and the Lagos incidence, the arrest of Igboho etc which undermined the authority of state governors are classical examples.

What pains me is that when the duo of Obasanjo and Jonathan were there, they enjoy the monopoly that comes with the federal police so even if they could do something, they weren't serious about it. Apart from the duo, has any southerner really ruled Nigeria before?

Should we still be asking who the lords, enemies, and destroyers of Nigeria are?

Amah70:


Your argument is based on SHARING FEDERAL ALLOCATION money generated from one side of the country to all.


Modern Regional, State, County, Local government area Police formations, are managed by the citizens, via elected POLICE CHIEFS.

Every area's police take care of the area's peculiar problems.

heniford2:
In USA each state has its own state police then we have federal police who supervisor or is above the state, the local government issues is the state government should state is own budget and the local government should also do same,then funds are been transferred to local government for proper use, buhari is a lazy man a big one and has nothing upstairs

faste:
Even if all Nigerians pay tax including unborn babies,it would still not be enough to provide decent infrastructure.Develope and expand your economy and watch revenue roll in...where do u think China generates her wealth from??

faste:
Lame excuse, no country relies on income tax for her developmental need,industrialization and economic development brings prosperity.Ask china